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PIOL Conversion
By: Michael W. Malley
President / Founder CRM Group
Mastering
CRM Group
• It’s my 30-Year Anniversary in Refractive Marketing…and I
still have no financial disclosures
Financial Disclosure
• But our ears are always open to suggestions!
CRM Group
• It’s Cory’s 22nd Year Anniversary in Refractive Practice
Development…and he has no financial disclosures in any
of the topics discussed here, but does have a research
grant from Alcon he must disclose
Contact Information
CRM Group
Michael W. Malley
(713) 839-0202 – OFFICE
(713) 446-3735 – CELL / TEXT
mike@refractivemarketing.com
www.refractivemarketing.com
Cory J. Pickett, MSN, FNP, CRNO
(318) 518-2880 – cell/text
cory.pickett@paneye.com
CRM Group
Who ‘Wrote The Book On PIOL
C O N V E R S I O
N
Well, As It Turns
Out, We Did 
But I’m NOT Here To Sell It To You…
Because It’s NOT For Sale
It’s 32 Pages Long
ALL About Premium IOLs & SUPER IMPORTANT
But Not As Important As This Guy!
Meet Greg From Connecticut Eye Consultants
But First:
Your Most
Important
Question:
How Do We Save
The Surgeon Exam
Lane Time?
4 types of cataract / lens
exchange patients
1) Patients that have already been diagnosed with cataracts,
know they have cataracts, and are being referred for cataract
surgery, whether by another eyecare provider or by a friend
or family member
2) Patients that are coming in because they are struggling with
their vision and think they just need new glasses.
3) Patients that are just there for an ‘annual’ eye exam and have
no idea their vision has decreased.
4) Patients that are coming in for vision correction procedures
such as LASIK
4 types of cataract / lens exchange
patients
There should be a plan in place to tackle each type of patient.
Already Has a Cataract
• Send general information ahead of time with your different options, whether
it be specific IOL types or package types.
• Have patient complete a questionnaire, whether beforehand online, over the
phone, or in office, to determine what their interests are.
• Use diagnostics to gauge what the patient may be a candidate for:
• OPD, iTrace, VX120, auto-refractor/topo
• Do general education on cataract surgery BEFORE the surgeon comes into
the exam room. Save the type of IOL discussion until after the surgeon
exam.
• Use video-based solutions to maintain consistency in messaging
• Once surgeon sees patient and makes a specific recommendation(s) on
treatment options, have a series of specific videos available so that you can
educate the patient on their specific options ONLY.
• They want to hear what the doctor recommends
• Use technology to guide the decision-making process
• Stay away from generic videos, the patient wants to hear it from you
Already Has a Cataract (continued)
• Be up front about the financial decisions
• Medicare/private insurance pays a part
• Patient has a choice on the rest
• When patient goes to scheduler/counselor, be able to give them a
nice printout with their specific options on it, including their expected
out-of-pocket expenses.
• Also have financing options available.
Think They Need New Glasses
• These patients have a different mindset
• Not expecting surgery
• Not expecting added costs
• Let the surgeon be the one that explains why they need cataract
surgery and not new glasses, then give them some preliminary
education and discussion materials.
• It’s OK to bring the patient back for further IOL discussion in a
separate setting.
• This is a big decision, and may not be one they are prepared to make on the
spot, whether visually or financially
• “Mrs. Jones, this is a big decision to make, so why don’t we give you some
information and then schedule you for a time to come back and visit with us
so that you have a chance to discuss this with your family.”
“Annual” eye exam
• These are the patients that say they see well and have no vision
complaints.
• It’s difficult to expect to convert these patients to surgery immediately
• Spend time discussing findings and setting expectations rather than
trying to ‘convince’ them to have surgery
• Patients that are pressured to make a decision are more likely to not have
surgery at all, and further are less likely to upgrade to a premium IOL
• By definition, they haven’t been ‘bothered’ by their vision
• Pointing it out sets the table for future discussion and upgrade success
• Again, it’s OK to bring them back for a surgical consideration, perhaps
either cataract surgery or lens exchange.
