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The Truth About
Sales & Marketing
          Who Works for Whom?
         Presented by Tom Marx – President
                           The Marx Group
                             October 29, 2012
 ©2012 The Marx Group
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Q:          How many of you are part of the sales team?
            The marketing team? Or both?




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They so don’t
    get it!                                        If they would only give us
SALES SUCKS!                                         materials we can use.
                                                      MARKETING SUCKS!




       Marketing & Sales Teams

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The Conflict Between
Marketing & Sales
 1.   Tension between teams
 2.   Missed goals
 3.   Duplication of effort
 4.   Work done over and over
 5.   Wasted Money
 6.   Work not leveraged




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How does this
happen?
Lack of Communication Building Silos
Undefined Goals Missing Plans
Misunderstanding of Roles
Unreported Metrics
Missing Processes




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Q:                     What are the current issues
                                              your team is facing?




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Work as a SINGLE Team!




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Outline a rationale and

GOAL:                      process to get SALES and
                           MARKETING to work
                           more effectively toward the
                           SAME GOALS


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DEFINED
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Q:   Can you define
                                 EACH role?




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Sales
 GOAL: Increase sales & enhance
 customer and prospect relationships!




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Sales
ROLE:
• Increase revenue
• Bring in new prospects
• Conversion from prospect to lead
    Prospect -> lead -> customer -> happier customer
• Articulate brand values to contacts
• Provide marketing with sales numbers and statistics
• Provide feedback to marketing
• Understand the target audience
• Represent the company at industry events




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Marketing
GOAL: Support the sales force!




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Marketing
ROLE:
• Develop the company story
• Design marketing materials and
  programs that reach the target audience
• Media that creates prospects, leads and
  customers
• Build brand awareness
• Generate leads
• Support sales team throughout
  the sales process

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Who works for whom?




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Who works for whom?
MARKETING WORKS FOR SALES
However…
It’s not about hierarchy or power…it’s
about collaboration, coordination and
cooperation


                                          MARKETING

                             SALES



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SALES & MARKETING
Playbook
 Create a program that will eliminate the silos
 and supports the collaboration between sales
 and marketing.




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Playbook 101
Rally | Rules | Roles | Plays



 Hold a kick-off meeting
   • Before the “season” begins
   • Take time to set goals
   • Review past efforts – what did/didn’t work?


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Playbook 101
Rally | Rules | Roles | Plays



 Agree on the “rules”
 that each player must
 follow




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Playbook 101
Rally | Rules | Roles | Plays



Define the part every
player will take on within
the team and in each play




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Playbook 101
Rally | Rules | Roles | Plays



                            Define a set of
                            moves needed to
                            reach the goals




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Playbook 101

Rally
1.   Prepare
2.   Hold a meeting               The goal is not to point fingers,
3.   Review and analyze           but to objectively review what
4.   Set goals                    is working and not working and
5.   Define metrics               to find ways to SOLVE the
                                  problem, OR discover areas of
                                  opportunity or improvement




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Playbook 101

Rally
1.   Prepare                 Your rally can’t succeed unless you’re
2.   Hold a meeting          prepared! Gather the following:
3.   Review & analyze        • Prior years’ sales results
4.   Set goals               • Prior marketing efforts
                             • Metrics (results) of sales and
5.   Define metrics
                                marketing efforts
                             • Goals for the upcoming year




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Playbook 101

Rally
1.   Prepare                 Call an ALL-DAY meeting and invite key
2.   Hold a meeting          sales and marketing team members,
3.   Review & analyze        including those in the field. Make sure
4.   Set goals               it is:
5.   Define metrics          • SECURE
                                   (no distractions!)
                             • NONJUDGEMENTAL
                                   (safe to express concerns
                                   and solutions)
                             • FOCUSED
                                   (on solutions)


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Playbook 101

Rally
1.   Prepare
                             Sample Agenda
                             • Welcome – define goal of meeting
                             • Sales Report
                                  • Metrics
2.   Hold a meeting               • Initiatives & programs
                                  • Successes & failures
3.   Review & analyze        • Marketing Report
4.   Set goals                    • Metrics
5.   Define metrics               • Marketing programs
                                  • Successes & failures
                             • Goal Setting and Alignment
                             • Brainstorming Session
                             • Planning
                             • Action items




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Playbook 101

Rally
1.   Prepare
                             REVIEW sales and marketing metrics.
                             Look at what did and didn’t work and
                             determine WHY
2.   Hold a meeting
3.   Review & analyze        DETERMINE which initiatives are
4.   Set goals               important for the coming season
5.   Define metrics
                             ANALYZE current sales to determine
                             areas where you are missing exposure




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Playbook 101
                             Sample items you might uncover:


Rally
1.   Prepare
                             • 75% of your new business came from
                              internet sales – yet only 20% of your
                              marketing efforts focused on digital
                              marketing
2.   Hold a meeting
3.   Review & analyze        • The majority of your marketing efforts
                               focused on a product line that had
4.   Set goals                 dismal sales.
5.   Define metrics               ― Not a good product?
                                  ― Sales team not focused
                                     on product?
                                  ― Wrong target audience?




