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Realistic Ageing
Planning for the final chapters
Martin Wilson
Consultant Physician
Raigmore Hospital
The Long Walk Home
To help us we are going to meet..
First the bits I want you to take
away....
The biggest barrier to good
anticipatory care in older adult
is....
Completely unrealistic
impressions of what ageing is
actually like
Realistic Ageing
• Often a long phase where adults ‘could’ die
• Very dependant on intercurrent and
unpredictable events
• Can feel like a long time to be ‘dying’ or
palliative for
[Almost] no one thinks they will
need hands on care before they
die
[Almost] no one thinks they will
need hands on care before they
die
Even fewer actually plan for it...
Most valuable assets
1. Unpaid carers
1. Paid Carers
2. Nursing home beds
3. A human being who can explain what is going
on ..
Key Priorities
• Public (and clinician) education
– Dying can take longer and be less tidy than many
presume
– Very likely to need hands on personal care before
you die.....maybe for years
A different spin on
demographics
Age is NOT the main problem
(It is not even in the top 3!)
Abba and dying
– The majority of over-65s have 2 or more conditions
– The majority of over-75s have 3 or more conditions
Multimorbidity is common in Scotland
Epidemiology of multimorbidity. Karen Barnett, Stewart W Mercer, Michael Norbury, Graham Watt, Sally Wyke,
Deprivation and functional impairment
Highland
Day to day activity limited a lot by long term health or disability
So on average
• If you are rich
– Live longer in good health
– Have a shorter proportion of life in poor health
– More likely to have single pathology
– More likely to be the sort of person that sets up
healthcare system.....
• Remember the Inverse Care Law
– Overspend tends to be in RICHEST post codes
Patterns to recognise and teach
Copyright ©2005 BMJ Publishing Group Ltd. Murray, S. A et al. BMJ 2005;330:1007-1011
Functional history as important as Past
Medical History
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‘Bad’ UTI
Diagnosed
Diabetes
Mobility
dipped
TIA
AF
COPD
MI
Current Function
• Not driving anymore
• Lift to shops
• Cooks (a bit)
• Tires more easily
• Cognitively “fine”
Our lady
• Probably now ‘Not in Good Health’
– Female so could be 5 to 7 years
• Long time but sounds like won’t do all that
well if major illness
Priorities here?
• Ensure the ‘simple things’ prompted
– Power of Attorney
– Wills
• Future protecting
– Suitable house?
– Suitable location ?
– How would you manage without the car?
• Consider ‘Time to benefit’ when considering
treatments
Key [reversible] determinants of
outcome
• Largely Social
– Housing
– Legal trouble
– Getting food in....
– Social isolation
• It is a medical trigger that gets folk admitted it
is a social trigger that keeps them in.
Key [reversible] determinants of
outcome
• The Main Medical ones
– Don’t poison your patient [Polypharmacy]
– Make sure folk know what’s wrong with them
• Adult
• Carer
• GP
• OOH (all the bits)
• Social Work
Why does Anticipatory Care
Planning work?
• Largely because folk have sorted things out
from themselves
• ACPs are NOT Living wills
• Try to micromanage reasons for decline (I
think futile) unless VERY close to that event.
Potential Medical Reasons for
decline/admission
• Stroke
• Pneumonia
• MI
• UTI Sepsis
• Delirium (any cause)
• # Neck of Femur
• GI bleed
• Bowel Obstruction
• Urinary Retention
• Complete Heart Block
• Exacerbation COPD
• Diabetic Emergency
• Drug side effect
• Etc
• Etc
• Etc
Systems Love Certainty
• Follow the guideline, follow the guideline,
follow the guideline
• Are they for
– IVs
– HDU
– ITU
– CPR
• Tell me now
• Tell me now
• Tell me now
Really specific plans DO help IF
• The deterioration is the one you expect
– Eg Pneumonia v # NOF
– COPD
– Diabetic sick day rules
• There is some sense of imminence
• Particularly good if looking at what to do the
NEXT time this occurs
Things
you could
die of
The thing
that
actually
gets you
Disclaimer
• Nonetheless it does really help for folk to have
some concept of
– What CPR is (and is not)
– What the broad levels of hospital care are
• IVs and oxygen v 3 weeks in ITU
• It really, really helps to know there general
views on stage of life and invasiveness of
treatment
– EVEN IF THOSE VIEWS UNREALISTIC
Big ticket social items
• Cannot get up stairs
• Cannot get food in
• Lives alone and cannot manage
– Cook alone
– Eat alone
– Dress alone
• Cannot survive without driving
• Social Isolation
Priorities here?
