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              The figures appear to count only those with an OS installed (4% being other).




                         RE: IDC: Dollarwise, Windows still leads the server
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                         WilErz Updated - 3rd Mar 2011


              @ Richard Flude

              According to Channel Register, IDC include servers shipped with no operating
              system. However, they have a method of guesstimating which operating systems are
              installed. The method isn't specified, but an obvious one would be to survey a
              random sample of customers provided by the vendors, asking which OSes they
              installed on their recently purchased servers.

              So, I was wrong. The IDC figures do indeed include servers that ship without an OS,
              as I thought, but most of these servers aren't assigned to the 'other' category.
              Rather, they're assigned to categories according to an internal IDC estimation
              procedure.

              The key points stand that: (a) the figures refer to server hardware revenue, (b) Linux
              requires hardware, (c) servers that ship with no OS installed are included in the
              figures. So, unless IDC are conspiring against Linux (I'm sure some zealots will claim
              this), there's no reason at all to believe that the IDC figures understate Linux's share
              of server shipment revenue (or unit shipments when unit figures are available, as in
              Mary Jo Foley's article last June, which I refer to below).




                      RE: IDC: Dollarwise, Windows still leads the server
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                      daikon 2nd Mar 2011


           @jk_10
           What does Linux have to do with Unix?


              Reply




                         Obivious...
                         jk_10 2nd Mar 2011
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              @daikon Linux is there only because of existence of Unix (don't think I have to
              explain). Imagine Unix is gone, zero, will Linux still have a share? where will it go?


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up? down?




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                         daikon 2nd Mar 2011


              jk_10,
              Linux will always have a share.




                         jk_10: The market share of Workloads handled by
                                                                                                0
                         Linux / Unix is going up.
                         DonnieBoy 2nd Mar 2011


              It is just the revenue share that is going down, because of the ease of internal
              groups supporting supporting Linux without having to pay for the OS. This only
              shows how expensive Windows servers are.




                      I can tell you where it went in our shop
                      terry flores 2nd Mar 2011
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           @jk_10

           My major project last year was standing up a 1000-core HPC cluster running Linux, done
           1.5 months ahead of schedule, total software cost $485 (some monitoring app that our
           architect was in love with). On the Windows side we decommissioned 8 Windows
           systems, or about 20 percent of our remaining M$ server boxes.


              Reply




                      She was careful to repeat "in terms of revenue"
                      TripleII-21189418044173169409978279405827 2nd Mar 2011
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           @jk_10
           Since a paid for server is typically 1/3 the price of the Windows equivalent, and of course
           the massive base of "free" servers installed via local IT, in terms of marketshare,
           Windows server is not growing nearly as fast.

           Your statement about Linux is eating Unix is very 2004ish. Linux was a natural
           replacement for Unix at their EOL, but with the ease of implementing Linux servers
           today, it is pretty easy to replace Windows now once the proprietary shackles are dealt
           with.

           TripleII


              Reply




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                         WilErz 2nd Mar 2011


              @TripleII

              In terms of volume, Windows Server has an even higher market share. Unix is
              typically used on very expensive hardware, and as users of this hardware migrate to
              Linux, this adds a lot to the Linux revenue share but very little to the Linux unit
              share.




                      RE: IDC: Dollarwise, Windows still leads the server
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                      WilErz 2nd Mar 2011


           @ Richard Flude



http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/idc-dollarwise-windows-still-leads-the-server-market/8825            Page 4 / 12
I refer you to Mary Jo Foley's article from last June, 'IDC: Windows Server still rules the
           server roost'. In it, she explains that the IDC percentages don't add up to 100 because
           IDC include an unspecified 'other' category. She also includes unit shipments (for
           2009Q4 and 2010Q1), which show that Windows is even more dominant in unit terms
           than in revenue terms.


              Reply




                          Right. Figure doesn't include servers shipped with no
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                          OS
                          Richard Flude 3rd Mar 2011


              There's a significant proportion of servers (much greater than 4%) where OS is
              installed onsite. Including windows volume license and site license customers.




                          RE: IDC: Dollarwise, Windows still leads the server
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                          market
                          WilErz 3rd Mar 2011


              @Richard Flude

              According to whom?




                      Revenue costs of a Free system
                      T o m 6 29th Mar
                                                                                                0


           usage would be a more useful method of comparing a free system (linux) against one
           that charges (Windows). Obviously the one that always charges has higher revenue
           than one that doesn't.

           A classic case of misinformation through useless stats.
           Regards from Tom


              Reply




                   The article may be true, but ...
                   terry flores 2nd Mar 2011
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        The license "revenue" from our 28 Windows servers was more than the "revenue" from our
        840 Linux servers, since the license cost for the 840 servers was zero. If the intent of the
        article was to point out the higher cost for Windows servers, I guess that's true.


