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Some key global macro issues in a
European perspective:
secular stagnation, financial repression
and safe assets
Richard Portes
London Business School and CEPR
II Europe - Latin America Economic Forum
Paris, 20 May 2014
The problem
 Long-term low real interest rates
 So it’s hard for investors to get yields they had
previously achieved – 8% targets won’t come back
 Hence ‘search for yield’ and ‘safe assets’, some asset
price bubbles, fed also by monetary policy trying to
get rates down to stimulate the economy
 But maybe even the rates we observe aren’t low
enough, that is…
 …maybe the ‘equilibrium’ real interest rate has fallen
substantially – and then monetary policy, at least, is
inadequate to get more investment and growth 2
Road map
 Competing stories about low real interest rates
 Financial repression: what? why? how?
 Are government debt problems really leading the
authorities to financial repression? – unlikely, we think
 Undesirable effects of sustained low interest rates
 Are low rates a consequence of a safe asset shortage?
 The evidence says no
 So maybe we really have entered an era of ‘secular
stagnation’ – or maybe it’s something else
 It matters! – are loose monetary policies and low
rates likely to persist? 3
Competing stories of long-term low
real interest rates
 ‘Secular stagnation’ (Summers 8 November 2013)
- the equilibrium real interest rate has fallen to -3%, say,
and monetary policy can’t get us there with inflation at 1-
2% (the ‘target’ of Fed, BoE, ECB, BoJ)
- so ‘savings glut’ (Bernanke) – rather, underinvestment
and low growth, but also asset price bubbles, as central
banks ease, trying to reach ‘equilibrium’ real rate
- when they decide to reverse, asset prices will fall
sharply, because markets realise slow growth will continue
 Financial repression (Reinhart and Sbrancia)
 Low policy rates because financial crisis lingers
 Shortage of safe assets (Caballero et al.) 4
Financial repression: what and why?
 Governments and central banks – ‘non-market
forces’ – keep interest rates ‘artificially low’
 This taxes savers to pay for government debt
reduction
 And if real interest rates are less than growth
rates, the government can ‘grow out of debt’
5
How can government debt/GDP fall?
 Default – highly unlikely, except for eurozone
peripherals
 Surprise inflation – hard to engineer
 Growth rates rise – we can hope so!
 Primary fiscal surpluses – moving that way
 But if growth remains low, it’s hard to get
primary fiscal surpluses
 Are governments then tempted to impose
financial repression?
6
Financial repression: how?
 Direct ceilings on nominal interest rates, especially
for depositors
 Central bank buys government bonds, pushing
nominal rates down
 Inducing inflation  lower real interest rates
 Financial regulation pushes savers to hold more
government bonds
 Capital controls may keep savers from exiting and
thereby keep domestic yields down
7
But what is ‘artificially low’?
 In a slump, the nominal interest rate hits the zero
lower bound, and it’s still not an ‘equilibrium’ rate – it
is still too high to be consistent with full employment
 That has been the problem in the US, UK, Euro area,
and Japan
 The secular stagnation story says this may be the
‘new normal’
 So nothing ‘artificial’ about low interest rates, not a
sign of financial repression
8
No significant financial repression in
DM economies – in particular, Europe
 No ceilings on interest rates
 Low inflation, and inflation expectations are below CB
targets for ECB and Japan, at target for US and UK
 No capital controls
 Real interest rates not ‘historically low’ for US and UK
 Yes, new regulatory measures – the liquidity coverage ratio
and Basel III – push banks to hold more government bonds
 But the authorities now realise that this is mistaken
- can’t keep on pretending government bonds are risk-free
- mustn’t increase deadly nexus between banks and sovereigns
9
The historical record
 Reinhart and collaborators claim that much of the reduction
in government debt/GDP since 1950 in a large sample of
countries was due to financial repression – i.e. ‘artificially
low’ interest rates
 But Scott and collaborators claim precisely the opposite for
G7 countries 1960-2005
 And Goldman Sachs seems to side with Scott et al.
10
Primary balance is important throughout, (r – g) in early period, the latter
mainly because of high g
So don’t blame financial repression
for low interest rates
 It wasn’t the main factor in the postwar debt
reduction
 Nor is it likely to be the way advanced
countries deal with their debt problems going
forward
 Still, we do have low nominal and real rates –
and if prolonged, they may have undesirable
effects
12
Consequences of low interest rates
 Transfer from creditors to debtors – to the extent
that monetary policy affects real rates, it redistributes
 Households with variable-rate mortgages benefit,
those holding endowment policies and purchasers of
annuities suffer
 And low nominal rates pose problems for institutions
with fixed nominal obligations – indeed, their
solvency may be threatened by accounting rules that
assume the low nominal rates will go on forever
13
Potential dangers
 Asset price bubbles? No clear evidence.