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Playbook 101

Rally
1.   Prepare
                             Set goals and make sure both teams are
                             aligned – for both the actual goal and
                             everyone’s role in making it happen
2.   Hold a meeting
                             Example:
3.   Review & analyze
4.   Set goals               •Increase client base by 50%
                                  SALES ROLE: each sales person is
5.   Define metrics
                                  responsible for bringing in 25 new
                                  customers
                                    MARKETING ROLE: develop marketing
                                    materials that will generate leads –
                                    online marketing, competitive product
                                    analysis, sales presentations



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Playbook 101                 To determine if you have successfully met
                             your goals, you will need measurable

Rally
1.   Prepare
                             yardsticks. Both sales and marketing must
                             agree upon METRICS that will help them meet
                             their goals.

2.   Hold a meeting          Example:

3.   Review & analyze        Tradeshow Metrics
4.   Set goals               Tradeshow participation can be costly. Knowing
                             how much is spent on sales and marketing can
5.   Define metrics          help ensure shows are appropriate and successful.
                             Report the following:

                             SALES: Expenses, leads generated, tracking actual
                             sales
                             MARKETING: Expenses, time spent on
                             developing materials



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Playbook 101

Rules
                            Example:
                            1. Changes in sales or marketing plans
                               must be reported to both teams
                            2. Detailed reports of tradeshows,
Every team works from
                               sales pitches, etc. must be
a rulebook. Sales and          presented to both teams
Marketing need to           3. Monthly meetings will be held
develop guidelines they     4. Sales and marketing must work
will both follow.              together in the development of
                               marketing plans, strategies,
                               marketing materials, etc.
                            5. Teams must report what does and
                               does not work
                            6. Be open-minded to new ideas
                            7. Allow problems to be fixed
                            8. Recognize success


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Playbook 101

Roles
SALES:
• Increase sales
• Bring in new prospects
• Be the company’s representative

MARKETING:
• Support sales team though the sales process
• Develop the company story
• Build brand awareness



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Playbook 101

Plays
Plays – required actions -- must
be developed to support the
overall company goal.
Each play must state, in addition
to the action:
1. The PLAYERS
2. Their ROLES
3. Your METRICS



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Playbook 101

Play                      EXAMPLE


   Increase the revenue in the “X”
  product line by 150% by July 15th



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Playbook 101

Play                      EXAMPLE

 PLAYERS and ROLES:

 • Sales – Push product through to customers and prospects

 • Marketing – Build brand awareness, develop marketing materials to
   support the push-through




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Playbook 101

Play                      EXAMPLE

 METRICS:

 • Sales – Sell $1,000 per month of the new product to at least 20%
   of existing customers

 • Marketing – Drive 200 new leads to the web page for the new
   product each month




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Playbook 101
                                   Example:

Plays
PLAYERS and ROLES:
                                   PLAY:
                                   Increase the traffic at “X” trade show


Sales – Increase prospect database; pin point prospects you would like to attend.
Personally invite prospects to attend

Marketing – develop a strategy that includes multiple touch points for the sales
teams prospects that will attract new prospects to booth
METRICS:
Sales – Number of prospects invited to booth. Clear record of who attended and
post follow-up results.

Marketing – Number of touch-points developed for the sales team and the results of
other marketing initiatives.




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A Good Team Player can:
1.   Increase collaboration
2.   Assist in budgeting time
3.   Enhance harmony
4.   Improve mutual respect
5.   Boost sales
6.   Create better efficiencies
7.   Enable successful programs
8.   Decrease friction
9.   Make better use of everyone’s time




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Marketing
    +
 Sales
       Implement a program that will bring SALES and MARKETING
              together and make this your best year yet!




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THANK YOU!

