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Kierkegaard           Nygren               Barth                Jüngel
• humans must         • humankind          • theology of love   • ‗love as God‘s
  strive to love as     dreams of a holy     based on             own identity‘
  God loves,            fellowship with      theologies of        and the human
  without               God                  creation and         correspondence
  preference          • humans are           election           • connection
• the person must       always related     • affirms the          between eros
  be emptied            to God as            human potential      and agape
  before God            sinners              to love as the
                                             work of the holy
                                             spirit
•   Came from an affluent family in Copenhagen, Denmark
         (only left the city twice in his life)
•   Influenced by:
        •   The Romantic Movement (die Romantic) – Schlegel and
            Schillers
        •   German Idealism – Schelling and Hegel
        •   But most notably, Socrates
•   Wrote over 30 works, many under ironic pseudonyms
        •   Used ―indirect communication‖
        •   Believed in three ―stages along life‘s way‖

Søren Kierkegaard, The Kierkegaard Reader, ed. Jane Chamberlain and Jonathan Rée
(Oxford: Blackwell Publishing, 2001), 381-383.
   Asserts that human persons really can
    love (contra Augustine)
    › Humans can actively relate to God and
      neighbor
 Preserves focus on the human body, it‘s
  natural desires, and emotions
 Love is work which must be done. It must
  be enacted.
    › Love as praxis
 Distinguishes between different sorts of love
 Rejects preferential love as Christian love
    › The Christian must love all equally (even the self)
   Christian love is a love of self denial
    › Persons must be emptied before God; they are
      unworthy subjects
 Kierkegaard does not draw on Jewish
  conceptions of love
 Kierkegaard‘s neglect of society/institutions
    › The self isolated from society and ecclesia
Kierkegaard‘s system and
further conception of love
The Religious




 The Ethical




The Aesthetic
   Kierkegaard and 19th Century
    Lutheranism
    › ―Saved by Grace through Faith‖
   Experiential character of love
    › Love, like faith, cannot be taught. Both must
      be experienced and enacted (shared).
   Intellectual influences
    › German Idealism, Die Romantik, Socrates
   Existential
   Biblically relevant
    › Utilizes both Hebrew Bible & New Testament
 Self love
 Other regard
 A Theology of Trust
 Existence as Given
•   Swedish, Lutheran theologian
       •   Professor systematic theology at Lund University from 1924
•   Ordained Priest in 1912 and served as parish minister for
    almost 9 years in Diocese of Gothenburg
       •   Elected bishop of Lund in 1948
•   Appointed as first president of Lutheran World Federation
       •   Active in both ecumenical affairs and in resisting Nazism
           before WWII
   Agape and Eros: The Christian Idea of Love
    › The most successful and influential
      theological book on love in the twentieth
      century
    › Christian love stands in radical opposition to
      the Greek eros and the Jewish love as
      nomos
    › The uniqueness of Christian love as agape
   Radical separation between human eros and divine agape.
   There is a problematic mixture, synthesis of eros - religion and
    agape – religion.
   Aim: to restore the purified Christian understanding of love
    by searching what is characteristic for all Christianity.
   Doesn‘t mention any manifestation or practical
    achievement of agape by the human persons, but only the
    formal aspects:
    › God comes from the outside
    › Only God and neighbor can be loved with God‘s love
    › Self-love is ruled out
Platonic                          Christian

             eros                             agape

   Major non-Christian motif           Major Christian motif
             Old                     completely revolutionary,
                                          entirely new

                                                         Particularly
                                                           Christian
                                                           meaning

Human form of egocentric and         Love that comes from God
        desiring love
                                                             Human
                            By its                          attitude:
                            own                          receptivity,
                        strength                            passivity


Aim: to reach the divine sphere        To receive God‘s love
Jewish religion of the law       Christian – agape
                                      religion


Law is the bound             Newly constituted
between people               fellowship with God


                             Jesus
Love commandment
                             New content

Pharisees – religion of      Jesus – religion of love:
law:
                             Includes all human
Jewish legal                 beings, even the sinners
righteousness
   Agape excludes all forms of self love (eros).

   Self love is man‘s natural condition and the reason for the
    perversity of his will.

   Nygren‘s aim: to expose and overcome the self-seeking eros-
    motif and to identify and reject all love discourses that do not
    build on God‘s absolute sovereignty.