LASIK patients
• Different subsets of these patients
• Want LASIK to fix their near vision while not losing distance
• Want LASIK to fix everything
• Already had LASIK, now need readers, and want more LASIK to fix that
• It’s a long discussion
• Use advanced diagnostics and patient discussion to aid in decision-
making process
• Have everyone in the office on the same page regarding what the
surgeon is comfortable in offering in each circumstance.
Educational Videos
Why I Believe in Educational Videos
• Help ensure consistency of message
• Time saver for staff
• Flexible
• Study has shown patients have better understanding:
• Out of 101 patients, 58 viewed the educational video. Patients who viewed
the video exhibited stronger learning outcomes; in particular, patients who
viewed the video scored higher on cataract surgery educational assessments
than those who did not (83% vs 76%, p=0.032), particularly on the
assessment of postoperative visual expectations (98% vs 80%, p=0.003)
• Video education during preoperative cataract surgery assessments improved
patient understanding of cataract surgery and perception of preoperative
visits. Video education is easily integrated into preoperative visits and can
enhance the preoperative experience.
Here’s How: Greg…And He’s NOT An Actor
And This Is Going To Be A LONG 10 Minutes. But….
Now The
2nd Most
Important
PIOL Question
•“What Are Patients
REALLY Buying?
They’re Buying
Something They Lost
• That’s Where Perceived Value Comes into Play
• They’re NOT Buying A Specific PIOL
At The CORE Of Today’s
Issue…
• Is LOSS.
• Patients have LOST
something…
• And they’re willing to PAY to
get it back.
• How much they PAY…
• Depends on how well we
listen…
• And how well we educate
them.
We Just Have To Remind
Them What They Lost
• How Do Remind Them?
• How Long Does It Take?
• Whose Going to Do It?
Anyone On Your Team Can Do It
Techs Can Do It
CRM Group
Counselors Can Do It
Call Center Staff Can Do
All It Takes Is TIME!
Let’s Play The:
Patient Listening Game
CRM Group
Listening Carefully To Patients
Allows Your Techs, ODs &
Counselors To Know What Patients
Value MOST In Their Vision
CRM Group
The ‘Secret’ Behind Our
5-Minute Training Manual
• Every Practice Is Unique
• Counseling & Education
Needs to be Customized
• It’s A Group Project:
Counselors, Schedulers,
Front Desk, Call Center,
Techs, Surgeons
The Story of Rosa…
• Published Last Month In Administrative Eyecare
Our Technique
Requires ‘NO SELLING’
• If You’re Having To SELL, The
‘Process’ Is Not Working
• No ‘Convincing’
• No ‘Pressure’
But It Does Require Listening
COUNSELING Must Be A
PROCESS
Treat Patient Counseling Like A Patient Work-Up
It’s BEST To Start At Home!
• Start The Education At Home
• Educate via Email
• Educate via Video
• Educate via Snail Mail
• Educate via Telephone
Verify Each
Step BEFORE
They Come In
• Packet Mailed
• Phone Call To Patient
• Verify Packet Received
• Discuss Their Options
• Confirm Appnt Time
• Confirm Email
• Email Cataract Video
Sample At-Home Call Scripting:
Sample At-Home Call Scripting:
Sample At-Home Call Scripting:
Sample At-Home Call Scripting:
Sample At-Home Call Scripting:
Arriving At
The 5-
Minute
Counseling
Session
They’ve received a
packet at home
They’ve received a call at
home
They’ve watched a video
at home
Let’s Now
Move Into
The Clinic
They’ve been ‘greeted’ by the front desk
Let Them Meet The Counselor Who Called
Them – Develops Trust.
They’ve been worked up and ‘prepared’
by the techs
They Received A Medical Assessment /
Recommendation By Their Surgeon
They’ve Met Their
Surgeon
• Who Has Made:
• A MEDICAL ASSESSMENT
• A MEDICAL RECOMMENDATION
• MENTIONED OUT-OF-POCKET COSTS
What Do
We Say
Next?
