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INTROI'UCTION
In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
I am grateful to Allah for having read the manuscript of
tvtuslnn-CmrsrrAN DIALoGUE and being asked to write an
introduction to this remarkably eye-opening book' Anyone
interested in comparative religion will find in this book many
surprisesthat chailenge what many oncebelievedto the absolute
truths.
This work by Dr. HasanM. Baagil reflectshis meticulousand
painstaking effort to presenthis findings clearly andconciselyand
if,o.o,rgtttyl As a reiult of his studyof Christianity andthe Bible
olr., u'fo* year period,Dr. Baagil, a dedicatedMuslim, learned
not only that Christians differ in their basic beliefs (Trinity'
Divinity of Jesus,etc.),but do not know thatthe Chwch doctrine
contradicts the Bible numerous times and that the Bible even
contradictsitselfl His conversations
with christian clergy andlaity
dwing this period of study have provided the impetus for the
MUSLD{-CMISTIAN DIALOGUE.
ThereaderswillbesurprisedtoleamthatintheBibleJesus
(PBUH) never claimed to be God; that Jesusdid not die on the
"rorr;
ihut the miracles performedby Jesuswere alsoperformed
by many other prophets,andevenby disbelievers;andthat Jesus
himself prophesied the adventof the ProphetMuhammad'peace
be upon them. All of thisplusmuchmoreis detailedfrom clear
.on.i'r. passageof Bible scripture' The questionthat obviously
must be raisedafterwitnessingsuchclear contradictionsis: Is the
Bible God's Word? The efforthereby Dr' Baagitis not intended
to derideChristianpeopleandcertainlynot to mock Jesusandhis
teachings.elair foiUiOl The intent is obviously to point out
thlt
false ciarges, misrepresentationsand outright lies againstAllah
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and His Prophets are in themselvesderiding andmockery anda
most odiousthing.
MUsLrM-CHRTSTIAN
DIALoGUE alsomakescleartheIslamic
point of view in thesemattersandshowshow the eur'an, revealed
to the Prophet Muhammadsome600 yearsafterthe life of Jesus,
peace be upon both of them, corrects the errors that crept
(knowingly or unknowingly) in the message
that Jesusbrought.
This book shouldprove to be very valuableassetto both Muslims
and Christians,particularly given the interestin dialoguesbetween
fwo faiths. God willing, this book will be an effective tool for
Muslims in our efforts to invite Christians to Islam.Conversely,
Christians should become more aware of what in fact theBible
says and what Jesus(PBUH) actually taught. as a result of
studying this book. Indeed,asa Muslim the hopeis that the Non-
Muslim will accept the Truth andbearwitnessto the Onenessof
Allah andthatMuhammadis His slaveservantandMessenger.
May Allah rewardDr. Baagil for his effortsto dispeldarkness.
May Allah's peacebeuponusall.
Muulruen A. NUBEE
ACIINOWLEDGMENT
I am an American raised from childhoodin Christianbelief.
l,'rrtil I beganmy soul's questfor God. i.e. Allah,I hadtakenmany
rnattersof importancefor granted.
rfter discussionsandreadingandrereadingthe manuscriptof
iit presentMusLtrvI-CmJsrIANDIALocuE, I havegoneover the
cuulations from the King JamesVersion of the Holy Bible andthe
iloly Qur'an.
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I finally announce my Shahadah(Testimony) publicly in
English than in Arabic: I bearwitnessthat thereis no deity except
Allah, Who has no partner andMuhammadis His slaveservant
and messenger, Ash-hadu anJa llaha illallahu wahdahu la
shqreeka lahu wa ash-hadu anna Muhammadan 'abduhu
wa
rasuluhu.
Through this very basicandsimpletestimonyI believemany
people will submit to Allah in spirit and rruth.
I hope that this short and easy-to-read booklet will be read
worldwide and will atfact many who are searching for a true
belief wtreretheir mindsmay find restandsatisfaction.
RoY EARL Jom{SoN
NOTE FROM THE AUTHOR
In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
This booklet has been writtenastheresultofdialoguesI had
with Christian clergy aswell aslait-v.The discussions
werepolite,
pleasant, friendly and constructivewithout the slightestintention
of hurting the religious feeling of anv Christian.It is provocative
and a challenge to Christianity. It is indispensablefor those
looking for the truth andthosesrudyingComparativeReligion.
C
M o r m
PBLIH
PBUT
Christian
Muslim
Peace
Be Upon Him
PeaceBe Upon Them
H.M. B.lectr. M. D.
Januarv.
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CONTENTS
DIAI.OGUE
Page
l. The First ContactBetweena Christiananda Muslim 7
2. TheHoly Bible 19
3. The Doctrine of the TrinitY 28
4. The Doctrine of the Divinity of JesusChrist 33
5. The Doctrine of the Divine Sonshipof JesusChrist 40
6. Was JesusCrucified 43
7. The Doctrine of AtonementandOriginal Sin 49
MUHAMMAI' IN THE BIBI^E
1. Both IshmaelandIsaacWere Blessed
2. Criterion of the ProphetJeremiah
3. Until ShilohCome
4. Bacais Mecca
5. The Houseof My Glory
6. Chariot of AssesandChariot of Camels
7. The ProphetLike Unto Moses
8. My Servant,MessengerandElect
9. King David CalledHim "MY Lord"
10.Art Thou That ProPhet?
1l.Baptizing With theHoly GhostandWith Fire
12.TheLeastin theKingdom of Heaven
l3.BlessedAre thePeacemakers
14.Comforter
l5.Revelation to ProphetMuharnnad (PBLIH)
l6.References
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THE FIRST CONTACT BETWEEN
A CHRISTIAN AND A MUSLIM
C. Why havetherebeenin the last decademanydiscussions
held
betweenChristiansandMuslims abouttheir beliefs?
M. I think because we both haveseveralthingsin common.We
believe in the One Creator who had sentmany Prophets and in
JesusastheMessiahaswell asto theWord of Godu*rich hadbeen
deniedby the Jews.
Ow Holy Qur'anmentionsin Suah 3:45:"[Reurember]
when
the angels said,'oOMary! Verily Allah givesyou the glad tidings
of a Word from him, his namewill be MessiahJesus,the sonof
Mary, held in honor in this world andin the hereafter,andof those
who arenearto Allah."
Dialogues have beenheld everywherein Europe.Canada.the
USA and Australia. Even the Vatican is not spared where
discussionswere held betweenVatican theologiansandEgyptian
Muslim scholars
in Romein 1970andin Cairoin 1974and 1978.
Also between Vatican theologians and Saudi Arabian Muslim
scholarsin Romein1974. Many timesin Colombo,not to mention
Muslims invited by manychurchesto presentIslam.
C. If Christianityis nearlyfwo thousandyearsold andIslam more
than fourteen hundredyears,why were thesediscussions
not held
centuriesago?
M. For the last three to four cenftries many Asian andAfrican
countries dominated by Muslims were colonized by Britain,
France,Holland, Belgium, Spain and Porfugal.Many Christian
mission coloniststried to convertasmanyMuslim astheycould
by whatever means they had,by giving them medicalffeatment,
clothes,food. jobs to thepoor,but only a fewwere converted.
A
small part of the elite were convertedto Christianitybecauseof
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their prejudice that Christianity brought them to their civilization
and progressofknowledge. They had a rryrong
notion because
this
progress was aftained after the separationofstate andchurchin
Europe.
After the Second World War many Muslims from Asian and
African countries were emigrating asworkers andprofessionals to
the Western Hemisphere, vrtrich brought them more in contact
with Christians.Also studentswere active in introducingIslam.
C. Do you see other reasonswhy many dialogues were held
nowadaysevenby their respectivemissions?
M. I think the gapbetweenboth is coming smalleraseachis more
tolerant, although both are still competing in getting more
converts. I still remember my Christianteacherwho usedto say,
"Muhammad the impostor. the dreamer.the epileptic." You now
find fewer writers depictingIslam in sucha manner.
We Muslims feel closerto the Christiansthanto the Jewsand
disbelieversas the Qur'an prophesied in Surah5:82:"thouwilt
find the most vehement of mankind in hostility to those who
believe (to be) the Jewsandthe idolaters.And thou wilt find the
nearestof them in affectionto thosewho believe(to be) thosewho
say: Lo! We areChristians.This is because
thereareamongthem
priestsand monks (i.e. personsentirely devotedtotheserviceof
God. aswere the Muslims), andbecause
they arenot proud."
SomeChristiandenominationsaremakingtremendousprogress
now by acknowledgingforthe first time in history thatMuhammad
(PBUH) descendedfrom Ishmaelthroughhis secondsonKedar.
The Davis Dictionaryof theBible. 1980,sponsored
by theBoard
of Christian Education of the Presbyterian Churchin the USA,
writes undertheword Kedar:"... A tribe descended
from Ishmael
(Gen.25:13)...The
peopleof KedarwerePliny'sCedrai,
andfrom
their tribe Mohammed ultimately arose." The Intemational
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Standard Bible Encyclopedia quotes the following from A. S.
Fulton: "...Of theIshmaelite
tribes.Kedarmusthavebeenoneof
the most important, and thus in latertimesthe namecameto be
applied to all the wild tribes of the dessert.It is through Kedar
(Arab. Keidar) that Muslirn genealogistsfface the descent of
Mohammedfrom Ishmael."
Also Smith's Bible Dictionarywill not staybehindandprints
the following: "Kedar (black). Secondson of Ishmael (Gen.
25:13)...Mohammed
traceshis lineageto Abraham
throughthe
celebratedKoreish tribe,which sprangfiom Kedar.The Arabsin
the Hejaz arecalledBeni Harb (menof war).andareIshmaelites
as of old, fiom theirbeginning.Palgravesaystheirlanguage
is as
pure now as when the Koran was wriften (A.D. 610), having
remainedunchangedmore than 1200 years; a hneproof of the
permanency
of EasternInstitutions."
The biggest asset brought by Muslim immigrantsto the
Westem hemisphereis not theirmanpowerbut the Islamwhich is
now taking root here. Many mosquesand Islamic Centersare
establishedand many are revertedto Islam. I prefer theword
reverted andnot converted.
aseverybodyis bom in submission
to
Allah. i.e. Islam.this is thenafureof everychild bom. The parents
or the commurity convert him to Judaism.Christianity.other
faiths.or atheism.
This is alsoaproofthatIslamisnot spreading
by the swordbut
simply by propagationby individualsor groupsof Muslims.We
don'thavespecial
missions
organized
asin Christian
missions.
The rvorld populationhasincreased
136%from 1934through
1984.Christianiq'with 47o/oand
Islamwith 235%.SeeThePlain
Truth. February 1984. in its 50 YearA-nniversary
issue.quoting
from Thefi'orld Alntanacand Bookof Facts 1935andReader's
Digcst.-llmunac
and 'earbook1983.
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C. If all three religions, Judaism, Christianity and Islam, are
claiming to emanatefrom the One God andsameCreator,why do
they differ?
M. All Prophets from Adam to Muhammad(PBUT) were sent
with the samemessage:
that is, the total submissionof mankindto
Allah. This submissionin Arabic is calledis calledIslam;Islam
means also Peace,peace betweenthe CreatorandHis creatures.
Unlike the names Judaism andChristianiry.this nameIslam has
been given by Allah, the CreatorHimself. asmentionedin Surah
5:3: "This day I have perfectedyour religion for you and
completed My favor on you. and have chosenfor you Islam as
your religion." Neither the nameJudaismnor Christianityis found
in the Bible, not evenin a Biblc dictionary.No IsraeliteProphet
mentionedthe word Judaism.Jesusnever ciaimed to establish
Christianiryon earth and never called himself a Christian.The
word Christianity is mentionedonly three times in the New
Testament
andfirst in Antioch."
Later by King AgrippaII to Paulin Acts26:28:"ThenAgrippa
saiduntoPaul,Almost thoupersuadest
me to be a Christian."
So the name Christian was first given by foes rather than
friends. And finall1'byPeterin his letterto comfbrtthe faithfulin
I Peter 4:16: "Yct if an;-mansufferasa Christian,let him not be
ashamed.
..."
-fhe
first fto be called] Muslim on earthis not Muhammadbut
Abraham who submittedtotally to Allah. But Islam asaway of life
had been revealed to otherprophetsprior to Abrahamlike Adam
andNoah.ThenIslamfollows asthe way of life for all humaniry.
C. How could Abrahambe a Muslim? He is known asa Jewl
M. A Jev/?Who told you that?
C. We aretaughtthat;it mustbe confirmedby theBible.too.
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M. Canyou showme wherein the Bible it saysthathe is a Jev/?If
you can't find it quickly,let mehelpyou.ReadGenesisI l:31.
C. "And Terah took Abram his son,andLot the sonof Haranhis
son's son, and Sarai his daughter-in-law,his sonAbram'swife,
and they went forth with them from Ur of the Chaldees,to go into
the land of Canaan;andthey cameunto Haran anddwelt there."
