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How to Stop Designing Mouldy Buildings
(and mainstream the thermal bridge)
Simon McGuinness, MRIAI
TGD - D.2 Mould growth & surface
condensation
 The key factor used in
assessing the risk of mould
growth or surface
condensation in the vicinity
of thermal bridges is the
temperature factor (fRsi).
 For dwellings, the value of
fRsi should be greater than
or equal to 0.75, so as to
avoid the risk of mould
growth and surface
TGD - D.2 Mould growth & surface
condensation
 The key factor used in
assessing the risk of mould
growth or surface
condensation in the vicinity
of thermal bridges is the
temperature factor (fRsi).
 For dwellings, the value of
fRsi should be greater than
or equal to 0.75, so as to
avoid the risk of mould
growth and surface
For fRsi > 0.75
Tsi > 15degC
TGD - D.4 Calculation procedures
 The calculation procedure to
establish temperature factor
(fRsi) is outlined in BRE IP
1/06.
 Details should be assessed in
accordance with the methods
described in I.S. EN
ISO:10211.
 Which in turn references I.S.
EN ISO:13788 as
“indispensable for the
TGD - D.4 Calculation procedures
 The calculation procedure to
establish temperature factor
(fRsi) is outlined in BRE IP
1/06.
 Details should be assessed in
accordance with the methods
described in I.S. EN
ISO:10211.
 Which in turn references I.S.
hEN ISO:13788 as
“indispensable for the
ISO hEN 13788: 2012 (December 2013)
Walls, Floors, Ceilings
fRsi calculation
0.25 m2K/W surface resistance
0.25 m2K/W surface resistance
0.25 m2K/W surface resistance
ISO hEN 13788: 2012 (December 2013)
0.10 ^
0.13 >
0.25 ^
0.25 >
ISO hEN 13788: 2012 (December 2013)
0.10 ^
0.13 >
0.25 ^
0.25 >
Gable/Eaves cavity wall example
ACD 1.09 ACD 1.15
Gable/Eaves cavity wall example
ACD 1.09 (Eaves)
and
ACD 1.15 (Gable)
Under construction
In Dublin in 2015
Gable/Eaves cavity wall 3D model
3-D Thermal Modelling – Fails fRsi
Add 2.5 thermal blocks & mineral wool
Thermal Modelling – barely passes fRsi
What does the responsible educator do?
 Double-checked the standards
 Revised the syllabus
 Warned previous Thermal Modeller graduates
 Advised the regulators
 Advised the RIAI
 Issued three blog postings on BRegsForum
 Tweeted on social media
 Asked for clarification from the Minister
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Minister of State for the
Environment, Community and
Local Government (Deputy
Paudie Coffey)
“I refer to the reply to Question
No. 788 of 15 April 2015 which
addressed the approach to
calculating the temperature
factor in the vicinity of thermal
bridges at junctions and around
openings in accordance with
Appendix D of Technical
Guidance Document L 2011.
….”
Minister of State for the
Environment, Community and
Local Government (Deputy
Paudie Coffey)
“I refer to the reply to Question
No. 788 of 15 April 2015 which
addressed the approach to
calculating the temperature
factor in the vicinity of thermal
bridges at junctions and around
openings in accordance with
Appendix D of Technical
Guidance Document L 2011.
….”
Minister of State for the
Environment, Community and
Local Government (Deputy
Paudie Coffey)
”… A surface resistance value
of 0.25 is only used in very
specific situations as outlined in
section 4.4 of the EN ISO
13788 standard which is of
rather limited relevance in this
context and, for that reason, it
has not been referenced at
Appendix D of TGD L 2011 or
referred to in the reply to
Question No. 788 of 15 April
2015.”
Minister of State for the
Environment, Community and
Local Government (Deputy
Paudie Coffey)
“I refer to the reply to Question
No. 788 of 15 April 2015 which
addressed the approach to
calculating the temperature
factor in the vicinity of thermal
bridges at junctions and around
openings in accordance with
Appendix D of Technical
Guidance Document L 2011.