   Augustine: synthesis of eros + agape = caritas        caritas
    needs to be exposed as a polluted manifestation of the
    original Christian idea of love.
   Nygren, like Augustine and Luther, approaches love from
    anthropological and theological presuppositions: God vs.
    imperfect creation.

   Since Christian love comes from God only He can be
    conceived as its subject. Consequently, the human being
    becomes a ―mere object of this divine love that employs
    man as its instrument and organ‖.

   All human desire is in opposition to the divine gift of love.

   Faith is a precondition of the receiving of God‘s love: if you
    don‘t believe you cannot love in a Christian way.
• Swiss Reformed theologian

• Among the most important Christian thinkers of the 20th
    century

•   From 1911 to 1921 he served as a Reformed pastor in the
    village of Safenwil

• Professor of theology in Göttingen (1921–
    1925), Münster (1925–1930) and Bonn (1930–1935)

• Forced to leave Germany in 1935 after he refused to swear
    allegiance to Adolf Hitler

• Professor in Basel (1935–1962)
   Any consideration of faith, love and hope must be rooted in
    Christological reflection.
   Explicating Christian existence from its centre – Jesus Christ.
   Christian love comes from God through Christ.
   In Christ, God loved the world in a concrete-perceptible way.
   He showed that He did not will to be God without all men.
   He has demonstrated that all men and each individual man
    cannot be without Him.
Jesus is patient; Jesus is kind; Jesus is not envious or
boastful or arrogant or rude. He does not insist on His
own way; He is not irritable or resentful; He does not
rejoice in wrongdoing, but rejoices in the truth. He bears
all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures
all things.

(verses 4 - 7)
   Neither the Old Testament nor the New speak about a love for man as
    such and therefore for all man; of a universal love of humanity.

   Universal love can be thought only as an idea or an attitude.

   Christian love is an “act of obedience” which does not “take place always
    and everywhere” but is determined by time, place and a concrete
    demarcation and limitation of its objects: a love of choices and
    differentiations.

   Insists on the concrete historical context.

   The “circle of brothers” – the horizon of Christian love, may need to be
    extended beyond what we can see now.
   Sharp distinction between Eros and Agape:

   Which one reflects the “true human nature as created by God”.
   Agape-love - affinity
                                    human nature
   Eros-love - opposition

   Conclusion: “Erotic love is a denial of humanity”.

   Agape is characterized by self-giving: turning wholly to another, although
    the other is only an “object of love”.
Christian love                    The other kind of love


                                      -grasping, taking, possessive love –
                                      self-love
The reconciliation between God and
                                     Its object:
humankind, achieved in Jesus Christ
      - a qualitative difference.    -Not necessarily sensual.
                                     - It can be directed to the good, the
                                     true and the beautiful.
                                     -Even in its sexual form it may have
The ambiguity of Christian love: due
                                     reference to the soul and not
to the ongoing mixture of both loves
                                     merely to the body.
         in one human being.
                                     -It may even include God as its
                                     object.
   Related with human love.

   It moves human beings to act accordingly: love is not a feeling but an act.

   Human persons are not simple channels of God’s love, but genuine
    subjects who love in response to God’s prior love.

   3 crucial aspects of God’s love: Elective, Purifying, Creative.

   There is an inner connection between love for God and for neighbour, but
    they must never be identified: they are “distinct and must not be
    confused. But they are also inseparable”.
Originality of Christian love Vs. Continuity between the Old and the New
                                  Testaments.

    There is not a change in God’s love over the years.

    We have seen another manifestation of this love in Christ: God’s
     determination to love humankind totally.

    There is a significant difference between the Old Testament and the New
     Testament: the emphasis on love for the neighbour and its connection
     with love for God, corresponding to the New Testament tradition.
Nygren                               Barth


“The synthesis between eros-love   “Is it not of the very essence of the
and agape-love should have come             history that this opposition
to an end with Luther”                                can never be fully
                                                            overcome?”
                         Fellowship
No ecclesiological       with God               Concrete Christian
conclusions                                                   Church

Love: God’ action over             Love: a human response to
human passivity                             God’s love
Nygren’s theology of love                 Barth’s theology of love
                         Rejection of self-love

• Rooted in his understanding of the   • Rooted in his theology of creation
theology of justification.             and election and based on his
                                       biblical interpretation.

• God alone can be the loving          • Human being is able to love God
subject.                               and his/her neighbours.