           Reply




                      Yes, you hit the nail on the head. The percentage of
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                      workloads handled by
                      DonnieBoy 2nd Mar 2011


           Windows is very low, but, for the small niches where Windows server is used, they are
           paying through the nose.


              Reply




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                          condelirios 2nd Mar 2011


              @DonnieBoy Niches? HUH? Windows dominates in the server market. It isn't even
              close. 40% market share in this space is huge. Competing with free OS Linux, and
              the Traditional Unix servers and winning is what Windows is doing. Niche = Linux in
              both servers and desktops.



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                         Tim Patterson 2nd Mar 2011


              @conde...

              Use your brain. "as a percentage of revenue"

              This does not tell us how many servers are in operation nor their OSs.

              Many thousands of Linux installs were free. Have a few good Linux guys? No need to
              pay Redhat or Novell. Of course this won't count in IDC's silly little "percentage of
              revenue" survey.




                      Still buying boatloads of Windows servers
                      honeymonster 2nd Mar 2011
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           @terry flores
           Customers obviously find that Windows gives them value for money. Otherwise they
           would not buy Windows servers.


              Reply




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                         itguy08 2nd Mar 2011


              @honeymonster

              1. They don't know better.
              2. If you pull Windows servers out, watch your OS license go up. Or you will get a
              visit from the BSA goons...

              MS has resorted to #2 quite a few times.




                         I didn't say anything negative about Windows
                         terry flores 2nd Mar 2011
                                                                                                0


              @honeymonster

              As you point out, there are many customers who find Windows Servers suitable for
              their purposes and budgets. Microsoft is in no danger of going out of business. I just
              pointed out that you have to be careful when making comparisons between
              marketshare based on different metrics like units shipped or revenues.




                         itguy08 likes spewing BS
                                                                                                0
                         Will Farrell 2nd Mar 2011


              @itguy08
              everything you say is one big lie, so just grow up or go home.
              You are nothing but a boldface lier.




                      MS can continue to compete against Linux
                      P. Douglas 2nd Mar 2011
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           @terry flores,

           As long as MS continues to differentiate Windows server from Linux on core and
           expanded features, as well as on overall abilities, ease-of-use, and value, Windows
           server can continue to grow and compete against Linux. (It's not all about price, or else
           Apple would be a failure in the computer market today.) E.g. having software which
           allows you to use 3D visualization to zoom in and out, and see what's going on your


http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/idc-dollarwise-windows-still-leads-the-server-market/8825          Page 6 / 12
whole network, would be fantastic!


              Reply




                      You need 840 Linux servers to do the work of 28
                                                                                                0
                      Windows servers?
                      Will Farrell Updated - 2nd Mar 2011


           @terry flores

           That's just insane.


              Reply




                         Is this an attempt at humor?
                         terry flores Updated - 3rd Mar 2011
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              @Will Farrell

              If it was, I pity you. If it wasn't, I pity you even more.

              The two projects are unrelated. We have been phasing out Windows as a server
              platform for the last two years after our licensing costs from Microsoft skyrocketed.




                      Is the hardware free too?
                                                                                                0
                      WilErz 2nd Mar 2011


           @terry flores

           You'd have a point if the figures referred to OS licence revenue, rather than to server
           hardware revenue.


              Reply




                   Mean averages from IDC, Gartner, and Netcraft...
                   olePigeon 2nd Mar 2011
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        Mean averages from IDC, Gartner, and Netcraft put usage marketshare at approximately:

        Windows: 41.59%
        Linux: 41.02%
        UNIX: 5.54%

        So with Linux at roughly 41% of the usage share but only 17% of the revenue share,
        Windows looks to be very expensive (but not as expensive as UNIX.)


           Reply




                      These are also only a percentage of websites using a given
                                                                                                0
                      OS. The biggest
                      DonnieBoy 2nd Mar 2011


           sites use Linux / Unix almost exclusively. So, if there were a way to measure the
           percentage of workloads handled by Linux, it would be very high. It is mostly just small
           websites using Windows.


              Reply




                      The article omitted the obnoxious fee Linux
                      LBiege 2nd Mar 2011
                                                                                                0


           ... administrators charge you when deciphering those 500 command-line arguments that


http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/idc-dollarwise-windows-still-leads-the-server-market/8825         Page 7 / 12
you don't run into in a Windows environment. The TCO of Linux is exorbitant.


                Reply




                           Not anymore.
                           TripleII-21189418044173169409978279405827 2nd Mar 2011
                                                                                                0


                @LBiege
                That was true 10 years ago, when Linux required a LOT of expertise and the talent
                pool was a lot smaller. Linux is common, mainstream, the talent pool is now about
                equal, the premiums are nowhere near what they used to be. Now, let's look at the
                undisputed difference in cost. Even assuming that it is a one for one servers
                maintained to IT person ratio, the premium is trivial compared to the license costs
                and CALs and cost of feature creep associated with Windows server.

