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Thisis so exciting!!!!!
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Loud andclear Lois
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Twittermonitorreportingforduty!
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Good morningall :)
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Good morningeveryonewhereveryouare!
fromLaura TooleytoAll Panelists:
We can hearyou!!!
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Good morningfromProvidence,RI,USA
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Good morningeveryone.It'sJodi here fromafoggyOxfordshire.I'mTwittermonitortodayandwe'll
be tweetingusingthe hashtag#EdgeTalks
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Morningall,I'm in sunnyNottinghamtoday
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MorningTeam Edge:) morningworld...morningrebels
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MorningJon
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Morningeveryone fromasunnyBedworth
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Helloall,I'minCambridgeshire
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Hi. I'm KarenDay fromAuckland,NewZealand
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Morningfrom Plymouth!
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"wavesback"to missioncontrol
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Hello.Thisis Carmenfromthe East Coast of America.Thanksforjoining!
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Morning,so excitedabouttoday
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Good morningeveryonefromfoggyWarrington
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MorningSiobhan,KarenMichaelaandDavid
fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants:
Morningeveryone - I'mLaura Tooley@Laura521531139 from Birmingham, UK 👋�
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Morning!
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All of UK in fogthismorning?
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We're sunnyin Cambs
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It's sunnyhere!
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Good morningeveryone
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Fog lifting
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Seemssymbolicfortoday!!!
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It's buringoff - goingtobe a beautiful day.
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Thank youinadvance for bringingusall together �👯👯�👫👫��👯��👫�🌓
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hi thisis eileenshevlinfromnorthernireland
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Hi,John fromaboutas farnorth inEnglandas its possible tobe.
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HellofromNZ
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hellofromNorway
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MorningComrades.Alisonhere,KensingtonLondon.
fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants:
I will be listeningtotodaywithpalliativeandendof life care inmind - alsocompassionate and
courageousleadershipandcoaching.New UKNational Frameworkof interest'Ambitionsfor
PalliativeandEndof Life Care: A national frameworkforlocal action2015-2020
www.endoflifecareambitions.org.uknow THAT'sa change challenge ✨
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i love beinginvolvedinthese talks,somuclearning
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Hellofromstaffordshire,England!
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Practicallyaneighbour,Zoe!Hi fromBrum!
fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants:
Loud andclear
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Good morningAll SoofromNorthernIrelandhere - canhear all loudandclear
fromCarmenMedinato All Participants:
don't holdthatCIA thingagainstme
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hellofromWestYorkshire - Yorkshire &HumberCommissioningSupport
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I cant hear anythingyeteither
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HellofromBostonMA
fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants:
Don't worryCarmenI am an ex RussianexpertwithdiceyKGBconections.Theyneverletme forget
it either
fromJon Bryant toAll Participants:
got yeraudioon the phone,phew;)
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fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants:
We love tobe so Edgy we do the slidesbydroppingthemall onthe floorandpickingthemupat
random.Keepsuson ourtoes.
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Tryingto effectchange froma non-leadershipposition
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Can't vote or see results...
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Laura theyare on a panel underchat
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Can't vote or see results.Connectingfromsmartphone webex...
fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants:
I am alreadyfeelingthe NHSbiaswhichwe needtobe wary of if we genuinelyare talkingabout
change across the systemwhichincludessocial care.
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I can't vote as on iPad - it's mytechnology - soplease don'twaitfor me!!!
fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants:
Still can'tsee,buton an iPad!Uphill though!!
fromJon Bryant toAll Participants:
no surpiseswithpoll 2results
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Speakers - are you able to see commentsonthe chat?
fromSiobhanWeavertoAll Participants:
mmmm....noneof the above!!
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Top three challenges:
Boss
Culture
Andthenmaybe conflictavoidance
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Siobhan - you rebel!
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Culture!
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witha cause???
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He he
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pennyyouneedtocall in withyourcomputer
fromJon Bryant toAll Participants:
approval processdoesnotencourage outthe lateral ideas
fromSoo Hun to All Participants:
Dominic- understandthe challengesof technology:)
fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants:
I workwithat leastfourorganisationssoitis provingquite toughtofitmyself inthe box againwhich
isnothingnew.Soa challenge Ihave ishavingto adaptto varyingdegreesof readinessforchange.
fromSiobhanWeavertoAll Participants:
thinkthisisreallypositivethat1 is0%
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and 2 forthat matter
fromElizabethWoodto All Participants:
Gettingholdof data to supportmeasuringanychange istricky
fromPaul WoodleytoAll Attendees:
Good morningeveryone,if youcannothearyouwill needtoconnectyouraudiousingthe audiotab
at the topleftof the screen
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:)
fromJanetWildmanto All Participants:
Ideasand culture are reallyimportantbutthere are oftenoutof sync
fromJon Bryant toAll Participants:
goodto see we are not worriedabout"us"onlygoodoutcomesforothers
fromSiobhanWeavertoAll Participants:
agree JanetWildman
fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants:
Needtobelieveit'spossible - Paul Freire - "hopelessnessisbuthope thathas lostitsbearings"
fromCarmenMedinato All Participants:
love the Paul Freire quote
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Love that laura
fromMohbub Uddinto All Participants:
In mygeneal experience,most workplaceswelcome 'rebels'.It'sgoodfor the worker,the manager
and the employertohave someone intheirwhogoesbeyondtheirjobdescription.
fromJon Bryant toAll Participants:
change is natural state of universe funnyhow muchwe resistthis
fromJanetWildmanto All Participants:
Certaintyisthe opposite of fearbutthat's the businesswe are in
fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants:
I have had to modifymyapproach.Asa "patient"change agentcomingfromthe standpointof
"outsiderinside"I have hadto try to plantseedsoftenone conversationasa time ratherthandrop
insmetex toblastthe barriersaway.
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That was "semtex"there of course.Spellingisdodgytoday.
fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants:
It's a bit scary sometimes - evenforseniorandexperiencedfolk"leadersneedtoallow themselves
to enterthe 'dark nightof the soul'and face theirinnermostfears,doubtsanduncertainties"
RichardOlivier.