                                    TOM MARX
                          tmarx@themarxgrp.com
                              415.453.0844 x106

        Subscribe to our monthly newsletter Catalyst for marketing insights.
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Sema sales and-marketing

  • 1. The Truth About Sales & Marketing Who Works for Whom? Presented by Tom Marx – President The Marx Group October 29, 2012 ©2012 The Marx Group 1
  • 2. ©2012 The Marx Group ©2012 The Marx Group 2
  • 3. Q: How many of you are part of the sales team? The marketing team? Or both? ©2012 The Marx Group ©2012 The Marx Group 3
  • 4. They so don’t get it! If they would only give us SALES SUCKS! materials we can use. MARKETING SUCKS! Marketing & Sales Teams ©2012 The Marx Group ©2012 The Marx Group 4
  • 5. The Conflict Between Marketing & Sales 1. Tension between teams 2. Missed goals 3. Duplication of effort 4. Work done over and over 5. Wasted Money 6. Work not leveraged ©2012 The Marx Group 5
  • 6. How does this happen? Lack of Communication Building Silos Undefined Goals Missing Plans Misunderstanding of Roles Unreported Metrics Missing Processes ©2012 The Marx Group 6
  • 7. Q: What are the current issues your team is facing? ©2012 The Marx Group ©2012 The Marx Group 7
  • 8. Work as a SINGLE Team! ©2012 The Marx Group 8
  • 9. Outline a rationale and GOAL: process to get SALES and MARKETING to work more effectively toward the SAME GOALS ©2012 The Marx Group 9
  • 11. Q: Can you define EACH role? ©2012 The Marx Group 11
  • 12. Sales GOAL: Increase sales & enhance customer and prospect relationships! ©2012 The Marx Group 12
  • 13. Sales ROLE: • Increase revenue • Bring in new prospects • Conversion from prospect to lead Prospect -> lead -> customer -> happier customer • Articulate brand values to contacts • Provide marketing with sales numbers and statistics • Provide feedback to marketing • Understand the target audience • Represent the company at industry events ©2012 The Marx Group 13
  • 14. Marketing GOAL: Support the sales force! ©2012 The Marx Group 14
  • 15. Marketing ROLE: • Develop the company story • Design marketing materials and programs that reach the target audience • Media that creates prospects, leads and customers • Build brand awareness • Generate leads • Support sales team throughout the sales process ©2012 The Marx Group 15
  • 16. Who works for whom? ©2012 The Marx Group 16
  • 17. Who works for whom? MARKETING WORKS FOR SALES However… It’s not about hierarchy or power…it’s about collaboration, coordination and cooperation MARKETING SALES ©2012 The Marx Group 17
  • 18. SALES & MARKETING Playbook Create a program that will eliminate the silos and supports the collaboration between sales and marketing. ©2012 The Marx Group 18
  • 19. Playbook 101 Rally | Rules | Roles | Plays Hold a kick-off meeting • Before the “season” begins • Take time to set goals • Review past efforts – what did/didn’t work? ©2012 The Marx Group 19
  • 20. Playbook 101 Rally | Rules | Roles | Plays Agree on the “rules” that each player must follow ©2012 The Marx Group 20
  • 21. Playbook 101 Rally | Rules | Roles | Plays Define the part every player will take on within the team and in each play ©2012 The Marx Group 21
  • 22. Playbook 101 Rally | Rules | Roles | Plays Define a set of moves needed to reach the goals ©2012 The Marx Group 22
  • 23. Playbook 101 Rally 1. Prepare 2. Hold a meeting The goal is not to point fingers, 3. Review and analyze but to objectively review what 4. Set goals is working and not working and 5. Define metrics to find ways to SOLVE the problem, OR discover areas of opportunity or improvement ©2012 The Marx Group 23
  • 24. Playbook 101 Rally 1. Prepare Your rally can’t succeed unless you’re 2. Hold a meeting prepared! Gather the following: 3. Review & analyze • Prior years’ sales results 4. Set goals • Prior marketing efforts • Metrics (results) of sales and 5. Define metrics marketing efforts • Goals for the upcoming year ©2012 The Marx Group 24
  • 25. Playbook 101 Rally 1. Prepare Call an ALL-DAY meeting and invite key 2. Hold a meeting sales and marketing team members, 3. Review & analyze including those in the field. Make sure 4. Set goals it is: 5. Define metrics • SECURE (no distractions!) • NONJUDGEMENTAL (safe to express concerns and solutions) • FOCUSED (on solutions) ©2012 The Marx Group 25
  • 26. Playbook 101 Rally 1. Prepare Sample Agenda • Welcome – define goal of meeting • Sales Report • Metrics 2. Hold a meeting • Initiatives & programs • Successes & failures 3. Review & analyze • Marketing Report 4. Set goals • Metrics 5. Define metrics • Marketing programs • Successes & failures • Goal Setting and Alignment • Brainstorming Session • Planning • Action items ©2012 The Marx Group 26
