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selling into uncharted 
territory 
[and the market majority] 
Ash Alhashim 
Director of Sales Development 
Optimizely
Abstract 
New ideas and technologies are being introduced to the world at an ever-increasing 
rate, changing the way people communicate, travel, and do business. Sales 
has traditionally focused on taking market share away from competitor products, but as 
the pace of new technology creation accelerates, more and more companies are working 
to distribute their products by creating new markets. The purpose of this presentation is 
to offer these types of companies a new sales discovery framework that is better suited 
for the type of conversation you will be having with prospects who are in the 
“unconscious incompetence” stage of learning [in other words, individuals who not only 
don’t know about what you do, but do not recognize the learning deficit]. 
If your technology is creating a new market, then following traditional sales advice 
(SPIN, BANT, etc.) that is geared towards “rip and replace” selling will severely impair 
your distribution strategy once you’ve moved past selling to early adopters. Once you 
start selling to the market majority, it will be time to move towards a GRO-ROI selling 
model focused on learning about your customers’ objectives and strategies for 
accomplishing them, and then teaching them how your product can help them get there 
in ways they probably have not considered. 
Happy reading, 
Ash
let’s talk about death :-(
Dr. Ignaz Semmelweis 
● 19th century Hungarian physician 
● Drastically cut childbed fever mortality 
rates by introducing hand sanitization 
to the childbirth process 
● The medical community rejected his 
claims, offended by his suggestion that 
they were responsible for their 
patients’ high mortality rates 
● Was admitted into an insane asylum at 
47, died two weeks later 
● Germ theory discovered by Louis 
Pasteur just years after his death, 
validated his claims posthumously
Moral of the story: 
“Selling a solution to a problem that is 
not understood greatly increases the 
likelihood of failure. “
#imdepressednow #thesepeoplearetheworst
in nascent markets, “BANT” based sales 
discovery processes are incongruent 
with market maturity levels
what’s wrong with BANT? 
Budget, Authority, Need, Timeline 
● looks for buyers already 60-70% through the buying 
process 
● works well for customers that have already identified a 
need for your type of product
so, BANT is still relevant 
but it belongs further down 
the sales cycle
so what framework do we use for discovery?
the law of diffusion of innovation 
[we’re here] 
Everett Rogers
crossing the chasm 
The Chasm
Once you’ve captured the 
early adopters, your customer 
profile will change
therefore, you must change 
the way we communicate if 
you hope to capture the 
market majority
[which is the only way for your 
company to survive on the 
long-term]
so how do you move 
prospects down the sales 
cycle?
the four stages of learning
In psychology, the four stages of competence, or the 
"conscious competence" learning model, relates to the 
psychological states involved in the process of progressing 
from incompetence to competence in a skill.
unconscious incompetence 
The individual does not understand or 
know how to do something and does 
not necessarily recognize the deficit. 
They may deny the usefulness of the 
skill. 
The individual must recognize their 
own incompetence, and the value of 
the new skill, before moving on to the 
next stage.
conscious incompetence 
Though the individual does not 
understand or know how to do 
something, he or she does 
recognize the deficit, as well as the 
value of a new skill in addressing 
the deficit. The making of mistakes 
can be integral to the learning 
process at this stage.
the journey of learning 
Conscious 
incompetence 
Sales approach 
BANT 
Unconscious 
incompetence 
Sales approach: 
Challenger
conscious competence 
The individual understands or knows 
how to do something. However, 
demonstrating the skill or knowledge 
requires conscious effort.
the journey of learning 
Conscious 
incompetence 
Sales approach 
BANT 
Unconscious 
incompetence 
Sales approach: 
Challenger 
Conscious 
Competence 
Success approach: 
Enablement 
Project Mgmt
unconscious competence 
The individual has had so much 
practice with a skill that it has become 
"second nature" and can be 
performed easily.
the journey of learning 
Conscious 
incompetence 
Sales approach 
BANT 
Unconscious 
incompetence 
Sales approach: 
Story Leader + 
Challenger 
Conscious 
Competence 
Success approach: 
Enablement 
Project Mgmt 
Unconscious 
competence 
Success approach: 
Ongoing training 
Persuasion Participation
learn → teach → prove 
In order to effectively persuade 
[prove], we must first gain an 
understanding of the domain of 
our prospect [learn], and 
challenge him/her to think 
about their business through a 
different lens [teach].