 ‘Search for yield’? – yes!
 Is that a problem? Only if you want ‘risk-free’ assets
that pay substantial real yields
 But such assets haven’t really been available for most
of the post-1960 period – although some investors,
misled by ratings, thought some assets were ‘safe’
that turned out to be highly risky
 That leads to the second part of the story:
Is there or will there be soon a shortage of
reasonably safe assets?
14
Maybe – and if so, we should be
scared! (say the FT and others)
 FT Alphaville headline 5 December 2011: ‘The
decline of “safe” assets’, presenting ‘the most
important chart in the world’, titled ‘Shrinking
universe of “safe” assets in the primary reserve
currencies’
 It gets worse:
Financial Times headline 27 March 2013: ‘Global
pool of triple A status shrinks 60%’
15
 ‘The world has a shortage of financial assets’
(Caballero 2006) – and it will get worse
 ‘In the future, there will be rising demand for
safe assets, but fewer of them will be available…’
(IMF Global Financial Stability Report April 2012)
16
Preliminary question
 Where to draw the line? No asset is truly safe :
 not in default risk (CDS spread on US Treasuries 5-yr at
1.1.09 was 67 bps, long before August 2011 debt-limit scare)
 nor liquidity risk (3-month US Treasuries stopped trading for
30 minutes at peak of post-LTCM turmoil, on 5.10.98)
 nor inflation risk (US inflation went well over 10% in 1979-80)
 nor exchange-rate risk (the dollar depreciated 50% against
the DM from Feb 1985 to Oct 1987)
 There is a continuum that requires judgment or reference to
the markets - hence difficulties with the data
17
Safe asset shortage, search for yield,
and financial instability
 The claim: it is the shortage of safe assets that pushed real
interest rates down to ‘historically low’ levels pre-crisis,
hence investors needing yield went into excessively risky
assets – and it’s happening again!
 Further consequences: global imbalances and asset price
bubbles
 Shortage of safe assets led private sector to create ‘private
label’ safe assets that weren’t really safe but were certified
by the ratings agencies and easily marketed
 Bernanke (2013), Kocherlakota (2013), and the IMF in
GFSR 2012 share the concern that safe asset shortages will
lead to financial instability (volatility jumps, herding, cliff
effects…) 18
Evidence: Effects on interest rates?
 Real interest rates did fall from 1980s and early 1990s to
levels that seemed historically low in 00s – but they weren’t,
because real interest rates were much the same in 1960s
and lower in 1970s.
 Hard to claim a shortage of safe assets both pre- and post-
1971!
 So was it ‘financial repression’? Doubtful: that would block
cross-border transmission, but there was high co-movement
of advanced economy and emerging market spreads 1960-
1980.
19
Evidence
 Asset price bubbles – really? is there agreement
on identifying asset price bubbles before they
burst? Where are the bubbles now?
 Interest rates and spreads – in fact, long-term
US and UK government bond interest rates aren’t
‘historically low’, nor are spreads of corporate
bonds
 Volumes of ‘safe’ assets – how to identify supply
and demand? What is ‘safe’?
20
Gourinchas and Jeanne (2012)
Rates are ‘historically low’ from the early 2000s
21
But the picture changes in a longer historical perspective
22
23
Are spreads especially compressed? Not AAA
24
So where is the search for (high) yield – as in 1998?
25
‘The most important chart in the world…’
Credit Suisse 2012 Global Outlook
26
…unless it’s this one – with a very different message
H. Blommestein, Bloomberg Brief, 3 January 2013 27
Nor does Goldman Sachs buy ‘shrinkage’…
Global
Economics
Weekly
27 June 2012
…and they have a nice idea: define ‘safe assets’ by positive yield correlation
with risk appetite. Then US Treasuries, non-Euro area G10, German, Dutch,
Finnish, US agencies and AAA-rated covered bonds are still treated as ‘safe’.28
So it’s hard to find the ‘safe asset shortage’
 Hard indeed to define ‘safe’
 Role of ratings is dubious at best
 GFSR bravely says ‘asset safety should not be viewed
as being directly linked to credit rating’ but does it all
the same, like everyone else – yet downgrading of
US, UK, France had no effect on 10-year yields
 True, sovereign nominal yields are low
 That’s not because of QE: numbers aren’t big
enough, and no QE for Bunds – yet Bund yields are
well below those on 10-year US Treasuries and UK
gilts 29
So again, why are long rates so low?