                                       •God’s love – the origin of human
                                       love (always preceding it).
   Sharp distinction between Eros and Agape.

   God’s love should be understood as related with human love.

   Wants to prove both originality of Christian love and the continuity
    between the Old and the New Testaments.

   Any consideration of faith, love and hope must be rooted in Christological
    reflection.

   Barth concludes his reflections on Christian love with a praise of love in 1
    Corinthians 13 as a parallel to the Old Testament’s Song of Songs: it is
    love alone that counts.
•   Born: 1933
•   Professor of Systematic Theology and Philosophy of Religion at Tübingen,
    Germany
•   Influenced by the German Protestant tradition
        •   Barth, Bultmann, and Luther
        •   Hegel and Heidegger also influence his work
•   Major work: God as the Mystery of the World (1977)
        •   Focuses on a critique of classical theism and contemporary atheism
        •   Centers his Trinitarian account of God on the idea of God as different
            aspects of love.

Additional reading sources:
Online essays and books: http://www.tyndale.ca/seminary/mtsmodular/reading-
rooms/theology/jungel
A theological forum dedicated to his thought: http://godasmystery.blogspot.com/
Brief biographical data: http://www.theopedia.com/Eberhard_J%C3%BCngel
    Centers Trinitarian thought around 1 John 4:8:
     ―Whoever does not love does not know God,
     because God is love.‖
      › The Christ event becomes the epitome of God‘s self-giving
        love
      › Attempts to theologically demarcate between love and
        God while keeping the Johannine identification of God as
        love
    Jeanrond will later argue this scope is too limited—
     Jungel bases his theology only on John (pg 131)
    Others, such as J.M Dittberner will argue that this
     makes God and Jesus less abstract
      › ―Jungel‘s God still comes to us from the Bible. In fact, his
          very Being is ‗coming,‘ and this is no mere fideism,
          certainty can emerge…‖

