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Dr Chris Hughes
Edge Hill University
hugheschr@edgehill.ac.uk
Dr Clive Palmer
NTF, PFHEA
capalmer@uclan.ac.uk
Investigating the expectations of students and research supervisors
concerning their roles and duties in the learning process.
May 2023 – May 2024
 This presentation stems from our current, ongoing research into student-supervisor
expectations.
 Our aim is to share some initial data findings, to PROMPT DISCUSSION (as well as
invite you to contribute to the research).
 The questionnaire at the QR code and link, is a redeployment of the classic:
Brown/Atkins Role Perception Scale (1988) in a MSForms format. There are 12
questions, plus space to provide more explanatory detail in response to each
question.
 We asked UGs and PGt as well as PGR candidates and supervisors to respond,
revealing beliefs about transitions ‘into research’, ‘becoming’ a researcher, and
about relationships for ‘learning through research’ (we have mainly doctoral level
responses).
 We have an excellent response rate (100+ and growing) with a 50/50 split between
students and supervisors responding.
Breakout Room:
To get things started, please introduce
yourselves in the breakout rooms and have a
think about this question:
1. Padlet Question. What kind of impact
might managing expectations have on the
learning experience for the student
researcher and the supervisor?
Please use the Padlet to jot your
thoughts
https://forms.office.com/e/Rt9trvHyDU
For convenience and overview, our data is
grouped/presented into 3 areas -
1. Research project design and initial stages of a doctoral programme.
2. Research in progress / contact and involvement.
3. Examination phase
Surprise finding to date -
When our data is grouped (students and supervisor responses together), colleagues predicted the results from our
research would graduate to the mean, but they did not…
The picture emerging is that -
Our data reveals, in the main, that supervisors believe that students should take sole, or the majority share
of responsibility for managing their doctoral research project (and the learning relationship).
However,
Our data also reveals that, in the main, students agree with the supervisors, that manging their doctoral project
(and the learning relationship) is also their sole/main responsibility.
= our data suggests a more proactive stance to managing learning relationships, earlier in registrations/candidacies
would be a good tactic in supervision towards positive outcomes.
1. Research project design and initial stages of a doctoral programme
2. Research in progress / contact and involvement
3. Examination Phase
It is entirely the supervisor’s responsibility It is mostly the supervisor’s responsibility
It is a shared responsibility It is mostly the student’s responsibility
t is entirely the student’s responsibility
Q: Does the supervisor have direct responsibility for the
standard of the dissertation / thesis, OR, does the
supervisor offer advice only and leaves all decisions
concerning content, format and standards to the student?
100% 0 100%
Q: In the end, is it up to the supervisor to decide which theories /
theoretical frameworks are most appropriate for the study, OR,
does the student have a right to choose their own theories /
theoretical frameworks, even if it conflicts with the supervisor’s?
It is entirely for the supervisor to decide It is mostly for the supervisor to decide
It is a shared responsibility It is mostly for the student to decide
It is entirely for the student to decide
 Responses: “The student should choose the framework methodology appropriate for their study. The supervisor should advise. Ultimately, it's the student's choice.”
 “It depends on whether the student is self-funded or is part of a research team. Supervisor for funded, more student for unfunded”.
Q: Should the supervisor initiate frequent meetings with the student, OR, it is
up to the student to decide when they want meetings with the supervisor?
It is entirely the supervisor’s responsibility to initiate meetings
It is mostly the supervisor’s responsibility to initiate meetings
It is a shared responsibility to initiate meetings
It is mostly the student’ s responsibility to initiate meetings It
is entirely the student’s s responsibility to initiate meetings
 Responses: “If the doctoral candidate knows the milestones and timing of meeting them, then it is their responsibility to meet them.”
 “Arranging tutorial meetings should be entirely the student's responsibility. It is not for the supervisor to chase students about their work as doing so breeds a culture of dependency.”
 “Sometimes it's necessary for the supervisor to reach out to the student - to make sure they are OK”.
 Responses: “Thesis is an end component of the doctoral research experience. It is the student's responsibility... it's the student's thesis after all.”
 “As a supervisor I just want to know that writing practice or final/polished drafts are in production. I wouldn't want a student to submit work without my approval.”
 “It is the student that achieves the degree or has their thesis (with their name on the front of the thesis) that is stored on a repository. To supervise is to overlook, assist, enthuse and
encourage; they are not a co-author.”
