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Copyright © 2017 Japan Network Information Center
Remote Participation to SIG
Chair/Co-Chair Elections
Izumi	Okutani
Japan	Network	Information	Center	(JPNIC)
Izumi[at]nic.ad.jp
Copyright © 2017 Japan Network Information Center
Recap of APNIC42
• Proposal	by	Masato	Yamanishi at	APNIC42	to	
Revise	SIG	Guidelines	document
1. Remote	participation	for	SIG	Chair/Co-Chair	elections
Ø No	consensus:	Multiple	directions	and	methods	expressed
2. Maintain	staggered	election	terms	of	Chair/Co-Chair	
term	after	resignation/removal
Ø Proposed	as	part	of	“Proposal	to	Revise	the	SIG	Guidelines	
Document”
1
This presentation aims to take one step back for
component # 1, and help the community discussions by:
Ø Confirming current practices
Ø Sharing situation in other RIRs
Ø Listing other factors for considerations
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Todayʼs Practice
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Participation
Opportunities
Onsite Participants Remote Participants
Listen to discussions Listen onsite Live streaming
Express comments on
Policy Proposals
At the venue (mic) Chat comments to be
read out by the
secretariat (or follow up
on ML after the meeting)
Express consensus
support/non-support for
Policy Proposals
Show of hands or
Confer
Confer
Participate in SIG
Chair/Co-Chair
Elections
Show of hands ?
Identity confirmed by
physical presence
How can identity
confirmed?
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Confer: CONsensus FEedback in
Realtime
• An	electronic	system	being	proposed	to	replace	
the	traditional	“show	of	hands”	
• It	seeks	to	make	it	easier	for	people	to	express	
opinions	for	proposals
• It	can	be	used	by	both	onsite	and	online	participants
• Information	required	to	register	for	Confer	are:	
• email	address,	password,	displayed	name	
• Identity	of	participants	are	not	made	public,	
which	is	different	from	show	of	hands	
• Pilot	launch	since	APNIC38
3
Can this be applied to SIG
Chair/Co-Chair election as well?
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Other RIR communities
4
RIR Community Practice
AFRINIC l No formal process to remotely participate
in Chair election
l May accommodate per request basis
ARIN l Registered voting contacts of ARIN
members can vote for ARIN AC election
LACNIC l Everyone votes online
l Those registered in Policy ML can vote
RIPE l Online participants can express opinions
l In case of no consensus, secret ballots by
onsite participants
Thanks to Policy Managers from each RIR
region who helped confirm the situation
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General Observations on RIRs
• Not	all	RIRs	formally	accommodates	online	
participation	of	SIG/WG	Chair/Co-Chair	elections
• In	case	of	full	online	participation	by	all	
participants,	additional	information	is	requested	
(not	only	any	email	address	and	nickname)
• If	lightweight	information	is	requested	from	
online	participants,	and	no	consensus	for	
Chair/Co-Chair	election,	decision	by	onsite	
participants	is	given	the	priority
5
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Questions for discussions
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Possible options
A) Continue	with	the	current	practice
• Selection	of	Chairs/Co-Chairs	for	onsite	participants	only
B) Start	a	test	deployment
• Accommodate	remote	participants	to	join	in	online,	to	
see	the	level	of	interests/see	how	it	works.	
• However,	the	formal	decision	will	be	based	on	
participation	by	onsite	participants.
C) Formally	accommodate	online	participants	for	
Chair/Co-Chair	elections
• How	much	verification	do	we	want	to	go	through	for	
online	participants?	
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What do we want to achieve?
