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JULY 2002 Pollution Engineering 1
EMS AUDITOR
COURSESAND
OTHER DELIGHTS:
A BUYERS MARKET
Thinking we had reached a writers block for
ideas to report on from the Front Lines,
some recent experiences lend themselves
well as a case study for the many choices
available to individuals seeking additional
training in ISO 14001 and ISO 9001 mat-
ters. Our focus this month is to provide
our readers with a wide a selection as pos-
sible to help them make the right choice
for their needs and (possibly) limited
budgets.
As far as we know, the only EMS and
QMS courses that are accredited by ANSI-
RAB are the Lead Auditor courses provid-
ed by RAB-accredited course providers
that can be found on the RAB Web site
(www.rabnet.com). At last count, there are
over 20 such course providers with more
in cue as this field matures. Our focus in
this article is not to review these providers,
but to provide readers with an informa-
tional database of additional course
providers, some of which may be in you
own backyards.
These additional groups, from non-
profits such as ASQ and various local
quality groups, to local community col-
leges and universities usually provide
courses to supplement the lead auditor
training courses provided by the RAB-
accredited folks. What can you receive,
and are these additional venues a value,
you may ask? A quick review of several of
these providers shows that implementa-
tion and internal auditing courses are list-
ed, sometimes at reduced costs to mem-
bers. Other groups have initiated various
collaboratives to provide ISO 14001 and
ISO 9001 implementation assistance to a
select group of participants at a somewhat
reduced cost, such as is the case with sev-
eral emerging programs in Massachusetts.
The key to each of these alternative service
providers is whether their times, dates and
cost per participant are of value to the per-
son or persons from an organization who
had a need to take a particular course or
workshop. That is where you have to do
your homework and decide what option is
best for you.
The choices: Heinz 57 varieties
Let’s look at some considerations a poten-
tial course participant may need to evalu-
ate as they decide “einy-meanie-minie-
moe” in choosing their course provider. In
some organizations that are looking to put
in place a comprehensive EMS program
with a solid auditor bench, their decision-
makers may decide to invest sizable budg-
et amounts within a specified time hori-
zon to get this program moving. For such
folks, they may decide to go with an RAB-
accredited course provider for the whole
package: implementation, internal auditor
and lead auditor, especially if they are
comfortable with the firm and/or instruc-
tor chosen to provide the training. They
may also see value in having their staff
venture off-site to a public offering to
hone their skills. The added benefit to an
off-site public offering is the possibility of
learning through the interaction of other
course participants. You will get no argu-
ment from me on that point. There is also
some value in having such courses offered
in chunks of time to minimize staff dis-
ruption.
If, however, organizations may be
strapped financially somewhat, or are not
being forced to flash-track their EMS pro-
gram, they may want to consider taking
one type of course, such as the lead audi-
tor course, from the RAB-accredited folks,
assimilate that knowledge, and perhaps
look at the alternatives for a slower paced
opportunity to hone up on EMS skills,
such as implementing their EMS program
or internal auditing, which does not need
to be offered through a RAB-accredited
course provider. With these alternate serv-
ice providers, courses or workshops could
be offered over 2, 3 or more days, either
on-site or in a public setting, such as a
sponsor company or a university, or be
offered as an accredited continuing ed
course one night a week for 8 to 10 week
or so. Of course, each purveyor would
have a different time schedule and offering
format, and the prospective course partic-
ipant would have to determine whether
such dates, locations and times would suit
their needs. One group that offers such
courses is ASQ, depending upon the focus
of their regional chapters. One such chap-
ter with which we are familiar is
www.asqmv.org. Their member company
employees have the opportunity to sign up
ByGabrieleCrognale,P.E.
THEFRONTLINE
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2 Pollution Engineering JULY 2002
for these courses at local sponsor compa-
nies at a reduced rate, although their
courses are very reasonably priced.
Another venue is the college and uni-
versity system that includes private and
community colleges, as well as various
collaboratives. Some of the colleges with
which we are familiar that offer these serv-
ices include: www.tri-c.cc.oh.us, and
www.merrimack.edu. Again, where such
offerings can provide value are whether
the offering times, locations and dates are
convenient, and whether the mix of par-
ticipants are varied to provide the nucleus
of value-added class interaction. One key
item that should be inherent in any course
offering choice is that it is the instructor,
or in many cases, the facilitator, who
makes or breaks the class or workshop
offering. If the instructor teaching the
class materials is not aptly qualified with
real-world experience to teach the class,
you will not receive value for the course(s)
you take, regardless of the tuition paid. It
does pay to do your homework and try to
review their work if possible.
