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  • + r_fujimoto r_fujimoto 3 years ago
    It won’t scale

    a hesitance against hardcoding semantics, manual work
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I build a website that tries to make video more findable over the past year, and I got the chance to try some experiments with tagging systems. For this talk, I also interviewed people from Flickr, Delicious, … This talk is all about how we can make tagging more useful by adding *some* structure.

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  1. Tags and facets, tags and languages. Peter Van Dijck http://petervandijck.net
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  3. Challenge: Findability of long tail video
    • An unsolved problem.
    • Video eats attention.
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  6. A few principles:
    • Always be easy . Entering a tag should stay simple.
    • The work of the few impacts many. Wikipedia is edited mostly by a small group of people.
    • Babysteps : A little semantics goes a long way. Leverage it.
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  10. We plan to let users select facets here.
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  12. Refine by: People: Ilse (12) Johnny (3) Peter (3) Jay Dedman (4) Event: Vloggercon (12) Gates (8) Language: English (230) Spanish (8)
  13. What we didn’t do
    • There were a lot of options and possibilities to add structure and semantics.
    • We kept it simple: a tag has only 1 facet – which is the same for all users.
    • Users can’t select facets just yet.
  14. What we did:
    • Add minimal structure : tag has a parent-id.
    • Add semantics : Place, Language, Event, People, Topic.
      • You can’t let users create facets and keep their facet-ness.
  15. (Who is cindy sheenan?) Movies with: Cindy and Ilse (12) Cindy and Johnny (3) Cindy and Peter (3) Cindy and Jay Dedman (4) Event: Vloggercon (12)
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  17. Even more leverage …
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  21. 3 levels of leveraging semantics
    • The fact that parents are facets means we can use faceted browsing. (Regardless of the content of those facets.)
    • The content of the facets (people, …) lets us customize the UI and provide additional structure around each. (Events on a timeline, pictures of people, …)
    • We can also infer (guess) more information from the semantics and an algorithm of relatedness (“Gates happened in Central Park”).
  22. All this from the simplest of structures and a sprinkling of semantics Parent Tag “ People” “Places” “Events”
  23. Some trickyness follows…
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  26. Semantic crashes
    • Conclusion: careful with duplicate semantics in the system.
  27. Localizing the folksonomy
    • Should we even translate folksonomies?
    • Tags seem to work better when they’re in limited communities, “tag namespaces”.
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  29. The plan for Mefeedia:
    • Don’t translate tags.
    • Don’t copy tags – new language = new community. Possible complaints:
      • “ My tags don’t show up in the Spanish version”.
    • I could perhaps use names (“People”) in multiple languages (that have Latin charsets). => Semantics might help with localization.
  30. Other approaches …
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  33. For geography: <a href=&quot;http://www.edgeio.com/tag/zip:94301&quot; rel=&quot;tag&quot;>94301</a> <a href=&quot;http://www.edgeio.com/tag/city:Palo%20Alto&quot; rel=&quot;tag&quot;>Palo Alto</a> <a href=&quot;http://www.edgeio.com/tag/country:USA&quot; rel=&quot;tag&quot;>USA</a>
  34. What people are doing
    • Providing “generic” data structures for users (Del.icio.us).
    • Semantics through algorithms (Flickr).
    • Define certain tags or structure (taxonomy) through clustering algorithms (Edgeio)
  35. I notice …
    • A hesitance against hardcoding semantics . (“It won’t scale”)
    • A hesitance against manual work (“It won’t scale”)
  36. What I learnt
    • Mix it up. A small amount of semantics, on top of minimal structure, with a little manual work, can work wonders.
  37. References
    • [email_address]
    • http://petervandijck.com
    • http://mefeedia.com
    • http://mefeedia.com/labs-infer/infer.php
    • http://www.everything2.com/
    • http://bailando.sims.berkeley.edu/flamenco-metadata-guide.html

+ Peter Van DijckPeter Van Dijck, 4 years ago

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