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GeoidApp: Things
can be quite better…
and easier
Mohamed Yousif and Mohamed Jaafar
Our Problem
Typical surveying works are :
Expensive
Time Consuming
Outdated
Is it that worse?
Let the numbers speak about themselves
100Km Road Survey Costs
15 days Campaign
Requirement Cost (SDG)
2 Engineers 30,000
3 Workers 9,000
GPS Device 18,000
Optical Level 1,050
2 Cars 30,000
20 Control Points 2,000
Fuel 2,400
Subsistence
costs
5,775
Data Processing 52,000
Total 150,225
Using the old-fashioned way !
Very expensive :(
100Km Road Survey Costs
15 days Campaign
Requirement Cost (SDG)
1 Engineer 15,000
1 Worker 3,000
GPS Device 18,000
1 Car 15,000
Fuel 1,200
Subsistence
costs
1,650
Data Processing 47,000
Total 100,850
Using our approach
Saving to 31.5% :)
Based on empirical results
Number of equipments Cost of equipments Number of workers
(Non-Engineers)
For a surveying network
of 1km * 1km
3 levels
200 sdg for each level 6 workers6 Staffs
3 tapes
2 Theodolites
Normally you would
assume that the
relationship of the cost
versus distance being
surveyed is a linear
function of (distance, cost)
Is it linear?
Oops...
It’s not linear, it’s rather
exponential.
Then why?
The most sought for problem in all
Geodesy
Earth’s figure problem
The updated prices
for > 30 Km
The previous prices
Number of equipments Cost of equipments Number of workers
For a surveying
network of 1km
3*n levels 200 sdg for each
6 workers6*n Staffs
3 tapes
2*n Theodolites 400 sdg for each
The updated prices
# Equip. $ equip (sdg/day) # workers Professionals
For a surveying network of 30
km
3*n levels 200 sdg for each
● 6*n workers
They get even
higher salaries
per project2*n
Theodolit
es
400 sdg for each
Total
station
> 700 2 per device
EDM > 500 2 per device
That’s a lot of millions.
Could it get worse?
The time
For short distances, or areas you need a short amount of time
The rent of equips, workers, however, is proportional to the
time
It’s a hard problem to solve
- Time
- Cost
- AccuracyFor short distances we can rent low-cost equips. For a
short amount of time, with low-salary workers, within the
acceptable accuracy.
It’s a hard problem to solve
- Time
- Cost
- Accuracy
For long distances, we rent expensive equips. for a long
amount of time. The accuracy becomes more critical, e.g. if
the error isn’t acceptable you’ll may find yourself doing the
project again!
We need it to be
used as simple as
this.
Does that even
possible?
We need it to be
● Accurate. Reliable
● Affordable. Spend your money on something else
● JIT. Instantly get results
Let’s imagine
You’ve a wizard that
can make your
whole life easier
A teleportation
machine to instantly
go through 1000s of
kilometers
We couldn’t...
➔ Have a wizard
A further investigation is required,
though.
➔ Build a teleportation
It’s a cool idea. But it’s very hard, isn’t it?
➔ Employers
Convince the employers to not scale
with the job quantity
How we gonna do that?
We want it to be
affordable, reliable,
and JIT.
Consider the case of the GPS
Do you know that GPS
was not adapted in the
surv. Engg. works until
very recently?
Consider the case of the GPS
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Position_resection
Could you imagine that
you’ve to do
complicated surv. works
for calculating your
position?
GPS uses exactly the same
math that is used by the old-
outdated-expensive resection
method
Meet the new new
We made it to be
- Simple. No need for scary courses to learn it
- Customizable. It’s made for you, and just you.
- Reliable. It’s ready for production.
- Fast. You can survey the whole Kh area in just a sec.
- Affordable. Let those bully costs get down
- We made it to be perfect.
- We made it to change the whole surveying professional.
Our Results
The smaller the better
Our Results
The smaller the better
Our Team
Mohamed Yousif
Co-Founder
Machine Learning Engineer, Data
Scientist
Mohamed Jaafar
Co-Founder
Mobile App Developer
Milestones
2015 2016
October 2015
It was just an idea
November 2015
Our first successful model
March 2016
A mobile version was
developed
August 2016
We’ve extensively tested
the whole GeoidApp suit.
It’s ready for real-world
use.
What people are saying
``Undulation can be
modelled , which enables
the GPS to be used for
orthometric heights
determination in much
faster and more
economical way than
terrestrial methods.”
Rozsa
``This is far from being
trivial: we now have a
method to replace
leveling, a tedious and
time-consuming old
fashioned method with
GPS leveling, a fast and
modern technique.”
Moritz, et al.
``GPS/Levelling is the
most recent and advanced
method that is used in the
determination of heights”
Ayhan CEYLAN, et al.
Moritz’s textbook Physical Geodesy is the standard textbook in geodesy literature.
It’s built to be Used!
It’s built to be Perfect!
It’s built to be Dominant!
It’s Real.
Starting At
1,999 SDG

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GeoidApp cuts surveying costs 31.5

