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LOKPAL BILL  GOVERNMENT  VS TEAM ANNA  OBJECTIVE  VIEWS
TEAM ANNA  SHOULD THE PM COME UNDER THE AMBIT OF LOKPAL? GOVERNMENT COMPLAIN OF ‘CORRUPTION’ 7 MEMBER LOKPAL PANEL GUILTY OR NOT GUILTY PM WILL HAVE TO RESIGN POLITICAL INSTABILITY DURING ERA OF COALITION GOVTS/MULTIPLE PARTIES NO POLITICAL SEAT IN INDIA IN WAR LIKE SITUATION COMPLAIN OF ‘CORRUPTION’ COMPLAIN NOT ENTERTAINED UNLESS PM DEMITS OFFICE AFTER COMPLETING HIS TERM FORMER PM PROSECUTED IF GUILTY STABLE GOVT. FOR 5 YEARS EVEN IN DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES
WHERE WILL THE GOVT. GET 50,000 “HONEST” JUNIOR LOKPALS, FROM THE SAME ‘CORRUPT SYSTEM’? TEAM ANNA  SHOULD LOWER BUREAUCRACY BE UNDER  AMBIT OF LOKPAL? GOVERNMENT YES, IT SHOULD COME WILL CREATE A FORCE OF 50,000 JUNIOR ‘LOKPALS’ TO MONITOR THE STATE AND CENTRAL BUREAUCRACY  EVERYBODY WILL OVERSEE EVERYBODY NO IT SHOULD NOT COME, ONLY HIGHER BUREAUCRACY FOR LARGE SCAMS  1.5 CRORE GOVT EMPLOYEES – SYSTEMS LIKE RTI, PUBLIC GRIEVENCES, E-GOVERNANCE ALREADY IN PLACE AND ARE BENIFITING  ‘AAM AADMI’  ! THE FEAR OF A LOKPAL ENQUIRY WILL RESULT IN SLOW DECISION MAKING AT LOWER LEVEL, PAIN FOR  AAM AADMI  !
SUCH ALLEGATIONS SHOULD BE LEFT TO BE INVESTIGATED AND PROSECUTED BY THE PARLIAMENT AND IN COURT TEAM ANNA  SHOULD  MP’S “CASH FOR VOTE” ETC BE INCLUDED? GOVERNMENT YES, IT SHOULD COME ALLEGATION OF BRIBERY FOR VOTE OR SPEAK IN PARLIAMENT 7 MEMBER LOKPAL MAY/MAY NOT PROSECUTE AN ELECTED MP NO IT SHOULD NOT COME PARLIAMENT IS SUPREME AND UNDER CONSTITUTION ITS POWERS SHOULD NOT BE DISSOLVED, UNLESS THEY ARE AMMENDED  UNLESS ‘RIGHT TO RECALL’ IS IMPLEMENTED WITH ELECTORAL REFORMS THIS IS SUBVERSION OF POWERS OF PARLIAMENT
RESULTS IN INTERFERING IN THE BASIC STRUCTURE OF CONSTITUTION,WHERE THE 3 ORGANS- LEGILATURE, EXECUTIVE AND JUDICIARY ARE INDEPENDENT  LAW ALREADY DRAFTED AND ON WEBSITE OF MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE, DUE SUGGESTIONS WILL BE ENTERTAINED AND REMOVAL OF JUDGES WILL FOLLOW ACCORDING TO THE LAW, LOKPAL CANNOT INTEREFE IN BASIC ORGANS TEAM ANNA  SHOULD JUDICIARY BE BROUGHT UNDER LOKPAL? GOVERNMENT YES, IT SHOULD COME 7 MEMBER LOKPAL MAY/MAY NOT PROSECUTE THE JUDGE SOLUTION IN JUDICIAL ACCOUNTABILITY BILL, NOT IN LOKPAL BILL