M. So Abraham who wasborn in Ur of Chaldeescould not have
been a Jew. First becauseUr of ChaldeeswasinMesopotamia,
which is now part of Iraq. He wasthenmore anArab than a Jew.
Secondly the name Jew came after the exstence of Judah,the
great-grandsonof Abraham (seechartonpage 12).Readfirther.
Genesis12:.4and5.
C. "...and Abraham was seventy and hve years old when he
departedout of Haran....andinto the land of Canaanthey came."
M. So Abraham emigratedto Canaanattheageofseventy-hve
and the Bible clearly mentioned that he wastherea strangerin
Genesis17:8; "And I will give unto thee,andtothyseedafter
thee, the land whereinthou art a sffanger,all the land of Canaan,
for an everlastingpossession;
andI will be their God." Readnow
Genesis
l4:13.
C. "And there came one that had escaped,
andtold Abram the
Hebrew;"
M. How canyou call Abraham a Jewif the Bible itself calls him a
Hebrew which meansa man from the othersideof the Euphrates.
It alsomeanspertainingto Eber, a descendant
of Shem'Readnow
in Genesis 32:38 what happenedto the name of Jacob after
wrestling with an angel.
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C. "And he said, Thy name shall be calledno more Jacob.but
Israel; for asa prince hastthou power with God andwith men. and
hastprevailed."
M. So Abraham was a Hebrew.The descendants
of Jacobwere
Israelites consisting of the twelve tribes. Judahwasnicknamed
"Jew" sothatonly Judah'sdescendants
werecalledJewsoriginally'
To knowwho Mosesreallywas,readExodus6:16-20'
C. "And thesearethe namesof the sonsof Levi accordingto their
generations;Gherson.andKohath. andMerari. --. And the sonsof
Kohath: Amran. ... Amran took him Jochebedhis father's sisterto
wife; andshebarehim Aaron andMoses."
M. So Moses wasnot a Jewbecausehe wasnot descended
from
Judah but a Levite. Moseswasthe "law-giver" (Torah is law) to
the childrenoflsrael.
C. How canyou exPlainthat?
M. Becausewe areusingthe Qur'an asstandard.You canexplain
the Bible and correctthe JewishandChristianprejudicewith the
contextof theQur'an.It is thelastrevealed
Book which hasnever
been comrptedor adulterated'Its contentshasbeenguaranteed
b-v
Allah in Surah 2:2: "This is the Scripfurewhereof thereis no
doubt ..." andalsoin Surah15:9:"No doubtWe havesentdown
the Qur'an and srrely We will guardit (from comrption)"'This
verse is a challengeto mankind'It is a clearfactthatmorethan
fourteenhundredyears havepassed
andnot a singleword ofthis
Qur'an has beenchanged
althoughdisbelievers
triedtheirutmosl
to changeit. but tlrey'failed iniselabl-vin theil efforts'As it is
meniirrneiin rhis Holy Verse:
''We l'ill guard thisRook"'by'
:llah. He l'ras
guardedit.
On the contrar,'.
all thc other lioiy books (Torah' Psalms'
Gospeis.etc.)havcbeenadulterated
in theform of additions'
deletionsor alterations
from the original.
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C. What dies the Qur'an sayaboutAbrahamandMosesthatyou
candeduceit from the Bible?
M. In Surah3:65:"O peopleof the Scripture(JewsandChristians)!
Why do you dispute about Abraham, while the Torah andthe
Gospelwere not revealedtill after him? Haveyou thenno sense?"
And in Surah 3: 67: "Abraham was neither a Jew nor a
Christian, but he wasa tme Muslim (worshiperof nonebut Allah
alone)andhejoined nonein worship with Allah."
In Swah 2:140: "Or say you that Abraham.Ishmael,Isaac,
Jacobandthetwelve sonsof JacobwereJewsor Christians?Say(O
Muhammad), "Do you know betteror doesAllah (know better)?
And who is moreunjustthanhewho concealsthe testimonyhe has
from Allah? And Allah is not unawareof what you do." Of course
they were not Jews or Christians as the nameJewscameafter
Judahandthe nameChristianscamelong after Jesushad left.
C. It feel strangeto hearthe nameAllah. Why don't you sayGod
if you speakEnglish?
M. Yes, indeed, the name Allah seemsto be strange to non-
Muslims but this namehasbeenusedby all ProphetssinceAdam
wrtil Muhammad(PBUT). It is contractionof thefwo Arabic words
Al-Ilah, i.e. The God. By droppingthe letter "I" you will find the
word Allah. Accordingto its positionin anArabic sentence
it can
have the form Allaha which is closetotheHebrewnameofthe
Creator, i.e.Eloha. But the Jewsareusingwrongly the plural form
Elohim which denotesmore than one God. The word Allaha
sounds closerto the Aramaic word for God usedby Jesus,namely
Alaha (see Encyclopedia Britannica 1980 under Allah and
Elohim). So while thenameAllah is strange
to non-Muslims,it is
not strangeto all Prophetsfrom Adam to Muhammad(PBUT), as
they propagatedin principlethesameIslam.i.e.t"otal
submission,
and the word Allah denotesthe personal nameof the Supreme
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Being. It is not subjectto phuality or gender,sothereis no such
thing as Allahs, or male or femaleAllah, asthereis Godsor God
and Goddess. It is confusing to use the word God as many
English-speaking Christians still considerJesusasGod' Even the
woid Creator is alsocon-firsing,
asmany Christiansstill maintain
that Jesushad createdthe world.
Not only the nameAllah is strange,but alsothe way Muslims
worship Allah with ablution, bowing kneeling, prostration and
fasting is strangeto non-Muslims,but not strangeto all Prophets'
While ablution (washingof face.arms,feet,andmoisteningof the
hair) prior to worship is abandoned
by modem Christians,it is still
required by Muslims and previous Prophets, as seen in the
following passagesof the Bible: Exodus 40:31-32:"AndMoses
and Aaron andhis sonswashedtheir handsandtheir feetthereat;
When they went into the tent of the congregation,andwhen they
carne near unto the altar, they washed;asthe Lord commanded
Moses." Although Paul mademanychangesin Jesus'
teaching,he
was still faithful in respectto ablution as seen in Acts2l:26:
"Then Paul took themen.andthe next da.vpurifying himself with
them enteredinto the temple..." Muslim women performtheir
prayer with their headcovere<l
asin I Corinthians11:5,6and 13:
;'Brrt
",r.ry
woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head
turcovereddishonourethher head:for thatis evil ail oneasifshe
were shaven.For if the woman be not covered.let her alsobe
slion"l:but ifitbc a sharnerJ
icr arvon.ian
ic be shomor shaven,
let
her be covered....Judgein yourselves:
is it comeiythata woman
pray unto God uncovered?" Muslims worship with bowing,
kneeling, prosffation and without shoes as done by previous
Prophets: Psalm95:6:"O come,let usworshipandbow down:let
us kneel before the Lord our maker." Joshua5:14: "And Joshua
fell on his face to theearth,anddid worship ..." I Kings 18:42:
"And Elijah went up to the top of the Carmel;andhe casthimself
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down upon the earth, and put his face to between his knees."
Numbers 20:6: "... and they (Moses andAaron)fellupontheir
faces: and the glory of theLord appeared
uponthem,saying..."
Genesis17:3:"And Abraham fell on his face:andGod talked with
him, saying..." Exodus3:5 andActs 7:33:"And he [God] said[to
Mosesl, Draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoesfrom offthy feet.
for the placewhereonthou standestis holy ground."
A Christian will shiver in hearingthat Pilgrimageor Hajj asis
now done by Muslims by circumambulating around the sacred
stone Ka'bah in Mecca, had beenperformedby many Prophets.
evenby IsraeliteProphets.
C. I neverreadPilgrimageor sacredstonein theBible.
M. This hasbeenmentionedclearly severaltimesbut overlooked
by Bible readers:
1. Jacobon his way to Padan-aramsawa vision andbuilt the next
morning a pillar of stone which he called Beth-El"l.e.and
Houseof theLord (Genesis
28:18-19).
2. Years later the sameProphet,Jacob,wasorderedby Allah to
go to Beth-El (Genesis35:4,14.15).Jacob removed all the
strange Gods prior to going there. Later also Prophet
Muhammad(PBUH) removedall idols aroundthe sacredstone
Ka'bah in Mecca.
3. Another pillar wasbuilt by Jacobandhis father-in-lawLaban
(Genesis3l:45-49): "And Jacobtook a took a stone,andsetit
up for a piliar. And Jacob said unto his brethren, Gather
stones; and they took stones.andmadeanheap;andthey did
eat there uponthe heap.And Laban calledit Jegar-sahadutha,
but Jacob called it Galeed. ...And Mizpeh;for he said.The
Lord watchbetween
me andthee..."
4. Jephthah and Ammon hada war againsteachother.Jephthah
swore to the Lord in Mizpeh of Gileadto sacrificehis onjv
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daughter if he won. He did win. andburnt his daughterthere
aliveasanofferingto theLord (Judges11:29-39).
5. Four hundred thousand swordsmen fiom the eleventribesof
Israel swore before the Lord in Mizpeh to exterminate
the
tribesof Benjamin(Judges
20 and2l).
6. The childrenof IsraelunderSamuel
sworein Mizpehto destroy
theiridolsif theywon against
thePhilistines
(l Samuel
7).
7. The whole nationof Israelassembled
in MizpehwhenSamuel
wasappointed
kingof Israel(l Samuell0).
It is obvious no',vthat there is no Mizpehleft in thisworld
except the oidestonein thelIol.v Cir,vof N{ecca
built by Abraham
and his sonIshmael.from whom laterProphetMuhammadarose.
Muslims arereallythefollowersof all Prophets.
I cantell you other
thingsaboutMuslims.IslamandMuhammad(PBUH) in theBible,
but why shouldyou know this if you arenot iookingfor thetruth?
C. I am sureof my own beliefasa Christianbut i amstimulated
to
know more about both religions. I feelsometimes
ridiculedasa
Christianafterreadingbooksll'r:itten
by Muslims.
M. Did it affectyou in your religiouslife?
C. Yes,I amnotgoingto Churchasregularlyasbefore.I havebeen
secretlyreading books q,r'ittenby Muslirns.I haveaskedseveral
Muslims whatwasnot clearto me.but not to mYsatisfaction'
I am
looking for a belief that I canrelyon.thatcangivemepeace
of
mind-scientifically
acceptable.
andnotjust beheve
in it blindl.v.
M. It shouldbe like that.I appreciate
1'ourattitude.But rvearenot
allowedto allureanyone.
We propagate
only'to thoservhowantto
listento us.
C. But I amlieeto choose
an1'
beliefI likeandnobodv
canstopme.
I!1.Yes.thereis no compulsi<.ln
in religion.
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C. Why are Muslims calling otherpeopleto accepttheir belief,
then?
M. As Christiansaskthe Jewsto acceptJesusasthe Messiah we
Muslims ask the Christians as well as Jewsand all mankind to
accept Muharnmad (PBUH) as the Seal of all prophets. Our
Prophet Muhammad(PBUIO said:-'Convey
my message
evenone
ayah(verseof tlre Holy Qur'an)."
Also Isaiah m€ilimed in chapter 2l:13, ..TheBurdenupon
Arabiq" which mearn the responsibility of the Muslim Arabs, of
course of all Muslims now, to spreadthe Islam.Isaiahmentioned
fhis after he saw in a vision a chariotofassesanda chariotof
camels(21:7): "And he sawa chariotwith a coupleof horsemen,a
chariot of asses,and a chariot of camels; and he hearkened
diligently with muchheed."
The chariot of assesfumed out to be Jesuswho entered
Jerusalem(Iohn 12:14;Matthew2t:5). Who thenwasthechariot
of camels? It could not be otherthanMuhammad(pBUH) who
came about six hundredyearsafter the adventof Messiah.If this
is not accepted,
thenthisprophecyhasnot yet beenfulfilled.
C. Your explanationstimulatesme to review the Bible more
carefully. I would like to get more discussions
with you.
M. Yes, if you aresuccessful
in this world, it doesn'tmeanthatyou
will be successfulin the hereafter. The hereafteris muchbetter
and more lasting than this life. Peoplearenow becomingmore
materialistic and secular. Let uscometogetherseveraltimesand
discuss the differences frankly and without prejudice. Islam is
basedonreason,
andyou shouldnotjust acceptit. Evenyour Bible
says,"Provethings;hold fastthatwhich is good" (I Thess.5:21).
C. You quotedjtxt now "chariot of camels"from Isaiahandmade
the conclusionthat it wasMuhammad.ls he thenprophesiedin the
Bible?
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M. Sure.
C. In the Old or New Testament?
M. In both. But you caffiot recognizehim in the Bible aslong as
you don't believe in the Onenessof God' I meanaslong asyou
still believe in the Trinity, the Divinity of Jesus,the Divine
Sonship of Jesus,the Original Sin andtheAtonement.All these
doctrines madeby men.Jesushadprophesied(Matthew l5:9) that
people will worship him uselesslyandbelieving in doctrinesmad
by men: "But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines
the commandments
of men."