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thinkownershiphasalotto do withresistance,itsnotmyideaso no
fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants:
So mucheasierto relegate the issue tothe "technical"asthe messyanddifficult emotional stuffis
thenavoided.
fromJanetWildmanto All Participants:
Adaptive change isthe newsocial eraandcritical for radicals
fromDominicCushnanto All Participants:
I will agree withyouthere Alison
fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants:
Laura I love the "dark nightof the soul"comment.I reallysee thatinaction.May "borrow"that
expressionformypresentations!
fromJanetWildmanto All Participants:
sometimeswe mightwiththe technical butwe needtomove tothe adaptive quickly
fromCarmenMedinato All Participants:
I believewe willbe makingoutslidesavailable onslideshare
fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants:
Hi Paul and Dom.Am withthe teaminspirit.
fromJanetWildmanto All Participants:
Adaptive change isaboutparticipationandengagement
fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants:
As someone onthe receivingendof servicesIgotusedtobeing"done to"not "done with".Thisis
whatmy workis aboutchanging.
fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants:
Alisonpleasedo!Hisbookon adaptable leadershipwell wortharead - whoknew Shakespeare had
so muchto offer!
fromDominicCushnanto All Participants:
interestingwayof framingthatLois
fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants:
Veryoftenwe still lookatthe "team" as beingexclusivelythose withinourownformal
organisational structure.Thatismissingoutone legof the stool hence the effortismore likelytofall
over.
fromJon Bryant toAll Participants:
we come back to ownership,wherecaringaboutthigsare valued
fromJanetWildmanto All Participants:
immunitytochange isa reallyinteresting
fromKarenDay to All Participants:
nice phrase 'immunitytochange'- makesa lotof sense
fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants:
The OxfordStrategicLeadershipProgramme - biggestinfluence onmyabilitytoexplore andwork
withchange!
fromJanetWildmanto All Participants:
Letsshare thisnewresource - looksgreat!
fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants:
Immunitytochange?Sometimesa'wickedissue'too,perhaps.
fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants:
FEAR holdspeople back.If we are talkingaboutthe NHSthere isa lotof itabout.Needtolookfor
where the alliesare.Oftenthe "outsidersinside"like "patientleaders"are sufficientlyfree to
expressourselvesthatwe can be powerful alliesininfluencing.
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hmm*start reflecting*
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Question...If you're notpartof the problem, thenyoucan'tbe part of the solution....Where do
fresheyescome from?Whatif the people withthe problemdon'thave the skills?
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Is educationbeingusedtodetermine whoissmarter - notalways
fromJon Bryant toAll Participants:
as a videodirectorthisisabout engagementandtappingintoheadhertsand minds
fromPaul WoodleytoHannah Wall (privately):
Hi Hannah,gladto see you were able tomake it
fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants:
Look more widelyastowhere the skillsandresourcesare.If itis assumedthatthose on the
receivingendare nothingbut"needs"and"problemstobe fixed"there isariskof missingwhere
there maybe assetsthatcan contribute tothe solution.
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I love thisslide Lois - a definate tweetthere.
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doeschange alwayshave to be orientatedaroundaproblem?
fromDominicCushnanto All Participants:
wowlotsof questions
fromJon Bryant toAll Participants:
the problemmayinfact justbe a symptonsolookdeeper
fromHana Saidto All Participants:
we see the symptomof the systemissues"problem"whichleadsustotechnical solutionsrather
than adaptive
fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants:
Ouch anotherquestionlookedatpurelythroughanorganisational lens.
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I thinkI see the real resistance sometimes,recognise the immunityissue,butthendon'talwayshave
the abilitytochallenge that
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Doesthisgo back to whatare the triggersof change
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please reminduswhatthe Twitter# is
fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants:
I htinkwe needtosee tackilinghealthandsocial care issuesnotasthingsto be solvedby
"organisations"butbypatients,citizenscommunitieswiththe organisationsfacilitatingthat.It
meansreframingthe whole waywe lookatwhoisinvolvedin"change"
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whatis the # againplease?
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#edgetalks
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#edgetalksfortwitterchat
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thanks
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tq
fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants:
*sensoryoverload*
fromloiswreathall toAll Participants:
financial issuesblindside change aswe become riskadverse anda lackof delgationoccurs
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isit our perceptionof the groupthatis the problem
fromMike Taylorto All Participants:
The problemisoftenhiddenbecausethe peopleatthe heartof the problemare oftenblindedby
the fact that theyare actuallyconsumedbyself interestbutsaytheyare actingin the interestof the
atient/ public.
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verydifficulttoengage teamswhoare underresourcedandwhose organisationsare closing(NHS
reorgs),andwhoare beingaskedtodo more and more.
fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants:
In the UK we patientsare nowinvolvedthroughoutthe systemand increasinglysharingthe change
leadershiptask.Amnottalkingaboutjustgivingourviewsamtalkingaboutbeingacitvelyinvolved
as partnersinchange.
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*self interest*agree Mike
fromMichaelaSlocombe toAll Participants:
Hi Alison,we are keentoinvolvemore patientsinchange here inPlymouthbutreallydon'tknow the
wayto go about it,do youhave any suggestions?
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I am a patientbutalso a LeadershipAssociateof the KingsFundandof course a Transformation
FellowatNHSIQ but am not fullyembeddedinthe hierarchywhichgivesme sometimesmore
powerto effectchange butIDO getexcludedfromlessforwardthinkingorganisastionsthanNHSIQ
Horizons.
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Mike - self interestisapplicablealthoasa systemthe NHSpaternalisticattitudesisgenerallythe
norm
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I have loadsof infoMichaela& some contacts youcan go to in Plymouthinfactwhocan help.Why
not email me acameron375@yahoo.co.uk.MyrecoverystartedinPlymouthatLongreachin
Mannamead
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Beingan outsidermeansyoucansay whatyou like....butonlyintheory!Bettertake intoaccountthe
SCARFmodel
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Thank youso muchAlison.
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I love thisideaaboutquietleadershipandhow toopertionalisethis.goodone!
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Cerntainty - lotsof people can'thear the messagesaboutchange because theyperceive threats
where threatsmaynot (initially) exist
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AlisonCameronhave youheardof http://www.patientvoices.org.uk/
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Acronymsare a goodthingto avoidinmy experience.Perhapsexplainthe SCARFmodel?
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Thanksfor that linkWendy!
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itson the screenAlison
fromJanetWildmanto All Participants:
Social connectionsare sometimesdifficulttocreate - toolsand methodsare needed
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StatusCertaintyAutonomyRelatedenessFairness
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Great model - thanksLoisfor shringSCARF
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Ego comesin manyforms,so use it:)
fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants:
I have heardof PatientVoicesyes.Iamkeenthatpatientstoriesare heardbutmy ownworkis more
aboutwhat we thendo withthem.There isa continuumof enagementandam increasingly
interestedinhowwe moverfrom"patientvoice"to"patientleadership".
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and I'm nota fasttyper!:-(
fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants:
Sorry David.Amlaggingbehindwiththe slidesforsome reason.
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patientvoicesare soimportant,butonlywhentheyleadtochange - where unpaidcarersare
involved,theirvoicesare importanttoo
fromJanetWildmanto All Participants:
hownewideasgetimprove isdifficulttosee andto be transparentabout..
fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants:
To use Sovietterminologyformmyoldlife - neednotjustperestroika(reconstruction) butalso
"glasnost"- we are constanty inthe formerand struggle withthe latter.