• “Do you agree with Dr. Mac’s MEDICAL
ASSESSMENT?”
THEIR
ANSWER:
• 90% Of ALL Patients Agree With The
ASSESSMENT
• Almost the same percentage using MEDICAL
RECOMMENDATION
The BEAUTY of Option II – ‘Surgery Scheduling
Patient Scheduling MOMENTUM
The Process Gets Underway Effortlessly
No Awkward Pausing Up Front To Discuss Fees or
Lenses
Start The Standard
Surgical Scheduling
• Dr. Mac Is Recommending Cataract Surgery
On Your Right Eye.
• Right now we are scheduling 2 weeks out.
• We perform surgeries on Mondays or
Tuesdays.
• Do you have a preference for Mondays or
Tuesdays?
Goal #1: Get Them On
the Schedule
• Continue With ‘Patient Option
Processing’
• Also Start The ‘Agreement Process’
Options Processing
Do You Prefer Early Morning or
Later in the Morning?
This Method Allows Patients Control
In Scheduling
Continue With Standard Scheduling
YOU WILL NEED TO
HAVE A DRIVER THAT
DAY
THIS IS WHAT YOU’LL
NEED TO WEAR
THIS IS HOW LONG
YOU WILL BE HERE
THESE ARE THE DROPS
YOU WILL NEED
Wait For Confirmation.
“Keep Scheduling”
• The BEAUTY of OPTION II:
• The counseling
continues in the same
FORM & FASHION as the
SCHEDULING. It’s a
‘Matter-of-fact’
approach where the
patient simply verifies
their approval with the
MEDICAL ASSESSMENT.
But NONE Of
This Works
If:
• Education Is NOT An Absolute Part of the Work-Up Process
• Counselors & Techs Do NOT LISTEN to Patients
Listening Is Where VALUE Comes Into Play
• Remember, Patients Can’t Value A Toric Lens…
• Unless “we” know WHY they REALLY NEED One…
• And remind them HOW is can RENEW their LIFE!
For LISTENING 
Thank You…

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Mastering PIOL Conversion.pptx

  • 1. PIOL Conversion By: Michael W. Malley President / Founder CRM Group Mastering CRM Group
  • 2. • It’s my 30-Year Anniversary in Refractive Marketing…and I still have no financial disclosures Financial Disclosure • But our ears are always open to suggestions! CRM Group • It’s Cory’s 22nd Year Anniversary in Refractive Practice Development…and he has no financial disclosures in any of the topics discussed here, but does have a research grant from Alcon he must disclose
  • 3. Contact Information CRM Group Michael W. Malley (713) 839-0202 – OFFICE (713) 446-3735 – CELL / TEXT mike@refractivemarketing.com www.refractivemarketing.com Cory J. Pickett, MSN, FNP, CRNO (318) 518-2880 – cell/text cory.pickett@paneye.com
  • 4. CRM Group Who ‘Wrote The Book On PIOL C O N V E R S I O N
  • 5. Well, As It Turns Out, We Did  But I’m NOT Here To Sell It To You… Because It’s NOT For Sale
  • 6. It’s 32 Pages Long ALL About Premium IOLs & SUPER IMPORTANT
  • 7. But Not As Important As This Guy! Meet Greg From Connecticut Eye Consultants
  • 8. But First: Your Most Important Question: How Do We Save The Surgeon Exam Lane Time?
  • 9. 4 types of cataract / lens exchange patients 1) Patients that have already been diagnosed with cataracts, know they have cataracts, and are being referred for cataract surgery, whether by another eyecare provider or by a friend or family member 2) Patients that are coming in because they are struggling with their vision and think they just need new glasses. 3) Patients that are just there for an ‘annual’ eye exam and have no idea their vision has decreased. 4) Patients that are coming in for vision correction procedures such as LASIK
  • 10. 4 types of cataract / lens exchange patients There should be a plan in place to tackle each type of patient.