Dittberner, J.M. "Vehicle for God: Metaphorical Theology of Eberhard Jungel." Theological Studies December, 1996.
A   pre-understanding of love: I and Thou
 › The ‗loving I‘ desires the Thou (loved object)
      Shows desire is integral to love, cannot be absolute
       selflessness
      This stems from Martin Buber‘s book, I-Thou (Ich-Du)
       and also has traces in the Hegelian Dialectic
 › Relationship love has 3 ontological aspects
      Affection (Zuneigung)
      Turning to the other person (Zuwendung)
      Self-giving (Hingabe)
       Becomes the more important aspect of Jungel‘s thought for
        Jeanrond
 The   I surrenders itself to the Thou in a
    renewal exchange, creating a symbiotic
    relationship: if no Thou, then no loving I (and
    vice versa)
    › Similar to the Hegelian argument of being and
      nonbeing
   Thus love is a totalizing power: love creates a
    relationship of being
    › With no love, neither the loving I nor the Thou exists
•   God is the ultimate source of love
       •   This identification of God is revealed in the Crucified Christ
           •   As a total loving God, sacrifices his son, drawing in the finiteness of
               humanity into his infinite God-self
           •   Post-resurrection, this love is sustained through the Holy Spirit
       •   This act of sacrificial, ultimate love bonds the (loving) Trinity
           with humanity throughout history
•   Shades of Luther: God makes humanity worthy of God
       •   ―The love flowing from the cross makes the ugly person
           beautiful in the eyes of God‖ (Jeanrond, pg 130)
   Humanity‘s love is a love of desire (eros) and Hingabe
    › All genuine love has a desire component
    › Hingabe is a selfless, surrendering love but still requires a
      loving subject and an object
    › When erotic love is separated from other forms of love, it
      becomes selfish and self-centered
   God is the subject and object of love at once
    › Therefore, God‘s love is a complete, totally selfless love
    › A distinction made in faith
        Human love is correspondent to the loving God but only
         through the experience of faith
        Faith and love go hand in hand: cannot love without faith,
         cannot have faith without love
    › Only possible with God (as the creator and through the
      Trinity)
•   Jungel back to lack of scope:
       •   Does not go into the historical motives of the Johannine
           community‘s desire to frame God in this way
       •   Jeanrond is right to point out that this is a narrow scope but
           Jungel‘s thought does not overtly contradict other passages
•   Never problematizes his understanding of selfhood and
    subjectivity
       •   Who is the self? How does the self evolve?
       •   What is the relation between self-giving and self-surrender?
   Jungel‘s focus is on understanding God as love, but
    in many aspects it becomes too abstract:
    › Where does the body do? Jungel does not discuss the
      implications of the Christ-event to the body
   While he corresponds human love to God‘s love,
    several anthropological points remain unplotted
    › Jeanrond sees a lack of understanding in the self
       ―Who is the self that is to grow into self-relationality and self-
        giving?‖
       ―How do self-relationality and self-giving relate?‖ (Pg 131)
       Harks back to Jeanrond‘s desire for a sound anthropology
        of love
   Jungel focuses on understanding God‘s
    identity as love
    › Too Abstract for Jeanrond
    › Has no sense of ―social, ecclesiastical or
      communal space‖ (pgs 132).
   However, Jeanrond must keep in mind that
    Jungel has a different theological task
    › Jungel‘s systematic theology is centered around
      the debate of classical theism and atheism
       With this in mind, Jungel‘s theology is focused on a
        definite understanding of God that can then be
        applied to other matters
   All four authors carry on Luther‘s
    Christological concentration
    › Therefore, each of the authors continues
      Luther‘s separation between human love
      and God‘s love
   They typify the tendency to view the
    human person (and human love) not as
    divinely inspired, but as unworthy
    › This is a continuation, specifically, of
      Augustine
 These authors each develop Luther‘s
  theology (from the end of the last
  chapter) in new ways, moving toward
  the question of love and desire (in the
  next chapter)
 This task is necessary so that Jeanrond
  can claim desire as a part of love
 These authors, he believes, clearly
  differentiate between human desire for
  love and the divine gift of love
 Kierkegaard rejects desire, especially in
  preferential love, but maintains self-love
 Nygren rejects eros as a selfish force which
  desires to reach the divine by its own
  strength
 For Barth, the opposition between eros and
  agape cannot be overcome; they are
  always present together in the human
  person
 Jungel sees God‘s love as agape and all
  human love having some component of
  desire
    › Desire is only bad when it is separated from
     other love
   These authors are trying to make sense of
    a separation between human and godly
    love. Why do they need to create these
    distinctions? Why does Jeanrond push
    back against them?
   Throughout the work, and specifically in
    this chapter, Jeanrond has sought to
    reclaim the sacrality of the body, the
    place of self love, and of love for the
    other qua the other in a theology of
    love. Why do these anthropological and
    interpersonal concerns factor so heavily
    into a theology?
   From Augustine to Jungel, we have
    discussed the problem of desire in
    Christian conceptions of love. Why is
    desire so problematic? What does the
    fact that Jeanrond is giving such stage
    time to the problem of desire say about
    his task? How is it a critique of historical
    Christian conceptions of desire?

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Theology of love presentation 17 12-2010

