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                    Samantha Bateman                                If you could give a class of new graduates some advice on entering
                    sbateman@integriaconsulting.c
                    See all Samantha’s activity »                   the job market, what would it be?
                    Stop following
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                                                                  Interesting that this came up because I was at a networking meeting at
                    Greg Brown                                    McMaster University here in Hamilton last Friday. I got talking with a few of the
                    Consultant, Affiliate Marketer,
                                                                  students during a reception after the presentation. So I will offer the same
                    LinkedIn Group Manager and
                    HAPPEN Opportunities
                                                                  advice I gave to them. You're never too young to start networking or to build a
                    Administrator/Meeting                         contact network through social networking groups such as LinkedIn. Doing all
                    Facilitator                                   this will pay untold dividends in future.
                    See all Greg’s activity »                     Posted 14 days ago | Reply Privately
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                                                                  I would say only one thing, may sound corny, but it is the truth: be persistent
                    Predrag Sunjka                                and never give up in your job hunt.
                    Food Safety Manager at
                    Champag Inc.                                  Posted 8 days ago | Reply Privately
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                                                                  1) Keep an open mind and try new avenues, but don't be afraid to pursue
                    Vanessa Franco                                opportunities that are in line with your ethics and values. It all comes together
                    Solo Librarian / Freelance
                                                                  somehow. You don't have to completely compromise who you are.
                    Proofreader
                    See all Vanessa’s activity »
                    Follow Vanessa                                2) Never stop learning.

                                                                  3) Be careful when it comes to bridge-burning.
                                                                  Posted 8 days ago | Reply Privately



                                                                  Keep track of everything during your job hunt! i.e. who you contact and when,
                    Anne-Sophie von Heyden                        who you've spoken to, business cards, company names, emails and letters
                    Inquiries Coordinator at The
                                                                  you've sent out, etc. Not only is it handy during your initial job hunt (for example
                    American University of Paris
                    See all Anne-Sophie’s activity »              to remember when to follow-up, etc), but if you change jobs again, you already
                    Follow Anne-Sophie                            have a ton of contacts and resources to work from the second time around.
                                                                  Posted 7 days ago | Reply Privately



                                                                  In the 1967 movie "The Graduate", Dustin Hoffmann's character was famously
                    Paul Farkas                                   imparted the one word piece of advice "Plastics". Bringing the one word advice
                    National Manager, HR at
                                                                  forward to today, I would update the advice to "Pivots" - as in pivot tables.
                    Hyundai Auto Canada
                    See all Paul’s activity »                     Businesses are awash in data - and those people, young or old, who can take
                    Follow Paul                                   the myriad of data that exists in today's business environment and turn it into
                                                                  meaningful information, are and will continue to be way ahead of the pack.
                                                                  Posted 6 days ago | Reply Privately



                                                                  At the end of the day is important to remember its just a job. Too many people
                    Terry Fong                                    take the stress of the job home with them, which in turn impacts their friends
                    R&D Tax Credits Manager at
                                                                  and famillies.
                    Ernst & Young
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                                                 If you're still a student and just graduating in April, you might be interested in
               Gregg Blachford                   taking part in McGill Career Planning Service's Job Finding Club in May. Details
               Director, Career Planning
                                                 at http://www.mcgill.ca/caps/students/services/jfc/ Final dates to be confirmed.
               Service (CaPS) at McGill
               University
                                                 We help you find your way into the job market.
               See all Gregg’s activity »        Posted 1 day ago | Reply Privately
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                                                 - Don't settle. You've spent to much time to waste away in a job you don't love.
               David Perry BA MM                 Don't use the recession or anything else as an excuse for not living your career
               Guerrilla Recruiter               dreams. That's just a cop-out.
               Six-sigma recruiting black-belt
                                                 - Find 10 companies you want to work for and make a compelling pitch to the
               who builds executive teams for
               explosive growth.
                                                 CEO or EVP.
               See all David’s activity »        - Be Hunted! Leverage social networking technology by leaving "digital bread
               Follow David                      crumbs" to your web site or blog.
                                                 - Make certain your resume and cover letter makes it very clear to the hiring
                                                 authority "Here's What's in It For You".