THE HOLY BIBLE
M. Are you surethatthe Bible is holy?
C. Yes,I amvery sureaboutit; it is God's Word.
M. Readwhat Luke saidabouthis recordingin l:2 and3.
C. "Even astheydeliveredthemuntous, which from the beginning
were eyewitnesses,
and ministers of theword; It seemedgoodto
me also, having had perfectunderstandingof all things from the
very first, to write unto theein order,most excellentTheophilus."
M. If Luke said that he himselfwasnotaneyewitnessandthe
knowledge he gathered was from eyewitnesses
andnot aswords
inspiredby God,do you still believetheBible is God'sword?
C. Maybe only this part is not God's word.
M. History hasshownthat the Bible sufferedchangesthroughthe
ages.The RevisedStandardVersion 1952 and 1971' theNew
American StandardBible and theNewWorld Translationofthe
Holy Scripture have exprurgedcertain verse comparedwith the
King James Version. Reader's Digest has reducedthe Old
Testament by fifty percentandthe New Testamentcondensed
by
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about fwenty-five percent, SomeyearsagoChristiantheologians
wanted to "desex" the Bible. Does.,holy"
meanthat the Bible is
freefrom error.
C. Yes,that is so.But what kind of error do you mean?
M. Supposeone versestatesthat a certainpersondied at the age
of fifty yearsandanotherversestatesthatthe samepersondied at
ageof sixty years,canboth statements
be right?
C. No, both statements
canneverbe right. Only onecanbe right
or both arewrong.
M. If a holy book containscon{lictingverses!
do you still consider
it holy?
C. Of course
not,because
aholy scriptureis arevelationfrom God
andit shouldbeimpossible
to contain
mistakes
or conflictinsverses.
M. Thenit is not holyagain.
C. Right;it holinessdisappears.
M. If so,you can't trust it onehundredpercent.What could be the
causes
then?
C. It couldbe a mistakein recording;deliberate
changes
by scribes
deletionor addition.
M. If thereareconflictingverses
in theBible.do you still consider
it holy?
C. I don't believethattheBible is not holy, sinceI don,tseeany
conflictingversesin it.
M. Theremanyconflicting
verses
in ir.
C. In theOld or New Testament?
M. In bothTestaments.
Thesearesomeof them:
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II Samuel 8:4
And David took from him a
thousand chariots and seven
hundred horsemenand twentY
thousand
footnen ...
II Samuel 8:9-10
When lol king of Hamath heard
that David had smitten all the host
of Hadodezer. Then loi sent
Joramhis son unto king David, to
salute him, and to bless him,
because he had fought agarnst
Hadadezer, and had smitten him;
for Hadadezer had wars with Toi.
And Joram with him vesselsof
silver, and vessels of gold, and
vesselsof brass.
II Samuel 10:18
And the Syrian fled beforeIsrael;
and David slew tle men of seYet?
hundred chariols ofthe SYrians,
and forty lhousand horsemen,
and smote Shobsch the caPtaln
of their host.who died there.
I Chronicles 18:4
And David took from him a
thousand chariots arrd seven
thousand horsemen
andtwentY
thousand
footrnen...
2l
Q. Sevenhundredor seventhousand?
I Chronicles 18:9-10
Now when Toukingof Hamath
heard how David had smitten all
the host of Hadarezer king of
Zobah; HesentHadorarz his son
to king David, to inquire of his
welfare, and to congratulate him,
because he had fought against
Hadarezer, and smitten him;
(for Hsdarezer had wars with
Tou:) and with him all manner
of vesselsofgold and silver and
brass.
Q. Toi or 1'ou,Joramor Hadoram'Hadadezer
or Hadarezer?
I Chronicles 19:18
But the Syrian fled beforeIsrael;
and David slew of the Syrians
seven tltousand men which
fought in chariots, and fortY
lhousand footmen and killed
Shophach the captain of the
host.
Q. Seven
hundredchariotsor seven
thousand
men?Fortythousand
horsemen
or footmen?Shobach
or Shopach?
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II Kings 8:26 II Chronicles 22:Z
Two and twen$t years old was Forty and two years old was
Ahaziahwhenhebeganto reip: Ahaziahwhenhebegan
to reign.
Q. Twenty-two or forty-two years?
II Kings 24:8 I Chronictes 36:9
Jehoiachim was eighteen years Jehoiachim waseightyears old
old when hebeganto reip, and when he beganto reign,andhe
he reigned tn Jerusalemlhree reigned lhree months ond ten
monlhs. daystn Jerusalem.
Q. Eighteen years or eightyears?Threemonthsor threemonths
andten days.
II Samuel 23:8 I Chronicles ll:ll
Thesebethenamesof themighty And this is the number ofthe
men whom David had: The mighty'men whom Davidhad:
Tachmonite that sat in theseat, Jashobeam,
anHachmonite,the
chiefamongthecaptains;thesame
chief of the captains;
he lifted
was Adino the Eznite: helift up up his spear aga;nstthree
his spearagainsteight hundred, hundretl slain by him at one
whomheslewatonetime. time.
Q. Tachmoniteor Hachmonite?Eight hundredor threehundred?
II Samuel 24:1 I Chronicles2l:l
And again theangerofthelord And .Sarcttstood up against
waskindledagainst
Israel,andhe lsrael, and provoked David to
moved David against them to numberIsrael.
say,Go,numberIsraelandJudah.
Q. Is theLord of David thenSatan?
God forbid!
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II Samuel 6:23 II Samuel 21:E
ThereforeMichal thedaughter
of But the king tookthetwo sons
Saul had no chitd until theday of Rizpahthedaughter
of Aiah,
ofher death. whom she bare unto Saul,
Armoni andMephibosheth;
and
the five sons of Michal the
daughter of Saul, whom she
brought up for Adriel thesonof
BarzllaitheMeholathite.
Q. Did Michal havechildren or not?Nofe.'The nameMichal in Il
Samuel21:8is still present
in theKing James
versionandtheNew
World Translationof the Holy Scriptures
usedby theJehovah's
Witnesses. but is changed to Merab in the New American
Standard
Bible 1973.
C. I neversawit before.Are therestill many?
M. Do you want to know more? Is this not enoughto deny its
holiness?SeeGenesis
6:3:"And theLord said,My spirit shallnot
always strive with man,for that he alsois flesh:yet his daysshall
be anhundredandtwentyyears."
But how old was Noah when he died?More than a hurdred
and twenfy years. See Genesis9:29: "And all thedaysof Noah
were nine hundredandfifty yearswhenhe died." SomeChristian
theologiansmaintain not that the maximum age ofmanwillbe
hundredandtwentyyearsbut thatthe flood comein a hundredand
fwenty years.Eventhis doesn'tfit becauseat the time of the flood
Noah should have beensix hundredandtwenfy(500+120)years
old but the Bible states six hundredyears.Srudytheseverses-
Genesis5:32:"And Noahwasfivehundred
yearsold..."; Genesis
7:6: "And Noah was six hundredyears old when theflood of
waterswasupon the earth."
Christianitybelieves
thatGodcreated
manin His image:white,
black or anv else. male or female?This is according
to Genesis
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1:26: "And God said, Let us make manin our image,afterour
likeness..." But this contradictsIsaiah40:18 and25:"To whom
then will ye liken God? Or what likenesswill ye compareunto
him?...To whom then will ye likenme, orshall I be equal?saith
the Holy One." SeealsoPsalm89:6:"For who in theheavencan
be compared
untotheLord?" And Jeremiah10:67:"Forasmuch
as
thereis nonelike untothee,O Lord...thereis nonelike untothee."
C. But all thesearein the Old Testament.
M. Let's go to theNew Testament
now.
John 5:37 John 14:9
Ye have neither heard his ... he that hath seenme hath
[God's] voice at any time, nor seen
theFather...
seen
hisshape.
.iohn5:31 John8:14
If I bear witness of myself,rty Jesus answ6redand said unto
wilnessis not true. them, Though I bearrecordof
myself,yet my rcord is true.
These are only some of the conffadictionsin the New
Testament.You will frndmoreif we discuss
togetherthetruth of
the doctrines of modern Christianifylike the Trinity, Divinity of
JesusChrist,Divine Sonshipof Jesus.Original Sin andAtonement,
not to mention the degrading of many Prophetsin the Bible as
worshipersof false gods and accusing themofincest,rapeand
adultery.
C. Wheredo you fin thatin theBible?
M. Noah is shownto haveshownto havebeendrunk to the point
of becomingnakedin thepresence
of his grown-upsons(Genesis
9:23-24): "And ShemandJaphethtook a garment,andlaid it upon
both their shoulders. and went backward and covered the
nakednessoftheir father;andtheir faceswerebackward.andthey
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'r<
saw not their father'snakedness'
And Noah awokefrom his wine'
andkneu'what his youngersonhaddoneunto him'"
Solomon*u, u..ur"d rrotonlyof havinga largeharembut also
of worshipping theirfalsegods(I Kings 11:9-10):"'Andthe Lord
was angry
^wittl
Sotomon...Rtta
hadcommanded
him conceming
tt is ttriii. that he shouldnot go after gods:but kept not that which
theLord commanded."
Aaron. asaProphetwho hadaccompanied
his brotherMosesto
Pharaoh,was accused
ofhaving fashioned
thegoldencalf for the
lsraelitesto worship (Exodus 32:4): "And he (Aaron)received
them (golden eanings) at their hand, and-fashioned it with a
graving"toot, afterhehadmadeit goldencalf: andthey said' These
[. tnigods, O Israel.rvhichbrought theeupoutofthelandof
EgYPt"' 'ed
to fwo slsters
at
You will read of a Prophetwho wasmarrt
the same
time(Genesis
29:28):"And Jacobdid so,andfulfilled her
week:andhe [Laban]gavehim Rachelhis daughter
to wife also"'
And anotherProphet accused
ofadultery(II Samuel
I 1:4-5):
' ' A n d D a v i d s e n t m e s s e n g e r s . a n d t o o k h e r [ t h e w i f e o r U r i a h ] ;
and she came in unto him. and l're la1' u'ith her': for she was
purifiedfromheruncleanliness:andshereturnedrrntoherhouse.
And the woman concei','ed.
and sentandtold David' andsaid'I
amuith child."
M1' questionis: How could David then be acceptedin the
g"n.uiog," of Jesusrvhetrit started
'itha personwho committed
iaul,.ry:: Allah fbrbid itl Is thisnot in contradiction
u'ith rvhatis
mentionedinDeuteronomy'23:2.'Abastardshallnotenterintothe
congregationoI theLord: evento his tenthgeneration
shallhenot
enterintothecongregation
ofthe Lord"'
Arother allegationof incestalong with rapeb1'Ammonthe
sonof Dar,idon hishalt--sister
Tamar(Il Samuel13:14):
..Hou'beit
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he (Ammon) would not hearkenunto her voice: but being stronger
than she(Tamar),forcedher, andlay with her."
Still anothermultiple rape,by Absalom on David's concubine,
was told in II Samuel16:33:"So they spreadAbsalom a tent upon
the top of the house, and Absalom went in wrto his father's
concubines in the sight ofall Israel" (I can't believethat anybody
in the world could do this, not eventhe barbarian.)
Another incest, by Judah and Tamar his daughter-inlaw:
Judah on his way to Timnath to shearhis sheepsawTamar;he
thought her to be a harlot becawe she had her face covered
(Genesis38:18): "...And he(Judah)gaveit (signet,braceletand
staff) her, andcamein unto her andsheconceivedby him."
Although Jews and Muslims are archenemies,no Muslim
would dare to write a book andstampany Israeliteprophet like
Judah,David, Jesus,etc.rape,adultery.incestor prostitution.
All Prophets were sentby Allah for the guidanceof mankind.
Do you think that God had sentthe wrong peoplefor guidance?
C. I don't think so.But don't you believein theBible?
M. We believein all Divine Scriptures.
but in theiroriginalform.
God sent to eachnationa Prophetasa wamer,andsomeof them
with a Scriptwe asa guidancefor that particularnation only. The
Suhufto Abraham.theTorah(partof theOld Testament)
to Moses,
the Zabur (Psalms)to David, and the Injeel (Gospel)to Jesus.
None of these Scriptures remain in their original form now. As
part of Allah's originalplan.He finally sentMuhammad(peacebe
upon him) as the Seal of all Prophets
with theHoly eur,an asa
guidancefor all mankind,anl.whereandanytime.