                It think that is actually why, as carefully stated, Windows leads in revenue
                marketshare.

                TripleII




                        Your numbers are abnormally high for the Linux number
                        Mister Spock 2nd Mar 2011
                                                                                                0


           @olePigeon
           It would appear that your math is in error, as Linux is much smaller then the number you
           have chosen.


                Reply




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                           kirovs@... 4th Mar 2011


                @Mister Spock
                Says you and group of Soviet scientists.




                   RE: IDC: Dollarwise, Windows still leads the server market
                   selliott80919 2nd Mar 2011
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        Mary,

        The report references "factory revenue". I would assume that these figures are hardware
        percentage of revenue figures, not software license figures? The fact that Linux is "free"
        isn't relevant to the figures if that is the case.


           Reply




                        NO, it is the revenue from the OS itself. Windows actual
                                                                                                0
                        percentage of the
                        DonnieBoy 2nd Mar 2011


           server market is very low, it is just VERY expensive.


                Reply




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                           noagenda 2nd Mar 2011


                @DonnieBoy

                Apparently in your zeal to discredit all things MS, you didn't get a chance to read the


http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/idc-dollarwise-windows-still-leads-the-server-market/8825             Page 8 / 12
linked IDC report. It is not OS revenue but hardware by OS revenue.
              "?IBM's System z servers running z/OS experienced the second consecutive quarter
              of positive revenue growth, with 69.1% year-over-year growth in 4Q10 to $1.7
              billion. This is the fastest quarterly revenue growth IDC has ever reported for IBM
              mainframes, as systems running the z/OS operating platform accounted for 11.3% of
              all server revenue in 4Q10 and IBM System z was the only platform outside of Linux
              and Windows to experience positive revenue growth in the quarter.
              ?Linux server demand also improved in 4Q10 with revenue growing 29.3% to $2.5
              billion when compared with the fourth quarter of 2009. Linux servers now represent
              17.0% of all server revenue, up 1.8 points over 4Q09. Shipments of servers running
              Linux increased 9.8% year over year, totaling more than 450,000 units.
              ?Microsoft Windows server demand was positively impacted by the x86 server
              market refresh as hardware revenue increased 16.8% year over year. Quarterly
              revenue of $6.3 billion for Windows servers represented 42.1% of overall quarterly
              factory revenue. The 1.5 million server shipments are the highest quarterly total ever
              reported for Windows servers.
              ?UNIX server revenue was relatively flat with a 0.4% decrease when compared to
              4Q09, as the demand for the platform stabilized in the quarter. Worldwide Unix
              revenues were $3.8 billion for the quarter, representing 25.6% of quarterly server
              spending. "




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                        Mythos7 2nd Mar 2011


              @DonnieBoy

              Another brilliant DonnieBoy statement. Windows Servers totally dominate the
              enterprise market.




                        You keep telling yourself that, son
                        Will Farrell 2nd Mar 2011
                                                                                                0


              @DonnieBoy
              and maybe it will come true one day in the real world not the one you decided to
              make and live in.

              The actual Windows usage percentage is FAR AHEAD of actual Linux usage, so just
              deal with it and grow up.




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                        1773 2nd Mar 2011


              @DonnieBoy Are you a MS hater or Google/Linux fan ? How come I see you
              commenting only on Microsoft related posts ? What are your thoughts on spyware
              infested apps making it to the Android Market ?




                        Donnieboy was MIA
                        Will Farrell 2nd Mar 2011
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              @1773
              on the gmail lost data crash. Imagine that. He's looks like he MIA on all the stories
              about Google problems, issues, and failures.

              I guess he ran out of excuses for Google and needs time to build up more, or is tired
              of being embarrased, or maybe both.




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                        kirovs@... 4th Mar 2011


              @noagenda
              Care to normalize by hardware price then? No? I thought so.
              My guess is Unix share is dipping faster than explained, Windows has less and Linux


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more. Of course it is just a guess, but this is what this report is as well.




                   The Linux appologists are out in force once again
                   Will Farrell 2nd Mar 2011
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        So, Windows has the lion share of the market, booth installed base and revenue but I have
        to laugh at the ABM's assertion that Linux is far ahead in actual usage because "its free so
        they can't count it."

        Lol!!!


           Reply




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                         daikon 2nd Mar 2011


           @Will Farrell
           Where do you see any appologists? From what information did you come up with that
           actual Windows usage if far ahead of actual Linux usage?