CHANGES THE BASIC FEDERAL STRUCTURE OF INDIAN CONSTITUTION MORE LOKAYUKTAS CAN BE APPOINTED BY THE STATES WITH THEIR OWN LAWS TEAM ANNA  LOKAYUKTA GOVERNMENT THE SAME BILL SHOULD PROVIDE LOKPAL AT CENTRE AND LOKAYUKTA IN STATES MORE THAN 18 STATES ALREADY HAVE A LOKAYUKTA
EACH DEPARTMENT SHOULD SPECIFY WHICH WORK WILL BE DONE BY WHICH OFFICER IN HOW MUCH TIME LOKPAL TO ACT AS OFFICER AND PENALTY TO BE IMPOSED IF NOT FOLLOWED THE PM MONITORS THE MINISTRIES, THE MINISTERIES MONITOR THEIR DEPARTMENTS, RTI IN PLACE, SCOPE OF A LOT OF IMPROVEMENT BY ENGAGING IN REFORMS ON LARGE SCALE  TEAM ANNA  SHOULD EACH DEPT HAVE A CITIZEN CHARTER FOR GRIEVANCE REDRESSEL ? GOVERNMENT YES ALREADY A PUBLIC GRIEVANCE REDRESS CELL IN PLACE IN CENTRAL GOVT LOKPAL OVERSEES EVERY LITTLE THING, LOKPAL BECOMES SUPREME
LOKPAL TO PROVIDE PROTECTION COMPLAINTS BY WHISTLEBLOWERS MUST BE TRACKED AND THEY MUST BE PROTECTED BILL IN THE DOMAIN OF STANDING COMMITTEE OF PARLIAMENT, BEING DISCUSSED AND RELAVENT SUGGESTIONS WILL BE TAKEN. DUE PROCESS OF LEGISLATION WILL BE FOLLOWED  TEAM ANNA  WHISTLEBLOWER PROTECTION GOVERNMENT WORKING ON A SEPARATE WHISTLEBLOWER PROTECTION BILL
3 MONTHS OF JAIL IF AGAINST A MEMBER OF LOKPAL NO JAIL, FINE UPTO ONE LAKH IMPOSED BY THE LOKPAL THIS CLAUSE WILL HAVE ADVERSE IMPACT ON THE FUNCTIONING OF A LOKPAL. MANY LESS COMPLAINTS WOULD BE RECEIVED  TEAM ANNA  FALSE/FRIVILOUS COMPLAINTS TO LOKPAL GOVERNMENT 2 TO 5 YEARS OF JAIL IF A SERIOUS COMPLAINT.  20,000 TO 5 LAKH RUPEE PENALTY  ANYBODY CAN MAKE ANY COMPLAINT AND WILL BE SCOTT FREE
LOKPAL TO INITIATE PROSECUTION ACCORDING TO PAC (PREVENTION OF CORRUPTION ACT 1988) LOKPAL CAN APPOINT RETIRED JUDGES/JUDICIAL OFFICERS TO PROSECUTE  THE COMPETANT AUTHORITY AFTER RECEIVING THE REPORT FROM LOKPAL HAS TO TAKE ACTION WITHIN 30 DAYS AND INFORM THE LOKPAL  TEAM ANNA  DISMISSAL OF A GOVT. OFFICIAL GUILTY OF CORRUPTION GOVERNMENT LOKPAL TO FILE A CASE IN SPECIAL COURT PROSECUTION OF PM TO BE INITIATED BY SC ONLY BE SANCTION OF LOKPAL, HENCE LOKPAL BECOMES  SUPER  SANCTIONING AUTHORITY  !  FOR PM/MINISTERS , THE REPORT OF LOKPAL TO BE TABLED IN LOK SABHA, THEN ACTION WITHIN 90 DAYS