Emerging typologies: inferences from the data from students and supervisors -
Indicative voices of learners and supervisors – utterances and inferences from the data
Candidates/students -
1. Expectant voice – “Tell me what to write and I’ll write it” – ‘sparrow mouth’, spoon-fed – “tell me what to think”.
2. Passive voice – “Ok, if you think that’s best for me” - lacking confidence, naive, accepting – “whatever’s best”?
3. Imagination voice – “I Didn’t know what to expect, so I made it up” – worriers, disappointed, and panders to
calamity-car-crash stories – “No-one told me I had to write a thesis and have a viva!”
Supervisors/Lecturers -
1. Worthiness voice – “Give me something worth looking at” (and then we’ll meet)
2. Eager-to-impress voice – “I’ll read anything, anytime, give you loads of feedback”.
3. Safe pair of hands voice – “Don’t worry, I’ll sort it” - Gets a project ‘over the line’, experienced, long view.
4. Contractual voice – “If you do your bit (first) I’ll do mine” – A gamble of who’ll make the effort first.
Purely professional (personal matters should not be discussed)
Personal relationships are important for successful supervision
Q: Do you agree that staff-student relationships are purely
professional and personal matters should not intrude, OR, are
close personal relationships essential for successful supervision?
Contrasting Responses:
 “After 20+ years....I'm not actually interested in personal matters of my students. I used to try to be "everyone's friend" - but it is tiring and is not advantageous to anyone”.
 “Empathising with a students needs, motivations and behaviours is critical especially if you're working alongside for 3 years +”
Emerging typologies: inferences from the data from students and supervisors -
Indicative voices of learners and supervisors – utterances and inferences from the data
Candidates/students -
1. Expectant voice – “Tell me what to write and I’ll write it” – ‘sparrow mouth’, spoon-fed – “tell me what to think”.
2. Passive voice – “Ok, if you think that’s best for me” - lacking confidence, naive, accepting – “whatever’s best”?
3. Imagination voice – “I Didn’t know what to expect, so I made it up” – worriers, disappointed, and panders to
calamity-car-crash stories – “No-one told me I had to write a thesis and have a viva!”
Supervisors/Lecturers -
1. Worthiness voice – “Give me something worth looking at” (and then we’ll meet)
2. Eager-to-impress voice – “I’ll read anything, anytime, give you loads of feedback”.
3. Safe pair of hands voice – “Don’t worry, I’ll sort it” - Gets a project ‘over the line’, experienced, long view.
4. Contractual voice – “If you do your bit (first) I’ll do mine” – A gamble of who’ll make the effort first.
Purely professional (personal matters should not be discussed)
Personal relationships are important for successful supervision
Q: Do you agree that staff-student relationships are purely
professional and personal matters should not intrude, OR, are
close personal relationships essential for successful supervision?
Contrasting Responses:
 “After 20+ years....I'm not actually interested in personal matters of my students. I used to try to be "everyone's friend" - but it is tiring and is not advantageous to anyone”.
 “Empathising with a students needs, motivations and behaviours is critical especially if you're working alongside for 3 years +”
Padlet Question 2. What other kinds of
narrative types have you encountered
from student researchers and
supervisors?
Please outline your thoughts again on Padlet.
You might see such narratives around-
1. Project design and initial stages of a doctoral
programme
2. Progress / ongoing development of research
3. Examination phase – who’s judging who?
Data reveals a disconnect – has supervision in research lost sight of the person?
1. The ‘P’ in a PhD = Person + Project -
Q: Has the person (and to some degree their learning needs) slipped into the shadow of
the ‘Research Problem’ … the person becoming invisible … and/or is research
supervision itself becoming invisible?
3. Consistency versus Standardisation -
Consistent good supervision does not necessarily mean Standardised supervision
e.g. the standard edict to meet every 6 weeks, may not be an indicator, or lead to consistently ‘good supervision’.
2. Appreciating the Power Imbalance -
 The Learner thinks it’s (i.e. all aspects of project development) their responsibility
 The Supervisors think it’s (i.e. all aspects of project development) the students’ responsibility
- Thank you for listening and contributing to this UKCGE workshop -
Our current thinking is that:
 Candidates come to us (for our doctoral ‘powers’) to learn through research.
 Recognise when a learning relationship is working, and when it’s not.
 The power imbalance between ‘learner and teacher’ means the onus is upon the supervisor to act ‘proactively’ to
set up positive learning relationships e.g. anticipating key milestones, for learning through research.
3. Padlet Question.
What issues might arise
by confusing consistency
and standardisation in
supervisory practice?