Jesushimself saidthathewassentonly to thepeopleof Israel
(Matthew 15:24): "I am not sent but unto thelost sheepof the
house of Israel."Also (Mattheu'1:21): "And he shallbring forth a
son, and thoushaltcall his nameJesus:
for heshallsavehispeople
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fromtheirsins."Heevensaidthathecamenottomakechangesbut
to fulfill (Matthew5:17-18):
*Think not thatI amcometo desffoy
the law, or theprophets:I am not cometo destroy.but to firlfill' For
verily I say unto you, Till heavenandearthpass,onejot or one
tittle shall in no wise passfrom the law, till all be fulhlled'"
C. But in Mark 16:15Jesus
said,"Go ye untoall theworld, and
preachthe gospelto everycreature."
M. This contradictswhat is mentionedaboveMatthew 15 24 and
Matthew l:21. Secondly,Mark 16:9-20 has been expungedin
many Bibles. The New American StandardBible put this part in
bracketsandwrote the following commentary:"Someof the oldest
manuscripts omit from verse 9 through 20'" The New World
Translationof theHoly Scriptures
usedby theJehovah's
witnesses
admits that certainancientmanuscriptsadd a long conclusionor a
short conclusion afterMark 16:8but someomit' And the Revised
Standard versionprints the following footnote:"Some of the most
ancient authoritiesbring thebook to a closeattheendofverse 8
..." This meansalso that the resurrection
is not trueasthisis
described
in Mark l6:9.
C. But Jesus saidin Matthew28:19:"Go ye therefore,
andteach
all nations..."
M. "All nations" must be explained as all the twelve tribes of
Israel; otherwiseit contradicts
Matthew 15:24andMatthew 1:21'
ln the New American Standard Bible and the New World
Translation of the Holy Scripfures it is not translated as "ali
nations" but as,.allthenations,"whichmeanstherwelvetribesof
Israel.Whatdo you think of theBible now?
C. My belief in it startsto shakenow'
M. I am sure you will be convincedof the authenticiry
of Islam
afterwe havediscussed
our differences.
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THE DOCTBINE OF THE TRIIiIITY
M. Do you still believein the Trinity?
C. Sure; it is written in the FinstEpistle of John(5:7 and 8): ,.For
there are three that bear record in the heaven. the Father.the
Word, andthe Holy Ghost:arrdthesethreeareone.And thereare
three that bear witness in the earth,the spirit, andthe water,and
the blood: andthesethreeagreein one."
M. Oh,thatis in theKing James
Version,authorized
in 1611,and
formed the strongestevidencefor the Doctrine of the Trinity. But
now this part, "the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost:and
these are one," has been expunged in the Revised Standard
Version of 1952 and 1911 andin many otherBibles, asit was a
glossthathad encroachedon the Greektext.
I John5:7 and8 in the New American StandardBible readsas
follows: "And it is the Spirit who bearwitness,becausethe Spirit
is truth. For there are three that bearwitness,the Spirit antthe
water and the blood. andthe threeare in agreement."Also. in the
New World Translation of the Holy Scripture used by the
Jehovah's Witnesses,you will find: "For therearethreewitness
bearers. the spirit andthe waterandthe blood, andthe threearein
agreement."I canunderstandif you don't know thatthis important
part has been removed, but I wonder why manyministersand
preachersarenot awareofthis.
The Trinity is not Biblical, The Word Trinity is not evenin the
Bible or Bible dictionaries, was never taught by Jesusandwas
never mentionedby him. There is no basisor proof in theBible
whatsoeverfor the acceptance
of the Trinity.
C. But in Matthew 28:19 we srill find: ". ..baptizingthemin the
name of the Father,andof the Son.andof theHoly Spirit." This
partis not removedyet;is thisnot a proof of Trinity?
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M. No. If you mentionthreepersonsaresitting or eatingtogether'
does it mean that they are forming one person? No' The
formulation of the Trinity by Athanasius,anEgyptiandeaconfrom
Alexandria, was acceptedby theCouncilof Nicaeain A'D' 325'
i.e. morethanthreecenturiesafter Jesushad left' No doubtRoman
paganism had influence in this doctrine.the triure godl Sabbath
wai shifted to Sunday; December25. rvhichwasthe birthday of
their sun-god Mithra' wasintroducedasJesus'birthday, although
the Bible clearly predicted and forbade the decoration of
Christmastrees in Jeremiah l0:2-5: "Thus saiththeLord' Leam
not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayedat the sigrrof
heaven; foi theheathenaredismayedat them' For the customsof
the peoplearevain; for onecuttethatreeout ofthe forest,the work
of ti,e hundsof the workman' with the axe' They deckit with silver
andwithgold,theyfastenitwithnailsandwithhammers,thatit
move not. They are upright asthe palm tree.bur speaknot: they
must needsbe bome, becausethey cannot go' Be not afraidof
them;for theycannotdo evil. neitheralsois it in themto do good'"
BecauseChristianityhad deviateda long way from the original
teachings of Jesus,
Allah thensentaspartof His originalplanHis
lastProphet,Muhammad,asrevivalistto restoreall thesechanges:
the Roman Julian calendar introduced asthe Christianera;pork
not prohibited; circumcisionabolishedby Paul (Galatians
5:2):
"Behold. I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised'
Christ
shaliprofit Younothing."
The Holy Qur'an wams in Surah: 5:73: "Surely they are
disbelievers.
thosewho said:'Aliah is oneof thethreein aTrinity.'
But therein nonewho hastheright to beworshipped
but oneGod
(l.e. Allah). And if they ceasenot from whatthey say'verily a
oainfultormentwillbefallthedisbelieversamongthem'''Doyou
,titl b.li"u" in the Trinity which wasnevertaughtby Jesus?
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C. But God andJesusareone(John 14:l l ):
..Believeme that I am
in the Father,andthe Fatherin me."
M. ReadthenJohn17:21.
C. "That they (the disciples)all may be one;asthou, Father,art in
me, andI in thee,thatthey may alsobe onein us ..."
M. It is clear here that God andJesusareone,but alsoAut tt e
disciplesrueonein JesusandGod. If Jesusis God because
he is in
God, why arethe disciplesthennot God, asthey all arelike Jesus
also in God? If God, Jesusandthe Holy Ghostform oneunit of
Trinity, then with the disciplesincludedthey shouldform a God
unit offifteen.
C. But Jesus
is God according
to John l4:9:,,... hethathathseen
me hath seenthe Father."
M. See to the context now-what is beforeandafter this: (John
14:8): "Philip saith utto him, Lord, shew us theFather,andit
suf[rceth us." (John 14:9): "Jesus saithunto him, haveI beenso
long time with you, and yet hastthou not known me, philip? he
that hath seen me hastseenthe Father;andhow sayestthou then,
Shewusthe Father?"
So frnally Jesusasked Philiphowto showthe appearance
of
God to the disciples,which is not possible.you shouldbelievein
God by admiringhis creation:the sun,the moon, all creation,and
Jesushimself who wascreatedby God. He said(John4:24): .,God
is a Spirit..." and(John5:37):"...ye haveneitherheardhis voice
at any time, nor seen his shape."How canyou seea spirit then?
What they sawwasJesusandnot God. Also, paul said(I Timothy
6:16): 'i...whom no man hath seen,nor cansee...,'Sowhatyou
canseeis neverGod.
Our Holy Qtu'an says(Surah6:103):,,Vision
comprehendeth
Him not, but He comprehendeth
(all) vision. He is the Subtle.the
Aware."
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C. To be honest,it is difficult to denywhat hasbeentaughtto us
sincechildhood.
M. Maybe the following questions will give you a better
understanding of the Trinity: What is the Holy Spirit?
C. The Holy is the Holy Ghost,is alsoGod. We aretaught,the
Father is God, the Sonis God, the Holy Ghostis God' We arenot
allowedto ThreeGods,but OneGod.
M. ReadMatthew1:18.
C. 'Now the birth of JesusChrist wason this wise: When ashis
mother Mary wasespoused
to Joseph,beforethey cametogether,
shewas found with child of the Holy Ghost'"
M. ComparenowwithLuke1:26and27.
C. "And in the sixth month the angelGabriel wassentfrom God
unto a city of Galilee,namedNazareth,To a virgin espoused
to a
man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; andthe
virgin' namewasMary'"
M. So in the miraculous birthofJesus,Matthewmentionedthe
Holy Ghost andLuke mentionedthe angleGabriel. What is Holy
Ghostthen?
C. TheHoly Ghostis theangelGabriel.
M. Do you still believein theTrinity now?
C. The God is God, the Holy Ghostor the Holy Spirit is the angel
Gabriel,andJesus
is...
M. Let me helpyou: Jesus
is a Prophet,sonof Mary'
C. How canyou solvewhat we call a mystery?
M. We use the Holy Qur'an as the standardto correctchanges
made by men in the previouslyrevealedscriptures'If you cannow
believein OneGod,andJesus,
sonof Mary' why don't you go one
step further andacceptMuhammadasthe Last Messenger?
Read
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with the Shahadahor Witness(Testimony),first in English,then
in Arabic.
C. I bear witnessthat thereis no deity exceptAllah, Who hasno
partner, andMuhammadis His slaveservantandmessenger,
Ash-
hadu an-la ilaha illallahu wahdahula shareekalahu wa ash-hadu
anna Muhammadan 'abduhu
wa rasuluhu.
Bu what about my great-€trandparents?
I would like to stay
with them; they wereall Christians.
M. Abraham left his parents and great-grandparents
when the
Truth, i.e.Islam,wasrevealedto him. Everyoneis responsible
for
himself. Maybe the Truth hadn't cometo your ancestorasclearly
as it comes to you now. The Holy Qur'ansaysin Surah17:15:
"Whoever goes right, then. he goesright only for his own soul's
benefit, And whoever goes astray, thenhe goesright only to his
own loss. No laden soulcanbearanother,s
load.And We never
punishuntil We havesentanapostle(to givewamings).,'
Sothetmth hascometo you now andit is up to you.
C. Is it not possibleto acceptbothIslamandChristianity?
M. There is no compulsionin religion. You cando whateveryou
want. But if you combinebothfaiths.you haven'tsurenderedto
Allah yet. You arestill a disbeliever.
asHe states
in Surah4:150-
152: "Verily thosewho disbelieve
in Allah andHis messengers
and
wish to make distinction betweenAllah andHis messengers
(by
believing in Allah and His messengers)
saying, ,We believein
some and reject others,' andwishto takea way in between[this
and] that: They are disbelieversin. And We haveprepared
for
disbelievers a humiliating torment.To thosewho believein Allah
and His messengers
andmakeno distinctionbefweenany of them
(messengers),We shall give them their rewards,andAllah is ever
oft-Forgiving,Most Merciful."
You may later agreewith me if we discussfi.uther.
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C. Is it not thatwe do not makeanyConfessionor Shahadah,
so
thatwe arenot committed?
M. As soon as you reach adulthoodand you are mentally
competent,you are thencommittedwhetheryou make Shahadah
or not. Allah createdthisworld not for nothing,He hassupplied
you with the organsto differentiatebefweenright or wrong. He has
sent manyProphetsaswarners.We arecreatedto worshipHim and
that we may competewith eachotherin good deedsin this world.
Surah3:191: "...Our Lord! You have not created
(all)this
withoutpurpose,
Gloryto You!..."
Surah 90:8-10: "Have We not madefor him (mankind)a pair
of eyes?And a tongueanda pair of lips?And showhim thetwo
ways(goodandevil)?"
Surah 51:56:"And I created
not theJinnsandmankindexcept
they should worship Me [alone]."Everydeedfor thepleasure
of
Allah is worship.
Surah l8:7: "Verilyl We havemadethatwhichis on earthas
an adorationfor it (the earth) in order that We maytestthem
(mankind)asto which of themis betterin deeds."
THE DOCTRINE OF THE DIVINITY
OF JESUS CHBIST
M. is Jesus
God?
C. Yes. In theGospelaccordingto John(1:1):"In thebeginning
was the Word, and the Word waswith God' andthe Word was
LroO.
M. We have agreedthat a Hol-v Scripnue should not contain
contradictions.If there are two conflictingverses.
thenonly one
canbetrue:bothcanneverbe trueor both arewrong.
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Jesusis then God accordingto John 1:1.Thenhow many Gods
are there? Two at least. This thenis in contradictionwith many
passagesin theBible: (Deuteronomy
4:39):"...that theLord he is
God in heaven above, and upon the earthbeneath:thereis non
else"; (Deuteronomy6:4): "Hear, O Israel:The Lord our God is
one Lord"; (lsaiah 43:I 0-I 1): ". ..that ye mayknow andbelieve
me. and understandthat I am he: before me therewasno God
formed. neithershalltherebe after me. I, evenI, am the Lord; and
besideme thereis no saviour";(Isaiah44:6):"ThussaiththeLord
... I am the first, and I am the last; andbesideme thereis no
God": (Isaiah45:18):" For thus saiththeLordthatcreatedthe
heavens; God himself that formedthe earthandmadeit; he hath
establishedit. he createdit not in vain, he formed it to be
inhabited:I amtheLord; andthereis noneelse."
Irrom Isaiah 45:18alonewe canconcludethatGod alonewas
the Creator and no one else. not evenJesus,
participated
in the
creation.