                                                 - Down load a copy of my speech to grads or my free DVD: Put America Back
                                                 To Work and become a Guerrilla Job Search Commando. www.gm4jh.com or
                                                 www.PutAmericaBackToWork.com/dvd

                                                 David Perry,
                                                 McGill: Class of '82
                                                 co-author, "Guerrilla Marketing for Job Hunters 2.0"
                                                 Rogue Recruiter, www.perrymartel.com
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                                                 Thank you so much for all of your comments! I presented to the group earlier
               Samantha Bateman                  this evening and shared your comments. I hope it will assist these new grads in
               sbateman@integriaconsulting.c
               See all Samantha’s activity »
                                                 their future endeavours.
               Stop following
                                                 sam
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                                                 When new graduates start their career journey, there is one thing which is
               Robert Zackon                     impossible for them to know; the life experience of their 30's, 40's etc. As we
               Small Business Management |
                                                 grow older, it's amazing how our childhood passions become stronger and we
               Sales / Marketing |
               Administration Management
                                                 realize that who we are was developed years earlier. Anyone who is older
               See all Robert’s activity »       knows that the years go by in the blink of an eye, a concept which takes us all
               Follow Robert                     by surprise. We all wish we knew what we know now, earlier. No one can gain
                                                 this knowledge by reading a book or taking a course.

                                                 With all that said, the best advice for anyone who is starting out is to listen to
                                                 their heart and try to figure out what it is saying. This is not an easy task, it
                                                 takes a lot of searching from within. Follow your dreams now, because they
                                                 will come back again later in life. Don't miss out on this.
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                                                                  If it's still usefull, here are my comments:
                    Peter Gabor
                    Owner, PGabor Associates:
                                                                  I am mentoring five students and interns. I have a volunteer coop student
                    Architecture, Interiors, & Urban
                    Design
                                                                  working for me from Waterloo. I have participated in lectures to students in
                    See all Peter’s activity »                    Waterloo, Carleton, and Ryerson on this subject. I am chair of the OAA Intern
                    Follow Peter                                  Committee. Not all architects agree with my recommendations, but they were
                                                                  well received and appreciated by all the students and interns I talk to:

