Lessons Learned About The Tension Between Product Manager And Engineering While Talking About The “What”

Francesco Corti
Francesco CortiProduct Manager at Docker, Florence (Italy)
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Lessons Learned About The Tension
Between Product Manager And Engineering
While Talking About The “What”
Francesco Corti
Principal Product Manager @ Docker Inc.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/fcorti/
FrkCorti
#BETTERWAYS2023
25+ years of experience in IT, Developer at heart,
Open Source Enthusiast, Public Speaker & Author
Product & Engineering
As it should be…
#BETTERWAYS2023
As it is
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#BETTERWAYS2023
Engineering
Tech Leaders and FE/BE Engineers
Quality Assurance
…
Product Manager
Designers
Researchers
…
Why we are building the product / feature
Whatwe have to do to provide value
How we are building the product / feature
Whenwe can ship it
#BETTERWAYS2023
Product Manager
Designers
Researchers
…
Why we are building the product / feature
Whatwe have to do to provide value
#BETTERWAYS2023
Engineering
Tech Leaders and FE/BE Engineers
Quality Assurance
…
How we are building the product / feature
Whenwe can ship it
Is it so
ideal
and
trustful?
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WHY WHAT HOW WHEN
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Is it a bad thing?
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If toxic for the team or someone
I don’t want to use Figma
(or any other tool)
My opinion is more than important
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It should be an healthy challenge
for the best of the product/feature
It allows the team to focus on the right
things
It forces to provide evidence to escape
from the OPINIONS TRAP
It is where business value and feasibility /
time to market are tested
WHY WHAT HOW WHEN
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When does the friction happen?
How to properly manage it?
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How many WHAT?
Strategic WHAT
High Level (theme)
Business Value
Tactical WHAT
Epic Level
Feature / User Experience
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How many WHAT?
Strategic WHAT
High Level (theme)
Business Value
Can create concerns
● Often less of interest for engineering
● Not always detailed enough to be
ready to be developed
● Helps the creation of alignment
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How many WHAT?
● Engineers can already have a
solution in mind not always reflected
● Engineers can have a better solution
Tactical WHAT
Epic Level
Feature / User Experience
Can creates tension
#BETTERWAYS2023
How many WHAT?
Tactical WHAT
Epic Level
Feature / User Experience
Can create tension
Strategic WHAT
High Level (theme)
Business Value
Can create concerns
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What the tension looks like
I don’t think it is true!
We should do it differently!
One customer told me that they want something else
It will be easier and faster to develop something else
Talking about tooling or technology, not values
…
What to do then?
Mediation
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Mediation
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Someone with leadership can decide
What’s the
risk?
Miss the market fit
Miss the feasibility
Miss the time to market
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Who is right or who is wrong?
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Who is right or who is wrong?
Product vs Engineering
Collaboration
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No master or boss
Open to listen
Respect of roles
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How to funnel the energy?
Provide clarity on roles and responsibilities
Work in parallel work streams
Properly communicate
Bring the people INTO the conversation
Three in a box
Documentation
Evangelize in advance
INCLUSION
Inclusion
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Openness
Listening
Flexibility
Mediation
The final goal is not to be
right but to ship the right
product/feature
Product
Manager
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WHY, HOW and WHEN rarely generate frictions
The WHAT is where different roles discuss together
Creating a good place for collaboration is crucial
The Product Manager is responsible for setting the
team for success
#BETTERWAYS2023
Lessons Learned About The
Tension Between Product
Manager And Engineering
While Talking About The “What”
Francesco Corti
Principal PM @ Docker Inc.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/fcorti/
FrkCorti
#BETTERWAYS2023
Lessons Learned About The Tension
Between Product Manager And Engineering
While Talking About The “What”
Francesco Corti
Principal Product Manager @ Docker Inc.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/fcorti/
FrkCorti
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Lessons Learned About The Tension Between Product Manager And Engineering While Talking About The “What”