See furlher: Deuteronomy
4:35;Exodus8:10;II Samuel
7:22;
I Kings 8:23:I Chronicles17:20;
Psalms
86:8,89:6
andll3:5;
IJoscaI3:4; Zechariahl4:9.
Cl. Ilut thesc are all in theOld Testament.
Do you find it in the
Neq''i esianrent?
ftt. Sure.Readin Mark 12:29r.vhat
Jesus
himselfsaid:"And Jesus
r-'rrsvrered
hirn. fhe tlrst of all the commandments
is. Hear,O
l:,r;ri
'i'iic
i.orclor.rr
(iod is onel-ord."
(l Cor;.nttrians):
"...we know that an idoi is nothing inthe
world, andthatthereis noneotherGod but one."(I Timothy 2:5):
"For there is one God.andonemediatorbefweenGod andmen,
thc man Christ Jesus."Look to the expression
"themanChrist
Jesus."Now you caneithersaythatJohn1:l is right andall these
otherverses
arewrong.or thereverse.
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C. Difficult to judge!
M. Let us see it from the Qur'anic point view, and this
correspondswith what Jesushimself said in the Bible. Jesusis
mentioned several times in the Qur'an as a Word of Allah. In
Stuah 3:39: "Then the angelscalledto him (Zechariah)while he
was standing in prayer in the chamber(saying):Allah givesyou
glad tidings of John [theBaptist] believing in a Word from Allah,
noble, keepingawayfrom sexualrelationswith woman,a prophet,
andoneofthe righteous."
In thesameSurah3, againmentionedin verse45: "[Remember]
when theangelssaid:"O Mary! Verily Allah givesyou glad tidings
of a Word from Him, his namewill be MessiahJesus,the sonof
Mary, held in honor in this world andthe Hereafter,andof those
who arenearto Allah." In both versesof the Holy Qur'an Jesusis
also called a Word from Allah, i.e.a Word comingfrom Allah or
belonging to Allah, in correspondence
with I Corinthians
3:23:
"And ye are Christ's; andChristis God's." JohnI :I shouldalso
have beenwritten: "... and the WordwasGod's."Themistake
could have been in the translation from Aramaic to Greek'
deliberately or not. In the Greek language Theos is God, but
Theou meansGod's (see a Greek Dictionary, Greek Bible, or
Muhammad in the Bible by Prof. Abdul-Ahad Dawud, former
Bishop of Uramiah. pagel6). A differenceof only oneletterbut
big consequences.
C. Why is Jesus
calledtheWord of God in both Scriptures?
M. The creation of Jesusin the womb of Mary waswithout the
agencyof a sperm,just only with thedecreeof Allah: "8e," as
mentionedin the sameSurah3:47:"She(Mary) said:'O my Lord!
How shall I have a sonwhenno manhastouchedme.' He said:
'So
[it wili be], for Ailah createswhat He will. WhenHe has
decreedsomething,
He saysto it only."Be." andit is."'
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C. Jesus
is Godbecause
he is filled with theHoly Spirit.
M. Why don't you consider other people divine who arealso
filled with theHoly Ghost?(Acts 11:24):"For he(Bamabas)
was
a good man, and full of the Holy Ghostandof faith; andmuch
people was added unto the Lord." (Acts 5:32):"And we arehis
witnessesof these things; and so is alsothe Holy Ghost,whom
God hath given to themthat obeyhim."
See further Acts 6:5; II Peter l:21:' II Timothy l:14:' I
Corinthians
2:16;Luke l:41.
C. But Jesuswas filled with theHoly Ghostwhile hewasstill in
his mother'swomb.
M. The samewastruewith JohntheBaptist(Luke I :13.l5): "But
the nngel said unto him. Fear not, Zachatias: For thy prayeris
heard; and thy wife Elizabethshallbeartheea son.andthou shalt
be filled with theHoly Ghost.evenfrom hismother'swomb."
C. But Jesus
coulddo miracles.He fed five thousand
peoplewith
only five loavesandtwo fishes.
M.
'fhe
samewasdoneby ElishaandElijah.Elishahfeda hundred
people with twenfybarleyloavesanda few earsof corn(II Kings
4:44): "So he setit beforethem,andtheydid eat,andleft thereof,
accordingto theword of theLord." Elishasecured
theincrease
of a
widow's oil andhesaidto her(II Kings4:7):"Go. selltheoil, and
pa)' thy debt.andlive thouandthy'chiidrenofthe rest."SeealsoI
Kings 17:16: ''And thebarrelof mealwasted
not.neither
did the
cruseof oil fail. accor:ding
to the'"r'ord
of the Lord,which he speak
hy .l':iiiaii."
AlsoI Kings 17:6:"And theravenbroughthim (Elijah)
irreadanclfleshin thenrorning,breadanclfieshin theevening;and
ireciralrk
of thebrook.''
C. lliii.iesuscu;lri hr:allepros).
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M. Also Elisha told Naaman who was a leper to washin the
Jordan river (II Kings 5:14): "Then went he (Naaman)down, and
dipped himself seven times in Jordan,accordingto the sayingof
the man of God (Elisha):andhis fleshcameagainlike rmto a flesh
of little child, andhe wasclean."
C. But Jesuscould causea blind manto seeagain.
M. Also Elishadid (II Kings 6:17):"And Elishaprayed,andsaid,
Lord, I pray thee, open his eyes.thathe may see.And the Lord
openedthe eyesof theyowrgman:andhe saw..." (II Kings 6:20):
"And it came to pass. when they were comeintc Samaria.that
Elisha said, Lord open the eyesof thesemen,thatthey may see.
And the Lord opened the eyes, and they saw;andbehold.they
were in the midst of Samaria."
Elisha was also told to causeblindness
(II Kings 6:l8): "And
when they came down to him, Elishaprayedunto the Lord. and
said, Smite this people.I praythee,with blindness.
And he smote
themwith blindness
according
to theword of Elisha."
C. Jesus
couldraisethedead.
M. Comparewith Elijah (l Kings 17:22):"And theLord heardthe
voice of Elijah: andthesoulof thechild cameinto him again'and
revived." Comparealso with Elisha (ll Kings 4:34): "And he
(Elisha) went up, andlay uponthe child, andput his mouth upon
his mouth. and his e)'esupotl his e1'es,andhishandsuponhis
hands;andhe stretched
himselfuponthechild:andthefleshof the
child uaxcd rvann."
Eventhedeaci
bonesof Elishacouldrestorea deadbodi'to lif'e
by touchingoniy (ll Kings 13:21):
"And it cameto fass.asihc-
rvere burying a man. that behold.theyspieda bandof men:and
they cast the maninto thesepulchre
of Elisha:andwhcntheman
was lei down. and touchedthe bonesof Eiislia.herevived,anci
stoodup on his feet."
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C. But Jesuswalkedupon the water.
M. Moses stretched out his arms over the sea(Exodus 14:22):
"And the children of Israelwent into the midst of the seauponthe
dry ground; and the waters were a wall unto them on the right
hand,andon their 1eft."
C. But Jesus
couldcastout devils.
M. Jesus himself adminedthat otherpeoplecould do it (Matthew
12:27 and Luke I I:I9): "An d ifby Beelzebub
castout devils,by
whom do your children cat themout?thereforeshallthey beyour
judges."
Also the disciplescould castout devils asJesussaid(Matthew
7:22): "Many will sayto me in that day,Lord, Lord, havewe not
prophesied in thy name:andin thy namehavecastout devils?and
in thy namedonemanywonderful works?"
Even falseprophetswould do wonders,asprophesiedby Jesus
himself (Matthew 24:24): "For thereshall ariseChrists,andfalse
prophets, and shall shewgreatsignsandwonders;inasmuchthat,
if it werepossible,
theyshalldeceivetheveryelect."
C. But Elijah andElishadid wondersthroughprayingto the Lord.
M. Jesus also did the miracleswith the graceof God, ashimself
said (John5:30):"l canof mineown selfdo nothing..." andLuke
(11:20): "But if I with thefingerof God castout devils,no doubt
the Kingdom of God is comeuponyou." All miraclesperformed
by Jesus hadbeendoneby previousprophets,
disciples,
andeven
wrbelievers. On the other hand, Jesus could do no mighty work
where therewasunbelief(Mark 6:5-6):"And he couldtheredo no
miShfy work, savethat thathe laid his handsupon a few sick folk.
and healedthem.And hemarvelledbecause
of theirrurbelief.
And
he wentaroundaboutthevillages,teaching."
C. But Jesus
wasresurrected
threedavsafterhedied.
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M. We will talk later abouthis crucifixion because
thereareso
many controversiesaboutit. I'll only saynow briefly that it wasa
gospel of Paul, who never saw Jesusalive (II Timothy 2:8):
"Remember that JesusChrist of the seedof David wasraisedfrom
thedeadaccording
to mYgospel."
The gospel of resurrectionin Mark 16:9-20has also been
removed in many Bibles. If not removedit is printed in smallprint
or between two brackets and with commentary' See Revised
Standard Version,New American StandardBible andNew World
Translationof theHoly Scriptures
of theJehovah's
Witnesses.
Let
me ask you one thing: did Jesuseverclaim to be God or to say.
"Heream I, your God,andworshipme"?
C. No. but he is God andman.
M. But did he everclaimthat?
C. No.
M. Indeed he had prophesiedthat people uill rvorshiphim
uselesslyand u.ill believe in doctrines notmadeb1'God but by
men (Matthew 15:9): "But in vainthel'do worshipme.teaching
for doctrines
the commandrnents
of men."
All doctrinesof modern Christianityare made by men:the
'frinity,
Divine Sonship
of Jesus.
Divinity of Jesus
C'.irrist.
Original
Sin andAtonement.
FromJesus'ownsayings,
recorded
in theNew
Testament, it is clearthat heneverclaimeddivinity or identity to
God: "I do nothingof myself' (John8:28);"My Fatheris greater
than I" (John 14:28); "The Lord ow God is onelord"(Mark
12:29); "My God, my God, why hastthou forsakenme?" (Mark
15:34); "Father,into thy handsI commendmy spirit" (Luke 23:46).
"But of that day andthat hour knowethno man,no. not the angels
which arein heaven.
neithertheSon.buttheFather"(Mark 13:32).
Jesuswascalledprophet,teacherflom God.His servant,
Messiah'
andlaterwasescalated
to Sonof God.andthenGod Himself.
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Let us now useour reason:how canGod be bom by a mortal
oneasanyothermortal?
Jesussleptwhile God neversleeps
(Psalm121:4):"Behold,he
that keepethIsraelshallneitherslumbernor sleep."God shouldbe
powerful but how could people spit on him, cruci$ him as
alleged.How could Jesusbe God if heworshipped
God asany
other mortal (Luke 5:16): "And he withdrew himself into the
wilderness,
andprayed."
Jesus
wastemptedby Satanfor forty days(Luke4:1-13)but in
James1:I 3 is said: ". ..forGodcannotbetemptedwith
evil..." How
canJesusbe God. then?We canrationalizefirrtherandfi.uther.
C. Yes. I myself can't understandit but we have to acceptit
blindly.
M. Is it not contradicting
theBible itselfwhichsaysthatyou have
to proveit (l Thessalonians
5:21):"Proveall things;hold fastthat
which is good."
C. It's reallyconfusing.
M. But I Corinthians14:33 says: "For God is not theauthorof
confusion.
but of peace,asin all churches
of the saints."
Doctrinesmadeby mencreateconfusion.
THE DOCTBINE OF THE DIVTNE
SONSHIP OF JESUS CHBIST
M. Is Jesus
Sonof God?
C. Yes.Readin Matthew3:17,whenJesus
wasbaptizedby John:
"And lo a voicefrom heaven,
saying.This is my belovedSon,in
whom I amwell pleased."
M. You should not accepttheword Sonliterally.because
many
Prophetsand we people are called in the Bible also.sonsand
childrenof God.ReadExodus4:22.
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C. *And thou (Moses) shalt say unto Pharaoh. Thus saiththe
Lord, Israelis my son,evenmy firstbom."
M. Here is Jacob (Israel)His firstborn son.Readnow II Samuel
7:13-14or I Chronicle
22:10.
C. "He (Solomon) shall build a house for my name,andI will
establishthe throneofhis kingdom for ever.I will be his father
andhe shallbemy son..."
M. It will be confusing
if you readJeremiah
31:9:"I am afatherto
Israel andEphraimis my firstborn." In Exodus4:22just now, Israel
was called firstbom, too. Who is now the real firstborn?Israelor
Ephraim?Commonpeoplecanbechildrenof God; readDeut. 14:1.
C. "Yes arethe children of the Lord your God."
M. Common people can also be called firstbom; readRomans
8:29.
C. "For whom he did foreknoq he also did predestinatebe
conformedto the imageof his Son,the he might be the firstbom of
many brethren."
M. If all arefirstbom, what is Jesusthen?
C. He is theonly begotten
sonof God.