                 Reply




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                            WilErz 2nd Mar 2011


                 @daikon

                 Mary Jo Foley reported IDC's unit figures for 2010Q1 and 2009Q4 last June, in an
                 article titled "IDC: Windows Server still rules the server roost":

                 Q1 2010 units

                 Windows 1,379,487 (75.3%)
                 Unix 65,451 (3.6%)
                 Linux 380,429 (20.8%)



                 Q4 2009 units

                 Windows 1,434,225 (73.9%)
                 Unix 84,851 ( 4.4%)
                 Linux 412,041 (21.2%)

                 Q1 2010 dollars

                 Windows $5.1 billion (48.9%)
                 Unix $2.3 billion (22.2%)
                 Linux $1.7 billion (16.2%)

                 Q4 2009 dollars

                 Windows $5.4 billion (41.6%)
                 Unix $3.9 billion (29.9%)
                 Linux $1.9 billion (14.7%)

                 As you can see, Windows dominates in terms of server unit shipments.




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                            daikon 2nd Mar 2011


                 @WilErz
                 So you are telling me that Will based his comment of actual Windows usage is ahead
                 of actual Linux usage off this report.




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Hahaha...but...
                     james347 2nd Mar 2011
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          ...not for long. Kiss your sugar daddy good bye!


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             @james347

             They have been saying that for a long time. Maybe it will come come true some year,
             decade or century.


