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As a result of having a different perspective than Thomas Hobbes and the state of nature, John Locke also views the need for enacting a social contract differently. Locke did not see humans as warring in a state of nature as Hobbes had. Instead, Locke's state of nature could be explained as a perfect place where people had the freedom to choose their own paths in life so long as it did not infringe upon others.
Locke viewed people as being kind toward one another as a result of the Law of Nature, which was a result of virtues from God. Under the Law of Nature, people were equal and would be treated as such because of their morals stemming from their belief in God. By the same token, Locke acknowledged that having liberty in the state of nature was not synonymous with a "license" to do what we pleased, as, "no one ought to harm another in his life, health, liberty, or possessions…"(Locke, section 6). Only when a man has done something wrong can another man have power over him in the state of nature and this power cannot be used excessively, and only using calm reason and conscience (Locke, section 8)
Locke also understood the need for private property for men. Private property was the combining of a person using his (her) own labor along with the natural resources in nature to produce something. When a person used their abilities to produce something, they should have the right to that final product. However, a person could not claim more than what should be considered their own "fair share." In other words, owning excessive private property would now breach the Law of Nature. Because of the desire for private property and the want to maintain it, men would give up the freedom of the state of nature, relying upon a government for protection.
To me, Locke's state of nature is more in line with my own thinking. People are not naturally evil and warring, but instead more virtuous, whether stemming from beliefs in God, their own upbringing, or just naturally moral. As a result, the only need for people to enter into a social contract is to settle disputes and not for self preservation as Hobbes suggested.
Although I accept (interpret?) the notions of a state of nature from both Locke and Hobbes as theoretical, Locke's description seems closer to what I understand as reality. His description of the importance of property is not only unique from Hobbes', but also makes sense. People "like their things" and do not want them taken away. This seems very natural in society today. Locke's views were instrumental not only in our "re-establishment" of the state of nature when the American colonists declared their independence, but was also instrumental in the writing of the Bill of Rights.
POST TWO
Locke view of the state of nature is that mankind is "a state of perfect and complete liberty to conduct one's life as one best sees fit, free from the interference of others (iep.utm.edu)." In other words people ar.
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POST ONE
As a result of having a different perspective than Thomas
Hobbes and the state of nature, John Locke also views the need
for enacting a social contract differently. Locke did not see
humans as warring in a state of nature as Hobbes had. Instead,
Locke's state of nature could be explained as a perfect place
where people had the freedom to choose their own paths in life
so long as it did not infringe upon others.
Locke viewed people as being kind toward one another as a
result of the Law of Nature, which was a result of virtues from
God. Under the Law of Nature, people were equal and would be
treated as such because of their morals stemming from their
belief in God. By the same token, Locke acknowledged that
having liberty in the state of nature was not synonymous with a
"license" to do what we pleased, as, "no one ought to harm
another in his life, health, liberty, or possessions…"(Locke,
section 6). Only when a man has done something wrong can
another man have power over him in the state of nature and this
power cannot be used excessively, and only using calm reason
and conscience (Locke, section 8)
Locke also understood the need for private property for men.
Private property was the combining of a person using his (her)
own labor along with the natural resources in nature to produce
something. When a person used their abilities to produce
something, they should have the right to that final product.
However, a person could not claim more than what should be
considered their own "fair share." In other words, owning
excessive private property would now breach the Law of Nature.
Because of the desire for private property and the want to
maintain it, men would give up the freedom of the state of
nature, relying upon a government for protection.
To me, Locke's state of nature is more in line with my own
thinking. People are not naturally evil and warring, but instead
2. more virtuous, whether stemming from beliefs in God, their own
upbringing, or just naturally moral. As a result, the only need
for people to enter into a social contract is to settle disputes and
not for self preservation as Hobbes suggested.
Although I accept (interpret?) the notions of a state of nature
from both Locke and Hobbes as theoretical, Locke's description
seems closer to what I understand as reality. His description of
the importance of property is not only unique from Hobbes', but
also makes sense. People "like their things" and do not want
them taken away. This seems very natural in society today.