• The Adults views
–Maybe not too much longer that they will
be heard/audible
• At what point does it start to become an
unwise move to avoid a peaceful death...
Treatment outcomes
• Prospect of return to independence
• Prospect of death
• Prospect of existence in a reduced state
Unrealistic Statements :- number 1
• ‘I never want to go into a care home’
• ‘I promised him / her I would never put them
in a home’
• Never [hardly] made with any realistic
expectation of what that would mean in
practice.
Ideas from England
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‘Bad’ UTI
Diagnosed
Diabetes
Mobility
dipped
TIA
AF
COPD
Fall and
Lumbar
vertebral
fracture
Dementia
Diagnosed
Recurrent
UTIs
MI
Current Function
Medication
• Metformin 1 g TDS
• Gliclazide 160mg bd
• Calcichew D3 forte 1 tab twice a day
• Alendronate 70mg once a week
• Perindopril 4mg once a day
• Indapamide 2.5mg once a day Warfarin as per INR
• Seretide 250 1 puff twice a day
• Salbutamol as required
• Clopidogrel 75mg once a day
• Atorvastatin 80mg once a day
• Mirtazapine 30mg nocte
• Zopicolone 7.5 mg at night
• Oxybutinin 5mg bd
• Thyroxine 150mcg once a day
• Atrovent inhaler 4 times a day.
• Paracetamol 1g QDS
• Omeprazole 20mg once a day
• Trimethoprim 200mg once a day
prophylaxis
I know what I said about social
factors being the most important
BUT THAT DRUG LIST REALLY NEEDS
SORTED !
NHS Scotland Poly APP !!
1. Identify Objectives
7. Do they know what they are
taking and why and agree ?
2. Identify Essentials
3. Identify unneccesary
meds
4. Identify Undertreatment
5. Safety Check
6. Can they take
it ? /Can we afford
it ?
What happens next ?
What makes the difference here?
• Home care (paid or unpaid (family)
– Flexibly ~???
• Respite (of whatever type)
• Care Home move BEFORE collapse
• Lots and lot and lots of wise supportive words
• A family ‘on the same page’............
Things that make (almost) no
difference
• Most of her pills
• CT scans, blood tests
• Admissions to ‘exclude’ things
• Anyone who focuses on just one bit
So all agreed ?
• Talk is good
• Focus on the whole picture
• Individualise treatment
• Treat the unit as well as the individual
• ……
This is a nightmare.
• Could die on any of the deteriorations
– But doesn’t
• “Learned immortality”
• “Docs said she would die 3 times so far
Its a nitemare unpredictable
situation
Lets call the family ‘unrealistic’
Families
• ‘Unrealistic Relatives’ / ‘Distant Relative
Syndrome
• Often just seeing a different reality......
– + emotion
– + really, really not wanting it to happen NOW
– + she bounce back the last 3 times this happened
– + sometime we (the health service) are a bit
rubbish
We really need to understand
and be able to explain frailty
And all the uncertainty that goes
with that
Tolstoy
'All happy families are alike; each unhappy
family is unhappy in its own way.'
Even the best Advance Planning is not as good
as a functional family who can talk about
difficult things
Most valuable assets
1. Unpaid carers
1. Paid Carers
2. Nursing home beds
3. A human being who can explain what is going
on ..
