Wikipedia sources: On the books and on the ground

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Slidedeck from a presentation at the Wikimedia Foundation on the 9th of April, 2012 about how Wikipedians managed and verified sources and citations in the rapidly evolving 2011 Egyptian Revolution Wikipedia article for the Ushahidi 'Understanding Sources' project. Support for this work was provided by Hivos and the OSI.

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Wikipedia sources: On the books and on the ground

  1. 1. WP SOURCES On the books and on the ground Heather Ford Cartoon by Carlos Latuff in the public domain https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wake_up_Egypt.png; Screenshot from Al Jazeera English Live TV http://www.aljazeera.com/watch_now/;ʼFile:Police in civilian cloth beating a protester in Cairo 1.pngʼ from Al Jazeera CC BY 3.0Tuesday, May 1, 2012
  2. 2. 1. the project 2. sources on the books 3. sources on the ground 4. some conclusions 5. design recommendationsTuesday, May 1, 2012
  3. 3. <the project>Tuesday, May 1, 2012
  4. 4. Understanding sources/WikiSweeper 2011 2012 Sept Oct Nov Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug ethnographic research | user testing development of SwiftRiver by: in collaboration with: funded by:Tuesday, May 1, 2012
  5. 5. problems: 1. collaboratively track news sources 2. find reliable sources in unfamiliar media environments 3. confusion around the reliability of social media sourcesTuesday, May 1, 2012
  6. 6. design goal: build a system to help Wikipedians and/or other knowledge workers to discover, manage and verify (social media) sources during rapidly evolving eventsTuesday, May 1, 2012
  7. 7. research goal: discover how (social media) sources are chosen, managed and verified in rapidly evolving WP articlesTuesday, May 1, 2012
  8. 8. </the project>Tuesday, May 1, 2012
  9. 9. <sources_on_the_books>Tuesday, May 1, 2012
  10. 10. Tuesday, May 1, 2012
  11. 11. WP:SOURCE (or “Verifiability not truth”) xkcd https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Webcomic_xkcd_-_Wikipedian_protester.png CC BY NC by xkcdTuesday, May 1, 2012
  12. 12. WP:RS (or “reliable sources”) book + author + publisherTuesday, May 1, 2012
  13. 13. WP:RS (or “reliable sources”) • Number of people involved Specific to news reporting: • Number of citations in citation • identity of the author indexes • specificity and depth • type of article • verified • “published” status • circular sourcing • primary, secondary or tertiary sources • context • reputationTuesday, May 1, 2012
  14. 14. WP:RS (or “reliable sources”) Primary sources Secondary sources Tertiary sources eye witness accounts second hand accounts summarize primary and directly involved in an event one step removed from an secondary sources event diary encyclopedia review article work of art other compendia journal article political decision textbook Reliably published tertiary Can be used but only with sources can be helpful in Articles may make an care. Any interpretation of providing broad summaries analytic or evaluative claim primary source material of topics that involve many only if it has been published requires a reliable primary and secondary by a reliable source secondary source sources, esp. when sources contradict each other. https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:PSTS#Primary.2C_secondary_and_tertiary_sourcesTuesday, May 1, 2012
  15. 15. context is critical Primary sources Secondary sources Tertiary sources eye witness accounts second hand accounts summarize primary and directly involved in an event one step removed from an secondary sources event diary encyclopedia review article work of art other compendia journal article political decision textbook Reliably published tertiary Can be used but only with sources can be helpful in Articles may make an analytic care. Any interpretation of providing broad summaries of or evaluative claim only if it primary source material topics that involve many has been published by a requires a reliable secondary primary and secondary reliable source source sources, esp when sources contradict each other.Tuesday, May 1, 2012
  16. 16. context is critical Primary sources Secondary sources Tertiary sources eye witness accounts second hand accounts summarize primary and directly involved in an event one step removed from an secondary sources event diary encyclopedia review article work of art other compendia journal article political decision textbook journalism Reliably published tertiary Can be used but only with sources can be helpful in Articles may make an analytic care. Any interpretation of providing broad summaries of or evaluative claim only if it primary source material topics that involve many has been published by a requires a reliable secondary primary and secondary reliable source source sources, esp when sources contradict each other.Tuesday, May 1, 2012
  17. 17. context is critical Primary sources Secondary sources Tertiary sources eye witness accounts second hand accounts summarize primary and directly involved in an event one step removed from an secondary sources event diary encyclopedia review article work of art other compendia journal article political decision textbook journalism Reliably published tertiary Can be used but only with sources can be helpful in Articles may make an analytic care. Any interpretation of providing broad summaries of or evaluative claim only if it primary source material topics that involve many has been published by a requires a reliable secondary primary and secondary reliable source source sources, esp when sources contradict each other. WikipediaTuesday, May 1, 2012
  18. 18. </sources_on_the_books>Tuesday, May 1, 2012
