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Topographies: places to find something
Thursday 14th May, 2015
Venue: LT3, 17 Woodland Road
What is a problem of TOPOGRAPHY in Indian context? (Different types)
CARTESIAN : Solstices, Equinoxes, irrelevant to matter (topography)
RELATIONAL : The landscape and the Sun, relevant to matter (topography)
SEMANTIC : The nature in totality, that can be read like a book or painting
The Landscape, The Sun, and all other things on the landscape provide
contextual meaning to the nature, Semantic topography simply means that all
things in a space are distinct not just as existents but also as types.
The Landscape as topography (natural)
The Structures on the landscape as topography, cave and rock-shelters
The Surface of the painted canvas as topography (synthetic, meta-topography)
The understanding of everything combined as topography (Hybrid)
Interpretation : Topography as matter, a tangible entity, a semantic reality as
symbols that carry meaning
After Vahia et. al., 2009
Material objects acquire new properties when aggregated into collections.
The only assumption we need in order to understand topography semantically
is that the topography is a closed system, where objects or materials that are
described individually are different from objects that are described collectively.
Topography is a symbol of the mind, and that meanings that exist in the mind
can exist in matter as symbols.
Topography is also a relational property of the interaction between the world
and the observer.
Topography is the ideas of wholes, conceptual relations, and intentional
relations, a combination of which might produce objects as information
Research Questions:
1. What is the true nature of topography, is it physical, quantifiable or
semantic?
2. How is it associated with other types of meanings?
3. How topography can be a relationship between the part and the whole?
Methodology
1. Detailed study of ancient monuments and sacred cities within their
cultural context, eg. Megalithic monuments, when related to sunrise
and sunset etc.
2. Rock art (paintings, engravings, Geoglyphs, Location and shape of
rock-shelters, Megalithic burials
3. Ethnography , oral compositions, , Mythology, written materials etc.
1. Rigorous literature review and Local consultation
2. Field work, Landscape system science and Geometry of the topography
3. Documentation, Cataloguing, comparison of the data
4. Mapping, Model building, scientific input
5. Interpretation and theoretical framework
6. Introducing the concept of meaning in topography and its approaches,
like topography as types, objects, materials in order to understand that
meanings are defined collectively.
Study Region
Landscape of Rock art at Bhilwara district in Rajasthan, Desert
topography, Photo by the author
Different topography types, savannah, forest, mixed forest, dense forest,
Photo by the author
Burzahama (5000-3,500 BP), Kashmir valley, India, Photo courtesy, IGNCA,
New Delhi, Apparently the engravings represent a hunting scene
Dataset, Literature review
and Comparison
Sky map showing the region of HB9 in 5,000 BP. to facilitate easy comparison with the
drawing, rough patterns drawn in the map. The large circle in the centre is the full
Moon in the month of August in roughly 5,000 BP, and the smaller damaged circle to its
left marks the position of HB9, after, Iqbal , et al., 2009, Journal of Astronomical History
and Heritage
Orion
Taurus
Cetus
Andromeda or Pegasus
1) 2 Suns - even sun and moon together will never be comparably bright.
2) We have looked for all supernova remnants in our catalogues that could
have been bright enough to be seen during day time close to the ecliptic
and we get only 1 result.