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@zoe part of the change model?
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Hard to identifypersonalityof anorg the size of the NHS
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@dom - yesNHS Change Model
fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants:
Tokenisticcapturingof dataand consultingwithnointentionof changinganythingisnolongerfitfor
purpose.Ihave "consultationfatigue"Ispottokenismamile off.
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I shouldhave said"glasnost"isopenness.
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RightAlison
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Can we experimentwiththesethinkingstylesinthe UKto supportth
fromJon Bryant toAll Participants:
Target drivenculturescancreate linearthinkingsomakingchange more difficult
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YEs, yes,yes,that'sit. Gettingsomethingactuallydone iswhatIlack!
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Couldn'tagree more Alison,workinginadata provisionenvironment,we are constantlybeingasked
to provide more andmore data but withoutaclear purpose andrarelysee improvementsbeing
implemented!
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There isnow a Patient Directorinan NHSorg who sharesstrategicleadershipwithclinical and
managerial leaders.We needmore of this.Iam alsonow an equal partnerindesigningthe new
INdependenPatientSafetyInvestigationServie alongwithfamilymemberswhohave beendirectly
harmedby failings.Itfeelsthe opposite of tokenistic.
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It wouldbe interestingtooverlaythiswithMyersBriggs.
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The opposite istrue too - whendata iscollectedautomaticallyandpresentedtoprofessionals,
unable tointerpretanduse fordecisionmaking - informationskillsdeficit
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For citizenrebelswe have alongerjourneyaswe are outsidersthe NHS
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fearkeepsusingroup thinksothat we dont embrace these new waysof understandingcolleagues
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Yes,Jon.We oftenhave tofightto gaincredibilityfirst
fromJon Bryant toAll Participants:
Hi David...butitsworththe journey,evengreatersatisfaction:)
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Jon,David,yourconversationremindsme of tribalismamonghealthcare professionals - we all have
to prove ourselvestoone anothertomake the transitionfromstrangertoinsider.
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whenwe begintochange the conversationculture andgroupthinkgravitatesusbackto the norm...
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I totallyagree Jon
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Great slide
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I workedall mylife asan influencer
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What isROI?
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If you have no Med or Academicqualstrustme itsa longjourneygainingcredabilityforcreative
problemsolvers.
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Returnon investment
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ROI - returnoninvestment
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Returnon Investment
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Thanks!
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i dontknoweither...thoughtitwas justmwe !
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ohhhhhhthankss
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Love CitizenRebels,Jon!
fromSusan Baxter-Wynne toPaul Woodley(privately):
Hi there,thisisgreat!!will itbe possible togetacopy of the slidesfromtodayswebex?Thanks Sue
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I rather like ittoo:) wearitwithpride Laura
fromJanetWildmanto All Participants:
To start withobjectionisaconfidentpositiontotake -whose brave enough?
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ROI isclearlymore of an Americanism
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Pride isan interestingnotionforusall Jon- maybe drivesusall more thanwe like tothink.Linkedto
our identityperhaps...
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Laura taken3 yearsbut I will getmyLD suicide preveNttool forLDppl in NHS
fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants:
Go Jon!
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It's hard to maintainenergyandbelief overalongtime periodsometimesIthink.
fromJanetWildmanto All Participants:
Self talk - reflectionandempathetic.Totallyagree.Letsgetoutof the wayof our ownsuccess..
fromJon Bryant toAll Participants:
Laura ..Pride yes,butneedtowatchego doesntdistortyourvision
fromDavidEllisto All Participants:
NHS needsleaderswhocancreate a culture of change intheirorganisations!
fromLaura Tooley toAll Participants:
IndeedJon - egois tricky!LessonsfromPlato'sRingof GygeesandOrwell'sAnimal Farmtoo!
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ThanksDom:)
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The more I emerge mymindsetfromthe Tribe - the more I recognise itincolleagues
fromJon Bryant toAll Participants:
Laura...taddyslexicsolearnedbydoingnotreading,sowiredalittle different
fromDominicCushnanto All Participants:
CitizenRebel - AlthoughIjoinedNHSayeara go feel verymuchlike acitizenrebel still (random)
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Roomfor inclusionanddiversityJon!Learningislearning.Difference isFAB.
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I alwaysthinkitsa goodideato try and put myself inothersshoesandlookatthe issue/problem
fromtheirperspective. Thisveryoftenmakesareallybigdifferenceinhow youapproachthings.
fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants:
Dominic- 27 years inand still aCitizenRebel!
fromJon Bryant toAll Participants:
@Dom embrace yourCitizenRebel sideitswhatisinour hearts:) and makesus tick
fromDavidEllisto All Participants:
AbsolutelyWendy - speakthe otherperson'scurrency!
fromJon Bryant toAll Participants:
Laura..andwhyI feel sooooocofortable here:) beenarealation
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Feelingoverwhelmedbychangesovercomesuswithoutwarning - happenedtome yesterday.What
isbeingtakenawayso that I can take on the new ways?
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I have enabled'workexperience'withateammemberfromanotherteamwhowasstrugglingwith
herown role to joinmyteam1 day a weektogive heran insightintothe workwe do andhow that
mightimpacton herrole. What startedout as a way of supportingherthroughdifficulttimeshas
workedoutto benefitbothmyteamandher team. Small changescan make a bigdifference.
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Laura justwishthere wasa spoll chickerto helpmyspalling
fromCarmenMedinato All Participants:
Yes tooftenchange agentsare perceivedasjustaddingnew thingstodo..evenif theyare goodideas
people don'trespondwelltomore work
fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants:
Spelling?Pah.Ican understandyouclearly.
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Needtoadd that thiswasresistedbyhermanagersbutwe persisted!
fromCarmenMedinato All Participants:
WhenI was at CIA and someone suggestedanew technologyIwouldsaywill itrequireadditional
steps?
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Evenif people are opentoand enthusiastictochange,theygettired,andsometimesagapfor a
breatherisa good thingto do.
fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants:
Karen- soundslike it'sall a bitmuch.Ideallychange wouldbe aboutdifferent,notmore,more,
more.Sorry if you're drowningabit �
fromJon Bryant toAll Participants:
Laura Twitterhas done muchfor my spelling(am61now )
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I'm usuallyenthusiasticaboutchange because that'show we survive andoursystemremainsrobust
but sometimesitgetsa bitmuch,especiallywhenitall makesme tired.
fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants:
Mine has deteriorated!Circa.1970.
