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    • COCLICO project - OWF 2010 Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis COCLICO project - OWF 2010 Introduction Foreword About COCLICO Issues Still too much lock-in Freedom vs Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Hosted Who cares ? Forge proliferation Eorts More Friday 01/10/2010 exchanges of code Data portability Linked Open Social Web Interoperability PlanetForge
    • Who's gonna tweet here ? COCLICO project - OWF 2010 Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About COCLICO Issues Still too much lock-in Freedom vs Hosted !planetforge Who cares ? Forge http://identi.ca/group/planetforge proliferation Eorts More exchanges of code Data portability Linked Open Social Web Interoperability PlanetForge
    • Who's tweeting now COCLICO project - OWF 2010 Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis ˆ Institut TELECOM / TELECOM SudParis / Computer Science dept. / PFTCR team Introduction Foreword ˆ 2 perm. sta Christian BAC and myself About COCLICO ˆ 2 PhD students Issues ˆ 2 non permanent research engineers Still too much lock-in Freedom vs ˆ Research on collaborative development Hosted Who cares ? platforms, tools, process, in FLOSS Forge proliferation communities Eorts ˆ Previously worked in service companies (Cap More exchanges of Gemini, IDEALX) code Data ˆ At TELECOM SudParis since 2002 portability Linked Open ˆ R&D on FLOSS, forges, bugtracking, Linked Social Web Data, etc. (CALIBRE, HELIOS, COCLICO) Interoperability PlanetForge ˆ Contributor to Debian, FusionForge, Mantis
    • About COCLICO COCLICO project - OWF 2010 Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About COCLICO Issues Still too much lock-in Freedom vs Hosted Who cares ? Forge http://www.coclico-project.org/ proliferation Eorts More exchanges of The Coclico project aims to reinforce software forges code communities by structuring an open source ecosystem Data portability for which a critical mass exists in France. Linked Open Social Web Interoperability PlanetForge
    • About COCLICO COCLICO project - OWF 2010 Olivier Berger, Funding programme Telecom SudParis Introduction ˆ French collaborative R&D cluster programmes Foreword About ˆ System@tic Paris Region COCLICO Issues Still too much lock-in Freedom vs Hosted Who cares ? ˆ Minalogic Grenoble Region Forge proliferation Eorts More exchanges of code Data portability Linked Open ˆ Public funding (partial) Social Web Interoperability ˆ 2 years (2009-2011) (mid-term now) PlanetForge
    • About COCLICO COCLICO project - OWF 2010 Olivier Berger, Project consortium Telecom SudParis ˆ 9 Participants in Paris and Grenoble mainly Introduction ˆ Industry : Foreword ˆ Bull, About COCLICO ˆ Orange Labs, ˆ Xerox Issues Still too much lock-in Freedom vs Hosted ˆ SMEs : Who cares ? ˆ CELI France, Forge proliferation ˆ Bearstech, Eorts More ˆ Gnurandal (via Xerox), exchanges of ˆ Objet Direct code Data ˆ Academia : portability ˆ INRIA, Linked Open ˆ Institut TELECOM / Telecom Sud Paris Social Web Interoperability ˆ Strong focus on Open Source PlanetForge (should always be natural with public funding ?)
    • COCLICO Project's goals COCLICO project - OWF 2010 Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis ˆ Re-dynamization of the Open Source development Introduction Foreword community around open source historic forge code base About COCLICO (FusionForge and Codendi) Issues Still too much ˆ Denition of an open integration model lock-in Freedom vs Hosted ˆ Data integrity and condentiality Who cares ? Forge proliferation ˆ Exchange of data in real-time between various forges Eorts More ˆ Features for industrial use and quality assurance exchanges of code ˆ traceability of information, Data portability ˆ support of software engineering methodologies, Linked Open ˆ interaction with the user's workstation. ˆ Social Web etc. Interoperability PlanetForge
    • Sharing some ideas with you COCLICO project - OWF 2010 Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About COCLICO Issues Still too much lock-in Freedom vs Forges are great Hosted Who cares ? There are still some issues Forge proliferation Eorts More exchanges of code Data portability Linked Open Social Web Interoperability PlanetForge
    • My main concern COCLICO project - OWF 2010 Olivier Berger, Lock-in Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About COCLICO Issues ˆ There's still too much lock-in Still too much lock-in Freedom vs ˆ Even if not lock-in, too much entropy generated Hosted Who cares ? Forge ˆ Who's caring ? proliferation Eorts ˆ Since 2003 (CoopX initiative) More ... exchanges of code ˆ to 2010 (ongoing work) Data portability Linked Open Social Web Interoperability PlanetForge