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  • 1. News & Blogs Reviews Downloads Small Business Log In | Join | Site Assistance | Follow via US Edition Companies Hardware Software Mobile Security Research Special Coverage Mobile All About Microsoft RSS Mary-Jo Foley Email Alerts Home / News & Blogs / All About Microsoft IDC: Dollarwise, Windows still leads the server market By Mary Jo Foley | March 2, 2011, 8:35am PST The researchers at International Data Corp. (IDC) released their latest worldwide server market share data this week. As was true in the last quarter of 2009,  Windows servers are far and away the leader in share as measured by of percentage of revenue, the firm found. The best of ZDNet, delivered While Windows’ share was up slightly, to 42.1 percent of server OS share by revenue, Linux was ZDNet Newsletters also up, reaching 17 percent in Q4 2010, according to IDC. Unix’s share was down, hitting 25.6 Get the best of ZDNet delivered straight to your percent share, IDC said. inbox The fast-rising star in the server OS space was IBM’s z/OS mainframe operating system, IDC reported. A year ago, IDC didn’t break out z/OS’s share by revenue, but in the last quarter of 2010, that number was 11.3 percent. b c d e f g ZDNet’s White Paper Membership Newsletter: Stay current with site news Here are the IDC breakouts: and updates from White Papers b c d e f g ZDNet’s Must-Read News Alerts: Server OS share (by percentage of revenue) for Q4 2010 Breaking IT news as it happens z/OS 11.3 Subscribe Today Linux 17.0 Windows 42.1 Unix 25.6 Be a fan on Facebook Server OS share (by percentage of revenue)for Q4 2009 Follow us on Twitter z/OS (not available) Watch us on YouTube Linux 14.7 Windows 41.6 Download our Android app Unix 29.9 Download our iPhone app IDC noted that factory revenues for the fourth quarter of 2010 were up 15.3 percent year over year, to $15.0 billion. Shipments for Q4 2010 hit 2.1 million units. IDC said Q4 2010 marked the highest quarterly revenue in the server market in three years. Sponsored Links Kick off your day with ZDNet's daily e-mail newsletter. It's the freshest tech news and opinion, served hot. Get it. VMware Performance Issues We All Have Them. Find & Fix w/ Performance Analyzer. Free Trial www.VKernel.com/Performance More from “All About Microsoft” It Cloud Storage Accelerating the arrival of Cloud Microsoft brings back the Does Apple's iPad 2 further dent computing that works for IT 'Blackbird' codename Microsoft's iPad compete plans? www.Intel.co.uk/CloudComputing Blogs From Our Sponsors Topics The Over-Hype about Digital Books Revenue, IBM z/OS, International Data Corp., Servers, Microsoft Windows, Operating Systems, Operational Accounting, Utility Computing, Hardware, Software, Finance, Mary Jo Foley Is It the Era of Electronic Signatures? The Problems with Do Not Mail Lists Greener by Mail or Electronically? Mary Jo has covered the tech industry for more than 25 years for a variety of publications and Web sites, and is a frequent guest on radio, TV and podcasts, speaking about all things Microsoft-related. She is the author of Microsoft 2.0: How Microsoft plans to stay relevant in the post-Gates era (John Wiley & Sons, 2008). Vendor Showcase Full Bio Disclosure Contact TECH VISUALIZER Powered by Brocade http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/idc-dollarwise-windows-still-leads-the-server-market/8825 Page 1 / 12
  • 2. Facebook Activity Vendor HotSpot Create an account or log in to see what The 360° Conversation around Cloud Computing Sign Up your friends are doing. TECH VISUALIZER brings the social conversation to life... powered by Brocade Learn More » Related Discussions on TechRepublic Did you know you can take part in these discussions with your ZDNet membership? Hybrid server online. NEW! Ask a Question Start a Discussion 59 Join the conversation! Add Your Opinion Comments Follow via: RSS Email Alert Facebook social plugin Just In Blog Roll RE: IDC: Dollarwise, Windows still leads the server market makrejktt20-24353590937038825154384472573847 Updated - 10th Nov All About Microsoft The Mobile The Apple Core Gadgeteer Between the Lines Mobile News Doing this documenmulberry bags t was actually absolutely in the correct fashion published, and simply tote ., that it transports innumerable essential information. I really thought of Big on Data Networking the actual professed will mean among mulberry bag delivering mulberry shop this unique BriefingsDirect On Sustainability place. Pulp Tech Collaboration 2.0 Consumerization: Reference Desk View in thread BYOD SEO Whistleblower Dev Connection Service Oriented Please Select Please Select Digital Cameras & Small Business Camcorders Matters DIY-IT Smartphones and The Ed Bott Report Cell Phones Is Linux still there? Emerging Tech Social Business jk_10 2nd Mar 2011 0 Enterprise Web Social CRM: The 2.0 Conversation As I said before, while Linux people buzzing Linux share increase, they should realized: Software & Five Nines: The "Linux growth + Unix growth = negative". this is always true. Question is: when Unix is Services Safari Next Gen gone in the planet, where will Linux go? Datacenter Software as Forrester Research Services Reply Friending Storage Bits Facebook Tech Broiler Gamification Tom Foremski: That is revenue percentage, and does not represent server Googling Google IMHO 0 The ToyBox OS market share. GreenTech DonnieBoy 2nd Mar 2011 Pastures Unboxing Asia Hardware 2.0 View from China There are more and more sites using Linux supported by their own internal groups and pay nothing. Just look at the number of servers at Google alone. Home Theater Virtually Speaking Identity Matters ZDNet Education Reply iGeneration ZDNet Government India IT ZDNet Health Irregular Zero Day Enterprise Sure LSE just switched it on IT Project Failures LBiege 2nd Mar 2011 0 Laptops & Desktops ... and look what happened: Flat out crash from week one. Linux and Open Source London Calling That's not True Donnieboy. Companies that do serious 0 Blog Archive business Will Farrell 2nd Mar 2011 March 2012 July 2011 February 2012 June 2011 @DonnieBoy January 2012 May 2011 which is any company will be paying for support, so those numbers are accurate. Maybe a garage based porn site will do it alone, but not the companies that matter. December 2011 April 2011 http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/idc-dollarwise-windows-still-leads-the-server-market/8825 Page 2 / 12
