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Making sure tissue is not the issue -
Pulmonologist’s perspective
Dr. Aditya Jindal
Interventional Pulmonologist & Intensivist
Jindal Clinics
SCO 21, Sec 20D, Chandigarh
DM Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine (PGI Chandigarh),
FCCP
Why tissue is the issue!
• Histopathological diagnosis
• Ruling out alternate diagnoses
• Staging
• Molecular testing
• Rebiopsy
• Research
How to make sure?
Think before you do –
• Selection of correct site
• Choice of most appropriate procedure
• Size and number of biopsies/ other
procedures
• Pre-decide all you need from the tissue
• Availability of tissue for extended studies –
• mutations
• Procedures
– BAL (bronchoalveolar
lavage)
– EBB (endobronchial
biopsy)
– TBLB (trans bronchial
lung biopsy)
– TBNA (Trans bronchial
needle aspiration from
lymph nodes)
• EBUS-TBNA
• Thoracoscopic pleural
biopsy
Bronchoalveolar lavage
Endobronchial biopsy
Trans-bronchial lung biopsy
5-6 biopsies taken (5-20 sq mm)
Specimen should fill cup of forceps
More useful
• Diffuse lung involvement
• Large masses
• Peribronchial area
Less useful
• Small nodules
• Peripheral lesions
EBUS
(Endobronchial
ultrasound)
Radial probe endobronchial ultrasound for the diagnosis of peripheral lung cancer: systematic
review and meta-analysis. Streinfort et al. Eur Respir J 2011; 37: 902–910
Comparison of Endobronchial Ultrasound, Positron Emission Tomography, and CT for Lymph
Node Staging of Lung Cancer. Yasufuku K et al. Chest 2006; 130:710-718
Characteristics of CT, PET, and EBUS TBNA in the Correct Prediction of
Mediastinal Lymph Node Staging
• Meta-analysis of almost 3000 patients
• EBUS-TBNA
– Sensitivity of 0.88–0.93 (95% CI, 0.79–0.94)
– Specificity of 1.00 (95% CI, 0.92–1.00)
– NPV of 91% (range, 83–96%)
• Sehgal et al. Endosonography Versus
Mediastinoscopy in Mediastinal Staging of Lung
Cancer: Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis. Ann
Thorac Surg 2016
• Cell block
– Immunohistochemistry
– Molecular testing success of >90%
– One of the lowest insufficiency rates (4%) for EGFR and KRAS
mutational analysis
• VanderLann et al. Endobronchial ultrasound-guided
transbronchial needle aspiration (EBUS-TBNA): an
overview and update for the cytopathologist. Cancer
Cytopathol. 2014
• Billah et al. EGFR and KRAS mutations in lung carcinoma:
molecular testing by using cytology specimens. Cancer
Cytopathol. 201
EBUS diagnosis Number Percentage
Sarcoidosis 137 55%
TB 41 16%
Malignancy 19 8%
Others 5 2%
Normal 14 5.6%
Total 249
EBUS yield
Positive 216 87%
Negative 33 13%
Malignant Pleural Effusions
12
Sensitivity of
different biopsy
methods (cytologic
and histologic
results combined)
for the diagnosis of
malignant pleural
effusions.
Patient with
malignant pleural
effusion due to
breast cancer. Small
whitish tumor
nodules on the
parietal (chest wall)
pleura are seen.
Tumor nodules and
whitish areas with
pleural thickening
on the parietal
(chest wall) pleura
are seen.
Bhatnagar R, Maskell NA. Medical pleuroscopy.
Clinics in chest medicine. 2013;34(3):487-500.
Thoracoscopy
Malignant mesothelioma presenting as parietal
pleural nodules
H&E, 100X showing tumour cells arranged
in sheets infiltrating the soft tissue.
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Making sure tissue is not the issue - Pulmonologist’s perspective | Jindal Clinic Chandigarh

  • 1. Making sure tissue is not the issue - Pulmonologist’s perspective Dr. Aditya Jindal Interventional Pulmonologist & Intensivist Jindal Clinics SCO 21, Sec 20D, Chandigarh DM Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine (PGI Chandigarh), FCCP
  • 2. Why tissue is the issue! • Histopathological diagnosis • Ruling out alternate diagnoses • Staging • Molecular testing • Rebiopsy • Research
  • 3. How to make sure? Think before you do – • Selection of correct site • Choice of most appropriate procedure • Size and number of biopsies/ other procedures • Pre-decide all you need from the tissue • Availability of tissue for extended studies – • mutations
  • 4. • Procedures – BAL (bronchoalveolar lavage) – EBB (endobronchial biopsy) – TBLB (trans bronchial lung biopsy) – TBNA (Trans bronchial needle aspiration from lymph nodes) • EBUS-TBNA • Thoracoscopic pleural biopsy
  • 6. Trans-bronchial lung biopsy 5-6 biopsies taken (5-20 sq mm) Specimen should fill cup of forceps More useful • Diffuse lung involvement • Large masses • Peribronchial area Less useful • Small nodules • Peripheral lesions
  • 8. Radial probe endobronchial ultrasound for the diagnosis of peripheral lung cancer: systematic review and meta-analysis. Streinfort et al. Eur Respir J 2011; 37: 902–910
  • 9. Comparison of Endobronchial Ultrasound, Positron Emission Tomography, and CT for Lymph Node Staging of Lung Cancer. Yasufuku K et al. Chest 2006; 130:710-718 Characteristics of CT, PET, and EBUS TBNA in the Correct Prediction of Mediastinal Lymph Node Staging
  • 10. • Meta-analysis of almost 3000 patients • EBUS-TBNA – Sensitivity of 0.88–0.93 (95% CI, 0.79–0.94) – Specificity of 1.00 (95% CI, 0.92–1.00) – NPV of 91% (range, 83–96%) • Sehgal et al. Endosonography Versus Mediastinoscopy in Mediastinal Staging of Lung Cancer: Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis. Ann Thorac Surg 2016 • Cell block – Immunohistochemistry – Molecular testing success of >90% – One of the lowest insufficiency rates (4%) for EGFR and KRAS mutational analysis • VanderLann et al. Endobronchial ultrasound-guided transbronchial needle aspiration (EBUS-TBNA): an overview and update for the cytopathologist. Cancer Cytopathol. 2014 • Billah et al. EGFR and KRAS mutations in lung carcinoma: molecular testing by using cytology specimens. Cancer Cytopathol. 201
  • 11. EBUS diagnosis Number Percentage Sarcoidosis 137 55% TB 41 16% Malignancy 19 8% Others 5 2% Normal 14 5.6% Total 249 EBUS yield Positive 216 87% Negative 33 13%
  • 12. Malignant Pleural Effusions 12 Sensitivity of different biopsy methods (cytologic and histologic results combined) for the diagnosis of malignant pleural effusions. Patient with malignant pleural effusion due to breast cancer. Small whitish tumor nodules on the parietal (chest wall) pleura are seen. Tumor nodules and whitish areas with pleural thickening on the parietal (chest wall) pleura are seen.
  • 13. Bhatnagar R, Maskell NA. Medical pleuroscopy. Clinics in chest medicine. 2013;34(3):487-500. Thoracoscopy
  • 14. Malignant mesothelioma presenting as parietal pleural nodules H&E, 100X showing tumour cells arranged in sheets infiltrating the soft tissue.