….”
Minister of State for the
Environment, Community and
Local Government (Deputy
Paudie Coffey)
”… A surface resistance value
of 0.25 is only used in very
specific situations as outlined in
section 4.4 of the EN ISO
13788 standard which is of
rather limited relevance in this
context and, for that reason, it
has not been referenced at
Appendix D of TGD L 2011 or
referred to in the reply to
Question No. 788 of 15 April
2015.”
Minister of State for the
Environment, Community and
Local Government (Deputy
Paudie Coffey)
“I refer to the reply to Question
No. 788 of 15 April 2015 which
addressed the approach to
calculating the temperature
factor in the vicinity of thermal
bridges at junctions and around
openings in accordance with
Appendix D of Technical
Guidance Document L 2011.
….”
Minister of State for the
Environment, Community and
Local Government (Deputy
Paudie Coffey)
”… A surface resistance value
of 0.25 is only used in very
specific situations as outlined in
section 4.4 of the EN ISO
13788 standard which is of
rather limited relevance in this
context and, for that reason, it
has not been referenced at
Appendix D of TGD L 2011 or
referred to in the reply to
Question No. 788 of 15 April
2015.”
Minister of State for the
Environment, Community and
Local Government (Deputy
Paudie Coffey)
“I refer to the reply to Question
No. 788 of 15 April 2015 which
addressed the approach to
calculating the temperature
factor in the vicinity of thermal
bridges at junctions and around
openings in accordance with
Appendix D of Technical
Guidance Document L 2011.
….”
Minister of State for the
Environment, Community and
Local Government (Deputy
Paudie Coffey)
”… A surface resistance value
of 0.25 is only used in very
specific situations as outlined in
section 4.4 of the EN ISO
13788 standard which is of
rather limited relevance in this
context and, for that reason, it
has not been referenced at
Appendix D of TGD L 2011 or
referred to in the reply to
Question No. 788 of 15 April
2015.”
?
Can the Design Certifier Rely on
the ACDs to deliver a Mould-free
Compliant Design?
On the basis of our work in the last
12 months, it is significantly less
than “certain” that he or she can.
Can the Design Certifier Rely on
the ACDs to deliver a Mould-free
Compliant Design?
On the basis of our work in the last
12 months, it is significantly less
than “certain” that he or she can.
How did it impact on the DIT nZEB Retrofit
Project 2015?
Current BER: 363 kWh/m2a
Target: 45 kWh/m2a
Saving Per Unit: 318 kWh/m2a
Cabra alone: 3,800 similar houses
Total Savings: 1,208, 400 kWh/m2a
Money Saved: €9million per year
Would fund 200 retrofits per year
In 19 years it would be complete
How did it impact on the DIT nZEB Retrofit
Project 2015?
Current BER: 363 kWh/m2a
Target: 45 kWh/m2a
Saving Per Unit: 318 kWh/m2a
Cabra alone: 3,800 similar houses
Total Savings: 1,208, 400 kWh/m2a
Money Saved: €9million per year
Would fund 200 retrofits per year
In 19 years it would be complete
Thermal Modelling used to check for fRsi
Thermal Modelling used to check for fRsi
Thermal Modelling used to check for fRsi
How to reduce the cost of retrofit …
€560 per ACD x 178 ACDs x 2 U-values = €100,000
Would take 3 months and employ 5 researchers, or
€10,332 cost per home x 1.3 Million homes = €13,431,600,000
How to reduce the cost of retrofit …
€560 per ACD x 178 ACDs x 2 U-values = €100,000
Would take 3 months and employ 5 researchers, or
€10,332 cost per home x 1.3 Million homes = €13,431,600,000
One of these
is “cost
optimal”
The Dublin School of Architecture and
Building looks forward to working with
Government and the construction industry to
resolve all the technical issues necessary to
achieve nZEB Retrofit safely, cost effectively
and speedily. By working together, we are
confident we can achieve our national targets.