  • 2. Kierkegaard Nygren Barth Jüngel • humans must • humankind • theology of love • ‗love as God‘s strive to love as dreams of a holy based on own identity‘ God loves, fellowship with theologies of and the human without God creation and correspondence preference • humans are election • connection • the person must always related • affirms the between eros be emptied to God as human potential and agape before God sinners to love as the work of the holy spirit
  • 3. Came from an affluent family in Copenhagen, Denmark (only left the city twice in his life) • Influenced by: • The Romantic Movement (die Romantic) – Schlegel and Schillers • German Idealism – Schelling and Hegel • But most notably, Socrates • Wrote over 30 works, many under ironic pseudonyms • Used ―indirect communication‖ • Believed in three ―stages along life‘s way‖ Søren Kierkegaard, The Kierkegaard Reader, ed. Jane Chamberlain and Jonathan Rée (Oxford: Blackwell Publishing, 2001), 381-383.
  • 4. Asserts that human persons really can love (contra Augustine) › Humans can actively relate to God and neighbor  Preserves focus on the human body, it‘s natural desires, and emotions  Love is work which must be done. It must be enacted. › Love as praxis
  • 5.  Distinguishes between different sorts of love  Rejects preferential love as Christian love › The Christian must love all equally (even the self)  Christian love is a love of self denial › Persons must be emptied before God; they are unworthy subjects  Kierkegaard does not draw on Jewish conceptions of love  Kierkegaard‘s neglect of society/institutions › The self isolated from society and ecclesia
  • 7. The Religious The Ethical The Aesthetic
  • 8. Kierkegaard and 19th Century Lutheranism › ―Saved by Grace through Faith‖  Experiential character of love › Love, like faith, cannot be taught. Both must be experienced and enacted (shared).  Intellectual influences › German Idealism, Die Romantik, Socrates  Existential
  • 9. Biblically relevant › Utilizes both Hebrew Bible & New Testament  Self love  Other regard  A Theology of Trust  Existence as Given
  • 10. Swedish, Lutheran theologian • Professor systematic theology at Lund University from 1924 • Ordained Priest in 1912 and served as parish minister for almost 9 years in Diocese of Gothenburg • Elected bishop of Lund in 1948 • Appointed as first president of Lutheran World Federation • Active in both ecumenical affairs and in resisting Nazism before WWII
  • 11. Agape and Eros: The Christian Idea of Love › The most successful and influential theological book on love in the twentieth century › Christian love stands in radical opposition to the Greek eros and the Jewish love as nomos › The uniqueness of Christian love as agape
  • 12. Radical separation between human eros and divine agape.  There is a problematic mixture, synthesis of eros - religion and agape – religion.  Aim: to restore the purified Christian understanding of love by searching what is characteristic for all Christianity.  Doesn‘t mention any manifestation or practical achievement of agape by the human persons, but only the formal aspects: › God comes from the outside › Only God and neighbor can be loved with God‘s love › Self-love is ruled out
  • 13. Platonic Christian eros agape Major non-Christian motif Major Christian motif Old completely revolutionary, entirely new Particularly Christian meaning Human form of egocentric and Love that comes from God desiring love Human By its attitude: own receptivity, strength passivity Aim: to reach the divine sphere To receive God‘s love
  • 14. Jewish religion of the law Christian – agape religion Law is the bound Newly constituted between people fellowship with God Jesus Love commandment New content Pharisees – religion of Jesus – religion of love: law: Includes all human Jewish legal beings, even the sinners righteousness
  • 15. Agape excludes all forms of self love (eros).  Self love is man‘s natural condition and the reason for the perversity of his will.  Nygren‘s aim: to expose and overcome the self-seeking eros- motif and to identify and reject all love discourses that do not build on God‘s absolute sovereignty.  Augustine: synthesis of eros + agape = caritas caritas needs to be exposed as a polluted manifestation of the original Christian idea of love.
  • 16. Nygren, like Augustine and Luther, approaches love from anthropological and theological presuppositions: God vs. imperfect creation.  Since Christian love comes from God only He can be conceived as its subject. Consequently, the human being becomes a ―mere object of this divine love that employs man as its instrument and organ‖.  All human desire is in opposition to the divine gift of love.  Faith is a precondition of the receiving of God‘s love: if you don‘t believe you cannot love in a Christian way.
  • 17. • Swiss Reformed theologian • Among the most important Christian thinkers of the 20th century • From 1911 to 1921 he served as a Reformed pastor in the village of Safenwil • Professor of theology in Göttingen (1921– 1925), Münster (1925–1930) and Bonn (1930–1935) • Forced to leave Germany in 1935 after he refused to swear allegiance to Adolf Hitler • Professor in Basel (1935–1962)
  • 18. Any consideration of faith, love and hope must be rooted in Christological reflection.  Explicating Christian existence from its centre – Jesus Christ.  Christian love comes from God through Christ.  In Christ, God loved the world in a concrete-perceptible way.  He showed that He did not will to be God without all men.  He has demonstrated that all men and each individual man cannot be without Him.