3) Independently, when we plot it in the sky it comes out close to Orion -
Taurus. And the figures drawn also look like Taurus/ Orion and are
reasonably to scale (after Vahia, M.N., pers comn)
Rock art from Liktse, Kashmir showing a super human controlling the
Sun and the Moon. © Indira Gandhi National Gallery of Art, New Delhi
Engraved Sun motif, ritualistic
topography Example of a site from
Manipur, Photo courtesy, IGNCA
The use of topography,
topography within topography
as meta-topography, Bedia
rock-shelter at Mirzapur
district, India, Dstretched,
Photo by the author
These rock-shelters never receive direct
sunlight throughout the year, although
they are open air sites, but the content
is hidden or the actual rock art is hidden
from direct sun rays and wind action,
Hidden aspects of meta-topography
A hidden landscape, Sacred landscape based on the
movement of the sun, sacred topography
Rock-shelters that receive direct
sunlight, surface topography is
different
Domestic decoration as both a
synthetic and hybrid topography
at a multiethnic village in
Bhilwara, Rajasthan,
Megalithic burial sites ate also
important archaeo-
astronomical markers that
record the Sun’s movement
across the sky, Site Loicha,
Bhilwara district, Rajasthan,
Photo by the author
Sacred topography of the
landscape
Barwadi Punkhri,
Courtesy, Mr. Bulu Imam
NAP, Jharkhand, Photo courtesy, Mr. Bulu
Imam, evidence of sacred topography
Megalithic monuments from Jharkhand, See
book, Antiquarian Remains of Jharkhand, by
Mr. Bulu Imam, 2014
Photo Courtesy: Mr. Subhasis
Das
ConclusionConclusion
1. The concept of topography has limitations, although it can be understood
and as a closed system.
2. Topography is distinct both in terms of existence and types, although it is
not quantities.
3. It is both a communicative medium and an external reality, are reconciled as
two phases of a communicative paradigm in encoding and decoding a
message.
4. Topography forms complex structures, these structures acquire semantic
properties and become symbols, the symbols can refer to other objects,
these references become conscious and lead to knowledge of the world.
5. Topographical meanings are constructed from distinctions and they require
opposites to exist at the same time.
The setting of two rock-shelters in the Bhilwara district of Rajasthan,
Photo by the author
Thank you very much for your kind attention
Dalela, Ashish (2014-11-16). Is the Apple Really Red?10 Essays on Science and
Religion, Shabda Press.
Dalela, Ashish (2014-11-16). Six Causes: The Vedic Theory of Creation, Shabda
Press.
Dalela, Ashish (2014-11-16). Quantum Meaning: A Semantic Interpretation of
Quantum Theory, Shabda Press.
Dalela, Ashish (2014-11-16). Sankhya and Science, Shabda Press.
Vahia, M.N.; Nisha Yadav and Srikumar Menon : Origin and Growth of Astronomy in
Indian Context

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The problem of topography and the approaches to its meaning

  • 1. Topographies: places to find something Thursday 14th May, 2015 Venue: LT3, 17 Woodland Road
  • 2. What is a problem of TOPOGRAPHY in Indian context? (Different types) CARTESIAN : Solstices, Equinoxes, irrelevant to matter (topography) RELATIONAL : The landscape and the Sun, relevant to matter (topography) SEMANTIC : The nature in totality, that can be read like a book or painting The Landscape, The Sun, and all other things on the landscape provide contextual meaning to the nature, Semantic topography simply means that all things in a space are distinct not just as existents but also as types. The Landscape as topography (natural) The Structures on the landscape as topography, cave and rock-shelters The Surface of the painted canvas as topography (synthetic, meta-topography) The understanding of everything combined as topography (Hybrid) Interpretation : Topography as matter, a tangible entity, a semantic reality as symbols that carry meaning After Vahia et. al., 2009
  • 3. Material objects acquire new properties when aggregated into collections. The only assumption we need in order to understand topography semantically is that the topography is a closed system, where objects or materials that are described individually are different from objects that are described collectively. Topography is a symbol of the mind, and that meanings that exist in the mind can exist in matter as symbols. Topography is also a relational property of the interaction between the world and the observer. Topography is the ideas of wholes, conceptual relations, and intentional relations, a combination of which might produce objects as information Research Questions: 1. What is the true nature of topography, is it physical, quantifiable or semantic? 2. How is it associated with other types of meanings? 3. How topography can be a relationship between the part and the whole?
  • 4. Methodology 1. Detailed study of ancient monuments and sacred cities within their cultural context, eg. Megalithic monuments, when related to sunrise and sunset etc. 2. Rock art (paintings, engravings, Geoglyphs, Location and shape of rock-shelters, Megalithic burials 3. Ethnography , oral compositions, , Mythology, written materials etc. 1. Rigorous literature review and Local consultation 2. Field work, Landscape system science and Geometry of the topography 3. Documentation, Cataloguing, comparison of the data 4. Mapping, Model building, scientific input 5. Interpretation and theoretical framework 6. Introducing the concept of meaning in topography and its approaches, like topography as types, objects, materials in order to understand that meanings are defined collectively.