LEARN TEACH 
Goals Roadmap Obstacles Reference Outcomes Impact
LEARN TEACH 
While the previous slide presented these steps in a straight line, we must note that the discovery 
process is non-linear. At any point during the learn process, a salesperson may be presented with 
the opportunity to teach. 
Think of it the following way:
LEARN TEACH 
Goals Roadmap Obstacles Reference Outcomes Impact
GOALS 
❏ Must be quantifiable 
❏ Will typically tie back to making money, 
saving money, or avoiding risk of losing 
money 
❏ Often not well defined or unrealistic; first 
opportunity to teach
ROADMAP 
❏ The path to achieving your goals 
❏ Companies often try doing more of the 
same thing as opposed to trying new 
ideas, so chances are they’ve tried these 
things before. Dig in 
❏ Second opportunity to teach
OBSTACLES 
❏ What happens if these obstacles get in the 
way of your goals? 
❏ What is the impact to your business? 
❏ [ this is your time to shine as a 
salesperson; TEACH AWAY!]
REFERENCE 
❏ Be specific: 
❏ By vertical [media, retail, travel, tech] 
❏ By buyer profile [CMO, CTO, Analytics 
Manager 
❏ By use-case [use their goals,roadmap, 
or obstacles for inspiration]
OUTCOMES 
❏ What did your product do for your 
customers [results]? 
❏ What did it mean for their respective 
businesses [positive implications]?
IMPACT 
❏ Segue into what this can mean for the 
prospect 
❏ Close the next step
Once you’ve piqued your prospect’s interest, you can 
move on to PROVING how your product can help.
LEARN TEACH 
PROVE
PROVE 
❏ SHOW! [Don’t tell] 
❏ Demo and post-demo process 
❏ Establish vendor-customer fit 
❏ BANT lives here
in conclusion 
If your technology is creating a new market, then 
following traditional sales advice (SPIN, BANT, 
etc.) that is geared towards “rip and replace” 
selling will severely limit your distribution strategy 
once you’ve closed your early adopters. 
It’s time to graduate and move towards a GRO-ROI 
selling model focused on learning about your 
customers’ objectives and strategies for 
accomplishing them and then teaching them how 
your product can help them get there in ways they 
probably have not considered.

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Selling into Uncharted Territory - How Selling into the Market Majority Requires a New Sales Strategy

  • 1. selling into uncharted territory [and the market majority] Ash Alhashim Director of Sales Development Optimizely
  • 2. Abstract New ideas and technologies are being introduced to the world at an ever-increasing rate, changing the way people communicate, travel, and do business. Sales has traditionally focused on taking market share away from competitor products, but as the pace of new technology creation accelerates, more and more companies are working to distribute their products by creating new markets. The purpose of this presentation is to offer these types of companies a new sales discovery framework that is better suited for the type of conversation you will be having with prospects who are in the “unconscious incompetence” stage of learning [in other words, individuals who not only don’t know about what you do, but do not recognize the learning deficit]. If your technology is creating a new market, then following traditional sales advice (SPIN, BANT, etc.) that is geared towards “rip and replace” selling will severely impair your distribution strategy once you’ve moved past selling to early adopters. Once you start selling to the market majority, it will be time to move towards a GRO-ROI selling model focused on learning about your customers’ objectives and strategies for accomplishing them, and then teaching them how your product can help them get there in ways they probably have not considered. Happy reading, Ash
  • 3. let’s talk about death :-(
  • 4. Dr. Ignaz Semmelweis ● 19th century Hungarian physician ● Drastically cut childbed fever mortality rates by introducing hand sanitization to the childbirth process ● The medical community rejected his claims, offended by his suggestion that they were responsible for their patients’ high mortality rates ● Was admitted into an insane asylum at 47, died two weeks later ● Germ theory discovered by Louis Pasteur just years after his death, validated his claims posthumously
  • 5. Moral of the story: “Selling a solution to a problem that is not understood greatly increases the likelihood of failure. “
  • 7. in nascent markets, “BANT” based sales discovery processes are incongruent with market maturity levels
  • 8. what’s wrong with BANT? Budget, Authority, Need, Timeline ● looks for buyers already 60-70% through the buying process ● works well for customers that have already identified a need for your type of product
  • 9. so, BANT is still relevant but it belongs further down the sales cycle
  • 10. so what framework do we use for discovery?
