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Using IDEA to create an efficient sample
methodology
Thinking of using IDEA to select a sample?
Have you considered if this is the right
thing to do?
Using IDEA to sample efficiently
• Can the client provide data easily?
• Is the data in one report or in several reports?
• Are the reports homogenous?
• Can I easily prove the data population is complete?
• Is the testing more efficient if done in IDEA?
Using IDEA to sample Efficiently
• Can the client provide data easily?
• Is the data in one report or in several reports?
• Are the reports homogenous?
• Can I easily prove the data population is complete?
• Is the testing more efficient if done in IDEA?
IF the
answer is yes
to all then use
IDEA
Back to basics- sample selection
techniques
• Random Selection
• Haphazard Selection
• Systematic Selection
• Monetary Unit Sampling
• Stratified selection
• Judgemental sampling
Where does IDEA have the greatest impact?
• Monetary Unit Sampling
• Stratified sample selection
• Judgemental sampling based on risk
Example
Selecting a stratified sample
• Scottish Local Authority
• Data is readily provided by the client, is in excel
and easily imported to IDEA
• Completeness verified by agreement to TB at year
end.
• Year 1 random testing sample of 25.
• Sample generated extremely difficult to trace and
extremely small in value.
Example
Selecting a stratified sample
• A key element in picking a judgemental sample is
understanding the population!
• IDEA can help with this almost instantly through
field statistics which give details of:
– maximum
– minimum
– average
– std deviation
• We used this to pick our sample in 2013/14
Example
Selecting a stratified sample
Example
Selecting a stratified sample
• Focuses the sample on what the auditor defines as
unusual
• Again there is an inherent need to understand the
population
• Design a testing strategy based on the risks you
have identified
Example
Selecting a judgemental sample based on
an area of risk
• Areas we typically define as unusual on journals:
- Round sum values
- Values over tolerable error
- Items posted on the weekend/ bank holiday
• The summarisation tool can also be used to
identify irregularities for sampling:
- By amount
- By user
Example
Selecting a judgemental sample based on
an area of risk
In conclusion….
• IDEA is a very powerful tool which can lead to
efficiencies in sampling procedures
• We should ensure the use of IDEA complements
our testing strategy
• To ensure we get the most from our sample we
need to understand our clients systems and the
underlying data
• Consider the sample approach you wish to
undertake and use the method which gives
the greatest efficiency.
Using IDEA to Create a Sampling Methodology

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Using IDEA to Create a Sampling Methodology

  • 1. Using IDEA to create an efficient sample methodology
  • 2. Thinking of using IDEA to select a sample? Have you considered if this is the right thing to do?
  • 3. Using IDEA to sample efficiently • Can the client provide data easily? • Is the data in one report or in several reports? • Are the reports homogenous? • Can I easily prove the data population is complete? • Is the testing more efficient if done in IDEA?
  • 4. Using IDEA to sample Efficiently • Can the client provide data easily? • Is the data in one report or in several reports? • Are the reports homogenous? • Can I easily prove the data population is complete? • Is the testing more efficient if done in IDEA? IF the answer is yes to all then use IDEA
  • 5. Back to basics- sample selection techniques • Random Selection • Haphazard Selection • Systematic Selection • Monetary Unit Sampling • Stratified selection • Judgemental sampling
  • 6. Where does IDEA have the greatest impact? • Monetary Unit Sampling • Stratified sample selection • Judgemental sampling based on risk
  • 7. Example Selecting a stratified sample • Scottish Local Authority • Data is readily provided by the client, is in excel and easily imported to IDEA • Completeness verified by agreement to TB at year end. • Year 1 random testing sample of 25. • Sample generated extremely difficult to trace and extremely small in value.
  • 8. Example Selecting a stratified sample • A key element in picking a judgemental sample is understanding the population! • IDEA can help with this almost instantly through field statistics which give details of: – maximum – minimum – average – std deviation • We used this to pick our sample in 2013/14
  • 11. • Focuses the sample on what the auditor defines as unusual • Again there is an inherent need to understand the population • Design a testing strategy based on the risks you have identified Example Selecting a judgemental sample based on an area of risk
  • 12. • Areas we typically define as unusual on journals: - Round sum values - Values over tolerable error - Items posted on the weekend/ bank holiday • The summarisation tool can also be used to identify irregularities for sampling: - By amount - By user Example Selecting a judgemental sample based on an area of risk
  • 13. In conclusion…. • IDEA is a very powerful tool which can lead to efficiencies in sampling procedures • We should ensure the use of IDEA complements our testing strategy • To ensure we get the most from our sample we need to understand our clients systems and the underlying data • Consider the sample approach you wish to undertake and use the method which gives the greatest efficiency.