  • 19. Jesus is patient; Jesus is kind; Jesus is not envious or boastful or arrogant or rude. He does not insist on His own way; He is not irritable or resentful; He does not rejoice in wrongdoing, but rejoices in the truth. He bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. (verses 4 - 7)
  • 20. Neither the Old Testament nor the New speak about a love for man as such and therefore for all man; of a universal love of humanity.  Universal love can be thought only as an idea or an attitude.  Christian love is an “act of obedience” which does not “take place always and everywhere” but is determined by time, place and a concrete demarcation and limitation of its objects: a love of choices and differentiations.  Insists on the concrete historical context.  The “circle of brothers” – the horizon of Christian love, may need to be extended beyond what we can see now.
  • 21. Sharp distinction between Eros and Agape:  Which one reflects the “true human nature as created by God”.  Agape-love - affinity human nature  Eros-love - opposition  Conclusion: “Erotic love is a denial of humanity”.  Agape is characterized by self-giving: turning wholly to another, although the other is only an “object of love”.
  • 22. Christian love The other kind of love -grasping, taking, possessive love – self-love The reconciliation between God and Its object: humankind, achieved in Jesus Christ - a qualitative difference. -Not necessarily sensual. - It can be directed to the good, the true and the beautiful. -Even in its sexual form it may have The ambiguity of Christian love: due reference to the soul and not to the ongoing mixture of both loves merely to the body. in one human being. -It may even include God as its object.
  • 23. Related with human love.  It moves human beings to act accordingly: love is not a feeling but an act.  Human persons are not simple channels of God’s love, but genuine subjects who love in response to God’s prior love.  3 crucial aspects of God’s love: Elective, Purifying, Creative.  There is an inner connection between love for God and for neighbour, but they must never be identified: they are “distinct and must not be confused. But they are also inseparable”.
  • 24. Originality of Christian love Vs. Continuity between the Old and the New Testaments.  There is not a change in God’s love over the years.  We have seen another manifestation of this love in Christ: God’s determination to love humankind totally.  There is a significant difference between the Old Testament and the New Testament: the emphasis on love for the neighbour and its connection with love for God, corresponding to the New Testament tradition.
  • 25. Nygren Barth “The synthesis between eros-love “Is it not of the very essence of the and agape-love should have come history that this opposition to an end with Luther” can never be fully overcome?” Fellowship No ecclesiological with God Concrete Christian conclusions Church Love: God’ action over Love: a human response to human passivity God’s love
  • 26. Nygren’s theology of love Barth’s theology of love Rejection of self-love • Rooted in his understanding of the • Rooted in his theology of creation theology of justification. and election and based on his biblical interpretation. • God alone can be the loving • Human being is able to love God subject. and his/her neighbours. •God’s love – the origin of human love (always preceding it).
  • 27. Sharp distinction between Eros and Agape.  God’s love should be understood as related with human love.  Wants to prove both originality of Christian love and the continuity between the Old and the New Testaments.  Any consideration of faith, love and hope must be rooted in Christological reflection.  Barth concludes his reflections on Christian love with a praise of love in 1 Corinthians 13 as a parallel to the Old Testament’s Song of Songs: it is love alone that counts.
  • 28. Born: 1933 • Professor of Systematic Theology and Philosophy of Religion at Tübingen, Germany • Influenced by the German Protestant tradition • Barth, Bultmann, and Luther • Hegel and Heidegger also influence his work • Major work: God as the Mystery of the World (1977) • Focuses on a critique of classical theism and contemporary atheism • Centers his Trinitarian account of God on the idea of God as different aspects of love. Additional reading sources: Online essays and books: http://www.tyndale.ca/seminary/mtsmodular/reading- rooms/theology/jungel A theological forum dedicated to his thought: http://godasmystery.blogspot.com/ Brief biographical data: http://www.theopedia.com/Eberhard_J%C3%BCngel
  • 29. Centers Trinitarian thought around 1 John 4:8: ―Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.‖ › The Christ event becomes the epitome of God‘s self-giving love › Attempts to theologically demarcate between love and God while keeping the Johannine identification of God as love  Jeanrond will later argue this scope is too limited— Jungel bases his theology only on John (pg 131)  Others, such as J.M Dittberner will argue that this makes God and Jesus less abstract › ―Jungel‘s God still comes to us from the Bible. In fact, his very Being is ‗coming,‘ and this is no mere fideism, certainty can emerge…‖ Dittberner, J.M. "Vehicle for God: Metaphorical Theology of Eberhard Jungel." Theological Studies December, 1996.
  • 30. A pre-understanding of love: I and Thou › The ‗loving I‘ desires the Thou (loved object)  Shows desire is integral to love, cannot be absolute selflessness  This stems from Martin Buber‘s book, I-Thou (Ich-Du) and also has traces in the Hegelian Dialectic › Relationship love has 3 ontological aspects  Affection (Zuneigung)  Turning to the other person (Zuwendung)  Self-giving (Hingabe)  Becomes the more important aspect of Jungel‘s thought for Jeanrond
