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Engineering employment pathways in remote communities and the (false) hope of collaborative service provision 
John Guenther, Eva McRae-Williams and Claire Kilgariff 
Presented to the NARU seminar series 
Darwin, 19 November 2014
Cooperative Research Centre for Remote Economic Participation 
Goals: 
1. 
To develop new ways to build resilience and strengthen regional communities and economies across remote Australia. 
2. 
To build new enterprises and strengthen existing industries that, provide jobs, livelihoods and incomes in remote areas. 
3. 
To improve the education and training pathways in remote areas so that people have better opportunities to participate in the range of economies that exist. 
http://crc-rep.com/research
“A place of national significance in Indigenous 
education 
—strengtheningidentity,achievingsuccessandtransforminglives.” 
Batchelor Institute is a dual sector tertiary education 
provider that services the education, training and research 
needs of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples. 
Vocation Education and Training 
Research and Higher Education 
Undergraduate 
ACIKE 
3
Background: key contextual issues 
• 
Relatively low participation in employment among Aboriginal people in the NT 
• 
Other social concerns in communities: safety, child protection, school attendance, housing, health 
• 
Service provision to remote communities 
• 
Limited success of past employment transition programs 
4
Qualifications and employment in two remote* contexts 
2011 Census data 
Alice Springs 
Thamarrurr 
Place of Work 
Qualification levels based on 
Non-Indigenous and not stated 
Aboriginal and/or Torres Strait Islanders 
Non-Indigenous and not stated 
Aboriginal and/or Torres Strait Islanders 
Diploma and above 
3948 
137 
90 
12 
Certificate III and IV 
2242 
188 
60 
27 
Up to Certificate II 
4202 
552 
64 
223 
Total 
10392 
877 
214 
262 
Per cent with up to Cert II* 
40% 
63% 
30% 
85% 
Place of Usual Residence 
Total population (POUR) 
20497 
4690 
186 
2117 
Unemployed (based on POUR) 
264 
154 
3 
123 
NILF (based on POUR) 
2434 
1462 
15 
874 
Caring for children 
450 
631 
Not caring for children 
900 
196 
Populationagedunder20 
2012 
1062 
* As defined by ABS 5
Numerous studies over the last decade or more on training and employment among remote students 
• 
A selection 
• 
ANTARAC 1998: Djamaand VET 
• 
NTCOSS 2004: Creating effective pathways 
• 
Young et al 2007: Growing the desert 
• 
Guenther et al. 2008a: NCVER Welfare to Work 
• 
Guenther et al. 2011: TrainingPlus(CAT) 
• 
Guenther et al. 2008b: NCVER Partnerships 
• 
Guenther et al. 2010: Nungalinya 
• 
Wallace and Appo2011: E-learning 
• 
Kral and Schwab 2012: Youth literacy and media 
• 
These studies point to a need for 
• 
Integrated, client focused, collaborative service delivery 
• 
Connection of training to community needs 
• 
Capacity building 
6
Rationale for the current approach 
• 
Foundation Skills 
• 
Skills for Education and Employment 
• 
Remote Jobs and Communities Program http://www.nssc.natese.gov.au/21c/foundation_skills 
7
The case for collaboration 
• 
Better access to external resources 
• 
More efficient use of shared resources 
• 
Better coordination of services, reduced duplication 
• 
Reduced risk for stakeholders 
• 
Shared knowledge 
• 
Creativity, improved problem solving 
• 
A more holistic approach for clients 
8
Two cases 
• 
Wadeye 
• 
Batchelor, TRAAC and TDC (RJCP) 
• 
Focus on foundation skills 
• 
Alice Springs 
• 
Batchelor, CAT, Tangentyere Jobs (RJCP) 
• 
Focus on construction 
9
What can we learn? 
• 
Flawed assumptions: What happens when the engineering fails? 
• 
Problem is not a lack of jobs 
• 
The Human Capital drivers are in themselves not adequate to entice people into (and stay on) the pathway 
• 
Pitfalls of collaboration 
• 
Organisational and relational challenges associated with working remotely 
• 
Finding common purpose 
• 
Time to build trusted relationships 
• 
But attrition remains the key challenge 
• 
Capacity and skills required to collaborate 
• 
How could remote community labour force outcomes be improved? 
• 
Strategies to achieve client buy in 
• 
Compliance driven vs community driven initiatives 
10
Conclusion 
• 
Rationales for engineered pathways and collaborative service delivery still hold; 
• 
But we can’t assume they will hold up in remote contexts to the same extent as in non-remote contexts 
• 
Buy in from program participants needs to be factored into the collaborative process; 
• 
Collaboration is not the solution for remote service delivery. 