Most valuable assets
1. Unpaid carers
1. Paid Carers
2. Nursing home beds
3. A human being who can explain what is going
on ..
A human being who understands and
can explain ..
• What ageing is like
• PROMPT folk to think about and plan for
– Social function
– Medical Function
• Do not underestimate the impact good
prompts can have from trusted professionals
Final Thought
Public Opinion
• Public need involved at every stage.
• Real care needed that it is understood what
ACP is and is not
• Note the climate...
How honest are we willing to be
with the population?
How realistic are we about our
final years?
A minutes silent reflection......
Do we all expect a sudden
death ?
Really ?
Is that what you are seeing
every day?
Where do you think you are
going to die?
How much help do you think
you are going to need ?
How much help do you think
you are going to need ?
In the last hours ?
In the last days?
In the last YEARS?
Take Highland
Your health boards won’t be far
off...
Proportion of deaths
at home
1997 to 2012
Proportion of deaths
at home
1997 to 2012
Static
Proportion of deaths
in hospital
1997 to 2012
Proportion of deaths
in hospital
1997 to 2012
Down 16%
Proportion of deaths
in Care Home
1997 to 2012
Proportion of deaths
in Care Home
1997 to 2012
Up 30%
If you died in Highland in 2012
13.1% of men died in a care
home
If you were a woman it was
26.1%
What Gender are the majority
of carers again ?
Today
In Scotland
Sept 2016
Figures ISD
1524 adults delayed
in hospital
411 Adults
Awaiting home care
348 Adults
Awaiting care home
And figures just tell us about
the ones we know about...
Not the woman caring for her
man......alone
Not the man caring for his
woman ....alone
Not the isolated ones no one
sees...
By 2030
230,000 folk in UK will need >
20 hours care a week
By 2030
230,000 folk in UK will need >
20 hours care a week
And have no family or informal
support to help them
Before you die....
Before you die....
You are likely to need
Hands on care
Possibly for years
Someone needs to pay for it
Someone needs to provide it
Its likely to be you
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Realistic Ageing

  • 1. Realistic Ageing Planning for the final chapters Martin Wilson Consultant Physician Raigmore Hospital
  • 3. To help us we are going to meet..
  • 4. First the bits I want you to take away....
  • 5. The biggest barrier to good anticipatory care in older adult is....
  • 6. Completely unrealistic impressions of what ageing is actually like
  • 7. Realistic Ageing • Often a long phase where adults ‘could’ die • Very dependant on intercurrent and unpredictable events • Can feel like a long time to be ‘dying’ or palliative for
  • 8. [Almost] no one thinks they will need hands on care before they die
  • 9. [Almost] no one thinks they will need hands on care before they die Even fewer actually plan for it...
  • 10. Most valuable assets 1. Unpaid carers 1. Paid Carers 2. Nursing home beds 3. A human being who can explain what is going on ..
  • 11. Key Priorities • Public (and clinician) education – Dying can take longer and be less tidy than many presume – Very likely to need hands on personal care before you die.....maybe for years
  • 12. A different spin on demographics Age is NOT the main problem (It is not even in the top 3!)