M. Long beforeJesus
wasborn,God saidto David (Psalm2:7): "1
will declarethe decree:the Lord hathsaidunto me (David), Thou
art my Son;this dayhaveI begonenthee."SoDavid is alsoGod's
begotten Son. The meaningof Son of God is not literal but
metaphorical.It canbe anyonewho is belovedby God.Jesus
also
said that God is not only his Fatherbut alsoyour Father(Matthew
5:45,48).
C. "That you may be the children of your Father"; and "Be ye
therefore perfect. even as your Fatherwhich is in heavenis
perfect.''
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alogue 42
M. So you will see in manypassages
in the Bible "Son of God"
which signifies love andaffection' nearness
to God, no appliedto
Jesus aline. You will see sons and daughtersof God (II
Corinthians 6:18): "And will be a Fatherunto you, andye shallbe
my sonsanddaughters,saiththe Lord Almighty'" In view of these
and otherpurrug* in the Bible, thereis no reasonwhatsoeverwhy
JesusshouldberegardasSonofGod in a literal or uniquesense'
C. But hehasno father;that is why he is Sonof God'
M. Why do you considerAdam thennot asSonof God' He lacked
both father and mother, and is also called Sonof Godinluke
3:38: ". ..Seth, which wasthe sonof Adam, which wasthe sonof
God."ReadHebrews
7:3.
C. "Without father. without mother, without descent' having
neither beginningof days,nor endof life; but madelike urto the
Sonof God; abidetha priestcontinually'"
M.Whoishe?TheanswerisinHebrewsT:1:"Melchisedec'ki
of Salem,priestof themosthigh God.who metAbraham"'" He is
more urique than Jesusor Adam' Why is he not preferredto be
sonof Godor Godhimseltl"
C. Whatdo 1oucall Jesus
then?
M. We Musiirnscall him Jesus
thesonof Mary'
C. No oneu'ill den.v-
this.
M. Yes, it is simpleandnobody candeny it' Jesuscalledhimself
Sonof manandrefusedto be calledSonof God' ReadLuke 4;41'
C. "And devils aiso came out of many.crying out' andsaying'
Thou art Christ the Son of God' Andherebukingthemsuffered
thennot to speak:for they knew that he wasChrist'"
M. Jesus
who wasthe expected
Messiah.a Prophet,
wasescalated
from teacherto Sonof God.Lord' andfinally God Himself'Read
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John 3:2:'the samecameto Jesusbynight,andsaidwrtohim,
Rabbi, we know that thou art a teachercomefrom God..."; (John
6:14): "Then thosemen"whenthey had seenthe miraclethat Jesus
did, said This is of a truth that prophet should come into the
world." Jesus is alsocalledprophetin John7:40,Matthew 21:I I ,
Luke 7:16 and 24:19. (Acts 9:20): "And straightwayhe(Paul)
preached Christin thesynagogues,
thehe is the Sonof God." (You
can conclude from here alsothat early Christianswerestill using
synagogues,but laterwhen Christianifydeviatedfrom the original
teaching of Jesus,churcheswere established.
Paul,Barnabasand
the gentiles were expelled from the synagogues,as they were
accusedof blasphemyand pollution. SeeActs 13:50,17:18and
21:28.) Luke 2:11: "For unto you is bom this dayin the city of
David a Saviour,which is Christ the Lord." John 1:1:"Inthe
beginning was the Word, andWord waswith God. andthe Word
wasGod."
WAS JESUS CRUCIFIED?
M. The Holy Qur'an statesin Surah 4:157 that Jesuswasnot
crucified: "And their (Jews')boasting:'We killed MessiahJesus.
son of Mary,theApostleof Allah.' butthey(Jews)kill him not.nor
crucifiedhim..." Do you still believethathe diedon thecross?
C. Yes, he died andwasthenresurrected.
M. We all agreethatnobody sawthe momenthewasresturected.
They forurd the sepulchrewhereJesuswaslaid doun, empty and
made theconclusion
thathewasresurrected
because
the disciples
and other witnessessaw him alive afterthe allegedcrucihxion.
Could it not be possible,
astheQur'anclaims,thathe didn't die
on the cross?
C. Whereis theproofthen?
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M. Let us see passages
in the Bible supporlingthe evidence'Do
you give more weight to what Jesus said or to hearsayof the
disciples,apostleandotherwitnesses?
C. Of coursemoreto Jesushimself.
M. That is in accordance
with what Jesussaid(Matt. l0:24): "The
disciple is not abovehis master,nor the servantabovehis lord'"
C. But Jesushimself said that he will arisefrom the dead(Luke
24:46): "And said unto them, Thus it is written' and thus it
behovedChrist to suffer,andto rise from the deadthe third day."
M. Suffering is often exaggerated
in the Bible andtermed"dead"
as Paul said (I Corinthians15:31): "I protestbyyourrejoicing
which I have in Christ, I die daily." (i.e. I sufferdaily). Here are
someof theproofs:
1. On thecrosshebeseeched
God for heip (Matthew27:46):"My
God. my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" And in Luke
2242 "Saying, Fatherif thou be willing, removethis cup from
me: nevertheless
not my will. but thine,be done."(This cup is
thecupof death.)
2. Jesus'prayer not to die on the crosswasaccepted
by God,
according to Luke, Hebrervs and James.Then how could he
still die on the cross? (Luke 22:43):"Andthereappearedan
angel unto him from heaven,strengthening
him." It meansthat
an angel assuredhim that God would not left him heipless'
(Hebrews 5:7): "Who in thedaysof his flesh.u'henhe (Jesus)
had offered up prayers and suppiications with strongcrying
and tearsunto him that wasablesavehim from death,andwas
heardin that he feared."
Jesus' prayer were hereheard,which meansansweredin a
positive way by God. (James5:16):"...The effectualfervent
prayer of a righteous man availethmuch." Jesushimself said
(Matthew 7:7-10): "Ask, and it shall be givenyou; seek.and
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ye shall find; knock, andit shallbe openedunto you; For every
one that asketh receiveth; andhe that seekethfindeth, andto
him who knockethit shall be opened.Or what man is thereof
you, whom if his sonaskbread,will he give him a stone?Or if
he ask fish, will he give him a serpent?"Ifall Jesus'prayer
were acceptedby God, including not to die on the cross,how
could he still die on the crossthen?
3. His legs were not brokenby the Romansoldiers(John 19:32-
33): "Then camethesoldiers.andbrakethelegsof the frst, and
of the otherwhich wascrucified with him. But whenthey came
to Jesus, andsawthat he wasdeadalready,they brakenot his
legs." Canyou rely on thesesoldiersfor pronowrcingthe death.
or did they want to saveJesusasthey found him innocent?
4. If Jesusdied on the cross,his bioodwould clot andno blood
would gushout of his body whenhis sidewaspierced.But the
Gospel statesthat blood and water cameout;(John19:34):
"But one of the soldierswith a spearpierced his side,and
forthwith camethereout blood andwater."
5. When thePharisees
askedJesusfor a signof his truemissionhe
answered(Matt. 12:40):"For asJonaswasthreedaysandthree
nights in the whale's belly, so shall the Sonof man be three
days andthreenightsin the heartof the earth." Disregardnow
the time factor, which was alsonot threedaysandthreenights
but one day (Sanrday, daytimeonly) andtwo nights (Friday
night and Saturday night). Was Jonasalive in the belly of the
whale?
C. Yes.
M. Was Jonas still alive whenhe wasvomited out of the bellv of
the whale?
C. Yes.
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M. Then Jesuswas still alive ashe prophesied'
6.Jesushimself statedthathedidn't die onthecross'Early Sunday
morning Mary Magdalene went to the sepulchre,which was
empty. She saw somebody who looked like a gardener'She
recognized him after conversation to be Jesusandwantedto
touch him. Jesussaid(John20:17): "Touch menoq for I amnot
yet ascended
to my Father...""Touchmenot,"perhaps
because
the freshworutdwould hurt him. "I amnot yet ascended
to my
Father," means that he wasstill alive' not deadyet, becauseif
somebody dies,thenhe goesback to the Creator'This wasthe
strongestproof admittedby Jesushimself'
7. After the allegedcrucifixion the disciplesthoughtthat hewas
not the same Jesus in body but spiritualized, because
restrrrected
bodiesare spirirualized.
c. Intem_rption.
How could you be surethat resurrectedbodiesare
spiritualized?
M. That is what Jesushimself saidin the Bible: that they areequal
to angels.
C. Wherein theBible.
M. In Luke 2A34-36: "And answering said unto them' The
children of the world Mary, andaregiven in marriage'But they
which shall be accountedworthy to obtainthatworld, andthen
resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in
marriage: Neither can they die anymore for they areequalr'rnto
the angels;.and arethe children of God. beingthe children of the
resurrection."
Then Jesusconvincedthembv lening themtouch his handsand
feet, that he was thesameperson.As theycouldnot believehim
yet. he askedfor meatto showthemthathe stiil atelike anyliving
individuai. ReadLuke 24:36-41:"And asthey(thedisciples)
thus
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spake, Jesus
himselfstoodinthe midstofthem, andsaithuntothem,
Peacebe unto you. But theywereterrified andthefrightened,and
supposedthat theyhad seena spirit, And he saidwrto them,Why
are ye troubled?andwhy do thoughtsarisein your hearts?Behold
my handsandmy feet.that it is I myself: handleme, andsee;for a
spirit hathno fleshandbones,asye seeme have.And when hehad
thus spoken,heshewedthemhis handsandhis feet.And while they
yet believednot for joy, andwondered,hesaidunto them,Haveye
here anymeat?And theygavehim apieceof broiled fish. andof an
honeycomb.And he took it, anddid eatbefore them."
8.If you still believethathe diedon the cross,thenhewasa false
Prophet and accursedof God accordingto thesepassages:
(Deuteronomy13:5): "And that prophet, or thatdreamerof
dreams, hall be put to death..."; (Deuteronomy2l:22-23):
"And if a manhavecommitteda sin worthy of death,andhe be
to be put to death,andthou hanghim on a tree:His body shali
not remain all night upon thetree,but thou shaltin anywise
bury him that day;(forhe thatis hangedis accursed
ofGod;)
that thy land be not defiled, which the I.ord thy God giveth
theefor an inheritance."
To believe in his death on the cross is to discredithid
prophethood.The Jewsmaintained
to havekilled Jesus
on the
cross and consequently
have to acceptthe accursedness
of
Jesrrs,too.this Christianbelieferpposes
theRible'steachingin
Llosea6:6: '"Fol I desirerlmercy and not sacrifice;andthe
knor.vledge
of God morethanburnt-offering."It alsoopposes
Jesus' own teaching(Matthew 9:13): "But go ye andleam
what that meaneth,I will have mercy, andnotsacrifltce..."
Again Jesussaid (Matthewl2:7): "But if ye hadknownwhat
this meaneth, I will have mercy.andnot sacrifice,ye would
nothavecondemned
the zuiltless."
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C. Why do peoplebelievein the resurrectionthen?
M. It wasPaulwho taughtthe resurrections(Acts 17:18): ". ..And
some (Jews)said,Whatwill thisbabblersay?othersome,He (Paul)
seemethto be a setterforth ofstrange gods:because
he preached
unto them Jesus,andthe resurrection."Paul,who neversawJesus,
also admitted that the resurrection was his gospel (II Timothy
2:8): "Rememberthat JesusChrist of the seedof David wasraised
from the deadaccordingto my gospel."He wasalsothe first who
declared Jesusas Son of God (Acts 9:20): "And straightwayhe
(Paul) preached Christ in the synagogues,that he is the Sonof
God." So Christianity is not a teachingof Jesusbut Paul.
C. But Mark (16:19)mentioned
thatJesus
wasraisedup to heaven
and sat on the right hand of God: "So thenafterthe Lord had
spoken unto them,he wasreceivedup into heaven,andsaton the
right handof God."
M. As I told you underthe discussionof the Holy Bible that Mark
16, verses9-20, were expunged
in certainBibles.Seeremarkin
the Revised StandardVersion,the New American StandardBible
and the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures of the
Jehovah's WitnessesChurch. If you still believe that Jesusis
divine because hewasraisedup to heaven,why don't you accept
otherProphetsasdivine who were alsoraisedup to heaven?
C. Who were they?
M. El{ah (II Kings 2:11-12): "...and Elijah went up by the
whirlwind into heaven. AndElisha sawit. andhe cried...Andhe
saw him no more ..." Also Enochwastakenby Godto heaven
(Genesis5:24):"And Enochwalkedwith God; andhe wasnot; for
God took him." This was also repeatedinHebrews
1l:15: "By
faith Enoch was translated thathe shouldnot seedeath;andwas
not found. because
God translated
him; for beforehis translations
he hadthis testimony,
thathe pleased
God."
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THE DOCTBINE OF ATONEMENT
AND OBIGINAL SIN
C. So redemption of sin rhrough the crucifixion is not Jesru'
teaching?