  • 3. November 2011 March 2011 Linux usage in the chart is accurate I have to tell you. October 2011 February 2011 September 2011 January 2011 August 2011 RE: IDC: Dollarwise, Windows still leads the server 0 White Papers, Webcasts, & Resources market WilErz Updated - 2nd Mar 2011 HP DL980 Customer Chronicles Since first introduced to the market, the @DonnieBoy next-generation HP ProLiant ... (Hewlett- Packard (HP)) The IDC figures refer to server revenue, not to OS revenue. If a firm plan to run Linux Download Now on a server, they've still got the buy the hardware, and they bloody well aren't going GE Healthcare Case Study to buy it with Windows Server or Unix installed. They're going to buy it either with GE Centricity EDI, part of GE Healthcare Linux installed or with nothing installed. (Note that the figures only add up to 96 per IT's Centricity portfolio ... (Hewlett-Packard cent, leaving 4 per cent for servers shipped with other OSes or no OS). (HP)) Download Now 2012 Cloud Storage Survey What is your cloud level? WilErz, are you sure about the numbers? Richard Flude 2nd Mar 2011 0 It's probably no secret to you, data ... (Oracle) "They're going to buy it either with Linux installed or with nothing installed. (Note Download Now that the figures only add up to 96 per cent, leaving 4 per cent for servers shipped with other OSes or no OS)." Far greater the 4% of x86 / x64 servers ship with no OS. I don't believe your definition is correct. The figures appear to count only those with an OS installed (4% being other). RE: IDC: Dollarwise, Windows still leads the server 0 market WilErz Updated - 3rd Mar 2011 @ Richard Flude According to Channel Register, IDC include servers shipped with no operating system. However, they have a method of guesstimating which operating systems are installed. The method isn't specified, but an obvious one would be to survey a random sample of customers provided by the vendors, asking which OSes they installed on their recently purchased servers. So, I was wrong. The IDC figures do indeed include servers that ship without an OS, as I thought, but most of these servers aren't assigned to the 'other' category. Rather, they're assigned to categories according to an internal IDC estimation procedure. The key points stand that: (a) the figures refer to server hardware revenue, (b) Linux requires hardware, (c) servers that ship with no OS installed are included in the figures. So, unless IDC are conspiring against Linux (I'm sure some zealots will claim this), there's no reason at all to believe that the IDC figures understate Linux's share of server shipment revenue (or unit shipments when unit figures are available, as in Mary Jo Foley's article last June, which I refer to below). RE: IDC: Dollarwise, Windows still leads the server 0 market daikon 2nd Mar 2011 @jk_10 What does Linux have to do with Unix? Reply Obivious... jk_10 2nd Mar 2011 0 @daikon Linux is there only because of existence of Unix (don't think I have to explain). Imagine Unix is gone, zero, will Linux still have a share? where will it go? http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/idc-dollarwise-windows-still-leads-the-server-market/8825 Page 3 / 12
  • 4. up? down? RE: IDC: Dollarwise, Windows still leads the server 0 market daikon 2nd Mar 2011 jk_10, Linux will always have a share. jk_10: The market share of Workloads handled by 0 Linux / Unix is going up. DonnieBoy 2nd Mar 2011 It is just the revenue share that is going down, because of the ease of internal groups supporting supporting Linux without having to pay for the OS. This only shows how expensive Windows servers are. I can tell you where it went in our shop terry flores 2nd Mar 2011 0 @jk_10 My major project last year was standing up a 1000-core HPC cluster running Linux, done 1.5 months ahead of schedule, total software cost $485 (some monitoring app that our architect was in love with). On the Windows side we decommissioned 8 Windows systems, or about 20 percent of our remaining M$ server boxes. Reply She was careful to repeat "in terms of revenue" TripleII-21189418044173169409978279405827 2nd Mar 2011 0 @jk_10 Since a paid for server is typically 1/3 the price of the Windows equivalent, and of course the massive base of "free" servers installed via local IT, in terms of marketshare, Windows server is not growing nearly as fast. Your statement about Linux is eating Unix is very 2004ish. Linux was a natural replacement for Unix at their EOL, but with the ease of implementing Linux servers today, it is pretty easy to replace Windows now once the proprietary shackles are dealt with. TripleII Reply RE: IDC: Dollarwise, Windows still leads the server 0 market WilErz 2nd Mar 2011 @TripleII In terms of volume, Windows Server has an even higher market share. Unix is typically used on very expensive hardware, and as users of this hardware migrate to Linux, this adds a lot to the Linux revenue share but very little to the Linux unit share. RE: IDC: Dollarwise, Windows still leads the server 0 market WilErz 2nd Mar 2011 @ Richard Flude http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/idc-dollarwise-windows-still-leads-the-server-market/8825 Page 4 / 12