Locke's views were instrumental not only in our "re-
establishment" of the state of nature when the American
colonists declared their independence, but was also instrumental
in the writing of the Bill of Rights.
POST TWO
Locke view of the state of nature is that mankind is "a state of
perfect and complete liberty to conduct one's life as one best
sees fit, free from the interference of others (iep.utm.edu)." In
other words people are born free to do as they please, as long as
they follow moral laws & conduct themselves in manner not
causing harm to others. Locke saw man as being equal to one
another, having the right to defend themselves from their
aggressor.
The reason Locke saw property as a natural right is because, a
person who works for a living builds & creates products from
the earth of their own doing is the rightful owner of the
particular land. Because they took advantage of all the
resources God had made available to them. But Locke also
emphasized that a person should not take more than they needed
“one is not allowed to take more from nature than one can use,
thereby leaving others without enough for themselves
((iep.utm.edu)." With property being a natural right Locke’s
view of the state of nature all but guarantees one freedom from
any sort of oppression, if man are able to defend themselves,
own their property, & live in peace surely can live as one see’s
3. fit.
Locke's & Hobbes differ greatly on their version of state of
nature, Locke believed that people should have the right to do
as they pleased with absolute liberty as long as they obey moral
standings. Being a Philosopher in a time of civil war in the 17th
centruy England were the Monarchy was eventually dispose,
gave Locke his very liberal ideas. As for Hobbes his version of
state of nature is, those in civil society should submit
themselves to political authority such as King or a one party
system in either case both have completed authority over
everyone & property. In my opinion I think Hobbes believe that
mankind cannot make wise decision, & thus leave it to an
absolute authority to make those decisions. These two Locke &
Hobbes are different as night & day mainly because of the times
of each one of their ideas came to be, the same is the case for
their version of a social contract same formula but very
different implementation.
POST THREE
Locke was a social contract theorist. “Locke believed that man
was meant for civil society and that the latter must impose
limitations on citizens if individual rights are to be protected.”
(APUS)Locke’s social contract comes in two stages: a social
and a political contract. The first stage is there to make sure a
civil society is formed and the second stage ensures that there is
a common political authority in order to protect their property.
A contract is needed in order for there to be some sort of
following in society of what not to do and what to do. In
Locke’s social contract he talks about Civil Society. “…He
reasons that men contract and put themselves into civil society
to avoid the inconveniences of the state of nature , which pose a
perpetually looming threat of a state of war, and ultimately to
protect property in person and land.” (APUS) The civil society
differs tremendously from Sovereignty, the only purpose that
the government has dealing with the civil society is that they
protect citizen’s property. Men in civil society give up their
4. natural freedom to gain protection of the laws. The Sovereignty
is much different, “For Locke the Sovereign is the law which is
fair and equally applied to all equally.” (APUS) In a popular
sovereignty the government has limited power and not all your
rights are turned over to the government. The Sovereign is ruled
by consent of the people and to be ruled by the majority.
Basically there is a leader that is put into that position and he
represents the “Majority.” With Locke’s view on it the people
form together and put together their view and go against the
ruler if need be. With popular sovereignty not all rights are
turned over to the government. “The relationship between
limited government and the citizen is a reciprocal one.” (APUS)
I think that this type of sovereignty is directed towards all
citizens that feel that their voice or opinion should be heard as
long as they abide by the laws of their state.
There are many differences between Locke and Hobbes. Locke
looks at things as looking out for the people. Hobbes thought
that there should be more of a monarch style ruling where what
the ruler says goes and all your rights are turned over to the
government. “Men cannot know good and evil, and in
consequence can only live in peace together by subjection to the
absolute power of a common master, and therefore there can be
no peace between kings.” (Jim.Com) Hobbes basically meant
that there had to be one master ruler and that the people of
society could not get along because they did not know how to
act. Locke focused on individual rights and that people should
be able to think for themselves. Locke believes that property is
the ultimate basis for the terms of his social contract. “While
political power enables the state to make laws that bind the
whole society in support pf the public good, the state must have
limited powers so that it does not threaten the very basic rights
of freedom it is supposed to protect.” (APUS)