M. This is theDoctrineof Atonementaccepted
by theChurchthree
to four centuriesafterJesusleft the earth.It contradictsthe Bible
itselfasthefollowingpassages
show:(Deut.24:16):"The fathers
shallnot be put to deathfor the children,neithershallthe children
be put to deathfor the fathers:everyman shallbe put to deathfor
his own sin." (Jeremiah
3l:30): "But everyoneshalldie for his
own iniquify" (Ezekiel18:20):"The soulthatsinneth,
it shalldie.
The sonshallnot bearthe iniquity ofthe father,neithershallthe
fatherbeartheiniquity ofthe son:therighteousness
ofthe righteous
shallbeuponhim, andthewickednessof thewicked shallbe upon
him." SoAdam andEve wereresponsiblefor their own sin, which
hadalsobeenforgivenby Allah according
to theIslamicversion."
C. But thesearein the Old Testament.
M. ReadwhatJesus
himselfsaidin Matthew7:l artd2.
C. "Judge not, that ye benotjudged.For with whatjudgmentye
judge, ye shallbejudged:andwith whatmeasure
ye mete,it shall
bemeasured
to you again."
M. ReadI Corinthians
3:8.
C. 'Now he thatplantethandhethat waterethareone,andevery
man shall receive his own rewardaccording
to his own labour."
But we believein OriginalSin!
M. Do you still wantmeto provethatchildrenarebom without
sin?ReadMafthew19:14.
C, "But Jesus said. Suffer little children,andforbid them not, to
comeuntome: for of suchis thekingdomof heaven."
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M. So everybodyis born without sin andall childrenbelongto the
kingdom of heaven.Do you know that it wasPaulwho abolished
theMosaicLaw?ReadActs 13:39.
C. "And by him all thatbelievearejustifred from all things,from
whichye couldnot bejustifiedby the law of Moses'"
M. Let me aska question.
Why do you believein theresurrection
if Paul himself, who neversawJesusalive, admiffedthatthis was
his gospel?
C. Whereis it written?
M. ReadII Timothy2:8.
C. "Rememberthat JesusChristof the seedof David wasraised
from the dead accordingto my gospel." But why have we to
believethathewascrucifiedandraisedfrom thedead?
M. Yes. I do not know even. Islamis basedon reasonandis a
pure teachingof all Prophetsof Allah not contaminatedwith
paganism
andsuperstition.
C. Thatis whatI amlookingfor'
M. Why don'tyou consider
theShahadah
(Witness)or Testimony,
first in English,thenin Arabic.Let me helpyou pronounce
it'
C. I bear witnessthat there is no deity but Allah Who hasno
partner andI bearwitnessthatMuhammadis His slaveservantand
messenger.
Ash-hadttan-la Ilahtt illullahu wtthdahula shareeka
lahu wa ash-haclu
annuMuhantntadan
'abduhuwa rctstrluhuHas
ProphetMuhammad(PBUH) thenbeenprophesied
in theBible?
M. Yes. but it is not necessary
for a Muslim to know it from the
Bible.As you havestudiedtheBible I would like to discuss
it with
you briefly nexttime.
N. B.: The rest of thediscussion
will be conducted
between
fwo
Muslims:M andm.
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IIUHAIUMAD IN THE BIBLE
Borh lshmael and Isaac Were Blessed
M. Why did Ishmaeiandhis motherHagarleaveSarah?
m. After Isaac was weaned, his mother Sarah saw Ishmael
mocking him, and didn't want Ishmael to be heir with her son
Isaac (Genesis21:8-10): "And the child grew,andwasweaned:
and Abraham made a great feast the same day that Isaacwas
weaned. And Sarahsawthe sonof Hagarthe Egyptian,which she
had bom unto Abraham, mocking. Wherefore she said unto
Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son:for the sonof
this bondwomanshallnot be heir with my son,evenwith Isaac'"
M. Isaac was about two yearsold whenhewasweaned'Ishmael
was then sixteenyearsbecause
Abrahamwaseighty-sixyearsold
when Hagarbore Ishmaelandwasa hundredyearsold when Isaac
was bom, according
to Genesis16:16:"And Abramwasfourscore
and six years old, when'Hagar bare Ishmael to Abram," and
Genesis 2l:5: "And Abrahamwasanhundredyearsold, whenhis
son Isaac was born rnto him." Genesis21:8-10 is then in
conffadiction with Genesis21:14-21whereIshmaelwasportrayed
as a baby put on the shoulderof his mother,called lad andchild.
when both left Sarah:"And Abrahamroseup early in the morning,
and took bread, and a boftle of water. andgaveit unto Hagar,
putting it on her shoulder,
andthechild.... Arise,lift up thelad.
and hold him in thine hand..." This wasthe profile of a baby and
not of a teenager.SoIshmaelandhis motherHagarleft Sarahlong
before lsaacwasbom. According to the Islamic version,Abraham
took Ishmael and Hagar and made a new settlementin Mecca.
called Paran in the Bible (Genesis21:21), becauseof adivine
insffuction given to Abraham as part of God'splan.Hagarran
seven times between two hills, Safa and Marwah. looking for
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water; this becamethen an Islamic ritual for the annualpilgrimage
in Mecca by millions of Muslims from all over the world. The
well of water mentionedin Genesis21:19 is stillpresent,now
called Zarnzarrr.Both Abraham and Ishmael; later built the holy
stone Ka'bah in Mecca.The spotwhereAbrahamusedto perform
prayers near the Ka'bah is still present, now called Maqam
Ibrahim, i.e. the Station of Abraham. During the days of
Pilgrimage, Pilgrims in Mecca and Muslims all over the world
commemorate the offering of Abraham and Ishmael by
slaughteringcattle.
m. But the Bible mentionsIsaacto be sacrificed.
M. No, the Islamic version statesthat covenant betweenGod,
Abraham and his only son Ishmael was madeandsealedwhen
Ishmael wassupposed
to be sacrificed.And on the samedaywere
Abraham, Ishmaelandall men of the householdcircumcisedwhile
Isaacwas not even bomyet(Genesis17:24-27):
"AndAbraham
was ninety years old and nine, when he wascircumcisedin the
flesh of his foreskin. And Ishmaelhis sonwasthirteenyearsold,
when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin. In the
selfsamedaywasAbrahamcircumcised.andIshmaelhis son.And
all the men of his house, bom in the house, and boughtwith
moneyof the stranger,were circumcisedwith him."
A yearlaterIsaacwasbom andcircumcisedwhenhe waseight
days old (Genesis21:4-5): "And Abraham circumcised
his son
Isaac being eight days old. as God had commanded
him. And
Abraham was an hundredyearsold, whenhis sonIsaacwasborn
unto him."
So whenthecovenant
wasmadeandsealed
(circumcision
and
sacrifice) Abraham wasninet-v-nine
andIshmaeithirteenyearsold.
Isaac *'as born a year later whenAbrahamwasa hundredyears
old.
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The descendantsof Ishmael, Prophet Muhammad (PBUT),
including all Muslims, remain faithfrl until today this covenantof
circumcision. In their prayers at least five times a day the Muslims
include the praiseof Abrahamandhis descendants
with the praise
of Muhammad (PBUH) andhis descendants.
m. But in Genesis22 it is mentionedthatIsaacwasto be sacrificed!
M. I know it, but you will see the contradiction there. It is
mentioned there "thine only sonIsaac."Shouldit not havebeen
unitten "thine only sonIshmael" when Ishmael wasthirteen years
old and Isaac not born yet?When Isaacwasborn Abrahamhad
two sons. Because of chauvinismthe nameIshmaelwas changed
to Isaac in all of Genesis22, but God hadpreservedthe word
"only" to showuswhat it shouldhavebeen.
The words "I will multiply thy seed" in Genesis
22:17was
applied earlier to Ishmael in Genesis16:10. Was thewholeof
Genesis 22 not applicable to Ishmael then? "I will makehim a
great nation" had been repeated fwice for Ishmael in Genesis
17:20andGenesis
21:18, andneverappliedto Isaacat all.
m. The Jews and Christians maintain that Isaacwassuoeriorto
Ishmael.
M. That is what they saybut not what the Bible states(Genesis
15:4): "And, behold, the word of the Lord came rmto him
(Abraham), saying, This (Eliezer of Damascus)shallnot be thine
heir, but that shall come forth out of thine own bowelsshall be
thine heir." So Ishmaelwasalsoheir.
Genesis 16:10: "And the angel of the Lord said unto her
(Hagar), I will multiply thy seedexceedingly,that it shallnot be
numberedfor multitude."
Genesis 17:20: "And as for Ishmael,I have heard thee:
Behold, I have blessed him, andwill makehim fruitful, andwill
makehim a sreatnation."
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Genesis 21:13:"And alsoof the sonof bondwoman
will make
a greatnation because
he is thy seed."
Genesis 2I :18: "Arise, lift up the lad, andhold him in thine
hand;for I will makehim a greatnation."
Deuteronomy
2l:15-17 "If amanhavetwo wives,onebeloved,
and another hated, and they have born him children, both the
beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn sonbe hersthatwas
hated: Then it shall be, when he makethhis sonsto inherit that
which he hath, that he may not make the son of the beloved
firstbom beforethe sonof the hated,which is indeedthe firstborn:
But he shall acknowledgethe sonof the hatedfor the firstbom. by
giving him a double portion of all that he hath: for he is the
beginrring of his strength; the right ofthe firstborn is his." Islam
does not denyGod's blessingon Isaacandhis descendants'
but the
son of promise is Ishmael from whom later aroseMuhammad
(PBUH) asthesealof theProPhets.
m. But ChristiansandJewsclaim that Ishmaelwasan illegitimate
son.
M. That is what they say.but not what the Bible states.How could
a greatProphetlike Abrahamhavean illegal wife anda sonout of
wedlock!
Genesis16:3:"And Sarai.Abram'swife, took Hagarhermaid,
the Egyptian, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of
Canaan, andgaveher to her husbandAbram to be his wife." If the
marriagewas legal,how couldtheir offspringbe illegalthen!Is a
mariage befweenfwo foreigners,a ChaldeanandanEgyptian,not
more legal than a marriagebenveena man with a daughterof his
father? Whether it was a lie of Abraham or not, it is statedin
Genesis20:12:"And yet indeedshe(Sarah)is my sister;sheis the
daughter of my father,but not the daughterof my mother; andshe
becamemy wife."
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The nameIshmaelwasalsochosenby Allah Himself (Genesis
l6: I I ); "And the Angel of the Lord saidunto her (Hagar),Behold,
thou art with child, and shaltbeara son.andshaltcall his name
Ishmael, because the Lord hath heard thy affliction." Ishmael
meansGod hears.And wherein the Bible is it unitten that Ishmael
was an Illegitimate son?
m. Nowhere in the Bible.
M. Long before both IshmaelandIsaacwerebom, Allah madea
covenantwith Abraham(Genesis15:18):"...saying,Unto thy seed
have I given this land,from the river of Egypt rurtothe greatriver,
the Euphrates." Was not the greaterpart of Arabia lying between
the Nile and the Euphrates,where later all the descendants
of
Ishmaelwere settling?
m. Do you mean that no land was promised to Isaac andhis
descendants?
M. We Muslims never deny that Isaac was also blessed. See
Genesisl7:8: "And I will give untothee,andto thy seed(Isaac)
after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of
Canaan,
for aneverlasting
possession;
andI will betheirGod."
Do you seealsothe differencethatAbrahamwasmentioned"a
stranger" in Canaan but not in the land betweenthe Nile and the
Euphrates.As a Chaldeanhe wasmore anArab thana Jew.
m. But the Covenant was madewith Isaacaccordingto Genesis
17:21: "But my covenant
will I establish
with Isaac,which Sarah
shall bearrnto theeat this time in the next year."
M. Doesthis excludeIshmael?Wherein the Bible doesit saythat
Allah would not makeany covenantwith Ishmael?
m. Nowhere.
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Criterion of t|re Prophet Jeremiah
Jeremiah28;9:"The prophetwhich prophesiethof peace,when
the word of theprophet shall cometo pass,then shallthe prophet
beknown, that the Lord hathtruly senthim."
The word Islam also signifies Tranquillity, Peace.Peace
between the Creatorandhis creafures.
This prophecyofJeremiah
cannot be applied to Jesus.as he himself stated that he didn't
come for peace (Luke 12:51-53):
"Suppose
ye thatI am cometo
give peace on earth?I tell you, Nay; but ratherdivision: For from
henceforth there will five in onehousedivided, threeagainstfwo
and two againstthree.The fathershall be divided againstthe son,
and the sonagainstthe father;the motheragainstthe daughterand
the daughter against the mother; the mother in law againsther
daughter in law, and the daughter in law againsther motherin
law." SeealsoMatthewl0:34-36.
Until Shiloh Come
This was a messageof Jacob to his childrenbeforehe died.
