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How to Drive Growth with
Customer Success Metrics
Aaron Ross
Predictable Revenue Jason Lemkin
Storm Ventures
Tomasz Tunguz
Redpoint Ventures
Brian Stafford
McKinsey
Aaron Ross
Author, Predictable Revenue
• #1 best-seller, called “The Sales Bible Of Silicon Valley”
• Created outbound sales machine @ Salesforce.com
• Helped multiple clients break $100M in revenue
• 4 kids + 4 more on the way
Lessons From $1B+: What Customer Success Isn„t
• It‟s not about customer satisfaction
• It‟s not free help
• It‟s not an afterthought
It‘s A Growth Driver On Par With Sales & Marketing
Scalable LeadGen Drives Growth
1. Seeds = Customer Success
2. Nets = Inbound Marketing
3. Spears = Outbound Prospecting
Show, Don„t Tell, How You Make Money
Example, @ Gild:
1. Renewals
2. Upsells
3. “90 Day Adoption”
4. Product roadmap feedback
Jason M. Lemkin
Managing Director, Storm Ventures
• Managing Director, Storm Ventures -- $650m
Investor in SaaS/Enterprise
• SaaStr – Largest Web Community of SaaS
Founders – 600k+ views month
• CEO and co-founder, EchoSign/Adobe
Job Title, Company
Hire Early in Customer Success – It Always Works
• One CSM per $2m – But Hired in Advance, Not
Arrears
• Will more reps work? Maybe
• Will more marketing spend work? Maybe
• Will making your customers successful work?
Definitely. Always.
Secord Order Revenue – The Key to Long Term Success
• Customer Success is the Most Accretive
Thing You Can Do – In the Medium Term
• All great companies‟ customers come from
one main source – Word-of-Mouth
• This is accelerated, and much more
measurable, in reccuring revenue models
Customer Success is 5x More Important than Sales
• Sales is only there at the very start
of the relationship.
• CEOs and Founders – Get on a
Plane and Visit your Customers,
Not Just Your Prospects
I Never Lost a Customer I Visited. 5 Visits + 2 Badges Rule.
• Unhappy customers don‟t (always)
churn.
• Unvisited customers that never complain
-- do churn. Need attitudinal, not just
behavioral, loyalty.
• Required: 5 on-sites / month, period. 2
badges from your customers.
If You Can„t Measure It, It Doesn„t Exist
• Whole point of Customer Success =
Increasing Net Negative Churn
• Need tools, processes to measure
and improve here
• Can‟t be a soft science. Cannot be.
No best efforts.
Tomasz Tunguz
Partner, Redpoint Ventures
• I write about SaaS startups at tomtunguz.com
• Redpoint works with many as-a-Service companies
including Stripe, Twilio, Zendesk, Looker, Infer, Tidemark,
and Expensify
• Former PM at Google; statistics nut
Why CS Is Critical
Happy customers, better product
Grow faster
Decrease capital needs
Hypothetical SaaS Company
$50k in MRR
50 customers at $1k ARR each
$1250 in CAC, Sales Efficiency of 0.8
Growing 15% m/m
How Much to Spend on CS?
Expected Value =
Save Rate x Value of Extension =
30% x 12 months x $83/month =
$298 or about 30% of ACV
Return on Investment?
2 pp decrease in churn
- Increases revenue by 50%
- Decreases S&M spend by 30%
Brian Stafford
McKinsey
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How to Drive Growth with Customer Success Metrics

  • 1. How to Drive Growth with Customer Success Metrics Aaron Ross Predictable Revenue Jason Lemkin Storm Ventures Tomasz Tunguz Redpoint Ventures Brian Stafford McKinsey
  • 2. Aaron Ross Author, Predictable Revenue • #1 best-seller, called “The Sales Bible Of Silicon Valley” • Created outbound sales machine @ Salesforce.com • Helped multiple clients break $100M in revenue • 4 kids + 4 more on the way
  • 3. Lessons From $1B+: What Customer Success Isn„t • It‟s not about customer satisfaction • It‟s not free help • It‟s not an afterthought
  • 4. It‘s A Growth Driver On Par With Sales & Marketing Scalable LeadGen Drives Growth 1. Seeds = Customer Success 2. Nets = Inbound Marketing 3. Spears = Outbound Prospecting
  • 5. Show, Don„t Tell, How You Make Money Example, @ Gild: 1. Renewals 2. Upsells 3. “90 Day Adoption” 4. Product roadmap feedback
  • 6. Jason M. Lemkin Managing Director, Storm Ventures • Managing Director, Storm Ventures -- $650m Investor in SaaS/Enterprise • SaaStr – Largest Web Community of SaaS Founders – 600k+ views month • CEO and co-founder, EchoSign/Adobe Job Title, Company
  • 7. Hire Early in Customer Success – It Always Works • One CSM per $2m – But Hired in Advance, Not Arrears • Will more reps work? Maybe • Will more marketing spend work? Maybe • Will making your customers successful work? Definitely. Always.
  • 8. Secord Order Revenue – The Key to Long Term Success • Customer Success is the Most Accretive Thing You Can Do – In the Medium Term • All great companies‟ customers come from one main source – Word-of-Mouth • This is accelerated, and much more measurable, in reccuring revenue models
  • 9. Customer Success is 5x More Important than Sales • Sales is only there at the very start of the relationship. • CEOs and Founders – Get on a Plane and Visit your Customers, Not Just Your Prospects
  • 10. I Never Lost a Customer I Visited. 5 Visits + 2 Badges Rule. • Unhappy customers don‟t (always) churn. • Unvisited customers that never complain -- do churn. Need attitudinal, not just behavioral, loyalty. • Required: 5 on-sites / month, period. 2 badges from your customers.
  • 11. If You Can„t Measure It, It Doesn„t Exist • Whole point of Customer Success = Increasing Net Negative Churn • Need tools, processes to measure and improve here • Can‟t be a soft science. Cannot be. No best efforts.
  • 12. Tomasz Tunguz Partner, Redpoint Ventures • I write about SaaS startups at tomtunguz.com • Redpoint works with many as-a-Service companies including Stripe, Twilio, Zendesk, Looker, Infer, Tidemark, and Expensify • Former PM at Google; statistics nut
  • 13. Why CS Is Critical Happy customers, better product Grow faster Decrease capital needs
  • 14. Hypothetical SaaS Company $50k in MRR 50 customers at $1k ARR each $1250 in CAC, Sales Efficiency of 0.8 Growing 15% m/m
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  • 20. How Much to Spend on CS? Expected Value = Save Rate x Value of Extension = 30% x 12 months x $83/month = $298 or about 30% of ACV
  • 21. Return on Investment? 2 pp decrease in churn - Increases revenue by 50% - Decreases S&M spend by 30%
  • 23. Q & A

Editor's Notes

  1. Growing the business faster means increasing the value of the business: fund raising, recruitingCapital efficiency means raising less capital to get further. Not just about being a Prius more like MacLaren