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Ah Laura, you're funny:-)
fromJustine SmithtoAll Participants:
10% isprettylow,am surprisedatthat,but heartened
fromJon Bryant toAll Participants:
Laura :):)
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Karen,do youthinkit'salsoabout the supportone gets?
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unfortunatelyi have toleave now,hope the restgoeswell....thankyou
fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants:
Good leadership,mentoringandcoachingfeel like bare minimumstuffforthis!
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Laura, I'm feelinglike the supporthasbeenpulledoutfromunderme atthe moment.I'msure it'sa
temporarythingandwhenthe newrelationshipsemerge we'll all be fine again....like redefininga
tribe andits attributes
fromPaul WoodleytoCarl Haggerty(privately):
We are recordingthe sessionsoyouwon'tmissanything
fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants:
Bye Carl.
fromJon Bryant toAll Participants:
Labellingthe people youwanttochange as "stupid"will take you inthe wrongdirection,openminds
matter
fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants:
Hmm Karen,youhave your rebel friends!You're notalone 😊
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Organisational stablitywouldreallyhelp,unfortunatelythe NHSisnotgood at this!
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ThanksLaura!
fromJon Bryant toAll Participants:
Findingalliesmaybe aboutfindingarandomcommoninterestsoconnectionshave more depth
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I couldn'tagree more Wendy- people change soquicklyanditreallygetsinthe way
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What a relief tohearthat we can get ridof the rhetoricand blahblah!Yeah!!!
fromJon Bryant toAll Participants:
Speakyouaudienceslanguage,one toone
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I'm tiredof formal language whenitcomestorelatingwithhumansaboutchange
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<< YES YES
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AmenKaren
fromJon Bryant toAll Participants:
and Here Here fromme @Dom
fromDominicCushnanto All Participants:
i love splittestingveryinsightful
fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants:
#noblahblah
fromJon Bryant toAll Participants:
'Dom If I hadto make the simple complicatedIwouldinvent aloadof new wordsand phrases
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my mantra - KISS- keepitsimple stupid:-)
fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants:
LikingKISS!Brilliant.
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Managers andleaderstendtosay 'buy in'whentheymeanfollow through.Oris'buyin' a term they
use to soundlike they're talkinglike aleader?
fromJon Bryant toAll Participants:
Buy inalwaysseemseasiertome,butthe lastyard feelslike amile,huge inertianeeded
fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants:
'Are you up forthis?'Betterthan buy-inmaybe.
fromJon Bryant toAll Participants:
none of those reallyfittedme thatwell
fromDominicCushnanto All Participants:
Laura Tooley#noblahblahlove that
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EarlierthisyearI hosteda hackathonfor the fisttime inmyorganisation - by showingIknew the
risksI was able todo it ina risk averse organisationthatwantedtoprotectitsreputationbyusing
costlyeventmanagementprocesses
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Let's start a movement,Dominic!
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Verybrave Karen.
fromDominicCushnanto All Participants:
HI Karenwouldlove toknowmore abouthow that went - can we touch base afterthis?
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Love that ideaKarenDay - hackathon
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dominic.cushnan@nhsiq.nhs.uk
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Sure Dominic.My email isk.day@auckland.ac.nz
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Chat from Edge Talk by Rebels at Work on the 2nd October 2015

  • 1. fromJodi Brown to All Panelists: Thisis so exciting!!!!! fromJodi Brown to All Panelists: Loud andclear Lois fromJodi Brown to All Panelists: Twittermonitorreportingforduty! fromVal Dez-La-Lourto All Participants: Good morningall :) fromPaul WoodleytoAll Attendees: Good morningeveryonewhereveryouare! fromLaura TooleytoAll Panelists: We can hearyou!!! fromLois KellytoAll Participants: Good morningfromProvidence,RI,USA fromJodi Brown to All Participants: Good morningeveryone.It'sJodi here fromafoggyOxfordshire.I'mTwittermonitortodayandwe'll be tweetingusingthe hashtag#EdgeTalks fromKate PoundtoAll Participants: Morningall,I'm in sunnyNottinghamtoday fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: MorningTeam Edge:) morningworld...morningrebels fromKate PoundtoAll Participants: MorningJon fromPaul WoodleytoAll Attendees: Morningeveryone fromasunnyBedworth fromSiobhanWeavertoAll Participants: Helloall,I'minCambridgeshire fromKarenDay to All Participants: Hi. I'm KarenDay fromAuckland,NewZealand fromMichaelaSlocombe toAll Participants: Morningfrom Plymouth! fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: "wavesback"to missioncontrol fromCarmenMedinato All Participants: Hello.Thisis Carmenfromthe East Coast of America.Thanksforjoining! fromKate PoundtoAll Participants: Morning,so excitedabouttoday fromDavidEllisto All Participants: Good morningeveryonefromfoggyWarrington fromDominicCushnanto All Participants: MorningSiobhan,KarenMichaelaandDavid fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: Morningeveryone - I'mLaura Tooley@Laura521531139 from Birmingham, UK 👋� fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: Morning! fromDominicCushnanto All Participants: All of UK in fogthismorning? fromSiobhanWeavertoAll Participants: We're sunnyin Cambs fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: It's sunnyhere!