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How to stop designing mouldy buildings

  • 1. How to Stop Designing Mouldy Buildings (and mainstream the thermal bridge) Simon McGuinness, MRIAI
  • 2. TGD - D.2 Mould growth & surface condensation  The key factor used in assessing the risk of mould growth or surface condensation in the vicinity of thermal bridges is the temperature factor (fRsi).  For dwellings, the value of fRsi should be greater than or equal to 0.75, so as to avoid the risk of mould growth and surface
  • 3. TGD - D.2 Mould growth & surface condensation  The key factor used in assessing the risk of mould growth or surface condensation in the vicinity of thermal bridges is the temperature factor (fRsi).  For dwellings, the value of fRsi should be greater than or equal to 0.75, so as to avoid the risk of mould growth and surface For fRsi > 0.75 Tsi > 15degC
  • 4. TGD - D.4 Calculation procedures  The calculation procedure to establish temperature factor (fRsi) is outlined in BRE IP 1/06.  Details should be assessed in accordance with the methods described in I.S. EN ISO:10211.  Which in turn references I.S. EN ISO:13788 as “indispensable for the
  • 5. TGD - D.4 Calculation procedures  The calculation procedure to establish temperature factor (fRsi) is outlined in BRE IP 1/06.  Details should be assessed in accordance with the methods described in I.S. EN ISO:10211.  Which in turn references I.S. hEN ISO:13788 as “indispensable for the
  • 6. ISO hEN 13788: 2012 (December 2013) Walls, Floors, Ceilings fRsi calculation 0.25 m2K/W surface resistance 0.25 m2K/W surface resistance 0.25 m2K/W surface resistance
  • 7. ISO hEN 13788: 2012 (December 2013) 0.10 ^ 0.13 > 0.25 ^ 0.25 >
  • 8. ISO hEN 13788: 2012 (December 2013) 0.10 ^ 0.13 > 0.25 ^ 0.25 >
  • 9. Gable/Eaves cavity wall example ACD 1.09 ACD 1.15
  • 10. Gable/Eaves cavity wall example ACD 1.09 (Eaves) and ACD 1.15 (Gable) Under construction In Dublin in 2015
  • 12. 3-D Thermal Modelling – Fails fRsi
  • 13. Add 2.5 thermal blocks & mineral wool
  • 14. Thermal Modelling – barely passes fRsi
  • 15. What does the responsible educator do?  Double-checked the standards  Revised the syllabus  Warned previous Thermal Modeller graduates  Advised the regulators  Advised the RIAI  Issued three blog postings on BRegsForum  Tweeted on social media  Asked for clarification from the Minister √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √
  • 16. Minister of State for the Environment, Community and Local Government (Deputy Paudie Coffey) “I refer to the reply to Question No. 788 of 15 April 2015 which addressed the approach to calculating the temperature factor in the vicinity of thermal bridges at junctions and around openings in accordance with Appendix D of Technical Guidance Document L 2011. ….”
  • 17. Minister of State for the Environment, Community and Local Government (Deputy Paudie Coffey) “I refer to the reply to Question No. 788 of 15 April 2015 which addressed the approach to calculating the temperature factor in the vicinity of thermal bridges at junctions and around openings in accordance with Appendix D of Technical Guidance Document L 2011. ….” Minister of State for the Environment, Community and Local Government (Deputy Paudie Coffey) ”… A surface resistance value of 0.25 is only used in very specific situations as outlined in section 4.4 of the EN ISO 13788 standard which is of rather limited relevance in this context and, for that reason, it has not been referenced at Appendix D of TGD L 2011 or referred to in the reply to Question No. 788 of 15 April 2015.”