  • 5. I refer you to Mary Jo Foley's article from last June, 'IDC: Windows Server still rules the server roost'. In it, she explains that the IDC percentages don't add up to 100 because IDC include an unspecified 'other' category. She also includes unit shipments (for 2009Q4 and 2010Q1), which show that Windows is even more dominant in unit terms than in revenue terms. Reply Right. Figure doesn't include servers shipped with no 0 OS Richard Flude 3rd Mar 2011 There's a significant proportion of servers (much greater than 4%) where OS is installed onsite. Including windows volume license and site license customers. RE: IDC: Dollarwise, Windows still leads the server 0 market WilErz 3rd Mar 2011 @Richard Flude According to whom? Revenue costs of a Free system T o m 6 29th Mar 0 usage would be a more useful method of comparing a free system (linux) against one that charges (Windows). Obviously the one that always charges has higher revenue than one that doesn't. A classic case of misinformation through useless stats. Regards from Tom Reply The article may be true, but ... terry flores 2nd Mar 2011 0 The license "revenue" from our 28 Windows servers was more than the "revenue" from our 840 Linux servers, since the license cost for the 840 servers was zero. If the intent of the article was to point out the higher cost for Windows servers, I guess that's true. Reply Yes, you hit the nail on the head. The percentage of 0 workloads handled by DonnieBoy 2nd Mar 2011 Windows is very low, but, for the small niches where Windows server is used, they are paying through the nose. Reply RE: IDC: Dollarwise, Windows still leads the server 0 market condelirios 2nd Mar 2011 @DonnieBoy Niches? HUH? Windows dominates in the server market. It isn't even close. 40% market share in this space is huge. Competing with free OS Linux, and the Traditional Unix servers and winning is what Windows is doing. Niche = Linux in both servers and desktops. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/idc-dollarwise-windows-still-leads-the-server-market/8825 Page 5 / 12
  • 6. Think 0 Tim Patterson 2nd Mar 2011 @conde... Use your brain. "as a percentage of revenue" This does not tell us how many servers are in operation nor their OSs. Many thousands of Linux installs were free. Have a few good Linux guys? No need to pay Redhat or Novell. Of course this won't count in IDC's silly little "percentage of revenue" survey. Still buying boatloads of Windows servers honeymonster 2nd Mar 2011 0 @terry flores Customers obviously find that Windows gives them value for money. Otherwise they would not buy Windows servers. Reply RE: IDC: Dollarwise, Windows still leads the server 0 market itguy08 2nd Mar 2011 @honeymonster 1. They don't know better. 2. If you pull Windows servers out, watch your OS license go up. Or you will get a visit from the BSA goons... MS has resorted to #2 quite a few times. I didn't say anything negative about Windows terry flores 2nd Mar 2011 0 @honeymonster As you point out, there are many customers who find Windows Servers suitable for their purposes and budgets. Microsoft is in no danger of going out of business. I just pointed out that you have to be careful when making comparisons between marketshare based on different metrics like units shipped or revenues. itguy08 likes spewing BS 0 Will Farrell 2nd Mar 2011 @itguy08 everything you say is one big lie, so just grow up or go home. You are nothing but a boldface lier. MS can continue to compete against Linux P. Douglas 2nd Mar 2011 0 @terry flores, As long as MS continues to differentiate Windows server from Linux on core and expanded features, as well as on overall abilities, ease-of-use, and value, Windows server can continue to grow and compete against Linux. (It's not all about price, or else Apple would be a failure in the computer market today.) E.g. having software which allows you to use 3D visualization to zoom in and out, and see what's going on your http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/idc-dollarwise-windows-still-leads-the-server-market/8825 Page 6 / 12
  • 7. whole network, would be fantastic! Reply You need 840 Linux servers to do the work of 28 0 Windows servers? Will Farrell Updated - 2nd Mar 2011 @terry flores That's just insane. Reply Is this an attempt at humor? terry flores Updated - 3rd Mar 2011 0 @Will Farrell If it was, I pity you. If it wasn't, I pity you even more. The two projects are unrelated. We have been phasing out Windows as a server platform for the last two years after our licensing costs from Microsoft skyrocketed. Is the hardware free too? 0 WilErz 2nd Mar 2011 @terry flores You'd have a point if the figures referred to OS licence revenue, rather than to server hardware revenue. Reply Mean averages from IDC, Gartner, and Netcraft... olePigeon 2nd Mar 2011 0 Mean averages from IDC, Gartner, and Netcraft put usage marketshare at approximately: Windows: 41.59% Linux: 41.02% UNIX: 5.54% So with Linux at roughly 41% of the usage share but only 17% of the revenue share, Windows looks to be very expensive (but not as expensive as UNIX.) Reply These are also only a percentage of websites using a given 0 OS. The biggest DonnieBoy 2nd Mar 2011 sites use Linux / Unix almost exclusively. So, if there were a way to measure the percentage of workloads handled by Linux, it would be very high. It is mostly just small websites using Windows. Reply The article omitted the obnoxious fee Linux LBiege 2nd Mar 2011 0 ... administrators charge you when deciphering those 500 command-line arguments that http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/idc-dollarwise-windows-still-leads-the-server-market/8825 Page 7 / 12