  • 11. Already Has a Cataract • Send general information ahead of time with your different options, whether it be specific IOL types or package types. • Have patient complete a questionnaire, whether beforehand online, over the phone, or in office, to determine what their interests are. • Use diagnostics to gauge what the patient may be a candidate for: • OPD, iTrace, VX120, auto-refractor/topo • Do general education on cataract surgery BEFORE the surgeon comes into the exam room. Save the type of IOL discussion until after the surgeon exam. • Use video-based solutions to maintain consistency in messaging • Once surgeon sees patient and makes a specific recommendation(s) on treatment options, have a series of specific videos available so that you can educate the patient on their specific options ONLY. • They want to hear what the doctor recommends • Use technology to guide the decision-making process • Stay away from generic videos, the patient wants to hear it from you
  • 12. Already Has a Cataract (continued) • Be up front about the financial decisions • Medicare/private insurance pays a part • Patient has a choice on the rest • When patient goes to scheduler/counselor, be able to give them a nice printout with their specific options on it, including their expected out-of-pocket expenses. • Also have financing options available.
  • 13. Think They Need New Glasses • These patients have a different mindset • Not expecting surgery • Not expecting added costs • Let the surgeon be the one that explains why they need cataract surgery and not new glasses, then give them some preliminary education and discussion materials. • It’s OK to bring the patient back for further IOL discussion in a separate setting. • This is a big decision, and may not be one they are prepared to make on the spot, whether visually or financially • “Mrs. Jones, this is a big decision to make, so why don’t we give you some information and then schedule you for a time to come back and visit with us so that you have a chance to discuss this with your family.”
  • 14. “Annual” eye exam • These are the patients that say they see well and have no vision complaints. • It’s difficult to expect to convert these patients to surgery immediately • Spend time discussing findings and setting expectations rather than trying to ‘convince’ them to have surgery • Patients that are pressured to make a decision are more likely to not have surgery at all, and further are less likely to upgrade to a premium IOL • By definition, they haven’t been ‘bothered’ by their vision • Pointing it out sets the table for future discussion and upgrade success • Again, it’s OK to bring them back for a surgical consideration, perhaps either cataract surgery or lens exchange.
  • 15. LASIK patients • Different subsets of these patients • Want LASIK to fix their near vision while not losing distance • Want LASIK to fix everything • Already had LASIK, now need readers, and want more LASIK to fix that • It’s a long discussion • Use advanced diagnostics and patient discussion to aid in decision- making process • Have everyone in the office on the same page regarding what the surgeon is comfortable in offering in each circumstance.
  • 17. Why I Believe in Educational Videos • Help ensure consistency of message • Time saver for staff • Flexible • Study has shown patients have better understanding: • Out of 101 patients, 58 viewed the educational video. Patients who viewed the video exhibited stronger learning outcomes; in particular, patients who viewed the video scored higher on cataract surgery educational assessments than those who did not (83% vs 76%, p=0.032), particularly on the assessment of postoperative visual expectations (98% vs 80%, p=0.003) • Video education during preoperative cataract surgery assessments improved patient understanding of cataract surgery and perception of preoperative visits. Video education is easily integrated into preoperative visits and can enhance the preoperative experience.
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  • 19. Here’s How: Greg…And He’s NOT An Actor And This Is Going To Be A LONG 10 Minutes. But….
  • 20. Now The 2nd Most Important PIOL Question •“What Are Patients REALLY Buying?
  • 21. They’re Buying Something They Lost • That’s Where Perceived Value Comes into Play • They’re NOT Buying A Specific PIOL
  • 22. At The CORE Of Today’s Issue… • Is LOSS. • Patients have LOST something… • And they’re willing to PAY to get it back. • How much they PAY… • Depends on how well we listen… • And how well we educate them.
  • 23. We Just Have To Remind Them What They Lost • How Do Remind Them? • How Long Does It Take? • Whose Going to Do It?
  • 24. Anyone On Your Team Can Do It Techs Can Do It CRM Group Counselors Can Do It Call Center Staff Can Do All It Takes Is TIME!