  • 1. GeoidApp: Things can be quite better… and easier Mohamed Yousif and Mohamed Jaafar
  • 6. Is it that worse? Let the numbers speak about themselves
  • 7. 100Km Road Survey Costs 15 days Campaign Requirement Cost (SDG) 2 Engineers 30,000 3 Workers 9,000 GPS Device 18,000 Optical Level 1,050 2 Cars 30,000 20 Control Points 2,000 Fuel 2,400 Subsistence costs 5,775 Data Processing 52,000 Total 150,225 Using the old-fashioned way ! Very expensive :(
  • 8. 100Km Road Survey Costs 15 days Campaign Requirement Cost (SDG) 1 Engineer 15,000 1 Worker 3,000 GPS Device 18,000 1 Car 15,000 Fuel 1,200 Subsistence costs 1,650 Data Processing 47,000 Total 100,850 Using our approach Saving to 31.5% :)
  • 9. Based on empirical results Number of equipments Cost of equipments Number of workers (Non-Engineers) For a surveying network of 1km * 1km 3 levels 200 sdg for each level 6 workers6 Staffs 3 tapes 2 Theodolites
  • 10. Normally you would assume that the relationship of the cost versus distance being surveyed is a linear function of (distance, cost) Is it linear?
  • 11. Oops... It’s not linear, it’s rather exponential. Then why?
  • 12. The most sought for problem in all Geodesy Earth’s figure problem
  • 14. The previous prices Number of equipments Cost of equipments Number of workers For a surveying network of 1km 3*n levels 200 sdg for each 6 workers6*n Staffs 3 tapes 2*n Theodolites 400 sdg for each
  • 15. The updated prices # Equip. $ equip (sdg/day) # workers Professionals For a surveying network of 30 km 3*n levels 200 sdg for each ● 6*n workers They get even higher salaries per project2*n Theodolit es 400 sdg for each Total station > 700 2 per device EDM > 500 2 per device
  • 16. That’s a lot of millions. Could it get worse?
  • 17. The time For short distances, or areas you need a short amount of time The rent of equips, workers, however, is proportional to the time
  • 18. It’s a hard problem to solve - Time - Cost - AccuracyFor short distances we can rent low-cost equips. For a short amount of time, with low-salary workers, within the acceptable accuracy.
  • 19. It’s a hard problem to solve - Time - Cost - Accuracy For long distances, we rent expensive equips. for a long amount of time. The accuracy becomes more critical, e.g. if the error isn’t acceptable you’ll may find yourself doing the project again!
  • 20. We need it to be used as simple as this.
  • 22. We need it to be ● Accurate. Reliable ● Affordable. Spend your money on something else ● JIT. Instantly get results
  • 24. You’ve a wizard that can make your whole life easier
  • 25. A teleportation machine to instantly go through 1000s of kilometers
  • 26. We couldn’t... ➔ Have a wizard A further investigation is required, though. ➔ Build a teleportation It’s a cool idea. But it’s very hard, isn’t it? ➔ Employers Convince the employers to not scale with the job quantity
  • 27. How we gonna do that? We want it to be affordable, reliable, and JIT.
  • 28. Consider the case of the GPS Do you know that GPS was not adapted in the surv. Engg. works until very recently?
  • 29. Consider the case of the GPS Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Position_resection Could you imagine that you’ve to do complicated surv. works for calculating your position?
  • 30. GPS uses exactly the same math that is used by the old- outdated-expensive resection method
  • 32. We made it to be - Simple. No need for scary courses to learn it - Customizable. It’s made for you, and just you. - Reliable. It’s ready for production. - Fast. You can survey the whole Kh area in just a sec. - Affordable. Let those bully costs get down - We made it to be perfect. - We made it to change the whole surveying professional.
  • 35. Our Team Mohamed Yousif Co-Founder Machine Learning Engineer, Data Scientist Mohamed Jaafar Co-Founder Mobile App Developer
  • 36. Milestones 2015 2016 October 2015 It was just an idea November 2015 Our first successful model March 2016 A mobile version was developed August 2016 We’ve extensively tested the whole GeoidApp suit. It’s ready for real-world use.
  • 37. What people are saying ``Undulation can be modelled , which enables the GPS to be used for orthometric heights determination in much faster and more economical way than terrestrial methods.” Rozsa ``This is far from being trivial: we now have a method to replace leveling, a tedious and time-consuming old fashioned method with GPS leveling, a fast and modern technique.” Moritz, et al. ``GPS/Levelling is the most recent and advanced method that is used in the determination of heights” Ayhan CEYLAN, et al. Moritz’s textbook Physical Geodesy is the standard textbook in geodesy literature.
  • 38. It’s built to be Used!
  • 39. It’s built to be Perfect!
  • 40. It’s built to be Dominant!

Editor's Notes

  1. We ignored the costs of the staff, and the tapes as their cost is trivial. We’ve also ignored the costs of the enggs as they don’t scale with the distance
  2. We’re now on the classical geodesy problem, what is the figure of the earth. If you’re working on area of kilometers, then you can safely consider it as being flat. The wider you can the more complicated assumptions you’ve deal with, the more complicated equipments you must use.
  3. A lot of complications is being added! Dealing with the network errors is non-trivial issue. We’ve to hire engineers for that particular task We need devices with high precisions We can no longer use tapes, we’ve to pay for EDM’s
  4. I’ll ask him: hi dude can you survey to me this area please? And he’d reply: If that is what you’re asking about sir.
  5. GPS gives you accurately your lat, long. More generally it gives you horizontal control. It’s accurate, it’s cheap. You don’t pay to anyone to use it, you can use it the whole time
  6. The funny thing it was not very welcomed by the surveying engineering professionals. Some said it’s results are not accurate. It can ruin the surveying professional, and other stuffs.
  7. It’s telling us a well-known phenomena; the quality is getting better with higher degrees.
  8. There are people who seek for the new, ask whether it could get even better. They are the visionaries.