A) Want	more	participants	to	listen	and	make	
comments	in	discussions
B) Want	more	participants	to	join	the	consensus	
process	in	policy	proposals
C) Want	more	participants	to	join	the	consensus	
process	in	selection	of	SIG	Chair/Co-Chair
D) Want	more	participants	to	deepen	their	
knowledge	on	policy	discussions	and	be	engaged,	
regardless	of	method	of	participation
E) None	of	the	above:	More	outreach	to	raise	
interests	in	engaging	with	policy	discussions	first
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Q&A
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Remote Participation to SIG Chair/Co-Chair Elections

  • 1. Copyright © 2017 Japan Network Information Center Remote Participation to SIG Chair/Co-Chair Elections Izumi Okutani Japan Network Information Center (JPNIC) Izumi[at]nic.ad.jp
  • 2. Copyright © 2017 Japan Network Information Center Recap of APNIC42 • Proposal by Masato Yamanishi at APNIC42 to Revise SIG Guidelines document 1. Remote participation for SIG Chair/Co-Chair elections Ø No consensus: Multiple directions and methods expressed 2. Maintain staggered election terms of Chair/Co-Chair term after resignation/removal Ø Proposed as part of “Proposal to Revise the SIG Guidelines Document” 1 This presentation aims to take one step back for component # 1, and help the community discussions by: Ø Confirming current practices Ø Sharing situation in other RIRs Ø Listing other factors for considerations
  • 3. Copyright © 2017 Japan Network Information Center Todayʼs Practice 2 Participation Opportunities Onsite Participants Remote Participants Listen to discussions Listen onsite Live streaming Express comments on Policy Proposals At the venue (mic) Chat comments to be read out by the secretariat (or follow up on ML after the meeting) Express consensus support/non-support for Policy Proposals Show of hands or Confer Confer Participate in SIG Chair/Co-Chair Elections Show of hands ? Identity confirmed by physical presence How can identity confirmed?
  • 4. Copyright © 2017 Japan Network Information Center Confer: CONsensus FEedback in Realtime • An electronic system being proposed to replace the traditional “show of hands” • It seeks to make it easier for people to express opinions for proposals • It can be used by both onsite and online participants • Information required to register for Confer are: • email address, password, displayed name • Identity of participants are not made public, which is different from show of hands • Pilot launch since APNIC38 3 Can this be applied to SIG Chair/Co-Chair election as well?
  • 5. Copyright © 2017 Japan Network Information Center Other RIR communities 4 RIR Community Practice AFRINIC l No formal process to remotely participate in Chair election l May accommodate per request basis ARIN l Registered voting contacts of ARIN members can vote for ARIN AC election LACNIC l Everyone votes online l Those registered in Policy ML can vote RIPE l Online participants can express opinions l In case of no consensus, secret ballots by onsite participants Thanks to Policy Managers from each RIR region who helped confirm the situation
  • 6. Copyright © 2017 Japan Network Information Center General Observations on RIRs • Not all RIRs formally accommodates online participation of SIG/WG Chair/Co-Chair elections • In case of full online participation by all participants, additional information is requested (not only any email address and nickname) • If lightweight information is requested from online participants, and no consensus for Chair/Co-Chair election, decision by onsite participants is given the priority 5
  • 7. Copyright © 2017 Japan Network Information Center Questions for discussions
  • 8. Copyright © 2017 Japan Network Information Center Possible options A) Continue with the current practice • Selection of Chairs/Co-Chairs for onsite participants only B) Start a test deployment • Accommodate remote participants to join in online, to see the level of interests/see how it works. • However, the formal decision will be based on participation by onsite participants. C) Formally accommodate online participants for Chair/Co-Chair elections • How much verification do we want to go through for online participants? 7
  • 9. Copyright © 2017 Japan Network Information Center What do we want to achieve? A) Want more participants to listen and make comments in discussions B) Want more participants to join the consensus process in policy proposals C) Want more participants to join the consensus process in selection of SIG Chair/Co-Chair D) Want more participants to deepen their knowledge on policy discussions and be engaged, regardless of method of participation E) None of the above: More outreach to raise interests in engaging with policy discussions first 8
  • 10. Copyright © 2017 Japan Network Information Center Q&A 9