  • 25. Let’s Play The: Patient Listening Game CRM Group
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  • 32. Listening Carefully To Patients Allows Your Techs, ODs & Counselors To Know What Patients Value MOST In Their Vision CRM Group
  • 33. The ‘Secret’ Behind Our 5-Minute Training Manual • Every Practice Is Unique • Counseling & Education Needs to be Customized • It’s A Group Project: Counselors, Schedulers, Front Desk, Call Center, Techs, Surgeons
  • 34. The Story of Rosa… • Published Last Month In Administrative Eyecare
  • 35. Our Technique Requires ‘NO SELLING’ • If You’re Having To SELL, The ‘Process’ Is Not Working • No ‘Convincing’ • No ‘Pressure’ But It Does Require Listening
  • 36. COUNSELING Must Be A PROCESS Treat Patient Counseling Like A Patient Work-Up
  • 37. It’s BEST To Start At Home! • Start The Education At Home • Educate via Email • Educate via Video • Educate via Snail Mail • Educate via Telephone
  • 38. Verify Each Step BEFORE They Come In • Packet Mailed • Phone Call To Patient • Verify Packet Received • Discuss Their Options • Confirm Appnt Time • Confirm Email • Email Cataract Video
  • 39. Sample At-Home Call Scripting:
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  • 44. Arriving At The 5- Minute Counseling Session They’ve received a packet at home They’ve received a call at home They’ve watched a video at home
  • 45. Let’s Now Move Into The Clinic They’ve been ‘greeted’ by the front desk Let Them Meet The Counselor Who Called Them – Develops Trust. They’ve been worked up and ‘prepared’ by the techs They Received A Medical Assessment / Recommendation By Their Surgeon
  • 46. They’ve Met Their Surgeon • Who Has Made: • A MEDICAL ASSESSMENT • A MEDICAL RECOMMENDATION • MENTIONED OUT-OF-POCKET COSTS
  • 47. What Do We Say Next? • “Do you agree with Dr. Mac’s MEDICAL ASSESSMENT?”
  • 48. THEIR ANSWER: • 90% Of ALL Patients Agree With The ASSESSMENT • Almost the same percentage using MEDICAL RECOMMENDATION
  • 49. The BEAUTY of Option II – ‘Surgery Scheduling Patient Scheduling MOMENTUM The Process Gets Underway Effortlessly No Awkward Pausing Up Front To Discuss Fees or Lenses
  • 50. Start The Standard Surgical Scheduling • Dr. Mac Is Recommending Cataract Surgery On Your Right Eye. • Right now we are scheduling 2 weeks out. • We perform surgeries on Mondays or Tuesdays. • Do you have a preference for Mondays or Tuesdays?
  • 51. Goal #1: Get Them On the Schedule • Continue With ‘Patient Option Processing’ • Also Start The ‘Agreement Process’
  • 52. Options Processing Do You Prefer Early Morning or Later in the Morning? This Method Allows Patients Control In Scheduling
  • 53. Continue With Standard Scheduling YOU WILL NEED TO HAVE A DRIVER THAT DAY THIS IS WHAT YOU’LL NEED TO WEAR THIS IS HOW LONG YOU WILL BE HERE THESE ARE THE DROPS YOU WILL NEED
  • 54. Wait For Confirmation. “Keep Scheduling” • The BEAUTY of OPTION II: • The counseling continues in the same FORM & FASHION as the SCHEDULING. It’s a ‘Matter-of-fact’ approach where the patient simply verifies their approval with the MEDICAL ASSESSMENT.
  • 55. But NONE Of This Works If: • Education Is NOT An Absolute Part of the Work-Up Process • Counselors & Techs Do NOT LISTEN to Patients
  • 56. Listening Is Where VALUE Comes Into Play • Remember, Patients Can’t Value A Toric Lens… • Unless “we” know WHY they REALLY NEED One… • And remind them HOW is can RENEW their LIFE!