    • ESR dixit : COCLICO project - OWF 2010 Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Three Systemic Problems with Introduction Foreword Open-Source Hosting Sites a About COCLICO Issues 1 Hosting Sites Are Data Still too much lock-in Jails Freedom vs Hosted Who cares ? 2 Hosting Sites have Poor Forge proliferation Scriptability Eorts 3 Hosting Sites Have More exchanges of Inadequate Support for code Immigration Data portability Eric (ESR) Raymond Linked Open a. http ://esr.ibiblio.org/ ?p=1282 Social Web Interoperability PlanetForge
    • Jesse Vincent dixit COCLICO project - OWF 2010 Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About If you don't own your tools, you're going to be in a COCLICO whole mess of trouble. Issues Still too much lock-in Freedom vs Hosted Who cares ? Forge Web 2.0 is Sharecropping proliferation a Eorts Conference (5') More exchanges of code a. http ://syncwith.us/talks Data portability Jesse (obra) Vincent Linked Open Social Web Interoperability PlanetForge
    • Moglen dixit COCLICO project - OWF 2010 Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis ˆ Remember yesterday's keynote ? (if you missed it, watch Introduction the video bellow) Foreword About COCLICO ˆ What's the dierence between forge users and social Issues network sites users ? Still too much lock-in Freedom vs Hosted ˆ Cloud "jail" platforms vs. forge servers close to users Who cares ? Forge proliferation Eorts More exchanges of Freedom in the Cloud Conference code (1h) a Data portability a. http ://www.isoc-ny.org/ ?p=1338 Linked Open Social Web Interoperability Eben Moglen PlanetForge
    • Who cares if migration is COCLICO project - OWF 2010 Olivier Berger, Telecom impossible ? SudParis Introduction Foreword About COCLICO Issues Still too much lock-in Freedom vs Hosted Who cares ? Forge proliferation Eorts More exchanges of code Data portability Linked Open Social Web Interoperability PlanetForge
    • Excerpt from the COCLICO project - OWF 2010 Olivier Berger, DocumentFoundation / LibreOce FAQ Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About COCLICO Issues Still too much http ://www.documentfoundation.org/faq/ (sept. 30 2010) lock-in Freedom vs Hosted Who cares ? Q : Why are you building a new web infrastructure ? Forge proliferation A : Since Oracle's takeover of Sun Microsystems, the Eorts Community has been under notice to quit from our More exchanges of previous Collabnet infrastructure. With today's code announcement of a Foundation, we now have an Data portability entity which can own our emerging new infrastructure. Linked Open Social Web Interoperability PlanetForge
    • "Is there a back door" ? COCLICO project - OWF 2010 Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About COCLICO Issues Still too much lock-in Freedom vs Hosted Who cares ? Forge proliferation Eorts More exchanges of code Data portability Linked Open Social Web Interoperability ˆ PlanetForge G. Clooney in Nespresso commercial
    • Forge proliferation COCLICO project - OWF 2010 Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction ˆ Services vs Software Foreword About COCLICO ˆ Services Issues ˆ list your own Still too much lock-in ˆ Software Freedom vs Hosted ˆ list your own Who cares ? Forge proliferation ˆ Choosing a tool or service at project start Eorts More ˆ Later changes ? exchanges of ˆ code Proliferation is great, but repeating errors of the past is not Data portability ˆ Preserve developers freedom Linked Open Social Web Interoperability PlanetForge
    • COCLICO context COCLICO project - OWF 2010 Olivier Berger, Our eorts Telecom SudParis ˆ Not reinventing yet another forge Introduction Foreword Venerable forges with circa 2000 PHP codebase About COCLICO ˆ Interoperability - import/export toolbox Issues Still too much ˆ From legacy forges to modern lock-in Freedom vs Hosted Migration path : towards more REST APIs, more RDF Who cares ? Forge extensible representation formats, more Linked Data, proliferation Eorts supporting new tools (CI, tests, Eclipse, etc.) More exchanges of code ˆ Raising awareness Data ˆ Sharing experience in a community (PlanetForge, see portability bellow) Linked Open Social Web Interoperability ˆ More details : ongoing work, soon on PlanetForge wiki (or PlanetForge ask us on planetforge discussion list)
    • Re-boosting FusionForge COCLICO project - OWF 2010 Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About COCLICO Issues Still too much lock-in Freedom vs Hosted Who cares ? Forge proliferation Eorts More exchanges of code Data portability Linked Open Social Web Source : Roland Mas (RMLL 2010) Interoperability PlanetForge