• 
Even when collaboration is strong, it does not necessarily make a significant difference 
11
Contact 
John Guenther, john.guenther@flinders.edu.au 
0412 125 661 
Eva McRae-Williams, eva.mcrae-williams@batchelor.edu.au 
0400 759 153 
Claire Kilgarriff, Claire.kilgarriff@batchelor.edu.au 
0401 119 108 
Cooperative Research Centre for Remote Economic Participation 
http://www.crc-rep.com 
12

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Engineering employment pathways in remote communities and the (false) hope of collaborative service provision

  • 1. Engineering employment pathways in remote communities and the (false) hope of collaborative service provision John Guenther, Eva McRae-Williams and Claire Kilgariff Presented to the NARU seminar series Darwin, 19 November 2014
  • 2. Cooperative Research Centre for Remote Economic Participation Goals: 1. To develop new ways to build resilience and strengthen regional communities and economies across remote Australia. 2. To build new enterprises and strengthen existing industries that, provide jobs, livelihoods and incomes in remote areas. 3. To improve the education and training pathways in remote areas so that people have better opportunities to participate in the range of economies that exist. http://crc-rep.com/research
  • 3. “A place of national significance in Indigenous education —strengtheningidentity,achievingsuccessandtransforminglives.” Batchelor Institute is a dual sector tertiary education provider that services the education, training and research needs of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples. Vocation Education and Training Research and Higher Education Undergraduate ACIKE 3
  • 4. Background: key contextual issues • Relatively low participation in employment among Aboriginal people in the NT • Other social concerns in communities: safety, child protection, school attendance, housing, health • Service provision to remote communities • Limited success of past employment transition programs 4
  • 5. Qualifications and employment in two remote* contexts 2011 Census data Alice Springs Thamarrurr Place of Work Qualification levels based on Non-Indigenous and not stated Aboriginal and/or Torres Strait Islanders Non-Indigenous and not stated Aboriginal and/or Torres Strait Islanders Diploma and above 3948 137 90 12 Certificate III and IV 2242 188 60 27 Up to Certificate II 4202 552 64 223 Total 10392 877 214 262 Per cent with up to Cert II* 40% 63% 30% 85% Place of Usual Residence Total population (POUR) 20497 4690 186 2117 Unemployed (based on POUR) 264 154 3 123 NILF (based on POUR) 2434 1462 15 874 Caring for children 450 631 Not caring for children 900 196 Populationagedunder20 2012 1062 * As defined by ABS 5
  • 6. Numerous studies over the last decade or more on training and employment among remote students • A selection • ANTARAC 1998: Djamaand VET • NTCOSS 2004: Creating effective pathways • Young et al 2007: Growing the desert • Guenther et al. 2008a: NCVER Welfare to Work • Guenther et al. 2011: TrainingPlus(CAT) • Guenther et al. 2008b: NCVER Partnerships • Guenther et al. 2010: Nungalinya • Wallace and Appo2011: E-learning • Kral and Schwab 2012: Youth literacy and media • These studies point to a need for • Integrated, client focused, collaborative service delivery • Connection of training to community needs • Capacity building 6
  • 7. Rationale for the current approach • Foundation Skills • Skills for Education and Employment • Remote Jobs and Communities Program http://www.nssc.natese.gov.au/21c/foundation_skills 7
  • 8. The case for collaboration • Better access to external resources • More efficient use of shared resources • Better coordination of services, reduced duplication • Reduced risk for stakeholders • Shared knowledge • Creativity, improved problem solving • A more holistic approach for clients 8
  • 9. Two cases • Wadeye • Batchelor, TRAAC and TDC (RJCP) • Focus on foundation skills • Alice Springs • Batchelor, CAT, Tangentyere Jobs (RJCP) • Focus on construction 9
  • 10. What can we learn? • Flawed assumptions: What happens when the engineering fails? • Problem is not a lack of jobs • The Human Capital drivers are in themselves not adequate to entice people into (and stay on) the pathway • Pitfalls of collaboration • Organisational and relational challenges associated with working remotely • Finding common purpose • Time to build trusted relationships • But attrition remains the key challenge • Capacity and skills required to collaborate • How could remote community labour force outcomes be improved? • Strategies to achieve client buy in • Compliance driven vs community driven initiatives 10
  • 11. Conclusion • Rationales for engineered pathways and collaborative service delivery still hold; • But we can’t assume they will hold up in remote contexts to the same extent as in non-remote contexts • Buy in from program participants needs to be factored into the collaborative process; • Collaboration is not the solution for remote service delivery. • Even when collaboration is strong, it does not necessarily make a significant difference 11
  • 12. Contact John Guenther, john.guenther@flinders.edu.au 0412 125 661 Eva McRae-Williams, eva.mcrae-williams@batchelor.edu.au 0400 759 153 Claire Kilgarriff, Claire.kilgarriff@batchelor.edu.au 0401 119 108 Cooperative Research Centre for Remote Economic Participation http://www.crc-rep.com 12