Bibliography of our recent Doctoral Education initiatives
Clive Palmer, Chris Hughes and Andrew Sprake (2024) ‘Getting on with strangers’: collaborations, expectations, and
doctoral relations. 6th International Conference on Developments in Doctoral Education & Training. UKCGE, Bath, 21st -22nd
March 2024 [abstract submitted]
https://ukcge.ac.uk/events/6th-international-conference-on-developments-in-doctoral-education-training
Clive Palmer, Andrew Sprake and Chris Hughes (2023) Managing the expectations of doctoral students and their
supervisors: UK perspective. Encyclopedia, 3, 1474-1488.
https://www.mdpi.com/2673-8392/3/4/105
Clive Palmer and Chris Hughes (2023) UKCGE Recognised Research Supervisor: Associate and Full. An exemplar for sharing
good practice between two Graduate Research Schools in the Northwest of England. UKCGE Annual Conference.
University of Edinburgh. 3-4 July.
https://www.academia.edu/104275708/Clive_Palmer_and_Chris_Hughes_2023_UKCGE_Recognised_Research_Supervisor_Associate_and_Full_An_exemplar_for_sharing_good_practi
ce_between_two_Graduate_Research_Schools_in_the_Northwest_of_England_UKCGE_Annual_Conference_University_of_Edinburgh_3_4_July
Chris Hughes and Clive Palmer (2023) PGR Supervision and Learning: A Collaborative Development. SOLSTICE and Centre
for Learning and Teaching (CLT) Conference. Edge Hill University, Ormskirk, UK. 14/15th June.
https://www.academia.edu/103453362/Chris_Hughes_and_Clive_Palmer_2023_PGR_Supervision_and_Learning_A_Collaborative_Development_SOLSTICE_and_Centre_for_Learning_
and_Teaching_CLT_Conference_Edge_Hill_University_Ormskirk_UK_14_15th_June
Clive Palmer and Chris Hughes (2023) UKCGE Postgraduate Research Supervision: An Inter-Collaborative Workshop.
Graduate Research School, Edge Hill University, Ormskirk. 1st February
https://www.academia.edu/95679312/Clive_Palmer_and_Chris_Hughes_2023_UKCGE_Postgraduate_Research_Supervision_An_Inter_Collaborative_Workshop_Graduate_Research_S
chool_Edge_Hill_University_Ormskirk_UK_1st_February

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  • 1. Dr Chris Hughes Edge Hill University hugheschr@edgehill.ac.uk Dr Clive Palmer NTF, PFHEA capalmer@uclan.ac.uk
  • 2. Investigating the expectations of students and research supervisors concerning their roles and duties in the learning process. May 2023 – May 2024  This presentation stems from our current, ongoing research into student-supervisor expectations.  Our aim is to share some initial data findings, to PROMPT DISCUSSION (as well as invite you to contribute to the research).  The questionnaire at the QR code and link, is a redeployment of the classic: Brown/Atkins Role Perception Scale (1988) in a MSForms format. There are 12 questions, plus space to provide more explanatory detail in response to each question.  We asked UGs and PGt as well as PGR candidates and supervisors to respond, revealing beliefs about transitions ‘into research’, ‘becoming’ a researcher, and about relationships for ‘learning through research’ (we have mainly doctoral level responses).  We have an excellent response rate (100+ and growing) with a 50/50 split between students and supervisors responding. Breakout Room: To get things started, please introduce yourselves in the breakout rooms and have a think about this question: 1. Padlet Question. What kind of impact might managing expectations have on the learning experience for the student researcher and the supervisor? Please use the Padlet to jot your thoughts https://forms.office.com/e/Rt9trvHyDU
  • 3. For convenience and overview, our data is grouped/presented into 3 areas - 1. Research project design and initial stages of a doctoral programme. 2. Research in progress / contact and involvement. 3. Examination phase Surprise finding to date - When our data is grouped (students and supervisor responses together), colleagues predicted the results from our research would graduate to the mean, but they did not… The picture emerging is that - Our data reveals, in the main, that supervisors believe that students should take sole, or the majority share of responsibility for managing their doctoral research project (and the learning relationship). However, Our data also reveals that, in the main, students agree with the supervisors, that manging their doctoral project (and the learning relationship) is also their sole/main responsibility. = our data suggests a more proactive stance to managing learning relationships, earlier in registrations/candidacies would be a good tactic in supervision towards positive outcomes.