  19. 19. <sources_on_the_ground>Tuesday, May 1, 2012
  20. 20. the source <original version+author> of the page can play a significant roleTuesday, May 1, 2012
  21. 21. Created by The Egyptian Liberal at 13:26 UTC, 25 January, 2011 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2011_Egyptian_revolution&oldid=409962868Tuesday, May 1, 2012
  22. 22. The 2011 Egyptian protests are a continuing series of street demonstrations taking place throughout Egypt from January 2010 onwards with organisers counting on the Tunisian uprising to inspire the crowds to mobilize. The demonstrations and riots were reported to have started over police brutality, State of Emergency Laws, unemployment, the lack of housing, food inflation, corruption, freedom of speech and poor living conditions [1]. The protests main goal is to oust President Hosni Mubarak who has been in power for more than 30 years. While localised protests were already commonplace over previous years, major protests and riots erupted all over the country starting in "25 January" (the date set by Egyptian opposition groups, celebrities and football supporters for a major demonstration)[1].Tuesday, May 1, 2012
  23. 23. The 2011 Egyptian protests are a continuing series of street demonstrations taking place throughout Egypt from January 2010 onwards with organisers counting on the Tunisian uprising to inspire the crowds to mobilize. The demonstrations and riots were reported to have started over police brutality, State of Emergency Laws, unemployment, the lack of housing, food inflation, corruption, freedom of speech and poor living conditions [1]. The protests main goal is to oust President Hosni Mubarak who has been in power for more than 30 years. While localised protests were already commonplace over previous years, major protests and riots erupted all over the country starting in "25 January" (the date set by Egyptian opposition groups, celebrities and football supporters for a major demonstration)[1].Tuesday, May 1, 2012
  24. 24. The 2011 Egyptian protests are a continuing series of street demonstrations taking place throughout Egypt from January 2010 onwards with organisers counting on the Tunisian uprising to inspire the crowds to mobilize. The demonstrations and riots were reported to have started over police brutality, State of Emergency Laws, unemployment, the lack of housing, food inflation, corruption, freedom of speech and poor living conditions [1]. The protests main goal is to oust President Hosni Mubarak who has been in power for more than 30 years. While localised protests were already commonplace over previous years, major protests and riots erupted all over the country starting in "25 January" (the date set by Egyptian opposition groups, celebrities and football supporters for a major demonstration)[1].Tuesday, May 1, 2012
  25. 25. The 2011 Egyptian protests are a continuing series of street demonstrations taking place throughout Egypt from January 2010 onwards with organisers counting on the Tunisian uprising to inspire the crowds to mobilize. The demonstrations and riots were reported to have started over police brutality, State of Emergency Laws, unemployment, the lack of housing, food inflation, corruption, freedom of speech and poor living conditions [1]. The protests main goal is to oust President Hosni Mubarak who has been in power for more than 30 years. While localised protests were already commonplace over previous years, major protests and riots erupted all over the country starting in "25 January" (the date set by Egyptian opposition groups, celebrities and football supporters for a major demonstration)[1].Tuesday, May 1, 2012
  26. 26. The 2011 Egyptian protests are a continuing series of street demonstrations taking place throughout Egypt from January 2010 onwards with organisers counting on the Tunisian uprising to inspire the crowds to mobilize. The demonstrations and riots were reported to have started over police brutality, State of Emergency Laws, unemployment, the lack of housing, food inflation, corruption, freedom of speech and poor living conditions [1]. The protests main goal is to oust President Hosni Mubarak who has been in power for more than 30 years. While localised protests were already commonplace over previous years, major protests and riots erupted all over the country starting in "25 January" (the date set by Egyptian opposition groups, celebrities and football supporters for a major demonstration)[1].Tuesday, May 1, 2012
  27. 27. The 2011 Egyptian protests are a continuing series of street demonstrations taking place throughout Egypt from January 2010 onwards with organisers counting on the Tunisian uprising to inspire the crowds to mobilize. The demonstrations and riots were reported to have started over police brutality, State of Emergency Laws, unemployment, the lack of housing, food inflation, corruption, freedom of speech and poor living conditions [1]. The protests main goal is to oust President Hosni Mubarak who has been in power for more than 30 years. While localised protests were already commonplace over previous years, major protests and riots erupted all over the country starting in "25 January" (the date set by Egyptian opposition groups, celebrities and football supporters for a major demonstration)[1].Tuesday, May 1, 2012
  28. 28. http://bit.ly/ggdZt4Tuesday, May 1, 2012
  29. 29. Caption: Khaled Mohamed Saeed holding up a tiny, flailing, stone-faced Hosni Mubarak https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/File:Khaled_Mohamed_Saeed_holding_up_a_tiny,_flailing,_stone-faced_Hosni_Mubarak.png File:Khaled Mohamed Saeed holding up a tiny, flailing, stone-faced Hosni Mubarak.png From Latuff on Twitpic: https://twitpic.com/3swvnr (Cartoon) We are all Khaled Said #Jan25Tuesday, May 1, 2012
