Gary Zeune CPA interviews white collar criminal Tom Hughes who was convicted twice for stealing from his accounting clients.

1. An Open Discussion With a Convicted Fraudster
Gary Zeune Tom Hughes
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3. Gary Zeune CPA
Gary Zeune CPA has 40+ years in public accounting, corporate finance,
investment banking and had been teaching CPAs full time since 1987.
He also has the only speakers bureau in the U.S. for white collar criminals.
The Pros & The Cons has been profiled in NY Times, WSJ, LA Times,
Forbes and numerous other publications.
Since 1987 more than 20,000 professionals have attended his classes on
fraud, ethics and corporate strategy.
He writes extensively and has had more than 20 articles published in national magazines and
journals.
www.TheProsAndTheCons.com
gzfraud@TheProsAndTheCons.com
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4. Tom Hughes
Speaker On Financial Crime, Ministry And Professional Responsibility
ACFE National Conference presentation: How A Fraudster's First
Stolen Dollar Turned Into Much More
Tom has spoken at the ACFE National Convention and more than 50
government agencies, colleges and universities, and CPA firms. In
addition he partnered with the Vermont State Auditor’s Office, FBI
and/or State Police to train many local governments.
tom@hireathief.com
http://hireathief.com or www.fraudspeaker.net
Watch Fraudsters Tom Hughes
and Diann Cattani talk about trust
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5. The hardest dollar to steal –
– is the very first one.
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6. You didn’t commit the crime, so…
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7. Whatever you do, don’t tell your target
how it was done!
If you get it wrong, your target knows
you’re guessing!
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8. No, you will not see it coming.
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If you could, you would
not have hired me.
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9. I can’t steal from you –
- until you trust me.
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10. Money that’s never stolen –
- never has to be recovered.
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11. Please: Read your mail.
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12. Stop a thief with a Post-it®
note.
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13. Would I hire me?
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14. Do I have to pay taxes on this?
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15. Give me six weeks.
Maybe less.
More to the point:
Two bank statements.
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16. Let me introduce myself:
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17. Let me introduce myself:
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18. Opportunity
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Source: The Fraud Triangle | ACFE
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19. Opportunity
Capability
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Adapted from The Fraud Diamond, CPA Journal
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20. Stealing turned me into a thief.
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21. A Few Red Flags
• Unsustainable lifestyle outside of work
• Eager for more responsibility, but…
• Won’t take a promotion
• Unfaithfulness in small matters
• Failing to share over information
• Debt collectors or process servers
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22. Tom Hughes
www.fraudspeaker.net
@formercriminal
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