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  • 15. – The majority of over-65s have 2 or more conditions – The majority of over-75s have 3 or more conditions Multimorbidity is common in Scotland Epidemiology of multimorbidity. Karen Barnett, Stewart W Mercer, Michael Norbury, Graham Watt, Sally Wyke,
  • 16. Deprivation and functional impairment Highland Day to day activity limited a lot by long term health or disability
  • 17. So on average • If you are rich – Live longer in good health – Have a shorter proportion of life in poor health – More likely to have single pathology – More likely to be the sort of person that sets up healthcare system..... • Remember the Inverse Care Law – Overspend tends to be in RICHEST post codes
  • 19. Copyright ©2005 BMJ Publishing Group Ltd. Murray, S. A et al. BMJ 2005;330:1007-1011
  • 20. Functional history as important as Past Medical History 0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 1 3 5 7 9 11 13 15 17 19 21 23 25 27 29 31 33 35 37 39 41 43 45 47 49 51 53 55 57 59 61
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  • 23. 0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 1 3 5 7 9 11 13 15 17 19 21 23 25 27 29 31 33 35 37 39 41 43 45 47 49 51 53 55 57 59 0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 1 3 5 7 9 11 13 15 17 19 21 23 25 27 29 31 33 35 37 39 41 43 45 47 49 51 53 55 57 59 ‘Bad’ UTI Diagnosed Diabetes Mobility dipped TIA AF COPD MI
  • 24. Current Function • Not driving anymore • Lift to shops • Cooks (a bit) • Tires more easily • Cognitively “fine”
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  • 26. Our lady • Probably now ‘Not in Good Health’ – Female so could be 5 to 7 years • Long time but sounds like won’t do all that well if major illness
  • 27. Priorities here? • Ensure the ‘simple things’ prompted – Power of Attorney – Wills • Future protecting – Suitable house? – Suitable location ? – How would you manage without the car? • Consider ‘Time to benefit’ when considering treatments
  • 28. Key [reversible] determinants of outcome • Largely Social – Housing – Legal trouble – Getting food in.... – Social isolation • It is a medical trigger that gets folk admitted it is a social trigger that keeps them in.
  • 29. Key [reversible] determinants of outcome • The Main Medical ones – Don’t poison your patient [Polypharmacy] – Make sure folk know what’s wrong with them • Adult • Carer • GP • OOH (all the bits) • Social Work
  • 30. Why does Anticipatory Care Planning work? • Largely because folk have sorted things out from themselves • ACPs are NOT Living wills • Try to micromanage reasons for decline (I think futile) unless VERY close to that event.
  • 31. Potential Medical Reasons for decline/admission • Stroke • Pneumonia • MI • UTI Sepsis • Delirium (any cause) • # Neck of Femur • GI bleed • Bowel Obstruction • Urinary Retention • Complete Heart Block • Exacerbation COPD • Diabetic Emergency • Drug side effect • Etc • Etc • Etc
  • 32. Systems Love Certainty • Follow the guideline, follow the guideline, follow the guideline • Are they for – IVs – HDU – ITU – CPR • Tell me now • Tell me now • Tell me now
  • 33. Really specific plans DO help IF • The deterioration is the one you expect – Eg Pneumonia v # NOF – COPD – Diabetic sick day rules • There is some sense of imminence • Particularly good if looking at what to do the NEXT time this occurs
  • 34. Things you could die of The thing that actually gets you
  • 35. Disclaimer • Nonetheless it does really help for folk to have some concept of – What CPR is (and is not) – What the broad levels of hospital care are • IVs and oxygen v 3 weeks in ITU • It really, really helps to know there general views on stage of life and invasiveness of treatment – EVEN IF THOSE VIEWS UNREALISTIC
  • 36. Big ticket social items • Cannot get up stairs • Cannot get food in • Lives alone and cannot manage – Cook alone – Eat alone – Dress alone • Cannot survive without driving • Social Isolation
  • 37. Priorities here? • The Adults views –Maybe not too much longer that they will be heard/audible • At what point does it start to become an unwise move to avoid a peaceful death...
  • 38. Treatment outcomes • Prospect of return to independence • Prospect of death • Prospect of existence in a reduced state
  • 39. Unrealistic Statements :- number 1 • ‘I never want to go into a care home’ • ‘I promised him / her I would never put them in a home’ • Never [hardly] made with any realistic expectation of what that would mean in practice.