  • 2. fromHana Saidto All Participants: Good morningeveryone fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: Fog lifting fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: Seemssymbolicfortoday!!! fromDavidEllisto All Participants: It's buringoff - goingtobe a beautiful day. fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: Thank youinadvance for bringingusall together �👯👯�👫👫��👯��👫�🌓 fromEileenShevlintoAll Participants: hi thisis eileenshevlinfromnorthernireland fromJohn Rouse toAll Participants: Hi,John fromaboutas farnorth inEnglandas its possible tobe. fromElizabethWoodto All Participants: HellofromNZ frommortenpytte to All Participants: hellofromNorway fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants: MorningComrades.Alisonhere,KensingtonLondon. fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: I will be listeningtotodaywithpalliativeandendof life care inmind - alsocompassionate and courageousleadershipandcoaching.New UKNational Frameworkof interest'Ambitionsfor PalliativeandEndof Life Care: A national frameworkforlocal action2015-2020 www.endoflifecareambitions.org.uknow THAT'sa change challenge ✨ fromEileenShevlintoAll Participants: i love beinginvolvedinthese talks,somuclearning fromZoe Lord to All Participants: Hellofromstaffordshire,England! fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: Practicallyaneighbour,Zoe!Hi fromBrum! fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants: Loud andclear fromSoo Hun to All Participants: Good morningAll SoofromNorthernIrelandhere - canhear all loudandclear fromCarmenMedinato All Participants: don't holdthatCIA thingagainstme fromWendyHarrisonto All Participants: hellofromWestYorkshire - Yorkshire &HumberCommissioningSupport fromSusie PeacheytoAll Participants: I cant hear anythingyeteither fromRichard Corderto All Participants: HellofromBostonMA fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants: Don't worryCarmenI am an ex RussianexpertwithdiceyKGBconections.Theyneverletme forget it either fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: got yeraudioon the phone,phew;) fromloiswreathall toAll Participants: 1 fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants:
  • 3. We love tobe so Edgy we do the slidesbydroppingthemall onthe floorandpickingthemupat random.Keepsuson ourtoes. fromJohn Rouse toAll Participants: 1 fromKarenWarren to All Participants: 1 fromDavidEllisto All Participants: Tryingto effectchange froma non-leadershipposition fromMohbub Uddinto All Participants: 2 frommortenpytte to All Participants: 2 fromElizabethWoodto All Participants: 2 fromClodaghO'Briento All Participants: 2 fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: Can't vote or see results... fromDominicCushnanto All Participants: Laura theyare on a panel underchat fromKjetil BordviktoAll Participants: Can't vote or see results.Connectingfromsmartphone webex... fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants: I am alreadyfeelingthe NHSbiaswhichwe needtobe wary of if we genuinelyare talkingabout change across the systemwhichincludessocial care. fromZoe Lord to All Participants: I can't vote as on iPad - it's mytechnology - soplease don'twaitfor me!!! fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: Still can'tsee,buton an iPad!Uphill though!! fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: no surpiseswithpoll 2results fromSoo Hun to All Participants: Speakers - are you able to see commentsonthe chat? fromSiobhanWeavertoAll Participants: mmmm....noneof the above!! fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: Top three challenges: Boss Culture Andthenmaybe conflictavoidance fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: Siobhan - you rebel! fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: Culture! fromSiobhanWeavertoAll Participants: witha cause??? fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: He he fromMichaelaSlocombe toAll Participants: pennyyouneedtocall in withyourcomputer fromJon Bryant toAll Participants:
  • 4. approval processdoesnotencourage outthe lateral ideas fromSoo Hun to All Participants: Dominic- understandthe challengesof technology:) fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants: I workwithat leastfourorganisationssoitis provingquite toughtofitmyself inthe box againwhich isnothingnew.Soa challenge Ihave ishavingto adaptto varyingdegreesof readinessforchange. fromSiobhanWeavertoAll Participants: thinkthisisreallypositivethat1 is0% fromSiobhanWeavertoAll Participants: and 2 forthat matter fromElizabethWoodto All Participants: Gettingholdof data to supportmeasuringanychange istricky fromPaul WoodleytoAll Attendees: Good morningeveryone,if youcannothearyouwill needtoconnectyouraudiousingthe audiotab at the topleftof the screen fromDominicCushnanto All Participants: :) fromJanetWildmanto All Participants: Ideasand culture are reallyimportantbutthere are oftenoutof sync fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: goodto see we are not worriedabout"us"onlygoodoutcomesforothers fromSiobhanWeavertoAll Participants: agree JanetWildman fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: Needtobelieveit'spossible - Paul Freire - "hopelessnessisbuthope thathas lostitsbearings" fromCarmenMedinato All Participants: love the Paul Freire quote fromDominicCushnanto All Participants: Love that laura fromMohbub Uddinto All Participants: In mygeneal experience,most workplaceswelcome 'rebels'.It'sgoodfor the worker,the manager and the employertohave someone intheirwhogoesbeyondtheirjobdescription. fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: change is natural state of universe funnyhow muchwe resistthis fromJanetWildmanto All Participants: Certaintyisthe opposite of fearbutthat's the businesswe are in fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants: I have had to modifymyapproach.Asa "patient"change agentcomingfromthe standpointof "outsiderinside"I have hadto try to plantseedsoftenone conversationasa time ratherthandrop insmetex toblastthe barriersaway. fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants: That was "semtex"there of course.Spellingisdodgytoday. fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: It's a bit scary sometimes - evenforseniorandexperiencedfolk"leadersneedtoallow themselves to enterthe 'dark nightof the soul'and face theirinnermostfears,doubtsanduncertainties" RichardOlivier. fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: thinkownershiphasalotto do withresistance,itsnotmyideaso no fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants: So mucheasierto relegate the issue tothe "technical"asthe messyanddifficult emotional stuffis thenavoided.
  • 5. fromJanetWildmanto All Participants: Adaptive change isthe newsocial eraandcritical for radicals fromDominicCushnanto All Participants: I will agree withyouthere Alison fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants: Laura I love the "dark nightof the soul"comment.I reallysee thatinaction.May "borrow"that expressionformypresentations! fromJanetWildmanto All Participants: sometimeswe mightwiththe technical butwe needtomove tothe adaptive quickly fromCarmenMedinato All Participants: I believewe willbe makingoutslidesavailable onslideshare fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants: Hi Paul and Dom.Am withthe teaminspirit. fromJanetWildmanto All Participants: Adaptive change isaboutparticipationandengagement fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants: As someone onthe receivingendof servicesIgotusedtobeing"done to"not "done with".Thisis whatmy workis aboutchanging. fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: Alisonpleasedo!Hisbookon adaptable leadershipwell wortharead - whoknew Shakespeare had so muchto offer! fromDominicCushnanto All Participants: interestingwayof framingthatLois fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants: Veryoftenwe still lookatthe "team" as beingexclusivelythose withinourownformal organisational structure.Thatismissingoutone legof the stool hence the effortismore likelytofall over. fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: we come back to ownership,wherecaringaboutthigsare valued fromJanetWildmanto All Participants: immunitytochange isa reallyinteresting fromKarenDay to All Participants: nice phrase 'immunitytochange'- makesa lotof sense fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: The OxfordStrategicLeadershipProgramme - biggestinfluence onmyabilitytoexplore andwork withchange! fromJanetWildmanto All Participants: Letsshare thisnewresource - looksgreat! fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: Immunitytochange?Sometimesa'wickedissue'too,perhaps. fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants: FEAR holdspeople back.If we are talkingaboutthe NHSthere isa lotof itabout.Needtolookfor where the alliesare.Oftenthe "outsidersinside"like "patientleaders"are sufficientlyfree to expressourselvesthatwe can be powerful alliesininfluencing. fromDominicCushnanto All Participants: hmm*start reflecting* fromZoe Lord to All Participants: Question...If you're notpartof the problem, thenyoucan'tbe part of the solution....Where do fresheyescome from?Whatif the people withthe problemdon'thave the skills? fromJanetWildmanto All Participants: Is educationbeingusedtodetermine whoissmarter - notalways
  • 6. fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: as a videodirectorthisisabout engagementandtappingintoheadhertsand minds fromPaul WoodleytoHannah Wall (privately): Hi Hannah,gladto see you were able tomake it fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants: Look more widelyastowhere the skillsandresourcesare.If itis assumedthatthose on the receivingendare nothingbut"needs"and"problemstobe fixed"there isariskof missingwhere there maybe assetsthatcan contribute tothe solution. fromJanetWildmanto All Participants: I love thisslide Lois - a definate tweetthere. fromKarenDay to All Participants: doeschange alwayshave to be orientatedaroundaproblem? fromDominicCushnanto All Participants: wowlotsof questions fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: the problemmayinfact justbe a symptonsolookdeeper fromHana Saidto All Participants: we see the symptomof the systemissues"problem"whichleadsustotechnical solutionsrather than adaptive fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants: Ouch anotherquestionlookedatpurelythroughanorganisational lens. fromWendyJohnsontoAll Participants: I thinkI see the real resistance sometimes,recognise the immunityissue,butthendon'talwayshave the abilitytochallenge that fromJanetWildmanto All Participants: Doesthisgo back to whatare the triggersof change fromKarenDay to All Participants: please reminduswhatthe Twitter# is fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants: I htinkwe needtosee tackilinghealthandsocial care issuesnotasthingsto be solvedby "organisations"butbypatients,citizenscommunitieswiththe organisationsfacilitatingthat.It meansreframingthe whole waywe lookatwhoisinvolvedin"change" fromSoo Hun to Paul Woodley(privately): whatis the # againplease? fromDominicCushnanto All Participants: #edgetalks fromPaul WoodleytoAll Participants: #edgetalksfortwitterchat fromKarenDay to All Participants: thanks fromSoo Hun to Paul Woodley(privately): tq fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: *sensoryoverload* fromloiswreathall toAll Participants: financial issuesblindside change aswe become riskadverse anda lackof delgationoccurs fromSiobhanWeavertoAll Participants: isit our perceptionof the groupthatis the problem fromMike Taylorto All Participants:
  • 7. The problemisoftenhiddenbecausethe peopleatthe heartof the problemare oftenblindedby the fact that theyare actuallyconsumedbyself interestbutsaytheyare actingin the interestof the atient/ public. fromWendyHarrisonto All Participants: verydifficulttoengage teamswhoare underresourcedandwhose organisationsare closing(NHS reorgs),andwhoare beingaskedtodo more and more. fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants: In the UK we patientsare nowinvolvedthroughoutthe systemand increasinglysharingthe change leadershiptask.Amnottalkingaboutjustgivingourviewsamtalkingaboutbeingacitvelyinvolved as partnersinchange. fromDominicCushnanto All Participants: *self interest*agree Mike fromMichaelaSlocombe toAll Participants: Hi Alison,we are keentoinvolvemore patientsinchange here inPlymouthbutreallydon'tknow the wayto go about it,do youhave any suggestions? fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants: I am a patientbutalso a LeadershipAssociateof the KingsFundandof course a Transformation FellowatNHSIQ but am not fullyembeddedinthe hierarchywhichgivesme sometimesmore powerto effectchange butIDO getexcludedfromlessforwardthinkingorganisastionsthanNHSIQ Horizons. fromSoo Hun to All Participants: Mike - self interestisapplicablealthoasa systemthe NHSpaternalisticattitudesisgenerallythe norm fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants: I have loadsof infoMichaela& some contacts youcan go to in Plymouthinfactwhocan help.Why not email me acameron375@yahoo.co.uk.MyrecoverystartedinPlymouthatLongreachin Mannamead fromDavidEllisto All Participants: Beingan outsidermeansyoucansay whatyou like....butonlyintheory!Bettertake intoaccountthe SCARFmodel fromMichaelaSlocombe toAll Participants: Thank youso muchAlison. fromJanetWildmanto All Participants: I love thisideaaboutquietleadershipandhow toopertionalisethis.goodone! fromKarenDay to All Participants: Cerntainty - lotsof people can'thear the messagesaboutchange because theyperceive threats where threatsmaynot (initially) exist fromWendyHarrisonto All Participants: AlisonCameronhave youheardof http://www.patientvoices.org.uk/ fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants: Acronymsare a goodthingto avoidinmy experience.Perhapsexplainthe SCARFmodel? fromKarenDay to All Participants: Thanksfor that linkWendy! fromDavidEllisto All Participants: itson the screenAlison fromJanetWildmanto All Participants: Social connectionsare sometimesdifficulttocreate - toolsand methodsare needed fromDominicCushnanto All Participants: StatusCertaintyAutonomyRelatedenessFairness fromRichard Corderto All Participants: Great model - thanksLoisfor shringSCARF
  • 8. fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: Ego comesin manyforms,so use it:) fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants: I have heardof PatientVoicesyes.Iamkeenthatpatientstoriesare heardbutmy ownworkis more aboutwhat we thendo withthem.There isa continuumof enagementandam increasingly interestedinhowwe moverfrom"patientvoice"to"patientleadership". fromDavidEllisto All Participants: and I'm nota fasttyper!:-( fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants: Sorry David.Amlaggingbehindwiththe slidesforsome reason. fromDavidEllisto All Participants: patientvoicesare soimportant,butonlywhentheyleadtochange - where unpaidcarersare involved,theirvoicesare importanttoo fromJanetWildmanto All Participants: hownewideasgetimprove isdifficulttosee andto be transparentabout.. fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants: To use Sovietterminologyformmyoldlife - neednotjustperestroika(reconstruction) butalso "glasnost"- we are constanty inthe formerand struggle withthe latter. fromDominicCushnanto All Participants: @zoe part of the change model? fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: Hard to identifypersonalityof anorg the size of the NHS fromZoe Lord to All Participants: @dom - yesNHS Change Model fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants: Tokenisticcapturingof dataand consultingwithnointentionof changinganythingisnolongerfitfor purpose.Ihave "consultationfatigue"Ispottokenismamile off. fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants: I shouldhave said"glasnost"isopenness. fromDavidEllisto All Participants: RightAlison fromJanetWildmanto All Participants: Can we experimentwiththesethinkingstylesinthe UKto supportth fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: Target drivenculturescancreate linearthinkingsomakingchange more difficult fromElizabethWoodto All Participants: YEs, yes,yes,that'sit. Gettingsomethingactuallydone iswhatIlack! fromWendyHarrisonto All Participants: Couldn'tagree more Alison,workinginadata provisionenvironment,we are constantlybeingasked to provide more andmore data but withoutaclear purpose andrarelysee improvementsbeing implemented! fromAlisonCamerontoAll Participants: There isnow a Patient Directorinan NHSorg who sharesstrategicleadershipwithclinical and managerial leaders.We needmore of this.Iam alsonow an equal partnerindesigningthe new INdependenPatientSafetyInvestigationServie alongwithfamilymemberswhohave beendirectly harmedby failings.Itfeelsthe opposite of tokenistic. fromJanetWildmanto All Participants: It wouldbe interestingtooverlaythiswithMyersBriggs. fromSoo Hun to All Participants:
  • 9. The opposite istrue too - whendata iscollectedautomaticallyandpresentedtoprofessionals, unable tointerpretanduse fordecisionmaking - informationskillsdeficit fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: For citizenrebelswe have alongerjourneyaswe are outsidersthe NHS fromJanetWildmanto All Participants: fearkeepsusingroup thinksothat we dont embrace these new waysof understandingcolleagues fromDavidEllisto All Participants: Yes,Jon.We oftenhave tofightto gaincredibilityfirst fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: Hi David...butitsworththe journey,evengreatersatisfaction:) fromKarenDay to All Participants: Jon,David,yourconversationremindsme of tribalismamonghealthcare professionals - we all have to prove ourselvestoone anothertomake the transitionfromstrangertoinsider. fromJanetWildmanto All Participants: whenwe begintochange the conversationculture andgroupthinkgravitatesusbackto the norm... fromDavidEllisto All Participants: I totallyagree Jon fromSiobhanWeavertoAll Participants: Great slide fromDavidEllisto All Participants: I workedall mylife asan influencer fromClodaghO'Briento All Participants: What isROI? fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: If you have no Med or Academicqualstrustme itsa longjourneygainingcredabilityforcreative problemsolvers. fromJanetWildmanto All Participants: Returnon investment fromKarenDay to All Participants: ROI - returnoninvestment fromDavidEllisto All Participants: Returnon Investment fromClodagh O'Briento All Participants: Thanks! fromloiswreathall toAll Participants: i dontknoweither...thoughtitwas justmwe ! fromloiswreathall toAll Participants: ohhhhhhthankss fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: Love CitizenRebels,Jon! fromSusan Baxter-Wynne toPaul Woodley(privately): Hi there,thisisgreat!!will itbe possible togetacopy of the slidesfromtodayswebex?Thanks Sue fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: I rather like ittoo:) wearitwithpride Laura fromJanetWildmanto All Participants: To start withobjectionisaconfidentpositiontotake -whose brave enough? fromCarmenMedinato All Participants: ROI isclearlymore of an Americanism fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: Pride isan interestingnotionforusall Jon- maybe drivesusall more thanwe like tothink.Linkedto our identityperhaps...
  • 10. fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: Laura taken3 yearsbut I will getmyLD suicide preveNttool forLDppl in NHS fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: Go Jon! fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: It's hard to maintainenergyandbelief overalongtime periodsometimesIthink. fromJanetWildmanto All Participants: Self talk - reflectionandempathetic.Totallyagree.Letsgetoutof the wayof our ownsuccess.. fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: Laura ..Pride yes,butneedtowatchego doesntdistortyourvision fromDavidEllisto All Participants: NHS needsleaderswhocancreate a culture of change intheirorganisations! fromLaura Tooley toAll Participants: IndeedJon - egois tricky!LessonsfromPlato'sRingof GygeesandOrwell'sAnimal Farmtoo! fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: ThanksDom:) fromSiobhanWeavertoAll Participants: The more I emerge mymindsetfromthe Tribe - the more I recognise itincolleagues fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: Laura...taddyslexicsolearnedbydoingnotreading,sowiredalittle different fromDominicCushnanto All Participants: CitizenRebel - AlthoughIjoinedNHSayeara go feel verymuchlike acitizenrebel still (random) fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: Roomfor inclusionanddiversityJon!Learningislearning.Difference isFAB. fromWendyHarrisonto All Participants: I alwaysthinkitsa goodideato try and put myself inothersshoesandlookatthe issue/problem fromtheirperspective. Thisveryoftenmakesareallybigdifferenceinhow youapproachthings. fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: Dominic- 27 years inand still aCitizenRebel! fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: @Dom embrace yourCitizenRebel sideitswhatisinour hearts:) and makesus tick fromDavidEllisto All Participants: AbsolutelyWendy - speakthe otherperson'scurrency! fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: Laura..andwhyI feel sooooocofortable here:) beenarealation fromKarenDay to All Participants: Feelingoverwhelmedbychangesovercomesuswithoutwarning - happenedtome yesterday.What isbeingtakenawayso that I can take on the new ways? fromWendyHarrisonto All Participants: I have enabled'workexperience'withateammemberfromanotherteamwhowasstrugglingwith herown role to joinmyteam1 day a weektogive heran insightintothe workwe do andhow that mightimpacton herrole. What startedout as a way of supportingherthroughdifficulttimeshas workedoutto benefitbothmyteamandher team. Small changescan make a bigdifference. fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: Laura justwishthere wasa spoll chickerto helpmyspalling fromCarmenMedinato All Participants: Yes tooftenchange agentsare perceivedasjustaddingnew thingstodo..evenif theyare goodideas people don'trespondwelltomore work fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: Spelling?Pah.Ican understandyouclearly. fromWendyHarrisonto All Participants:
  • 11. Needtoadd that thiswasresistedbyhermanagersbutwe persisted! fromCarmenMedinato All Participants: WhenI was at CIA and someone suggestedanew technologyIwouldsaywill itrequireadditional steps? fromKarenDay to All Participants: Evenif people are opentoand enthusiastictochange,theygettired,andsometimesagapfor a breatherisa good thingto do. fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: Karen- soundslike it'sall a bitmuch.Ideallychange wouldbe aboutdifferent,notmore,more, more.Sorry if you're drowningabit � fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: Laura Twitterhas done muchfor my spelling(am61now ) fromKarenDay to All Participants: I'm usuallyenthusiasticaboutchange because that'show we survive andoursystemremainsrobust but sometimesitgetsa bitmuch,especiallywhenitall makesme tired. fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: Mine has deteriorated!Circa.1970. fromKarenDay to All Participants: Ah Laura, you're funny:-) fromJustine SmithtoAll Participants: 10% isprettylow,am surprisedatthat,but heartened fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: Laura :):) fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: Karen,do youthinkit'salsoabout the supportone gets? fromCarl Haggertyto All Participants: unfortunatelyi have toleave now,hope the restgoeswell....thankyou fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: Good leadership,mentoringandcoachingfeel like bare minimumstuffforthis! fromKarenDay to All Participants: Laura, I'm feelinglike the supporthasbeenpulledoutfromunderme atthe moment.I'msure it'sa temporarythingandwhenthe newrelationshipsemerge we'll all be fine again....like redefininga tribe andits attributes fromPaul WoodleytoCarl Haggerty(privately): We are recordingthe sessionsoyouwon'tmissanything fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: Bye Carl. fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: Labellingthe people youwanttochange as "stupid"will take you inthe wrongdirection,openminds matter fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: Hmm Karen,youhave your rebel friends!You're notalone 😊 fromWendyHarrisonto All Participants: Organisational stablitywouldreallyhelp,unfortunatelythe NHSisnotgood at this! fromKarenDay to All Participants: ThanksLaura! fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: Findingalliesmaybe aboutfindingarandomcommoninterestsoconnectionshave more depth fromDavidEllisto All Participants: I couldn'tagree more Wendy- people change soquicklyanditreallygetsinthe way fromKarenDay to All Participants:
  • 12. What a relief tohearthat we can get ridof the rhetoricand blahblah!Yeah!!! fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: Speakyouaudienceslanguage,one toone fromKarenDay to All Participants: I'm tiredof formal language whenitcomestorelatingwithhumansaboutchange fromDominicCushnanto All Participants: << YES YES fromCarmenMedinato All Participants: AmenKaren fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: and Here Here fromme @Dom fromDominicCushnanto All Participants: i love splittestingveryinsightful fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: #noblahblah fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: 'Dom If I hadto make the simple complicatedIwouldinvent aloadof new wordsand phrases fromWendyHarrisonto All Participants: my mantra - KISS- keepitsimple stupid:-) fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: LikingKISS!Brilliant. fromKarenDay to All Participants: Managers andleaderstendtosay 'buy in'whentheymeanfollow through.Oris'buyin' a term they use to soundlike they're talkinglike aleader? fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: Buy inalwaysseemseasiertome,butthe lastyard feelslike amile,huge inertianeeded fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: 'Are you up forthis?'Betterthan buy-inmaybe. fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: none of those reallyfittedme thatwell fromDominicCushnanto All Participants: Laura Tooley#noblahblahlove that fromKarenDay to All Participants: EarlierthisyearI hosteda hackathonfor the fisttime inmyorganisation - by showingIknew the risksI was able todo it ina risk averse organisationthatwantedtoprotectitsreputationbyusing costlyeventmanagementprocesses fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: Let's start a movement,Dominic! fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: Verybrave Karen. fromDominicCushnanto All Participants: HI Karenwouldlove toknowmore abouthow that went - can we touch base afterthis? fromWendyHarrisonto All Participants: Love that ideaKarenDay - hackathon fromDominicCushnanto All Participants: dominic.cushnan@nhsiq.nhs.uk fromKarenDay to All Participants: Sure Dominic.My email isk.day@auckland.ac.nz fromDominicCushnanto All Participants: < Dorey fromJon Bryant toAll Participants:
  • 13. Dom email addressisnowinmy book:) will dropyoualine fromDominicCushnanto All Participants: @laura yes:) fromDominicCushnanto All Participants: yeahJonwe shouldchatmore often! fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: Thisslide sumsupgoodmentoring fromDavidEllisto All Participants: coachingversusmentoring fromWendyHarrisonto All Participants: coachingconversations fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: @Dom love toengage more,findall thisgetscreative headfizzing fromKarenDay to All Participants: Ooh,I like that'vulnerabilityisthe birthplace of creativity'byBrene Brown fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: Davidgoodpoint,coachingis verypowerful fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: TEDs are fab.Brene is fab.Vulnerabilityisscary,butfab! fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: Justwritten20,000 wordson coachingandmentoring.SOimportantinworkI think. fromKarenDay to All Participants: agree Laura fromWendyHarrisonto All Participants: At the endof eachday,thinkabout somethingnew youhave learnedtodayandshare this. Itreally makesyouthinkaboutwhat youhave actuallyheard. fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: Vulnerablityisaveryapealingtrait,be genlte andgreatthingscancome fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: I like youguys! fromJanetWildmanto All Participants: We showlove whenwe knowhowtobe vulnerable andworkoutloud. fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: laura,gentle alsoletsyounotice whatishappening fromDavidEllisto All Participants: whata lovelychat! fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: If I use wordslike thisatwork,all but a few,shiver!!! fromDominicCushnanto All Participants: lotsof energyfromthis fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: Beinggentle naturallycreatesspace forpeople toexchange ideas fromCeline SchillingertoAll Panelists: Hi everyone!Joininglate,butwantedtopaytribute tothe trulyawesome workdone byLoisand Carmen.Keepitup!We needmore rebelsatwork!Let'schange the worldof worktogether fromCeline SchillingertoAll Participants: Hi everyone!Joininglate,butwantedtopaytribute tothe trulyawesome workdone byLoisand Carmen.Keepitup! We needmore rebelsatwork!Let'schange the worldof worktogether fromWendyHarrisonto All Participants: Reallyenjoyedthissessionandthe chat,veryhelpful :-) fromWendyHarrisonto All Participants:
  • 14. Thank youguys fromSiobhanWeavertoAll Participants: Thank you,greatsession fromKarenDay to All Participants: Thanks.Thiswas a great presentation.Lotstoreflecton. fromJazz Singhto All Participants: Veryhelpful.Thanksguys. fromDavidEllisto All Participants: Many thanks!! fromRichard Corderto All Participants: I LOVE that Loiscloseswithastatementaboutbringingyourauthenticself towhatyoudoand buil on the premise of love - love it! frommortenpytte to All Participants: I enjoyedthe talkvery much,will the slidesbe available? fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: Pointof note about today - warmrespectful humanconnection - all makeschange feelmore possible. fromRichard Corderto All Participants: Thank you! fromVal Dez-La-Lourto All Participants: Wonderful sessionthankyouLois& Carmenandreallyenjoyedthe chatbox - all verytruly inspirational fromRenata Torresto All Panelists: Juststartingmy journeyasa rebel,loadstotake inand lear,thankyou:) fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: Its all aboutpersonal honestyIthink,thatiswhatpeople buyinto fromSiobhanWeavertoAll Participants: groupsof 10!!! the wayforward!! fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: ChaosTheory,Gareth Morgan, nomore than15% influenceoveranything! fromLaura TooleytoAll Participants: Laughing! fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: Nice one Laura #blahblah fromDavidEllisto All Participants: whenyoureallybelievesomething,it'ssomucheasierto sell fromLaura Tooley toAll Participants: Thank youall so much,I have reallyappreciatedthistime,furtherreflectionpromised. fromHana Saidto All Participants: Thank youeveryone fromCarmenMedinato All Participants: Thanksall of youfor your kindattention fromVal Dez-La-Lourto All Participants: Thank youeveryone,hopeyouall have awonderful weekend:) fromCarmenMedinato All Participants: I learnedfromyourcomments fromJon Bryant toAll Participants: Put a bounce inmy Friday! Hugsto all. fromCarmenMedinato All Participants: It is6 am here! fromDominicCushnanto All Participants:
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