One company’s perspective: the
phantom interviewee
I posed the question of what a company
looks for in choosing an ISO course
provider to a Quality Director of a large
manufacturing company. This individual
was frank in his offering of anecdotal
information, but did not want to be iden-
tified. In choosing a course provider, and
he has his favorite which we will describe,
he looks for several key considerations.
These include:
1. Has a well-established network through
his ISO registrar contacts. He also relies
on the opinions of his colleagues in
industry who have taken various ISO
courses from various listed course
providers.
2. He likes to attend and send his work
colleagues to training sessions in those
geographic areas where key customers
and suppliers are located, a conscious
business strategy on his part.
3. In another business consideration, he
looks to see where the pressure point is,
and who among his customers are man-
dating such courses. He then solicits
their input for what is out there in the
way of course value.
4. If his supervisor or other management
rep is specifying that he or others will
take courses, he will network locally to
determine what choices he has avail-
able, and begin the interview process.
5. I asked him whether he used the
Internet to conduct this research, and
he replied that the Internet is a good
business tool.
6. He also feels that there is value in taking
an internal on-site course, just as there
is in taking a public course, it’s all a
matter of preference at the time.
As we have found in our discussion
with this gentleman and in our own expe-
T H E F R O N T L I N E
1. How many employees will you need to pro-
vide EMS training to? What is your time
frame and how much can you do yourselves
on site? What does your training budget
look like in 2002 and beyond?
2. Check your referrals: what did other folks in
your network have to say about a particular
course or course provider? Were they satis-
fied, or did they feel they did not get their
money’s worth? Would they use the provider
or instructor again? Can they share some
noteworthy anecdotes about their training
experiences?
3. You’ve done your homework and narrowed
down your choices. There are still points to
consider. Do you sign up for one of the
course providers listed on the RAB Web site,
or do you opt for on-site training? If you
choose the latter, who will provide this
training? A course provider, a non-profit, or
boutique training firm? In any of these situ-
ations, the bottom line is that you need to
research that the instructor will be, and
what value you will receive in any of the
choices before you. Let’s evaluate this point
further.
4. You sign up for an RAB-listed course
provider. Is the training local, or do you
have to include travel, meals and lodging
expenses? Who’s the instructor, and what
do they bring to the table? Who else has
signed up? Is there potential networking
value in attending? What is the course
venue? Is it being held at a convenient
hotel with ample training space, or is it
being offered at the trainer’s office. If so,
will you be comfortable with that arrange-
ment? What backup plan do you have
should the course be canceled?
5. You sign up for an on-site course. Can you
bring on additional participants, and how
much will it cost? Again, you need to evalu-
ate the instructor. What are their creden-
tials, and what value do they bring?
6. You sign up for a public offering with a non-
profit organization. Again, you need to eval-
uate the instructor. Many of these organiza-
tions list the instructor’s biography on their
Web site, so this research may be a little
easier. But, that’s not to say that you should
stop there you’re your research. Who else
has signed up, and like the previous public
offering example, is there potential network-
ing value in attending? Is the offering over
a period of days, or 2 or more hours a week
for 8 to 10 weeks? This option might be
attractive to companies with limited budgets
who would like to partake in advanced ISO
training. Many of these non-profits offer ISO
14001 implementation and internal auditing
courses at very reasonable rates.
7. What requirements are you seeking to fulfill?
Are you seeking ISO 14001 auditor registra-
tion? If so, your only choice to date is to
take an approved RAB-accredited EMS Lead
Auditor course.
8. If, however, you are not seeking RAB cre-
dentials, you are under no obligation to take
courses from these providers, although you
may choose to do so. In these situations,
you can choose to take whatever courses
you feel are most appropriate for you in
whatever venue makes most sense and can
be justified by your Purchasing Manager.
Quick little primer to help you make an
informed choice for which EMS course(s) to
take and by whom:
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JULY 2002 Pollution Engineering 3
rience from being on both sides of the
training fence over the years, preparation
and diligence are two of the main ingredi-
ents to guarantee a successful training
experience. PE
Gabriele Crognale, P.E., the founder of
MCG & Associates, is affiliated with
Merrimack College and Weston &
Sampson. He has over 27 years in the envi-
ronmental field, and specializes in ISO
14001 implementation and related training
services. He is on the Advisory Panel for
Maintenance Management, and is the
Editor of Environmental Management
Strategies: The 21st Century Perspective,
published by Prentice-Hall (1999). He may
be reached at 978-764-4839, 978-837-5172,
or iso14k@ureach.com.