  • 31.  The I surrenders itself to the Thou in a renewal exchange, creating a symbiotic relationship: if no Thou, then no loving I (and vice versa) › Similar to the Hegelian argument of being and nonbeing  Thus love is a totalizing power: love creates a relationship of being › With no love, neither the loving I nor the Thou exists
  • 32. God is the ultimate source of love • This identification of God is revealed in the Crucified Christ • As a total loving God, sacrifices his son, drawing in the finiteness of humanity into his infinite God-self • Post-resurrection, this love is sustained through the Holy Spirit • This act of sacrificial, ultimate love bonds the (loving) Trinity with humanity throughout history • Shades of Luther: God makes humanity worthy of God • ―The love flowing from the cross makes the ugly person beautiful in the eyes of God‖ (Jeanrond, pg 130)
  • 33. Humanity‘s love is a love of desire (eros) and Hingabe › All genuine love has a desire component › Hingabe is a selfless, surrendering love but still requires a loving subject and an object › When erotic love is separated from other forms of love, it becomes selfish and self-centered  God is the subject and object of love at once › Therefore, God‘s love is a complete, totally selfless love › A distinction made in faith  Human love is correspondent to the loving God but only through the experience of faith  Faith and love go hand in hand: cannot love without faith, cannot have faith without love › Only possible with God (as the creator and through the Trinity)
  • 34. Jungel back to lack of scope: • Does not go into the historical motives of the Johannine community‘s desire to frame God in this way • Jeanrond is right to point out that this is a narrow scope but Jungel‘s thought does not overtly contradict other passages • Never problematizes his understanding of selfhood and subjectivity • Who is the self? How does the self evolve? • What is the relation between self-giving and self-surrender?
  • 35. Jungel‘s focus is on understanding God as love, but in many aspects it becomes too abstract: › Where does the body do? Jungel does not discuss the implications of the Christ-event to the body  While he corresponds human love to God‘s love, several anthropological points remain unplotted › Jeanrond sees a lack of understanding in the self  ―Who is the self that is to grow into self-relationality and self- giving?‖  ―How do self-relationality and self-giving relate?‖ (Pg 131)  Harks back to Jeanrond‘s desire for a sound anthropology of love
  • 36. Jungel focuses on understanding God‘s identity as love › Too Abstract for Jeanrond › Has no sense of ―social, ecclesiastical or communal space‖ (pgs 132).  However, Jeanrond must keep in mind that Jungel has a different theological task › Jungel‘s systematic theology is centered around the debate of classical theism and atheism  With this in mind, Jungel‘s theology is focused on a definite understanding of God that can then be applied to other matters
  • 37.
  • 38. All four authors carry on Luther‘s Christological concentration › Therefore, each of the authors continues Luther‘s separation between human love and God‘s love  They typify the tendency to view the human person (and human love) not as divinely inspired, but as unworthy › This is a continuation, specifically, of Augustine
  • 39.  These authors each develop Luther‘s theology (from the end of the last chapter) in new ways, moving toward the question of love and desire (in the next chapter)  This task is necessary so that Jeanrond can claim desire as a part of love  These authors, he believes, clearly differentiate between human desire for love and the divine gift of love
  • 40.  Kierkegaard rejects desire, especially in preferential love, but maintains self-love  Nygren rejects eros as a selfish force which desires to reach the divine by its own strength  For Barth, the opposition between eros and agape cannot be overcome; they are always present together in the human person  Jungel sees God‘s love as agape and all human love having some component of desire › Desire is only bad when it is separated from other love
  • 41. These authors are trying to make sense of a separation between human and godly love. Why do they need to create these distinctions? Why does Jeanrond push back against them?
  • 42. Throughout the work, and specifically in this chapter, Jeanrond has sought to reclaim the sacrality of the body, the place of self love, and of love for the other qua the other in a theology of love. Why do these anthropological and interpersonal concerns factor so heavily into a theology?
  • 43. From Augustine to Jungel, we have discussed the problem of desire in Christian conceptions of love. Why is desire so problematic? What does the fact that Jeanrond is giving such stage time to the problem of desire say about his task? How is it a critique of historical Christian conceptions of desire?

Editor's Notes

  1. HegelianBeing-Nonbeing:Primitive and absolute Being is non-being,Non-being-Being is a subject, a perennially ongoing activityThrough this, Being is fundamentally differentiated: creating for itself an infinite series of phenomenaThus, “pure indeterminateness” (nothingness) builds upon itself, creating states of development into determinate, finite beings
  2. Mentions relationship between love and death without going into the implicationsWhat about radical otherness and the resurrection? Jungel utilizes Hegelian and Heideggerian understanding of Being but does not explain the bodily interpretations within “God is Love”