(Genesis49:l): "And Jacobcalledturtohis son,andsaid,Gather
yourselves together,that I may tell you that which shallbefall you
in the lastdays."
Genesis49:10:"The sceptre
shallnot departfiom Judah,nor a
lawgiver from between his feet,until Shiloh come;andwrto him
shallthe gatheringof the peoplebe."
Shiloh is alsothenameof a town but its realmeaningis peace,
tranquilliry. rest, l.e., Islam. It could neverrefer to a town here.If
it referred to a person,it could be a comrption of Shaluah
[Elohim], l.e.Messenger
[of Allah].
So the Israeliteprophethoodin the lineageof Isaacwould stop
as soon as Shiloh comes.This corresponds
with Surah2:133:
"Were youwitness
whendeathcameto Jacob?
Whenhe saidto his
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sons, "What will you worship after me?" They said,"We shall
worship your God (Allah), the God of your fathers Abraham,
IshmaelandIsaac.OneGod andto Him we surrender[in Islam]."
The shift of prophethoodto anothernationwasthreatenedby
Jeremiah 31:36: "If thoseordinancedepartfrom beforeme, saith
the Lord, then the seed of Israel also shallcease
from beinga
nationbeforeme forever."Also hintedby Jesus
in Matthew21:43:
"Therefore say I turto you, The kingdom of God shallbe taken
away from you. and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits
thereof."
Baca is Mecca
The Holy Ka'bah built by Abrahamandhis sonIshmaelis in
Mecca. This nameMecca(Makkah) hasbeenmentionedonetime
in the Holy Qur'an in Surah 48:24.Anothernamefor Meccais
Bakka, dependingon the dialect ofthe tribe.This alsohasbeen
mentionedone time, in Surah 3:96: "Verily, thefirst House[of
worship] appointed for mankindwasthat in Bakka (Mecca), full
of blessing, and guidance of all people." Amazing enough,this
word Bakka was mentionedby Prophet David (PBUH) in his
Psalm 84:6: "Who passingthroughthevalleyof Baccamakeit a
well, the rain also frlleth the pools." The well hereis thewell-
known well of Zamzam.still present
now. closeto Ka'bah.
The House of MY Glory
Isaiah.chapter60:
l Arise, shine; for thy light is come.andthe glory of the Lord is
risen upon thee." Compare with Surah 74:1-3: "O. you
(Muhammad), wrapped up in garments!Arise andwarn! And
your Lord magni$!"
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2. "For, behold, the darknessshall cover the earth, andgross
darknessthe people:but the Lord shall ariseupon thee,andhis
glory shall be seen upon thee." The advent of Prophet
Muhammad (PBUH) was at a time of darknesswhenthe world
forgot the Oneness
of God astaughtby Abrahamandall other
Prophetsincluding Jesus.
3. "And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, andkings to the
brightnessof thy rising."
4. "Lift up thine eyes round about, and see: all they gather
themselvestogether,they come to thee:..." Within lessthan
fwenty-threeyearsthe whole of Arabia waswfted.
5. "...becausethe abtndanceof the seashallbe converted
unto
thee. the forces of the Gentilesshallcomeuntothee."Within
lessthanacenturyIslamspreadout ofArabia to othercotrntries.
6. "The multirude of camelsshallcoverthee,the dromedaries
of
Midian and Ephah;all they from Shebashallcome,they shall
bring gold and incense; and all they from Shebashall come,
they shall bring gold andincense;andthey shall shewforth the
praisesof theLord."
7. "All theflocks of Kedarshallbegatheredtogetheruntothee,the
rams of Nebaioth shallministerrmtothee:theyshallcomeup
with acceptance
on minealtar,andI will glorify thehouseof
my glory." Thetribesof Kedar(Arabia)whoweredividedwere
then united. "The houseof my glory" refenedhereto theHouse
of Allah in Mecca andnot the Churchof Christ asthoughtby
Christiancommentators.
It is afactthatthevillageif Kedar(now
whole Saudi Arabia at least)arethe only country of the world
which remainsimpenetrable
to anyinlluenceof theChurch.
8. "Therefore thy gates shallbe opencontinually:theyshallnot
be shut daynor night; that menmay bring unto theethe forces
of the Gentiles.andthattheirkingsmaybebought."It is a fact
that the mosquesr.rroundingthe Holy Ka'bahin Meccahas
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remained open day andnight sinceit wascleansedby Prophet
Muhammad (PBUH) from the idols 1400yearsago.Rulersas
well assubjectscanefor Pilgrimage.
Chariots of Asses and Chariot of Catnels
The vision of Isaiahof thetwo ridersin Isaiah21:7:"And he
saw a chariotwith a coupleof horsemen,a chariotof asses.
anda
chariotof camels;..."
Who was the rider upon an ass?Every SundaySchoolstudent
will know him. That wasJesus(John I 2:I4): "And Jesus,whenhe
had found a young ass,satthereon;asit is wriften."
Who, then,is thepromisedrider of on a camel?This powerful
Prophet has been overlooked by Bible readers.This is Prophet
Muhammad (PBUH). If this is not applied to him, then the
prophecy has yet to be fulfilled. That is why Isaiahmentioned
finther in the samechapter(21:13): "TheburdenofArabia..."
which means the responsibiliry of the Arab Muslims' and of
coursenow of all Muslims,to spread
themessage
of Islam.
Isaiah 21:14: "The inhabitantsof the landofTemabrougltt
water to him that wasthirsfy, the preventedwith their breadhim
that fled." Temais probably MadinahwhereProphetMuhammad
(PBUH) and his companionsimmigratedto- Eachirnmigrant'nzas
brotheredby oneinhabitantofMadinah andgivenfood and shelter.
Isaiah 2I :15: "For they fled from the swords,from the drawn
srvord and liom thebent bow, andfrom the grievousness
of war."
This was whenProphetMuhammad(PBUH) andhis companions
werepersecuted
andleft Meccaof Madinah.
Isaiah 21:16: "For thushaththeLord saithuntome' Within a
year, according to the years of an hireling, andall the glory of
Kedar shall fail." Exactly in the second year of Hijrah
(immigration)thepagans
weredefeated
in thebattleof Badr'
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Finally Isaiah2l :I 7: concludeswith ". ..themighty men of the
children of Kedar, shallbe diminished:for the Lord God if Israel
hath spoken it." Kedar is the second son of Ishmael(Genesis
25:13) from whom ultimately ProphetMuhammad(PBUH) arose.
In the beginningthe children of Kedar were attackingMuhammad
(PBUH) and his companions.But as many of them accepted
Islam, the numberof children of Kedar who resisted,diminished.
In some Bible versesKedar is synoqrmouswith Arab in General,
asin Ezekiel27:21: Arabia,andall thePrincesof Kedar..."
The Prophet Like Unto ifloses
God addressed
Moses(Deuteronomy
18:18):"I will raisethem
up a Prophet from amongtheir brethren.like unto thee(Moses),
and will put my words in his mouth; andhe shall speakunto them
all that I shall commandhim."
1. Brethren of Israelites(descendants
ofAbraham throughIsaac)
are Ishmaelites (descendantsof Abraham through Ishmael).
Jesus is hereexcludedashe is an Israelite;otherwiseit should
be written "a Prophetfrom amongyourselves."
2. Is Muhammad not like unto Moses? If not accepted,this
promisehasyet to be fulfilled. The tablebelow, takenfrom Al-
Ittihad,January-March
1982,page41, is self-explanatory.
3. "put my wordsin hismouth."SoGod'srevelation
camethrough
Gabriel, and Prophet Muhammad's own thinking was not
involved. But thisappliedto all Divinerevelation.
Perhaps
here
mentioned specifically because comparedwith the revelation
to Moseswhich camein'vritten tablets"asbelieved.
Following is a comparisonbetweena few crucial characteristics
of Moses,MuhammadandJesuswhich may clarifu the identity of
"that prophet" who wasto comeafter Moses:
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Birth Usual Jsual Jnuul
Femily Life Maried w/ children r,taniedV children No Marriage nor
Death Usul Jsul Jnuual
Sarer hoDhet. Statesmm toDhet. Stal€sman Prophet
forced Emigration
fin edulthood)
To Medim [o Medina None
Encounter with enemies Hot Dusuit {ot Dursuit.Battles No simila encomter
R6ult3 of encounier Moral, Physical
Victoru
Moral, Physical
Victow
Moral Victory
[Vriting down
rf revelation
In hrs lifetime (Torah In his lifetime (the
Our'an)
After him
Nature of teachinss Snintual.
leml loiritual.leeal Vainlv sniritual
Acceptance of leadership
(bv his peonle)
Rejectedthen
accented
{ejected then
rccented
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Deuteronomy18:19:"And it shallcometo pass,
thatwhosoever
will not hearkenunto Mywords which I shallspeakinMyname, I
will requireof him."
In the Qur'an I l3 of the I l4 Surah(chapters)startwith "ln the
name of Allah, most Gracious,most Merciful." Also, in their daily
work the Muslims startwith this saying.Not in thenameof God,
but "in my narne,"His personalnamewhich is "Allah." As it is a
personal name,it is not subjectto genderlike God or Goddess.
or
plurality like God or Gods.Christiansstartwith "In the nurme
of
the Father,the SonandtheHoly Spirit."
It is to be notedthat thosewho will not hearhim, or who deny
him, will be punished.This correspondswith passages
in the Holy
Qur'an (Surah 3:19); "Truly the religionin the sightof Allah is
Islam." (Surah 3:85): "And whoeverdesires
a religionotherthan
Islam, it will never be accepted ofhim,andintheHereafterhe
will be oneof the losers."
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My Senran$ Messenger and Elect
A clearer fulfillment ofthe prophecyofMuhammad (PBUH)
is found in Isaiah42:
l. "Behold my servant,whom I uphold; mine elect,in whom my
soul delighteth; I have put my spirit uponhim: he shallbring
forth judgment to the Gentiles."Also called"my messenger"
in verse 19. No doubt all prophets were indeed servants,
messengersand elect of Allah. Yet no Prophetis wriversally
called by thesespecifictitles asMuhammad(PBUH) in Arabic
'Abduhu wa RasuluhulMustda, i.e. His slaveservantandHis
elected messenger.The testimonyof a personacceptingIslam
is: "I bearwitnessthatthereis no deity but Allah, Who hasno
partner and I bearwitnessthat Muhammadis His servantand
messenger."This sameformula is repeatedfive times a day in
the Tashahhudduring theminimum obligatoryprayers.several
more times if a Muslim performs additional recommended
prayers. The most colnmon title of Prophet Muhammad
(PBUH) is Rasulullah,i.e.theMessenger
of Allah.
2. "He shallnot cry,nor lift up, nor causehis voice to be heardin
the street."This describesthe decencyof ProphetMuhammad
(PBUH).
3. "...he shallbring forthjudgmentuntotruth."
4. "He shallnot fail nor be discouraged.till he havesetjudgment
in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law." This is to
comparedwith Jesus,who did not prevail over his enemiesand
wasdisappointed
because
ofthe rejectionby theIsraelites.
5 . . . .
6. "I the Lord have called thee in righteousness,
andwill hold
thine hand, and will keepthee,andgive theefor covenantof
the people. for a light of theGentiles.""andwill keepthee,"
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i.e. no other Prophet will comeafterhim. In shorttime many
Gentileswere guidedinto Islam.
7. "To open the blind eyes,to bringouttheprisonersfromthe
prison, and them that sit in darknessout ofthe prison house."
"Blind eyes, life of darkness" denotes here the pagan life.
"Bring out the prisoners liom the prison" denotes the
abolishment of slavery for the first time in the history of
mankind.
8. 'T am the Lord: that is my name:andmy glory will I not give
to another. neither my praise to graven images." Prophet
Muhammad (PBUH) is uniqueamongall Prophetsashe is the
"Seal of all Prophets" and his teachingsremaintmdistorted
until today, comparedwith ChristianityandJudaism.
9 . . . .
l0."Sing untotheLord a new song,andhispraisefrom the endof
the earth,..." A new song asit is not in Hebrewor Aramaic.
but in Arabic. The praise of God and his messenger
Muhammad is chanted five times daily from the minaretsof
millions of mosques
all overtheworld.
11."Let thewilderness
andthe citiesthereoflift up theirvoice,the
villages that Kedar doth inhabit: let the inhabitantsof the rock
sing, let them shout from the top of the mowttains." From
Mount Arafat near Mecca the Pilgdms chanteveryyearthe
following: "Here I come ffor your service]O. Allah. HereI
come.HereI come.Thereis no partnerwith you.HereI come.
Verily yours is thepraise,theblessing
andsovereignfy.
There
is no partner besides
You." Isaiah42 canneverbe appliedto
and Israelite Prophet as Kedar is thesecondsonof Ishmael.
SeeGenesis
25:13.
l2."Let them give glory untothe Lord, anddeclarehispraise
in
the islands."And reallv Islam spreadto the smallislandsasfar
aslndonesiaandthe Caribbeansea.
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