    • Data portability COCLICO project - OWF 2010 Olivier Berger, Interesting initiative Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About COCLICO Issues Still too much ˆ http ://DataPortability.org/ ? lock-in Freedom vs Hosted ˆ Not sure the right place for Forge data portability Who cares ? Forge discussions proliferation Eorts ˆ Looking forward for learning more from them More ˆ exchanges of code Contacts welcome Data portability Linked Open Social Web Interoperability PlanetForge
    • Forgeplucker COCLICO project - OWF 2010 Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction ˆ ForgePlucker (by ESR) is interesting Foreword About COCLICO ˆ There's code, but still alot of work (and improvements to Issues Still too much make) lock-in Freedom vs Hosted ˆ Our plan : improve forgeplucker to produce an Export / Who cares ? Forge Import toolbox (COCLICO WP2) proliferation Eorts More ˆ Towards a standard forge project dump format (RDF, exchanges of ontologies, . . . ) code Data ˆ Based on same core standards as for dynamic portability interoperability (OSLC) Linked Open Social Web Interoperability PlanetForge
    • Linked Open Data COCLICO project - OWF 2010 Olivier Berger, (Public) Development artifacts part of Web 3.0 ? Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About COCLICO Issues Still too much lock-in Freedom vs Hosted Who cares ? Forge proliferation Eorts More exchanges of code Data portability Linked Open Social Web Interoperability PlanetForge Source : http ://linkeddata.org/
    • Forge artifacts/tools ontology COCLICO project - OWF 2010 Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About COCLICO Issues Still too much lock-in Freedom vs Hosted Who cares ? Forge proliferation Eorts More exchanges of code Data portability Linked Open Social Web Interoperability PlanetForge https://forge.projet-coclico.org/plugins/mediawiki/ wiki/wp2/index.php/Forge_Ontology_Proposal
    • Forge vs. Social Web COCLICO project - OWF 2010 Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis ˆ From SVN to Git Introduction Foreword ˆ From Bugzilla to SD About COCLICO Issues ˆ From Facebook to Diaspora Still too much lock-in Freedom vs ˆ From Cloud to FreedomBox Hosted Who cares ? ˆ From RDBMS to No-SQL Forge proliferation Eorts ˆ Distributed forge with good properties ? More exchanges of ˆ New Savane (SD, Fossil) code ˆ QualiPSo, Diaspora (Moglen) et al. Data portability ˆ to "No-forges" ? Linked Open Social Web Linked Open Social Web of Data 3.0 + . . . What else ? Interoperability PlanetForge
    • Interoperability techniques COCLICO project - OWF 2010 Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis ˆ OSLC proposed standard Introduction Foreword ˆ Web technology : REST, RDF, AJAX, About COCLICO ˆ Open community, Open standard Issues ˆ OSLC-CM (Change Management) FLOSS implementations Still too much lock-in developped in Helios and COCLICO Freedom vs ˆ Mantis bugtracker Hosted Who cares ? Forge ˆ FusionForge trackers (soon Codendi too) proliferation Eorts ˆ Many more domains than trackers More exchanges of ˆ WebID, aka FOAF+SSL code Data ˆ OAuth portability Linked Open ˆ Building grounds for forge interop standard to be Social Web elaborated at PlanetForge community Interoperability PlanetForge
    • PlanetForge community COCLICO project - OWF 2010 Olivier Berger, Telecom ˆ News agregator (planet) SudParis http://planet.planetforge.org/ Introduction Foreword ˆ Microblogging (!planetforge) About COCLICO Issues http://identi.ca/group/planetforge Still too much ˆ Mailing-list lock-in Freedom vs Hosted Who cares ? mailto:discussions@planetforge.org Forge proliferation ˆ Wiki Eorts More http://wiki.planetforge.org/ exchanges of code ˆ Events Data portability ˆ OWF, RMLL/LSM, . . . Linked Open ˆ Share ideas, experience, collaborate Social Web Interoperability ˆ Interoperability standardization PlanetForge Join us !
    • Copyright & License COCLICO project - OWF 2010 Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About COCLICO Issues Still too much ˆ This presentation is under CC-by-SA license lock-in Freedom vs Hosted ˆ Copyright (c) 2010 Olivier Berger Who cares ? Forge proliferation Eorts ˆ Made with org-mode under emacs (org + beamer) More exchanges of code Data portability Linked Open Social Web Interoperability PlanetForge
    • Q&A COCLICO project - OWF 2010 Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About Thank you COCLICO Issues Questions ? Still too much lock-in Freedom vs Hosted Who cares ? Forge More proliferation Eorts @oberger : http://identi.ca/oberger/ More email : mailto:olivier.berger@it-sudparis.eu exchanges of code blog : Data http://www-public.it-sudparis.eu/~berger_o/weblog/ portability Linked Open Social Web Interoperability PlanetForge