  • 18. Minister of State for the Environment, Community and Local Government (Deputy Paudie Coffey) “I refer to the reply to Question No. 788 of 15 April 2015 which addressed the approach to calculating the temperature factor in the vicinity of thermal bridges at junctions and around openings in accordance with Appendix D of Technical Guidance Document L 2011. ….” Minister of State for the Environment, Community and Local Government (Deputy Paudie Coffey) ”… A surface resistance value of 0.25 is only used in very specific situations as outlined in section 4.4 of the EN ISO 13788 standard which is of rather limited relevance in this context and, for that reason, it has not been referenced at Appendix D of TGD L 2011 or referred to in the reply to Question No. 788 of 15 April 2015.”
  • 19. Minister of State for the Environment, Community and Local Government (Deputy Paudie Coffey) “I refer to the reply to Question No. 788 of 15 April 2015 which addressed the approach to calculating the temperature factor in the vicinity of thermal bridges at junctions and around openings in accordance with Appendix D of Technical Guidance Document L 2011. ….” Minister of State for the Environment, Community and Local Government (Deputy Paudie Coffey) ”… A surface resistance value of 0.25 is only used in very specific situations as outlined in section 4.4 of the EN ISO 13788 standard which is of rather limited relevance in this context and, for that reason, it has not been referenced at Appendix D of TGD L 2011 or referred to in the reply to Question No. 788 of 15 April 2015.”
  • 20. Minister of State for the Environment, Community and Local Government (Deputy Paudie Coffey) “I refer to the reply to Question No. 788 of 15 April 2015 which addressed the approach to calculating the temperature factor in the vicinity of thermal bridges at junctions and around openings in accordance with Appendix D of Technical Guidance Document L 2011. ….” Minister of State for the Environment, Community and Local Government (Deputy Paudie Coffey) ”… A surface resistance value of 0.25 is only used in very specific situations as outlined in section 4.4 of the EN ISO 13788 standard which is of rather limited relevance in this context and, for that reason, it has not been referenced at Appendix D of TGD L 2011 or referred to in the reply to Question No. 788 of 15 April 2015.” ?
  • 21. Can the Design Certifier Rely on the ACDs to deliver a Mould-free Compliant Design? On the basis of our work in the last 12 months, it is significantly less than “certain” that he or she can.
  • 22. Can the Design Certifier Rely on the ACDs to deliver a Mould-free Compliant Design? On the basis of our work in the last 12 months, it is significantly less than “certain” that he or she can.
  • 23. How did it impact on the DIT nZEB Retrofit Project 2015? Current BER: 363 kWh/m2a Target: 45 kWh/m2a Saving Per Unit: 318 kWh/m2a Cabra alone: 3,800 similar houses Total Savings: 1,208, 400 kWh/m2a Money Saved: €9million per year Would fund 200 retrofits per year In 19 years it would be complete
  • 24. How did it impact on the DIT nZEB Retrofit Project 2015? Current BER: 363 kWh/m2a Target: 45 kWh/m2a Saving Per Unit: 318 kWh/m2a Cabra alone: 3,800 similar houses Total Savings: 1,208, 400 kWh/m2a Money Saved: €9million per year Would fund 200 retrofits per year In 19 years it would be complete
  • 25. Thermal Modelling used to check for fRsi
  • 26. Thermal Modelling used to check for fRsi
  • 27. Thermal Modelling used to check for fRsi
  • 28. How to reduce the cost of retrofit … €560 per ACD x 178 ACDs x 2 U-values = €100,000 Would take 3 months and employ 5 researchers, or €10,332 cost per home x 1.3 Million homes = €13,431,600,000
  • 29. How to reduce the cost of retrofit … €560 per ACD x 178 ACDs x 2 U-values = €100,000 Would take 3 months and employ 5 researchers, or €10,332 cost per home x 1.3 Million homes = €13,431,600,000 One of these is “cost optimal”
  • 30. The Dublin School of Architecture and Building looks forward to working with Government and the construction industry to resolve all the technical issues necessary to achieve nZEB Retrofit safely, cost effectively and speedily. By working together, we are confident we can achieve our national targets.