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Epidemiology of patients with poor prognosis
at ICU admission – prevalence, outcomes and
resource use & educating colleagues
Bala Venkatesh
College of Intensive Care Medicine
Professor of Intensive Care (UQ and UNSW)
Wesley and Princess Alexandra Hospitals
George Institute for Global Health
Scope of this presentation
• ICU focussed
• What categories of patients?
• Impact on the patient
• Impact on the caregivers
• Impact on ICU practice
• Economic costs
• Compliance with stated preferences
• Drivers for this change
• Current level of training
• How we as a specialty should take the lead in
education and making the change
Int J Public Health (2013) 58:257–267
Categories of patients
• older age
• diagnosis of cancer
• lower performance status
• subjective prognosis of poor outcome
• length of hospitalization before ICU referral.
Older age
• Ageing population (> 65 has increased from
9% in 1961 to 13% in 2009 and predicted to
reach 20% in 2031)
• Therapeutic and technical advances have
improved and extended the lives of many
• A now older generation is living with more
complex disease
Impact of these demographic changes
on ICU practice
• A greater proportion of older people (age > 65
are now being admitted to intensive care.
• The proportion of patients aged >80 admitted
to ICU in Australia is rapidly increasing at a
rate of 5.6% per year
• In the US, 1 in 5 deaths use ICU services
Crit Care Med 2004 Vol. 32, No. 3
Consequences of these changes
• Place of death
• Quality of death
• Impact on carers and medical professionals
• Health care costs
Is it a quality finish?
Crit Care Med 2015; 43:1352–1360
Anesthesiology 2017; 126:882-9
In patients with cancer…
Quality of death
Impact on carers and medical
professionals
Crit Care Med 2004 Vol. 32, No. 3
Health care costs
Crit Care Med 2015; 43:1352–1360
$700,000
Compliance with EOL preferences
Modifying the MEPA
Challenges – EOL planning
• Training
• Communication
• Sub-specialisation
• Lack of an overall perspective of treatment
goals.
• Community expectations
• Medical Advances
• Patient related
• Physician related
Current deficits – EOL planning
MJA • Volume 194 Number 5 • 7 March 2011
Inadequately
prepared or
trained to hold
these
conversations
At medical
student stage
During post
graduate
training….
Additonal drivers
• Loss of generalist physicians
• Sub-specialisation
• Responsibility frequently falls to the intensivist
How we manage end-of-life care is
everyone’s responsibility
All physicians have a responsibility to
effectively, collaboratively and respectfully
discuss choices regarding treatment
escalation and de-escalation at the end-of-
life with both patients and their families.
All physicians have a responsibility to
document the summary and outcome of
end of life discussions with patients and/or
their families
The debate on EOL also needs to be
balanced
Medical Advances
• ECMO
• ECMO CPR
• Surgical success in the elderly
• TAVR
• RRT
Evidence for the positive role of ICU in
EOL
Increasing public expectations
Miracle survivals reported in TV
shows, internet…..
Consultation with the community
Common thread – effective and
timely communication, education of
clinicians, raising awareness with the
community
Improved skills in conducting crucial
conversations
a) reduce unnecessary admission to ICU
b) reduce undesired treatment and poor deaths
c) alleviate distress for family and medical
professionals
d) result in very substantial cost savings
Why intensivists should lead this
• Conversations about prognosis and outcome
Withdrawal and withholding life support –
both within and outside of ICU
• Organ donation conversations
• Involved in EOL conversations even outside of
ICU
Take home message(s)
• EOL management is a challenging task.
• If poorly done, it can lead to poor quality of
death for patients and can have a significant
impact on families and caregivers
• Increased health care costs
• All physicians have a responsibility to deliver
appropriate EOL care plans for their patients
• However education/communication skills are
lacking across the breadth of the profession.
• Intensivists lead the delivery of education on EOL
for all specialities
• improve the communication skills of doctors in
training and fully trained specialists
• Mandatory for all trainees across all specialties
to undergo formal training in EOL
• Mandatory for CPD
• Module for medical students
• Changing community expectations
Take home message(s)
Being mortal is about the struggle to cope
with the constraints of our biology, with the
limits set by genes and cells and flesh and
bone. Medical science has given us
remarkable power to push against these
limits, and the potential value of this power
was a central reason I became a doctor. But
again and again, I have seen the damage
we in medicine do when we fail to
acknowledge that such power is finite and
always will be. We’ve been wrong about
what our job is in medicine. We think our job
is to ensure health and survival. But really it
is larger than that. It is to enable well-being.
And well-being is about the reasons one
wishes to be alive. Those reasons matter not
just at the end of life, or when debility

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Epidemiology of patients with poor prognosis at ICU admission – prevalence, outcomes and resource use.