  • 8. you don't run into in a Windows environment. The TCO of Linux is exorbitant. Reply Not anymore. TripleII-21189418044173169409978279405827 2nd Mar 2011 0 @LBiege That was true 10 years ago, when Linux required a LOT of expertise and the talent pool was a lot smaller. Linux is common, mainstream, the talent pool is now about equal, the premiums are nowhere near what they used to be. Now, let's look at the undisputed difference in cost. Even assuming that it is a one for one servers maintained to IT person ratio, the premium is trivial compared to the license costs and CALs and cost of feature creep associated with Windows server. It think that is actually why, as carefully stated, Windows leads in revenue marketshare. TripleII Your numbers are abnormally high for the Linux number Mister Spock 2nd Mar 2011 0 @olePigeon It would appear that your math is in error, as Linux is much smaller then the number you have chosen. Reply RE: IDC: Dollarwise, Windows still leads the server 0 market kirovs@... 4th Mar 2011 @Mister Spock Says you and group of Soviet scientists. RE: IDC: Dollarwise, Windows still leads the server market selliott80919 2nd Mar 2011 0 Mary, The report references "factory revenue". I would assume that these figures are hardware percentage of revenue figures, not software license figures? The fact that Linux is "free" isn't relevant to the figures if that is the case. Reply NO, it is the revenue from the OS itself. Windows actual 0 percentage of the DonnieBoy 2nd Mar 2011 server market is very low, it is just VERY expensive. Reply RE: IDC: Dollarwise, Windows still leads the server 0 market noagenda 2nd Mar 2011 @DonnieBoy Apparently in your zeal to discredit all things MS, you didn't get a chance to read the http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/idc-dollarwise-windows-still-leads-the-server-market/8825 Page 8 / 12
  • 9. linked IDC report. It is not OS revenue but hardware by OS revenue. "?IBM's System z servers running z/OS experienced the second consecutive quarter of positive revenue growth, with 69.1% year-over-year growth in 4Q10 to $1.7 billion. This is the fastest quarterly revenue growth IDC has ever reported for IBM mainframes, as systems running the z/OS operating platform accounted for 11.3% of all server revenue in 4Q10 and IBM System z was the only platform outside of Linux and Windows to experience positive revenue growth in the quarter. ?Linux server demand also improved in 4Q10 with revenue growing 29.3% to $2.5 billion when compared with the fourth quarter of 2009. Linux servers now represent 17.0% of all server revenue, up 1.8 points over 4Q09. Shipments of servers running Linux increased 9.8% year over year, totaling more than 450,000 units. ?Microsoft Windows server demand was positively impacted by the x86 server market refresh as hardware revenue increased 16.8% year over year. Quarterly revenue of $6.3 billion for Windows servers represented 42.1% of overall quarterly factory revenue. The 1.5 million server shipments are the highest quarterly total ever reported for Windows servers. ?UNIX server revenue was relatively flat with a 0.4% decrease when compared to 4Q09, as the demand for the platform stabilized in the quarter. Worldwide Unix revenues were $3.8 billion for the quarter, representing 25.6% of quarterly server spending. " RE: IDC: Dollarwise, Windows still leads the server 0 market Mythos7 2nd Mar 2011 @DonnieBoy Another brilliant DonnieBoy statement. Windows Servers totally dominate the enterprise market. You keep telling yourself that, son Will Farrell 2nd Mar 2011 0 @DonnieBoy and maybe it will come true one day in the real world not the one you decided to make and live in. The actual Windows usage percentage is FAR AHEAD of actual Linux usage, so just deal with it and grow up. RE: IDC: Dollarwise, Windows still leads the server 0 market 1773 2nd Mar 2011 @DonnieBoy Are you a MS hater or Google/Linux fan ? How come I see you commenting only on Microsoft related posts ? What are your thoughts on spyware infested apps making it to the Android Market ? Donnieboy was MIA Will Farrell 2nd Mar 2011 0 @1773 on the gmail lost data crash. Imagine that. He's looks like he MIA on all the stories about Google problems, issues, and failures. I guess he ran out of excuses for Google and needs time to build up more, or is tired of being embarrased, or maybe both. RE: IDC: Dollarwise, Windows still leads the server 0 market kirovs@... 4th Mar 2011 @noagenda Care to normalize by hardware price then? No? I thought so. My guess is Unix share is dipping faster than explained, Windows has less and Linux http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/idc-dollarwise-windows-still-leads-the-server-market/8825 Page 9 / 12
  • 10. more. Of course it is just a guess, but this is what this report is as well. The Linux appologists are out in force once again Will Farrell 2nd Mar 2011 0 So, Windows has the lion share of the market, booth installed base and revenue but I have to laugh at the ABM's assertion that Linux is far ahead in actual usage because "its free so they can't count it." Lol!!! Reply RE: IDC: Dollarwise, Windows still leads the server 0 market daikon 2nd Mar 2011 @Will Farrell Where do you see any appologists? From what information did you come up with that actual Windows usage if far ahead of actual Linux usage? Reply RE: IDC: Dollarwise, Windows still leads the server 0 market WilErz 2nd Mar 2011 @daikon Mary Jo Foley reported IDC's unit figures for 2010Q1 and 2009Q4 last June, in an article titled "IDC: Windows Server still rules the server roost": Q1 2010 units Windows 1,379,487 (75.3%) Unix 65,451 (3.6%) Linux 380,429 (20.8%) Q4 2009 units Windows 1,434,225 (73.9%) Unix 84,851 ( 4.4%) Linux 412,041 (21.2%) Q1 2010 dollars Windows $5.1 billion (48.9%) Unix $2.3 billion (22.2%) Linux $1.7 billion (16.2%) Q4 2009 dollars Windows $5.4 billion (41.6%) Unix $3.9 billion (29.9%) Linux $1.9 billion (14.7%) As you can see, Windows dominates in terms of server unit shipments. RE: IDC: Dollarwise, Windows still leads the server 0 market daikon 2nd Mar 2011 @WilErz So you are telling me that Will based his comment of actual Windows usage is ahead of actual Linux usage off this report. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/idc-dollarwise-windows-still-leads-the-server-market/8825 Page 10 / 12
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