  • 6.
  • 7. Landscape of Rock art at Bhilwara district in Rajasthan, Desert topography, Photo by the author
  • 8. Different topography types, savannah, forest, mixed forest, dense forest, Photo by the author
  • 9. Burzahama (5000-3,500 BP), Kashmir valley, India, Photo courtesy, IGNCA, New Delhi, Apparently the engravings represent a hunting scene Dataset, Literature review and Comparison
  • 10. Sky map showing the region of HB9 in 5,000 BP. to facilitate easy comparison with the drawing, rough patterns drawn in the map. The large circle in the centre is the full Moon in the month of August in roughly 5,000 BP, and the smaller damaged circle to its left marks the position of HB9, after, Iqbal , et al., 2009, Journal of Astronomical History and Heritage Orion Taurus Cetus Andromeda or Pegasus 1) 2 Suns - even sun and moon together will never be comparably bright. 2) We have looked for all supernova remnants in our catalogues that could have been bright enough to be seen during day time close to the ecliptic and we get only 1 result. 3) Independently, when we plot it in the sky it comes out close to Orion - Taurus. And the figures drawn also look like Taurus/ Orion and are reasonably to scale (after Vahia, M.N., pers comn)
  • 11. Rock art from Liktse, Kashmir showing a super human controlling the Sun and the Moon. © Indira Gandhi National Gallery of Art, New Delhi
  • 12. Engraved Sun motif, ritualistic topography Example of a site from Manipur, Photo courtesy, IGNCA The use of topography, topography within topography as meta-topography, Bedia rock-shelter at Mirzapur district, India, Dstretched, Photo by the author
  • 13. These rock-shelters never receive direct sunlight throughout the year, although they are open air sites, but the content is hidden or the actual rock art is hidden from direct sun rays and wind action, Hidden aspects of meta-topography
  • 14.
  • 15. A hidden landscape, Sacred landscape based on the movement of the sun, sacred topography
  • 16. Rock-shelters that receive direct sunlight, surface topography is different
  • 17. Domestic decoration as both a synthetic and hybrid topography at a multiethnic village in Bhilwara, Rajasthan,
  • 18. Megalithic burial sites ate also important archaeo- astronomical markers that record the Sun’s movement across the sky, Site Loicha, Bhilwara district, Rajasthan, Photo by the author Sacred topography of the landscape
  • 19. Barwadi Punkhri, Courtesy, Mr. Bulu Imam NAP, Jharkhand, Photo courtesy, Mr. Bulu Imam, evidence of sacred topography Megalithic monuments from Jharkhand, See book, Antiquarian Remains of Jharkhand, by Mr. Bulu Imam, 2014 Photo Courtesy: Mr. Subhasis Das
  • 20. ConclusionConclusion 1. The concept of topography has limitations, although it can be understood and as a closed system. 2. Topography is distinct both in terms of existence and types, although it is not quantities. 3. It is both a communicative medium and an external reality, are reconciled as two phases of a communicative paradigm in encoding and decoding a message. 4. Topography forms complex structures, these structures acquire semantic properties and become symbols, the symbols can refer to other objects, these references become conscious and lead to knowledge of the world. 5. Topographical meanings are constructed from distinctions and they require opposites to exist at the same time.
  • 21. The setting of two rock-shelters in the Bhilwara district of Rajasthan, Photo by the author Thank you very much for your kind attention Dalela, Ashish (2014-11-16). Is the Apple Really Red?10 Essays on Science and Religion, Shabda Press. Dalela, Ashish (2014-11-16). Six Causes: The Vedic Theory of Creation, Shabda Press. Dalela, Ashish (2014-11-16). Quantum Meaning: A Semantic Interpretation of Quantum Theory, Shabda Press. Dalela, Ashish (2014-11-16). Sankhya and Science, Shabda Press. Vahia, M.N.; Nisha Yadav and Srikumar Menon : Origin and Growth of Astronomy in Indian Context