 Either excess demand for safe assets
 or weak demand for funds from private sector
plus extended expectations of Zero Interest Rate
Policy
 The latter accords with both theory and the data
 The question remains whether the low policy
rates are cyclical (still not out of financial crisis)
or a response to ‘secular stagnation’
 The big issue: What will the central banks think,
and how will that affect their policies? 30

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Session 1 portes 2

  • 1. Some key global macro issues in a European perspective: secular stagnation, financial repression and safe assets Richard Portes London Business School and CEPR II Europe - Latin America Economic Forum Paris, 20 May 2014
  • 2. The problem  Long-term low real interest rates  So it’s hard for investors to get yields they had previously achieved – 8% targets won’t come back  Hence ‘search for yield’ and ‘safe assets’, some asset price bubbles, fed also by monetary policy trying to get rates down to stimulate the economy  But maybe even the rates we observe aren’t low enough, that is…  …maybe the ‘equilibrium’ real interest rate has fallen substantially – and then monetary policy, at least, is inadequate to get more investment and growth 2
  • 3. Road map  Competing stories about low real interest rates  Financial repression: what? why? how?  Are government debt problems really leading the authorities to financial repression? – unlikely, we think  Undesirable effects of sustained low interest rates  Are low rates a consequence of a safe asset shortage?  The evidence says no  So maybe we really have entered an era of ‘secular stagnation’ – or maybe it’s something else  It matters! – are loose monetary policies and low rates likely to persist? 3
  • 4. Competing stories of long-term low real interest rates  ‘Secular stagnation’ (Summers 8 November 2013) - the equilibrium real interest rate has fallen to -3%, say, and monetary policy can’t get us there with inflation at 1- 2% (the ‘target’ of Fed, BoE, ECB, BoJ) - so ‘savings glut’ (Bernanke) – rather, underinvestment and low growth, but also asset price bubbles, as central banks ease, trying to reach ‘equilibrium’ real rate - when they decide to reverse, asset prices will fall sharply, because markets realise slow growth will continue  Financial repression (Reinhart and Sbrancia)  Low policy rates because financial crisis lingers  Shortage of safe assets (Caballero et al.) 4
  • 5. Financial repression: what and why?  Governments and central banks – ‘non-market forces’ – keep interest rates ‘artificially low’  This taxes savers to pay for government debt reduction  And if real interest rates are less than growth rates, the government can ‘grow out of debt’ 5
  • 6. How can government debt/GDP fall?  Default – highly unlikely, except for eurozone peripherals  Surprise inflation – hard to engineer  Growth rates rise – we can hope so!  Primary fiscal surpluses – moving that way  But if growth remains low, it’s hard to get primary fiscal surpluses  Are governments then tempted to impose financial repression? 6
  • 7. Financial repression: how?  Direct ceilings on nominal interest rates, especially for depositors  Central bank buys government bonds, pushing nominal rates down  Inducing inflation  lower real interest rates  Financial regulation pushes savers to hold more government bonds  Capital controls may keep savers from exiting and thereby keep domestic yields down 7
  • 8. But what is ‘artificially low’?  In a slump, the nominal interest rate hits the zero lower bound, and it’s still not an ‘equilibrium’ rate – it is still too high to be consistent with full employment  That has been the problem in the US, UK, Euro area, and Japan  The secular stagnation story says this may be the ‘new normal’  So nothing ‘artificial’ about low interest rates, not a sign of financial repression 8
  • 9. No significant financial repression in DM economies – in particular, Europe  No ceilings on interest rates  Low inflation, and inflation expectations are below CB targets for ECB and Japan, at target for US and UK  No capital controls  Real interest rates not ‘historically low’ for US and UK  Yes, new regulatory measures – the liquidity coverage ratio and Basel III – push banks to hold more government bonds  But the authorities now realise that this is mistaken - can’t keep on pretending government bonds are risk-free - mustn’t increase deadly nexus between banks and sovereigns 9
  • 10. The historical record  Reinhart and collaborators claim that much of the reduction in government debt/GDP since 1950 in a large sample of countries was due to financial repression – i.e. ‘artificially low’ interest rates  But Scott and collaborators claim precisely the opposite for G7 countries 1960-2005  And Goldman Sachs seems to side with Scott et al. 10
  • 11. Primary balance is important throughout, (r – g) in early period, the latter mainly because of high g
  • 12. So don’t blame financial repression for low interest rates  It wasn’t the main factor in the postwar debt reduction  Nor is it likely to be the way advanced countries deal with their debt problems going forward  Still, we do have low nominal and real rates – and if prolonged, they may have undesirable effects 12