  • 11. the law of diffusion of innovation [we’re here] Everett Rogers
  • 12. crossing the chasm The Chasm
  • 13. Once you’ve captured the early adopters, your customer profile will change
  • 14. therefore, you must change the way we communicate if you hope to capture the market majority
  • 15. [which is the only way for your company to survive on the long-term]
  • 16. so how do you move prospects down the sales cycle?
  • 17. the four stages of learning
  • 18. In psychology, the four stages of competence, or the "conscious competence" learning model, relates to the psychological states involved in the process of progressing from incompetence to competence in a skill.
  • 19. unconscious incompetence The individual does not understand or know how to do something and does not necessarily recognize the deficit. They may deny the usefulness of the skill. The individual must recognize their own incompetence, and the value of the new skill, before moving on to the next stage.
  • 20. conscious incompetence Though the individual does not understand or know how to do something, he or she does recognize the deficit, as well as the value of a new skill in addressing the deficit. The making of mistakes can be integral to the learning process at this stage.
  • 21. the journey of learning Conscious incompetence Sales approach BANT Unconscious incompetence Sales approach: Challenger
  • 22. conscious competence The individual understands or knows how to do something. However, demonstrating the skill or knowledge requires conscious effort.
  • 23. the journey of learning Conscious incompetence Sales approach BANT Unconscious incompetence Sales approach: Challenger Conscious Competence Success approach: Enablement Project Mgmt
  • 24. unconscious competence The individual has had so much practice with a skill that it has become "second nature" and can be performed easily.
  • 25. the journey of learning Conscious incompetence Sales approach BANT Unconscious incompetence Sales approach: Story Leader + Challenger Conscious Competence Success approach: Enablement Project Mgmt Unconscious competence Success approach: Ongoing training Persuasion Participation
  • 26. learn → teach → prove In order to effectively persuade [prove], we must first gain an understanding of the domain of our prospect [learn], and challenge him/her to think about their business through a different lens [teach].
  • 27. LEARN TEACH Goals Roadmap Obstacles Reference Outcomes Impact
  • 28. LEARN TEACH While the previous slide presented these steps in a straight line, we must note that the discovery process is non-linear. At any point during the learn process, a salesperson may be presented with the opportunity to teach. Think of it the following way:
  • 29. LEARN TEACH Goals Roadmap Obstacles Reference Outcomes Impact
  • 30. GOALS ❏ Must be quantifiable ❏ Will typically tie back to making money, saving money, or avoiding risk of losing money ❏ Often not well defined or unrealistic; first opportunity to teach
  • 31. ROADMAP ❏ The path to achieving your goals ❏ Companies often try doing more of the same thing as opposed to trying new ideas, so chances are they’ve tried these things before. Dig in ❏ Second opportunity to teach
  • 32. OBSTACLES ❏ What happens if these obstacles get in the way of your goals? ❏ What is the impact to your business? ❏ [ this is your time to shine as a salesperson; TEACH AWAY!]
  • 33. REFERENCE ❏ Be specific: ❏ By vertical [media, retail, travel, tech] ❏ By buyer profile [CMO, CTO, Analytics Manager ❏ By use-case [use their goals,roadmap, or obstacles for inspiration]
  • 34. OUTCOMES ❏ What did your product do for your customers [results]? ❏ What did it mean for their respective businesses [positive implications]?
  • 35. IMPACT ❏ Segue into what this can mean for the prospect ❏ Close the next step
  • 36. Once you’ve piqued your prospect’s interest, you can move on to PROVING how your product can help.
  • 38. PROVE ❏ SHOW! [Don’t tell] ❏ Demo and post-demo process ❏ Establish vendor-customer fit ❏ BANT lives here
  • 39. in conclusion If your technology is creating a new market, then following traditional sales advice (SPIN, BANT, etc.) that is geared towards “rip and replace” selling will severely limit your distribution strategy once you’ve closed your early adopters. It’s time to graduate and move towards a GRO-ROI selling model focused on learning about your customers’ objectives and strategies for accomplishing them and then teaching them how your product can help them get there in ways they probably have not considered.

Editor's Notes

  1. sales is the discipline of communication through persuasion. Customer success = participation and project management.
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