                                                                  1. Research any firm you are applying to - there should be a reason and
                                                                  rationale for wanting to work there. Employers do not appreciate applications
                                                                  addressed to "to whom it may concern" . Be prepared to asnwer if asked why
                                                                  you applied.
                                                                  2. In a severely depressed market like we have had in the last 18 months, be
                                                                  prepared to seek jobs in related feels rather than simply defering to the easiest
                                                                  possibilities - Macdonald's, Tim Horton, Call Centre, etc. Pursue oportunities in
                                                                  engineering, interior design, graphic design, and construction. (We particulary
                                                                  prefer applicants with construction experience because it allows students to get
                                                                  a better appreciation of how their drawings translate into reality, and the
                                                                  resultant changes that require carefull consideration to keep the project on
                                                                  track with teh original design vision.
                                                                  3. Not everyone can afford it, but if possible, offer to volunteer, particularly at a
                                                                  firm you have identified as a good learning opportunity, and/or does the type of
                                                                  work you appreciate. The experience is still valid. Future employers need not
                                                                  know that you volunteered. On a CV, just indicate: worked at XYZ Co Jan to
                                                                  June 2010. Your actual experience at the firm will be most relevant to your
                                                                  future as a student or intern.
                                                                  4. Be patient and follow up. Circumstances change. Keep in touch with a firm
                                                                  you would like to work at, even if you have found another job in the interim.
                                                                  Build bridges that could be usefull in future job searches.
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                                                                  Be sure to focus on the needs of the employer and how your skills match the
                    Peter Ryttel                                  requirements of the position. Remember to provide a list of achievements or
                    Global Sales at Dow Jones &
                                                                  accomplishments that tell the employer how you could help them. Limit your
                    Company
                    See all Peter’s activity »                    search to employers you are really passionate about; they will pick up on your
                    Follow Peter                                  enthusiam.
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  • 1. Discussion: McGill University Alumni | LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/groupAnswers?viewQuestionAndAnswers=&g... Basic Account: Upgrade Welcome, Temi Akinaina · Add Connections · Settings · Help · Sign Out Home Profile Contacts Groups Jobs Inbox More... People Advanced McGill University Alumni Overview Discussions News Jobs Subgroups More... Group Profile Discussion Back to all discussions | Start a discussion Follow discussion Move to Jobs Samantha Bateman If you could give a class of new graduates some advice on entering sbateman@integriaconsulting.c See all Samantha’s activity » the job market, what would it be? Stop following Posted 14 days ago | Reply Privately Comments (12) Interesting that this came up because I was at a networking meeting at Greg Brown McMaster University here in Hamilton last Friday. I got talking with a few of the Consultant, Affiliate Marketer, students during a reception after the presentation. So I will offer the same LinkedIn Group Manager and HAPPEN Opportunities advice I gave to them. You're never too young to start networking or to build a Administrator/Meeting contact network through social networking groups such as LinkedIn. Doing all Facilitator this will pay untold dividends in future. See all Greg’s activity » Posted 14 days ago | Reply Privately Follow Greg I would say only one thing, may sound corny, but it is the truth: be persistent Predrag Sunjka and never give up in your job hunt. Food Safety Manager at Champag Inc. Posted 8 days ago | Reply Privately See all Predrag’s activity » Follow Predrag 1) Keep an open mind and try new avenues, but don't be afraid to pursue Vanessa Franco opportunities that are in line with your ethics and values. It all comes together Solo Librarian / Freelance somehow. You don't have to completely compromise who you are. Proofreader See all Vanessa’s activity » Follow Vanessa 2) Never stop learning. 3) Be careful when it comes to bridge-burning. Posted 8 days ago | Reply Privately Keep track of everything during your job hunt! i.e. who you contact and when, Anne-Sophie von Heyden who you've spoken to, business cards, company names, emails and letters Inquiries Coordinator at The you've sent out, etc. Not only is it handy during your initial job hunt (for example American University of Paris See all Anne-Sophie’s activity » to remember when to follow-up, etc), but if you change jobs again, you already Follow Anne-Sophie have a ton of contacts and resources to work from the second time around. Posted 7 days ago | Reply Privately In the 1967 movie "The Graduate", Dustin Hoffmann's character was famously Paul Farkas imparted the one word piece of advice "Plastics". Bringing the one word advice National Manager, HR at forward to today, I would update the advice to "Pivots" - as in pivot tables. Hyundai Auto Canada See all Paul’s activity » Businesses are awash in data - and those people, young or old, who can take Follow Paul the myriad of data that exists in today's business environment and turn it into meaningful information, are and will continue to be way ahead of the pack. Posted 6 days ago | Reply Privately At the end of the day is important to remember its just a job. Too many people Terry Fong take the stress of the job home with them, which in turn impacts their friends R&D Tax Credits Manager at and famillies. Ernst & Young See all Terry’s activity » Posted 6 days ago | Reply Privately Follow Terry 1 of 3 03/18/2010 4:09 PM
