Faculty, staff, and administrators from across the state joined us to hear Marcie Sims and Laura Moore Mueller of Green River Community College (GRCC) describe the process (and the many unexpected benefits) of their collaborations with high school faculty to create transcript grids that place recent graduates using multiple measures. View the Blackboard Collaborate Recording at https://sas.elluminate.com/p.jnlp?psid=2013-12-05.1306.M.DA17FFAF24BE6F719263A54914E3B5.vcr&sid=2008170
2. • Transcript placement for Math and English
• Accuracy and Access improved
• Increased communication between high
school teachers and college faculty
• Better understanding of outcomes and
placement issues at both HS and CC
Accomplishments
3. Commitment to Change
• Time
–Meeting as a large group
–Site visits
• Open lines of communication
–Sharing expectations
• Support of administration
–Money and food! (If you feed them. . .)
Challenges and Lessons Learned
4. Cultural Differences
• High schools
–Principals Teachers/Counselors
• College
–Faculty Administrators/Advisors
Challenges and Lessons Learned
6. Math
• Data show success
• Need to re-visit developmental math content
• Changing requirements
• Changing course names
• Other college courses using math
placement
Challenges and Lessons Learned
7. SAMPLE
Math
Transcript
Table
If your last math
course was . . .
and you earned
a grade of . . .
and you completed it within_____of
today‟s date:
your placement will be . . .
Geometry I & II
C+ or better
One year Math 72
Two years COMPASS score or Entrance Exam
B+ or better
One year Math 97
Two years Math 72
Advanced
Algebra/Trig
C+ or better One year Math 97
Two years Math 72
B or better One year Math& 141(a), 107, Math 147, 170
Two years Math 97
A One year Math& 141(a), 107, Math 106(b), 147,
170
Two years Math& 141(a), 107, Math 147, 170
Pre-calculus I & II C+ or better One year Math 97, 147 or Math& 107
Two years Math 97
B or better One year Math& 107, 141(a), 142(a), 151(a),
Math 106(b), 147, 170.
Two years Math&141(a), 107, Math 106(b), 147,
170
A- or better One or two years Math& 107, 141(a), 142(a), 151(a),
Math 106(b), 147, 170
BAT Math C+ or better One year Math 97
(if student has
either Pre-
calculus or
Calculus
Two years COMPASS score or Entrance Exam
8. English
• Leads must be respected by colleagues
• Local high school involvement from the
beginning
• Access to course outlines
• Includes high school overall GPA
• Reading and English classes are separate
• Requires COMPASS for data collection
Challenges and Lessons Learned
9. SAMPLE
English
Transcript
Table
If you took this
English course . . .
and you earned
a grade of . . .
and you took it during your . . . your placement will be . . .
Language Arts - 10 B or better Sophomore year English 081
A- or better Sophomore year English 100
Language Arts – 10
Honors
B or better Sophomore or junior year English 100
American Lit &
Writing
B or better
A- or better
Junior year English 100
&English 101
College Writing C or better Senior year &English 101
AP Lang & Comp C or better
B or better
Junior or senior year English 100
&English 101
AP Lit & Comp C+ or better Senior year &English 101
Humanities I or II B or better
A- or better
Junior or senior year English 100
&English 101
In order to place by transcript:
•Students must also take the COMPASS Reading and Writing tests.
•Students must have earned a C or higher in their last English class.
•Students must have a cumulative high school GPA of 2.5 or higher.
•Running Start students must meet GRCC’s minimum requirements for the
program: A COMPASS reading score of 86;
•and a COMPASS writing score of 80 or a Math Placement score of Math
&141 or higher.
Also, for &English 101 or higher placement using transcripts, a COMPASS
reading score of 76 or higher is required.
11. Teachers
• Value through acceptance of grades, work
• Students are more motivated to take
challenging senior year English course
• Personalizing relationships
• Awareness of changes in college
Challenges and Lessons Learned
12. Teachers cont.
• “There has been a history of „us‟ and
„them‟ when it comes to the
communication between the high
school and community college, and
this process demystifies some of the
roles we both play when helping
students find their proper placement.”
Challenges and Lessons Learned
13. Students
• Grades are important
• Realistic expectations of college work
• High school work is valued
• “…wonderful to see how the placement
process works. This is valuable
information to share with students.”
Challenges and Lessons Learned
14. Technology
• Campus online registration adaptation
• Involvement of advisors, administrators, IT,
institutional researchers, faculty,
Testing Center
• College website for students
Challenges and Lessons Learned
16. English Contacts
• Marcie Sims
– (Msims@greenriver.edu)
• Amanda Schaefer
– (Aschaefer@greenriver.edu)
• Facilitated by College Sparks
Mathematics Contact
• Laura Moore-Mueller
– (Lmooremueller@greenriver.edu)
Questions?
Editor's Notes
Placement is directly tied to success in collegeNo longer just a snapshot of student abilityHigher pre-reqs for college, fewer jobs means more attendance at ccHS teachers report that students now see a reason to work for a better gradeRaising the math requirement to 3 years has led to students taking more math. Want to reward that behavior and respect the hs teachers’ work with students.
Placement is directly tied to success in collegeNo longer just a snapshot of student abilityHigher pre-reqs for college, fewer jobs means more attendance at ccHS teachers report that students now see a reason to work for a better gradeRaising the math requirement to 3 years has led to students taking more math. Want to reward that behavior and respect the hs teachers’ work with students.