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  • 43. 0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 1 3 5 7 9 11 13 15 17 19 21 23 25 27 29 31 33 35 37 39 41 43 45 47 49 51 53 55 57 59 0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 1 3 5 7 9 11 13 15 17 19 21 23 25 27 29 31 33 35 37 39 41 43 45 47 49 51 53 55 57 59 ‘Bad’ UTI Diagnosed Diabetes Mobility dipped TIA AF COPD Fall and Lumbar vertebral fracture Dementia Diagnosed Recurrent UTIs MI
  • 45. Medication • Metformin 1 g TDS • Gliclazide 160mg bd • Calcichew D3 forte 1 tab twice a day • Alendronate 70mg once a week • Perindopril 4mg once a day • Indapamide 2.5mg once a day Warfarin as per INR • Seretide 250 1 puff twice a day • Salbutamol as required • Clopidogrel 75mg once a day • Atorvastatin 80mg once a day • Mirtazapine 30mg nocte • Zopicolone 7.5 mg at night • Oxybutinin 5mg bd • Thyroxine 150mcg once a day • Atrovent inhaler 4 times a day. • Paracetamol 1g QDS • Omeprazole 20mg once a day • Trimethoprim 200mg once a day prophylaxis
  • 46. I know what I said about social factors being the most important BUT THAT DRUG LIST REALLY NEEDS SORTED !
  • 48. 1. Identify Objectives 7. Do they know what they are taking and why and agree ? 2. Identify Essentials 3. Identify unneccesary meds 4. Identify Undertreatment 5. Safety Check 6. Can they take it ? /Can we afford it ?
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  • 51. What makes the difference here? • Home care (paid or unpaid (family) – Flexibly ~??? • Respite (of whatever type) • Care Home move BEFORE collapse • Lots and lot and lots of wise supportive words • A family ‘on the same page’............
  • 52. Things that make (almost) no difference • Most of her pills • CT scans, blood tests • Admissions to ‘exclude’ things • Anyone who focuses on just one bit
  • 53. So all agreed ? • Talk is good • Focus on the whole picture • Individualise treatment • Treat the unit as well as the individual • ……
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  • 66. This is a nightmare. • Could die on any of the deteriorations – But doesn’t • “Learned immortality” • “Docs said she would die 3 times so far
  • 67. Its a nitemare unpredictable situation Lets call the family ‘unrealistic’
  • 68. Families • ‘Unrealistic Relatives’ / ‘Distant Relative Syndrome • Often just seeing a different reality...... – + emotion – + really, really not wanting it to happen NOW – + she bounce back the last 3 times this happened – + sometime we (the health service) are a bit rubbish
  • 69. We really need to understand and be able to explain frailty And all the uncertainty that goes with that
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  • 71. Tolstoy 'All happy families are alike; each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way.' Even the best Advance Planning is not as good as a functional family who can talk about difficult things
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  • 73. Most valuable assets 1. Unpaid carers 1. Paid Carers 2. Nursing home beds 3. A human being who can explain what is going on ..
  • 74. Most valuable assets 1. Unpaid carers 1. Paid Carers 2. Nursing home beds 3. A human being who can explain what is going on ..
  • 75. A human being who understands and can explain .. • What ageing is like • PROMPT folk to think about and plan for – Social function – Medical Function • Do not underestimate the impact good prompts can have from trusted professionals
  • 77. Public Opinion • Public need involved at every stage. • Real care needed that it is understood what ACP is and is not • Note the climate...
  • 78. How honest are we willing to be with the population?
  • 79. How realistic are we about our final years? A minutes silent reflection......
  • 80. Do we all expect a sudden death ?
  • 82. Is that what you are seeing every day?
  • 83. Where do you think you are going to die?
  • 84. How much help do you think you are going to need ?
  • 85. How much help do you think you are going to need ?
  • 86. In the last hours ?
  • 87. In the last days?
  • 88. In the last YEARS?
  • 89. Take Highland Your health boards won’t be far off...