  • 2. Discussion: McGill University Alumni | LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/groupAnswers?viewQuestionAndAnswers=&g... If you're still a student and just graduating in April, you might be interested in Gregg Blachford taking part in McGill Career Planning Service's Job Finding Club in May. Details Director, Career Planning at http://www.mcgill.ca/caps/students/services/jfc/ Final dates to be confirmed. Service (CaPS) at McGill University We help you find your way into the job market. See all Gregg’s activity » Posted 1 day ago | Reply Privately Follow Gregg - Don't settle. You've spent to much time to waste away in a job you don't love. David Perry BA MM Don't use the recession or anything else as an excuse for not living your career Guerrilla Recruiter dreams. That's just a cop-out. Six-sigma recruiting black-belt - Find 10 companies you want to work for and make a compelling pitch to the who builds executive teams for explosive growth. CEO or EVP. See all David’s activity » - Be Hunted! Leverage social networking technology by leaving "digital bread Follow David crumbs" to your web site or blog. - Make certain your resume and cover letter makes it very clear to the hiring authority "Here's What's in It For You". - Down load a copy of my speech to grads or my free DVD: Put America Back To Work and become a Guerrilla Job Search Commando. www.gm4jh.com or www.PutAmericaBackToWork.com/dvd David Perry, McGill: Class of '82 co-author, "Guerrilla Marketing for Job Hunters 2.0" Rogue Recruiter, www.perrymartel.com Posted 1 day ago | Reply Privately This comment has been deleted. Thank you so much for all of your comments! I presented to the group earlier Samantha Bateman this evening and shared your comments. I hope it will assist these new grads in sbateman@integriaconsulting.c See all Samantha’s activity » their future endeavours. Stop following sam Posted 1 day ago | Reply Privately When new graduates start their career journey, there is one thing which is Robert Zackon impossible for them to know; the life experience of their 30's, 40's etc. As we Small Business Management | grow older, it's amazing how our childhood passions become stronger and we Sales / Marketing | Administration Management realize that who we are was developed years earlier. Anyone who is older See all Robert’s activity » knows that the years go by in the blink of an eye, a concept which takes us all Follow Robert by surprise. We all wish we knew what we know now, earlier. No one can gain this knowledge by reading a book or taking a course. With all that said, the best advice for anyone who is starting out is to listen to their heart and try to figure out what it is saying. This is not an easy task, it takes a lot of searching from within. Follow your dreams now, because they will come back again later in life. Don't miss out on this. Posted 1 day ago | Reply Privately 2 of 3 03/18/2010 4:09 PM
  • 3. Discussion: McGill University Alumni | LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/groupAnswers?viewQuestionAndAnswers=&g... If it's still usefull, here are my comments: Peter Gabor Owner, PGabor Associates: I am mentoring five students and interns. I have a volunteer coop student Architecture, Interiors, & Urban Design working for me from Waterloo. I have participated in lectures to students in See all Peter’s activity » Waterloo, Carleton, and Ryerson on this subject. I am chair of the OAA Intern Follow Peter Committee. Not all architects agree with my recommendations, but they were well received and appreciated by all the students and interns I talk to: 1. Research any firm you are applying to - there should be a reason and rationale for wanting to work there. Employers do not appreciate applications addressed to "to whom it may concern" . Be prepared to asnwer if asked why you applied. 2. In a severely depressed market like we have had in the last 18 months, be prepared to seek jobs in related feels rather than simply defering to the easiest possibilities - Macdonald's, Tim Horton, Call Centre, etc. Pursue oportunities in engineering, interior design, graphic design, and construction. (We particulary prefer applicants with construction experience because it allows students to get a better appreciation of how their drawings translate into reality, and the resultant changes that require carefull consideration to keep the project on track with teh original design vision. 3. Not everyone can afford it, but if possible, offer to volunteer, particularly at a firm you have identified as a good learning opportunity, and/or does the type of work you appreciate. The experience is still valid. Future employers need not know that you volunteered. On a CV, just indicate: worked at XYZ Co Jan to June 2010. Your actual experience at the firm will be most relevant to your future as a student or intern. 4. Be patient and follow up. Circumstances change. Keep in touch with a firm you would like to work at, even if you have found another job in the interim. Build bridges that could be usefull in future job searches. Posted 1 day ago | Reply Privately Be sure to focus on the needs of the employer and how your skills match the Peter Ryttel requirements of the position. Remember to provide a list of achievements or Global Sales at Dow Jones & accomplishments that tell the employer how you could help them. Limit your Company See all Peter’s activity » search to employers you are really passionate about; they will pick up on your Follow Peter enthusiam. Posted 23 hours ago | Reply Privately Add a Comment: Follow this discussion. Get notified by email about new comments. Note: Email notifications will be sent to temi.akinaina@mcgill.ca Change » or Cancel Customer Service About Blog Careers Advertising Recruiting Solutions Tools Developers Language Upgrade Your Account By using this site, you agree to LinkedIn's terms of use. Commercial use of this site without express authorization is prohibited. LinkedIn Corporation © 2010 User Agreement Privacy Policy Copyright Policy Send us your feedback. 3 of 3 03/18/2010 4:09 PM