T H E F R O N T L I N E
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  • 1. JULY 2002 Pollution Engineering 1 EMS AUDITOR COURSESAND OTHER DELIGHTS: A BUYERS MARKET Thinking we had reached a writers block for ideas to report on from the Front Lines, some recent experiences lend themselves well as a case study for the many choices available to individuals seeking additional training in ISO 14001 and ISO 9001 mat- ters. Our focus this month is to provide our readers with a wide a selection as pos- sible to help them make the right choice for their needs and (possibly) limited budgets. As far as we know, the only EMS and QMS courses that are accredited by ANSI- RAB are the Lead Auditor courses provid- ed by RAB-accredited course providers that can be found on the RAB Web site (www.rabnet.com). At last count, there are over 20 such course providers with more in cue as this field matures. Our focus in this article is not to review these providers, but to provide readers with an informa- tional database of additional course providers, some of which may be in you own backyards. These additional groups, from non- profits such as ASQ and various local quality groups, to local community col- leges and universities usually provide courses to supplement the lead auditor training courses provided by the RAB- accredited folks. What can you receive, and are these additional venues a value, you may ask? A quick review of several of these providers shows that implementa- tion and internal auditing courses are list- ed, sometimes at reduced costs to mem- bers. Other groups have initiated various collaboratives to provide ISO 14001 and ISO 9001 implementation assistance to a select group of participants at a somewhat reduced cost, such as is the case with sev- eral emerging programs in Massachusetts. The key to each of these alternative service providers is whether their times, dates and cost per participant are of value to the per- son or persons from an organization who had a need to take a particular course or workshop. That is where you have to do your homework and decide what option is best for you. The choices: Heinz 57 varieties Let’s look at some considerations a poten- tial course participant may need to evalu- ate as they decide “einy-meanie-minie- moe” in choosing their course provider. In some organizations that are looking to put in place a comprehensive EMS program with a solid auditor bench, their decision- makers may decide to invest sizable budg- et amounts within a specified time hori- zon to get this program moving. For such folks, they may decide to go with an RAB- accredited course provider for the whole package: implementation, internal auditor and lead auditor, especially if they are comfortable with the firm and/or instruc- tor chosen to provide the training. They may also see value in having their staff venture off-site to a public offering to hone their skills. The added benefit to an off-site public offering is the possibility of learning through the interaction of other course participants. You will get no argu- ment from me on that point. There is also some value in having such courses offered in chunks of time to minimize staff dis- ruption. If, however, organizations may be strapped financially somewhat, or are not being forced to flash-track their EMS pro- gram, they may want to consider taking one type of course, such as the lead audi- tor course, from the RAB-accredited folks, assimilate that knowledge, and perhaps look at the alternatives for a slower paced opportunity to hone up on EMS skills, such as implementing their EMS program or internal auditing, which does not need to be offered through a RAB-accredited course provider. With these alternate serv- ice providers, courses or workshops could be offered over 2, 3 or more days, either on-site or in a public setting, such as a sponsor company or a university, or be offered as an accredited continuing ed course one night a week for 8 to 10 week or so. Of course, each purveyor would have a different time schedule and offering format, and the prospective course partic- ipant would have to determine whether such dates, locations and times would suit their needs. One group that offers such courses is ASQ, depending upon the focus of their regional chapters. One such chap- ter with which we are familiar is www.asqmv.org. Their member company employees have the opportunity to sign up ByGabrieleCrognale,P.E. THEFRONTLINE 000 front line.qxd 5/22/02 1:16 PM Page 1
  • 2. 2 Pollution Engineering JULY 2002 for these courses at local sponsor compa- nies at a reduced rate, although their courses are very reasonably priced. Another venue is the college and uni- versity system that includes private and community colleges, as well as various collaboratives. Some of the colleges with which we are familiar that offer these serv- ices include: www.tri-c.cc.oh.us, and www.merrimack.edu. Again, where such offerings can provide value are whether the offering times, locations and dates are convenient, and whether the mix of par- ticipants are varied to provide the nucleus of value-added class interaction. One key item that should be inherent in any course offering choice is that it is the instructor, or in many cases, the facilitator, who makes or breaks the class or workshop offering. If the instructor teaching the class materials is not aptly qualified with real-world experience to teach the class, you will not receive value for the course(s) you take, regardless of the tuition paid. It does pay to do your homework and try to review their work if possible. One company’s perspective: the phantom interviewee I posed the question of what a company looks for in choosing an ISO course provider to a Quality Director of a large manufacturing company. This individual was frank in his offering of anecdotal information, but did not want to be iden- tified. In choosing a course provider, and he has his favorite which we will describe, he looks for several key considerations. These include: 1. Has a well-established network through his ISO registrar contacts. He also relies on the opinions of his colleagues in industry who have taken various ISO courses from various listed course providers. 