  • 27. Playbook 101 Rally 1. Prepare REVIEW sales and marketing metrics. Look at what did and didn’t work and determine WHY 2. Hold a meeting 3. Review & analyze DETERMINE which initiatives are 4. Set goals important for the coming season 5. Define metrics ANALYZE current sales to determine areas where you are missing exposure ©2012 The Marx Group 27
  • 28. Playbook 101 Sample items you might uncover: Rally 1. Prepare • 75% of your new business came from internet sales – yet only 20% of your marketing efforts focused on digital marketing 2. Hold a meeting 3. Review & analyze • The majority of your marketing efforts focused on a product line that had 4. Set goals dismal sales. 5. Define metrics ― Not a good product? ― Sales team not focused on product? ― Wrong target audience? ©2012 The Marx Group 28
  • 29. Playbook 101 Rally 1. Prepare Set goals and make sure both teams are aligned – for both the actual goal and everyone’s role in making it happen 2. Hold a meeting Example: 3. Review & analyze 4. Set goals •Increase client base by 50% SALES ROLE: each sales person is 5. Define metrics responsible for bringing in 25 new customers MARKETING ROLE: develop marketing materials that will generate leads – online marketing, competitive product analysis, sales presentations ©2012 The Marx Group 29
  • 30. Playbook 101 To determine if you have successfully met your goals, you will need measurable Rally 1. Prepare yardsticks. Both sales and marketing must agree upon METRICS that will help them meet their goals. 2. Hold a meeting Example: 3. Review & analyze Tradeshow Metrics 4. Set goals Tradeshow participation can be costly. Knowing how much is spent on sales and marketing can 5. Define metrics help ensure shows are appropriate and successful. Report the following: SALES: Expenses, leads generated, tracking actual sales MARKETING: Expenses, time spent on developing materials ©2012 The Marx Group 30
  • 31. Playbook 101 Rules Example: 1. Changes in sales or marketing plans must be reported to both teams 2. Detailed reports of tradeshows, Every team works from sales pitches, etc. must be a rulebook. Sales and presented to both teams Marketing need to 3. Monthly meetings will be held develop guidelines they 4. Sales and marketing must work will both follow. together in the development of marketing plans, strategies, marketing materials, etc. 5. Teams must report what does and does not work 6. Be open-minded to new ideas 7. Allow problems to be fixed 8. Recognize success ©2012 The Marx Group 31
  • 32. Playbook 101 Roles SALES: • Increase sales • Bring in new prospects • Be the company’s representative MARKETING: • Support sales team though the sales process • Develop the company story • Build brand awareness ©2012 The Marx Group 32
  • 33. Playbook 101 Plays Plays – required actions -- must be developed to support the overall company goal. Each play must state, in addition to the action: 1. The PLAYERS 2. Their ROLES 3. Your METRICS ©2012 The Marx Group 33
  • 34. Playbook 101 Play EXAMPLE Increase the revenue in the “X” product line by 150% by July 15th ©2012 The Marx Group 34
  • 35. Playbook 101 Play EXAMPLE PLAYERS and ROLES: • Sales – Push product through to customers and prospects • Marketing – Build brand awareness, develop marketing materials to support the push-through ©2012 The Marx Group 35
  • 36. Playbook 101 Play EXAMPLE METRICS: • Sales – Sell $1,000 per month of the new product to at least 20% of existing customers • Marketing – Drive 200 new leads to the web page for the new product each month ©2012 The Marx Group 36
  • 37. Playbook 101 Example: Plays PLAYERS and ROLES: PLAY: Increase the traffic at “X” trade show Sales – Increase prospect database; pin point prospects you would like to attend. Personally invite prospects to attend Marketing – develop a strategy that includes multiple touch points for the sales teams prospects that will attract new prospects to booth METRICS: Sales – Number of prospects invited to booth. Clear record of who attended and post follow-up results. Marketing – Number of touch-points developed for the sales team and the results of other marketing initiatives. ©2012 The Marx Group 37
  • 38. A Good Team Player can: 1. Increase collaboration 2. Assist in budgeting time 3. Enhance harmony 4. Improve mutual respect 5. Boost sales 6. Create better efficiencies 7. Enable successful programs 8. Decrease friction 9. Make better use of everyone’s time ©2012 The Marx Group 38
  • 39. Marketing + Sales Implement a program that will bring SALES and MARKETING together and make this your best year yet! ©2012 The Marx Group 39
  • 40. THANK YOU! TOM MARX tmarx@themarxgrp.com 415.453.0844 x106 Subscribe to our monthly newsletter Catalyst for marketing insights. www.themarxgrp.com CREATIVE AND ACCOUNT TEAMS Northern California | New York | Chicago Los Angeles | Detroit | Nashville | Denver ©2012 The Marx Group 40