  • 13. Consequences of low interest rates  Transfer from creditors to debtors – to the extent that monetary policy affects real rates, it redistributes  Households with variable-rate mortgages benefit, those holding endowment policies and purchasers of annuities suffer  And low nominal rates pose problems for institutions with fixed nominal obligations – indeed, their solvency may be threatened by accounting rules that assume the low nominal rates will go on forever 13
  • 14. Potential dangers  Asset price bubbles? No clear evidence.  ‘Search for yield’? – yes!  Is that a problem? Only if you want ‘risk-free’ assets that pay substantial real yields  But such assets haven’t really been available for most of the post-1960 period – although some investors, misled by ratings, thought some assets were ‘safe’ that turned out to be highly risky  That leads to the second part of the story: Is there or will there be soon a shortage of reasonably safe assets? 14
  • 15. Maybe – and if so, we should be scared! (say the FT and others)  FT Alphaville headline 5 December 2011: ‘The decline of “safe” assets’, presenting ‘the most important chart in the world’, titled ‘Shrinking universe of “safe” assets in the primary reserve currencies’  It gets worse: Financial Times headline 27 March 2013: ‘Global pool of triple A status shrinks 60%’ 15
  • 16.  ‘The world has a shortage of financial assets’ (Caballero 2006) – and it will get worse  ‘In the future, there will be rising demand for safe assets, but fewer of them will be available…’ (IMF Global Financial Stability Report April 2012) 16
  • 17. Preliminary question  Where to draw the line? No asset is truly safe :  not in default risk (CDS spread on US Treasuries 5-yr at 1.1.09 was 67 bps, long before August 2011 debt-limit scare)  nor liquidity risk (3-month US Treasuries stopped trading for 30 minutes at peak of post-LTCM turmoil, on 5.10.98)  nor inflation risk (US inflation went well over 10% in 1979-80)  nor exchange-rate risk (the dollar depreciated 50% against the DM from Feb 1985 to Oct 1987)  There is a continuum that requires judgment or reference to the markets - hence difficulties with the data 17
  • 18. Safe asset shortage, search for yield, and financial instability  The claim: it is the shortage of safe assets that pushed real interest rates down to ‘historically low’ levels pre-crisis, hence investors needing yield went into excessively risky assets – and it’s happening again!  Further consequences: global imbalances and asset price bubbles  Shortage of safe assets led private sector to create ‘private label’ safe assets that weren’t really safe but were certified by the ratings agencies and easily marketed  Bernanke (2013), Kocherlakota (2013), and the IMF in GFSR 2012 share the concern that safe asset shortages will lead to financial instability (volatility jumps, herding, cliff effects…) 18
  • 19. Evidence: Effects on interest rates?  Real interest rates did fall from 1980s and early 1990s to levels that seemed historically low in 00s – but they weren’t, because real interest rates were much the same in 1960s and lower in 1970s.  Hard to claim a shortage of safe assets both pre- and post- 1971!  So was it ‘financial repression’? Doubtful: that would block cross-border transmission, but there was high co-movement of advanced economy and emerging market spreads 1960- 1980. 19
  • 20. Evidence  Asset price bubbles – really? is there agreement on identifying asset price bubbles before they burst? Where are the bubbles now?  Interest rates and spreads – in fact, long-term US and UK government bond interest rates aren’t ‘historically low’, nor are spreads of corporate bonds  Volumes of ‘safe’ assets – how to identify supply and demand? What is ‘safe’? 20
  • 21. Gourinchas and Jeanne (2012) Rates are ‘historically low’ from the early 2000s 21
  • 22. But the picture changes in a longer historical perspective 22
  • 23. 23
  • 24. Are spreads especially compressed? Not AAA 24
  • 25. So where is the search for (high) yield – as in 1998? 25
  • 26. ‘The most important chart in the world…’ Credit Suisse 2012 Global Outlook 26
  • 27. …unless it’s this one – with a very different message H. Blommestein, Bloomberg Brief, 3 January 2013 27
  • 28. Nor does Goldman Sachs buy ‘shrinkage’… Global Economics Weekly 27 June 2012 …and they have a nice idea: define ‘safe assets’ by positive yield correlation with risk appetite. Then US Treasuries, non-Euro area G10, German, Dutch, Finnish, US agencies and AAA-rated covered bonds are still treated as ‘safe’.28
  • 29. So it’s hard to find the ‘safe asset shortage’  Hard indeed to define ‘safe’  Role of ratings is dubious at best  GFSR bravely says ‘asset safety should not be viewed as being directly linked to credit rating’ but does it all the same, like everyone else – yet downgrading of US, UK, France had no effect on 10-year yields  True, sovereign nominal yields are low  That’s not because of QE: numbers aren’t big enough, and no QE for Bunds – yet Bund yields are well below those on 10-year US Treasuries and UK gilts 29
  • 30. So again, why are long rates so low?  Either excess demand for safe assets  or weak demand for funds from private sector plus extended expectations of Zero Interest Rate Policy  The latter accords with both theory and the data  The question remains whether the low policy rates are cyclical (still not out of financial crisis) or a response to ‘secular stagnation’  The big issue: What will the central banks think, and how will that affect their policies? 30