  • 4. 1. Research project design and initial stages of a doctoral programme 2. Research in progress / contact and involvement 3. Examination Phase It is entirely the supervisor’s responsibility It is mostly the supervisor’s responsibility It is a shared responsibility It is mostly the student’s responsibility t is entirely the student’s responsibility Q: Does the supervisor have direct responsibility for the standard of the dissertation / thesis, OR, does the supervisor offer advice only and leaves all decisions concerning content, format and standards to the student? 100% 0 100% Q: In the end, is it up to the supervisor to decide which theories / theoretical frameworks are most appropriate for the study, OR, does the student have a right to choose their own theories / theoretical frameworks, even if it conflicts with the supervisor’s? It is entirely for the supervisor to decide It is mostly for the supervisor to decide It is a shared responsibility It is mostly for the student to decide It is entirely for the student to decide  Responses: “The student should choose the framework methodology appropriate for their study. The supervisor should advise. Ultimately, it's the student's choice.”  “It depends on whether the student is self-funded or is part of a research team. Supervisor for funded, more student for unfunded”. Q: Should the supervisor initiate frequent meetings with the student, OR, it is up to the student to decide when they want meetings with the supervisor? It is entirely the supervisor’s responsibility to initiate meetings It is mostly the supervisor’s responsibility to initiate meetings It is a shared responsibility to initiate meetings It is mostly the student’ s responsibility to initiate meetings It is entirely the student’s s responsibility to initiate meetings  Responses: “If the doctoral candidate knows the milestones and timing of meeting them, then it is their responsibility to meet them.”  “Arranging tutorial meetings should be entirely the student's responsibility. It is not for the supervisor to chase students about their work as doing so breeds a culture of dependency.”  “Sometimes it's necessary for the supervisor to reach out to the student - to make sure they are OK”.  Responses: “Thesis is an end component of the doctoral research experience. It is the student's responsibility... it's the student's thesis after all.”  “As a supervisor I just want to know that writing practice or final/polished drafts are in production. I wouldn't want a student to submit work without my approval.”  “It is the student that achieves the degree or has their thesis (with their name on the front of the thesis) that is stored on a repository. To supervise is to overlook, assist, enthuse and encourage; they are not a co-author.”
  • 5. Emerging typologies: inferences from the data from students and supervisors - Indicative voices of learners and supervisors – utterances and inferences from the data Candidates/students - 1. Expectant voice – “Tell me what to write and I’ll write it” – ‘sparrow mouth’, spoon-fed – “tell me what to think”. 2. Passive voice – “Ok, if you think that’s best for me” - lacking confidence, naive, accepting – “whatever’s best”? 3. Imagination voice – “I Didn’t know what to expect, so I made it up” – worriers, disappointed, and panders to calamity-car-crash stories – “No-one told me I had to write a thesis and have a viva!” Supervisors/Lecturers - 1. Worthiness voice – “Give me something worth looking at” (and then we’ll meet) 2. Eager-to-impress voice – “I’ll read anything, anytime, give you loads of feedback”. 3. Safe pair of hands voice – “Don’t worry, I’ll sort it” - Gets a project ‘over the line’, experienced, long view. 4. Contractual voice – “If you do your bit (first) I’ll do mine” – A gamble of who’ll make the effort first. Purely professional (personal matters should not be discussed) Personal relationships are important for successful supervision Q: Do you agree that staff-student relationships are purely professional and personal matters should not intrude, OR, are close personal relationships essential for successful supervision? Contrasting Responses:  “After 20+ years....I'm not actually interested in personal matters of my students. I used to try to be "everyone's friend" - but it is tiring and is not advantageous to anyone”.  “Empathising with a students needs, motivations and behaviours is critical especially if you're working alongside for 3 years +”
  • 6. Emerging typologies: inferences from the data from students and supervisors - Indicative voices of learners and supervisors – utterances and inferences from the data Candidates/students - 1. Expectant voice – “Tell me what to write and I’ll write it” – ‘sparrow mouth’, spoon-fed – “tell me what to think”. 2. Passive voice – “Ok, if you think that’s best for me” - lacking confidence, naive, accepting – “whatever’s best”? 3. Imagination voice – “I Didn’t know what to expect, so I made it up” – worriers, disappointed, and panders to calamity-car-crash stories – “No-one told me I had to write a thesis and have a viva!” Supervisors/Lecturers - 1. Worthiness voice – “Give me something worth looking at” (and then we’ll meet) 2. Eager-to-impress voice – “I’ll read anything, anytime, give you loads of feedback”. 3. Safe pair of hands voice – “Don’t worry, I’ll sort it” - Gets a project ‘over the line’, experienced, long view. 4. Contractual voice – “If you do your bit (first) I’ll do mine” – A gamble of who’ll make the effort first. Purely professional (personal matters should not be discussed) Personal relationships are important for successful supervision Q: Do you agree that staff-student relationships are purely professional and personal matters should not intrude, OR, are close personal relationships essential for successful supervision? Contrasting Responses:  “After 20+ years....I'm not actually interested in personal matters of my students. I used to try to be "everyone's friend" - but it is tiring and is not advantageous to anyone”.  “Empathising with a students needs, motivations and behaviours is critical especially if you're working alongside for 3 years +” Padlet Question 2. What other kinds of narrative types have you encountered from student researchers and supervisors? Please outline your thoughts again on Padlet. You might see such narratives around- 1. Project design and initial stages of a doctoral programme 2. Progress / ongoing development of research 3. Examination phase – who’s judging who?