  • 90. Proportion of deaths at home 1997 to 2012
  • 91. Proportion of deaths at home 1997 to 2012 Static
  • 92. Proportion of deaths in hospital 1997 to 2012
  • 93. Proportion of deaths in hospital 1997 to 2012 Down 16%
  • 94. Proportion of deaths in Care Home 1997 to 2012
  • 95. Proportion of deaths in Care Home 1997 to 2012 Up 30%
  • 96. If you died in Highland in 2012
  • 97. 13.1% of men died in a care home
  • 98. If you were a woman it was 26.1%
  • 99. What Gender are the majority of carers again ?
  • 100. Today
  • 105. And figures just tell us about the ones we know about...
  • 106. Not the woman caring for her man......alone
  • 107. Not the man caring for his woman ....alone
  • 108. Not the isolated ones no one sees...
  • 109. By 2030 230,000 folk in UK will need > 20 hours care a week
  • 110. By 2030 230,000 folk in UK will need > 20 hours care a week And have no family or informal support to help them
  • 112. Before you die.... You are likely to need
  • 115. Someone needs to pay for it
  • 116. Someone needs to provide it
  • 117. Its likely to be you

Editor's Notes

  1. Sadly one winter becomes unwell. Delirious and confused but stays in bed. Diagnosis ? Chest infection needs hospital (not managing much orally etc) Along come the family: Always wanted to die at home. Scared of hospitals (wife died 4 years ago in Woodend negative experience). We will look after him. Leave him here.
  2. In hospital . Ivs Oxygen etc Improves but takes a turn and develops CVA( day 10). Right Hemi/ Poor Swallowing.
  3. Unable to swallow Three weeks since stroke. ( 4 weeks since admission). Consultant d/w family Unclear how well he will improve. Poor nutrition likely to be a factor etc. Family not keen on death by starvation Agree PEG inserted. 8 weeks later no improvement to NH (self funded) (3 months in hospital)
  4. 1 year goes by Occasionally out in a wheelchair Little communication. Disorientated time place person. Often affected by minor infections (catheter) more recently in bed +++ Family come along, increasingly distraught over the past year. Feel they made decision for the wrong reasons/ were given too rosy a picture of his chances. Could we please stop feeding him ?
  5. Sadly one winter becomes unwell. Delirious and confused but stays in bed. Diagnosis ? Chest infection needs hospital (not managing much orally etc) Along come the family: Always wanted to die at home. Scared of hospitals (wife died 4 years ago in Woodend negative experience). We will look after him. Leave him here.
  6. In hospital . Ivs Oxygen etc Improves but takes a turn and develops CVA( day 10). Right Hemi/ Poor Swallowing.
  7. Unable to swallow Three weeks since stroke. ( 4 weeks since admission). Consultant d/w family Unclear how well he will improve. Poor nutrition likely to be a factor etc. Family not keen on death by starvation Agree PEG inserted. 8 weeks later no improvement to NH (self funded) (3 months in hospital)
  8. 1 year goes by Occasionally out in a wheelchair Little communication. Disorientated time place person. Often affected by minor infections (catheter) more recently in bed +++ Family come along, increasingly distraught over the past year. Feel they made decision for the wrong reasons/ were given too rosy a picture of his chances. Could we please stop feeding him ?
  9. Sadly one winter becomes unwell. Delirious and confused but stays in bed. Diagnosis ? Chest infection needs hospital (not managing much orally etc) Along come the family: Always wanted to die at home. Scared of hospitals (wife died 4 years ago in Woodend negative experience). We will look after him. Leave him here.
  10. In hospital . Ivs Oxygen etc Improves but takes a turn and develops CVA( day 10). Right Hemi/ Poor Swallowing.
  11. Unable to swallow Three weeks since stroke. ( 4 weeks since admission). Consultant d/w family Unclear how well he will improve. Poor nutrition likely to be a factor etc. Family not keen on death by starvation Agree PEG inserted. 8 weeks later no improvement to NH (self funded) (3 months in hospital)