  30. 30. User:The Egyptian Liberalhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:The_Egyptian_Liberal 3 April, 2012Tuesday, May 1, 2012
  31. 31. File:Police in civilian cloth beating a protester in Cairo 1.png Screenshot from Al Jazeera video: 29 January 2011 by the Egyptian Liberal https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/File:Police_in_civilian_cloth_beating_a_protester_in_Cairo_1.pngTuesday, May 1, 2012
  32. 32. Tuesday, May 1, 2012
  33. 33. Where the editors at I feel like I have been editing this page by myself for a while. This would have been cool if It was not about current event. The infos keep coming and honestly, I cant keep up. SO PLEASE HELP! -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 07:59, 9 February 2011 (UTC) I agree that more editors need to come and help. However, and please dont be offended in any way, but I think you should definitely let other editors take the lead, Egyptian Liberal. Although you have done a PHENOMENAL job so far, due to the fact that this issue seems very near and dear to your heart, I feel that perhaps you should step back and let those editors who may have a more objective view take the lead, with you offering guidance and advice. I would also like to tell you that as a fellow Deist, I am not praying for your compatriots, but I am however keeping them and their struggle in mind. I wish you and all of Egypt the best of luck in achieving democracy. Edit: BTW I am not editing this article because I support the protesters vehemently and do not feel that I could maintain a NPOV Lilly (talk) 02:08, 10 February 2011 (UTC) I completely understand your concern. Some of my friends have hurt during the protests so I might too invested in the article. I have been trying to be as neutral as I much as I can I am still a human. Thats why I asked for more editors to come and help to make sure I am not leaning on way or another. It helps that I blow most of anger on twitter and facebook when I get or read bad news. But I think I owe the people who are protesting and those who have passed away to tell their story from a NPOV. I am not nor can I be in Egypt due my university so that my way of standing up to Mubarak and tell him I shall not be silenced and I shall tell the world what happened. I would be happy not to take the lead. That why I asked Lihaas among others to add certain parts that I know I can not do. like the wael part due to my personal relationship with him. I hope you would join us in editing tho. If you maintain a NPOV, trust me, other editors will let you know (me included). P.S Always happy to meet another fellow Deist-- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 09:17, 10 February 2011 (UTC) Im glad that you understand and I feel that you have been very neutral so far. You have been doing a FABULOUS job, and I will try to help when I can. Perhaps I will try to write the timeline part. That seems pretty hard to be biased on that page/section. You are right, we do owe those that have died. We owe them a voice. Inshallah, no more people will die, and inshallah Mubarak will be out soon. Salaam. Lilly (talk) 15:39, 10 February 2011 (UTC) from Archive 5 of the 2011 Egyptian Revolution Talk pageTuesday, May 1, 2012
  34. 34. primary sources are gradually replaced by secondary sourcesTuesday, May 1, 2012
  35. 35. 11 February 16:04 UTCTuesday, May 1, 2012
  36. 36. 11 February 16:04 UTCTuesday, May 1, 2012
  37. 37. 1 year later: 13:27 UTC 25 Jan 2012Tuesday, May 1, 2012
  38. 38. 1 year later: 13:27 UTC 25 Jan 2012Tuesday, May 1, 2012
  39. 39. 1 year later: 13:27 UTC 25 Jan 2012Tuesday, May 1, 2012
  40. 40. the cite is not always the same as the sourceTuesday, May 1, 2012
  41. 41. Tuesday, May 1, 2012
  42. 42. source: live televisionTuesday, May 1, 2012
  43. 43. source: live televisionTuesday, May 1, 2012
  44. 44. verification by sources on the ground Wael Ghonim is released and there is a question about him being identified as the Facebook admin of one of the protest groups: I just spoke to Wael and no, he is still the admin of the page -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 08:57, 8 February 2011Tuesday, May 1, 2012
  45. 45. tags provide cues/warnings regarding the “in progress” nature of the articleTuesday, May 1, 2012
  46. 46. Tuesday, May 1, 2012
  47. 47. </sources_on_the_ground>Tuesday, May 1, 2012
  48. 48. <conclusions>Tuesday, May 1, 2012
  49. 49. WP:RS (or “reliable sources”) book + author + publisher William Beutler: http://thewikipedian.net/2011/04/01/wiki-fools/Tuesday, May 1, 2012
  50. 50. WP:RS (or “reliable sources”) book + author + publisher William Beutler: http://thewikipedian.net/2011/04/01/wiki-fools/Tuesday, May 1, 2012
  51. 51. The blurring of boundaries along traditional RS lines: - blogs can host reliable secondary source authors - Twitter can provide access to an authentic primary source showing how individuals reacted - Twitter RT by someone like Andy Carvin can be seen as a secondary sourceTuesday, May 1, 2012
  52. 52. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/NoticeboardTuesday, May 1, 2012
  53. 53. the cite is not always the same as the source Pic by Uwe Kils CC BY SA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Iceberg.jpgTuesday, May 1, 2012
  54. 54. </conclusions>Tuesday, May 1, 2012
  55. 55. <design recommendations>Tuesday, May 1, 2012
  56. 56. working from collaboratively managing sources already happeningTuesday, May 1, 2012
  57. 57. Tuesday, May 1, 2012
  58. 58. </design recommendations>Tuesday, May 1, 2012
  59. 59. http://www.swiftly.org/beta/Tuesday, May 1, 2012

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