  • 7. Data reveals a disconnect – has supervision in research lost sight of the person? 1. The ‘P’ in a PhD = Person + Project - Q: Has the person (and to some degree their learning needs) slipped into the shadow of the ‘Research Problem’ … the person becoming invisible … and/or is research supervision itself becoming invisible? 3. Consistency versus Standardisation - Consistent good supervision does not necessarily mean Standardised supervision e.g. the standard edict to meet every 6 weeks, may not be an indicator, or lead to consistently ‘good supervision’. 2. Appreciating the Power Imbalance -  The Learner thinks it’s (i.e. all aspects of project development) their responsibility  The Supervisors think it’s (i.e. all aspects of project development) the students’ responsibility - Thank you for listening and contributing to this UKCGE workshop - Our current thinking is that:  Candidates come to us (for our doctoral ‘powers’) to learn through research.  Recognise when a learning relationship is working, and when it’s not.  The power imbalance between ‘learner and teacher’ means the onus is upon the supervisor to act ‘proactively’ to set up positive learning relationships e.g. anticipating key milestones, for learning through research. 3. Padlet Question. What issues might arise by confusing consistency and standardisation in supervisory practice?
  • 8. Bibliography of our recent Doctoral Education initiatives Clive Palmer, Chris Hughes and Andrew Sprake (2024) ‘Getting on with strangers’: collaborations, expectations, and doctoral relations. 6th International Conference on Developments in Doctoral Education & Training. UKCGE, Bath, 21st -22nd March 2024 [abstract submitted] https://ukcge.ac.uk/events/6th-international-conference-on-developments-in-doctoral-education-training Clive Palmer, Andrew Sprake and Chris Hughes (2023) Managing the expectations of doctoral students and their supervisors: UK perspective. Encyclopedia, 3, 1474-1488. https://www.mdpi.com/2673-8392/3/4/105 Clive Palmer and Chris Hughes (2023) UKCGE Recognised Research Supervisor: Associate and Full. An exemplar for sharing good practice between two Graduate Research Schools in the Northwest of England. UKCGE Annual Conference. University of Edinburgh. 3-4 July. https://www.academia.edu/104275708/Clive_Palmer_and_Chris_Hughes_2023_UKCGE_Recognised_Research_Supervisor_Associate_and_Full_An_exemplar_for_sharing_good_practi ce_between_two_Graduate_Research_Schools_in_the_Northwest_of_England_UKCGE_Annual_Conference_University_of_Edinburgh_3_4_July Chris Hughes and Clive Palmer (2023) PGR Supervision and Learning: A Collaborative Development. SOLSTICE and Centre for Learning and Teaching (CLT) Conference. Edge Hill University, Ormskirk, UK. 14/15th June. https://www.academia.edu/103453362/Chris_Hughes_and_Clive_Palmer_2023_PGR_Supervision_and_Learning_A_Collaborative_Development_SOLSTICE_and_Centre_for_Learning_ and_Teaching_CLT_Conference_Edge_Hill_University_Ormskirk_UK_14_15th_June Clive Palmer and Chris Hughes (2023) UKCGE Postgraduate Research Supervision: An Inter-Collaborative Workshop. Graduate Research School, Edge Hill University, Ormskirk. 1st February https://www.academia.edu/95679312/Clive_Palmer_and_Chris_Hughes_2023_UKCGE_Postgraduate_Research_Supervision_An_Inter_Collaborative_Workshop_Graduate_Research_S chool_Edge_Hill_University_Ormskirk_UK_1st_February