  • 1. Epidemiology of patients with poor prognosis at ICU admission – prevalence, outcomes and resource use & educating colleagues Bala Venkatesh College of Intensive Care Medicine Professor of Intensive Care (UQ and UNSW) Wesley and Princess Alexandra Hospitals George Institute for Global Health
  • 2. Scope of this presentation • ICU focussed • What categories of patients? • Impact on the patient • Impact on the caregivers • Impact on ICU practice • Economic costs • Compliance with stated preferences • Drivers for this change • Current level of training • How we as a specialty should take the lead in education and making the change
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  • 6. Int J Public Health (2013) 58:257–267
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  • 9. Categories of patients • older age • diagnosis of cancer • lower performance status • subjective prognosis of poor outcome • length of hospitalization before ICU referral.
  • 10. Older age • Ageing population (> 65 has increased from 9% in 1961 to 13% in 2009 and predicted to reach 20% in 2031) • Therapeutic and technical advances have improved and extended the lives of many • A now older generation is living with more complex disease
  • 11. Impact of these demographic changes on ICU practice • A greater proportion of older people (age > 65 are now being admitted to intensive care. • The proportion of patients aged >80 admitted to ICU in Australia is rapidly increasing at a rate of 5.6% per year • In the US, 1 in 5 deaths use ICU services
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  • 13. Crit Care Med 2004 Vol. 32, No. 3
  • 14. Consequences of these changes • Place of death • Quality of death • Impact on carers and medical professionals • Health care costs
  • 15. Is it a quality finish?
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  • 17. Crit Care Med 2015; 43:1352–1360
  • 19. In patients with cancer…
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  • 23. Impact on carers and medical professionals
  • 24. Crit Care Med 2004 Vol. 32, No. 3 Health care costs
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  • 28. Crit Care Med 2015; 43:1352–1360
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  • 32. Compliance with EOL preferences
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  • 35. Challenges – EOL planning • Training • Communication • Sub-specialisation • Lack of an overall perspective of treatment goals. • Community expectations • Medical Advances
  • 36. • Patient related • Physician related Current deficits – EOL planning
  • 37. MJA • Volume 194 Number 5 • 7 March 2011
  • 38. Inadequately prepared or trained to hold these conversations
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  • 46. Additonal drivers • Loss of generalist physicians • Sub-specialisation • Responsibility frequently falls to the intensivist How we manage end-of-life care is everyone’s responsibility
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  • 48. All physicians have a responsibility to effectively, collaboratively and respectfully discuss choices regarding treatment escalation and de-escalation at the end-of- life with both patients and their families. All physicians have a responsibility to document the summary and outcome of end of life discussions with patients and/or their families
  • 49. The debate on EOL also needs to be balanced
  • 50. Medical Advances • ECMO • ECMO CPR • Surgical success in the elderly • TAVR • RRT
  • 51. Evidence for the positive role of ICU in EOL
  • 53. Miracle survivals reported in TV shows, internet…..
  • 55. Common thread – effective and timely communication, education of clinicians, raising awareness with the community
  • 56. Improved skills in conducting crucial conversations a) reduce unnecessary admission to ICU b) reduce undesired treatment and poor deaths c) alleviate distress for family and medical professionals d) result in very substantial cost savings
  • 57. Why intensivists should lead this • Conversations about prognosis and outcome Withdrawal and withholding life support – both within and outside of ICU • Organ donation conversations • Involved in EOL conversations even outside of ICU
  • 58. Take home message(s) • EOL management is a challenging task. • If poorly done, it can lead to poor quality of death for patients and can have a significant impact on families and caregivers • Increased health care costs • All physicians have a responsibility to deliver appropriate EOL care plans for their patients • However education/communication skills are lacking across the breadth of the profession.
  • 59. • Intensivists lead the delivery of education on EOL for all specialities • improve the communication skills of doctors in training and fully trained specialists • Mandatory for all trainees across all specialties to undergo formal training in EOL • Mandatory for CPD • Module for medical students • Changing community expectations Take home message(s)
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  • 62. Being mortal is about the struggle to cope with the constraints of our biology, with the limits set by genes and cells and flesh and bone. Medical science has given us remarkable power to push against these limits, and the potential value of this power was a central reason I became a doctor. But again and again, I have seen the damage we in medicine do when we fail to acknowledge that such power is finite and always will be. We’ve been wrong about what our job is in medicine. We think our job is to ensure health and survival. But really it is larger than that. It is to enable well-being. And well-being is about the reasons one wishes to be alive. Those reasons matter not just at the end of life, or when debility