2. He likes to attend and send his work colleagues to training sessions in those geographic areas where key customers and suppliers are located, a conscious business strategy on his part. 3. In another business consideration, he looks to see where the pressure point is, and who among his customers are man- dating such courses. He then solicits their input for what is out there in the way of course value. 4. If his supervisor or other management rep is specifying that he or others will take courses, he will network locally to determine what choices he has avail- able, and begin the interview process. 5. I asked him whether he used the Internet to conduct this research, and he replied that the Internet is a good business tool. 6. He also feels that there is value in taking an internal on-site course, just as there is in taking a public course, it’s all a matter of preference at the time. As we have found in our discussion with this gentleman and in our own expe- T H E F R O N T L I N E 1. How many employees will you need to pro- vide EMS training to? What is your time frame and how much can you do yourselves on site? What does your training budget look like in 2002 and beyond? 2. Check your referrals: what did other folks in your network have to say about a particular course or course provider? Were they satis- fied, or did they feel they did not get their money’s worth? Would they use the provider or instructor again? Can they share some noteworthy anecdotes about their training experiences? 3. You’ve done your homework and narrowed down your choices. There are still points to consider. Do you sign up for one of the course providers listed on the RAB Web site, or do you opt for on-site training? If you choose the latter, who will provide this training? A course provider, a non-profit, or boutique training firm? In any of these situ- ations, the bottom line is that you need to research that the instructor will be, and what value you will receive in any of the choices before you. Let’s evaluate this point further. 4. You sign up for an RAB-listed course provider. Is the training local, or do you have to include travel, meals and lodging expenses? Who’s the instructor, and what do they bring to the table? Who else has signed up? Is there potential networking value in attending? What is the course venue? Is it being held at a convenient hotel with ample training space, or is it being offered at the trainer’s office. If so, will you be comfortable with that arrange- ment? What backup plan do you have should the course be canceled? 5. You sign up for an on-site course. Can you bring on additional participants, and how much will it cost? Again, you need to evalu- ate the instructor. What are their creden- tials, and what value do they bring? 6. You sign up for a public offering with a non- profit organization. Again, you need to eval- uate the instructor. Many of these organiza- tions list the instructor’s biography on their Web site, so this research may be a little easier. But, that’s not to say that you should stop there you’re your research. Who else has signed up, and like the previous public offering example, is there potential network- ing value in attending? Is the offering over a period of days, or 2 or more hours a week for 8 to 10 weeks? This option might be attractive to companies with limited budgets who would like to partake in advanced ISO training. Many of these non-profits offer ISO 14001 implementation and internal auditing courses at very reasonable rates. 7. What requirements are you seeking to fulfill? Are you seeking ISO 14001 auditor registra- tion? If so, your only choice to date is to take an approved RAB-accredited EMS Lead Auditor course. 8. If, however, you are not seeking RAB cre- dentials, you are under no obligation to take courses from these providers, although you may choose to do so. In these situations, you can choose to take whatever courses you feel are most appropriate for you in whatever venue makes most sense and can be justified by your Purchasing Manager. Quick little primer to help you make an informed choice for which EMS course(s) to take and by whom: 000 front line.qxd 5/22/02 1:16 PM Page 2
  • 3. JULY 2002 Pollution Engineering 3 rience from being on both sides of the training fence over the years, preparation and diligence are two of the main ingredi- ents to guarantee a successful training experience. PE Gabriele Crognale, P.E., the founder of MCG & Associates, is affiliated with Merrimack College and Weston & Sampson. He has over 27 years in the envi- ronmental field, and specializes in ISO 14001 implementation and related training services. He is on the Advisory Panel for Maintenance Management, and is the Editor of Environmental Management Strategies: The 21st Century Perspective, published by Prentice-Hall (1999). He may be reached at 978-764-4839, 978-837-5172, or iso14k@ureach.com. T H E F R O N T L I N E 000 front line.qxd 5/22/02 1:16 PM Page 3