MAXIMUM PUNISHMENT OF LIFE IMPRISONMENT  PUBLIC SERVANT TO BE REMOVED IF FOUND GUILTY TEAM ANNA  PUNISHMENT OF CORRUPTION GOVERNMENT MAXIMUM PUNISHMENT OF 10 YEARS PUBLIC SERVANT TO BE REMOVED IF FOUND GUILTY ACCORDING TO IPC, LIFE IMPRISONMENT IS 14 YEARS IF CONDUCT IS GOOD, FOR OFFENCES LIKE MURDER, FOR CORRUPTION- 10 YEARS SEEMS JUSTIFIED
CBI UNDER LOKPAL TEAM ANNA  MERGER OF CBI WITH LOKPAL GOVERNMENT LOKPAL WILL HAVE ITS OWN INVESTIGATIVE WING NO SANCTION  SHALL BE REQUIRED BY THE LOKPAL TO INQUIRE ANY COMPLAINT AGAINST A PUBLIC SERVANT ALREADY BURDENED CBI CANNOT PERFORM SO MANY FUNCTIONS, ITS WING SHOULD BE STRENGTHENED. MAKE CBI INDEPENDENT CBI UNDER LOKPAL CANNOT BE INDEPENDENT, FOR CBI TO BE INDEPENDENT- IT SHOULD BE MONITERED BY THE SUPREME COURT LIKE IN THE RECENT CORRUPTION CASES
TO THE PEOPLE TEAM ANNA  WHO WILL LOKPAL BE ACCOUNTABLE TO? GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABLE TO ALL THE EXECUTIVE, LEGILATURE AND JUDICIARY-ALL ORGANS OF THE CONSTITUTION THIS WILL JUSTIFY ITS FUNCTION OF ACTING AS A ‘REAL OMBUDSMEN’ BETWEEN ALL ORGANS TO BE PROSECUTED BY SUPREME COURT INITIATES PROCEEDINGS BY RECEIVING A COMPLAINT LOKPAL IS A ‘  UELECTED SUPER  EXECUTIVE AUTHORITY ’, ACCOUNTABLE TO NONE- AS IT HAS THE POWERS TO PROSECUTE- LEGISLATURE, EXECUTIVE AS WELL AS JUDICIARY
SELECTION COMMITTEE OF 4 JUDGES, 2 POLITICIANS AND 2 BUREAUCRATS. MEMBERS OF THAT COMMITTEE BE SELECTED BY 10 CVIL SOCIETY REPRESENTATIVES  TEAM ANNA  SELECTION OF LOKPAL MEMBERS GOVERNMENT SELECTION COMMITTEE OF 5 POLITICIANS, 2 JUDGES, AN EMINENT JURIST AND ONE EMINENT PERSON WITH DEALING WITH ANTI CORRUPTION RTI CAN BE USED TO ATTAIN INFORMATION ON WHAT GROUNDS, THE COMMITTEE SELECTED THE MEMBERS OF THE LOKPAL DEFINATION OF ‘CIVIL SOCIETY’ MEMBERS VAGUE. WHO REPRESENTS THAT ‘CIVIL SOCIETY’ NOT KNOWN
LOKPAL BUDGET CHARGED TO CONSOLIDATED FUND OF INDIA TEAM ANNA  FINANCES OF LOKPAL GOVERNMENT BUDGET TO BE DECIDED BY THE FINANCE MINISTRY BUDGET DECIDED BY LOKPAL, NOT TO EXCEED 0.25% OF REVENUE OF GOVT OF INDIA LOKPAL BECOMES THE ONLY ORGAN OF THE ‘GOVT’ WHOSE BUDGET IS NOT DECIDED BY FINANCE MINISTRY. AGAIN A  ‘SUPER AUTHORITY’  ! LOKPAL BUDGET CHARGED TO CONSOLIDATED FUND OF INDIA INDIA IS GROWING AT 8.5% PER ANNUM. NO MINISTRY IN GOVT OF INDIA IS FACING REAL FINANCIAL PROBLEMS
LOKPAL CAN TAP PHONES TEAM ANNA  POWERS TO TAP PHONES GOVERNMENT ENDANGERING NATIONAL SECURITY, IF HOME SEC IS NOT CONSULTED SANCTION OF HOME SEC REQUIRED TO TAP PHONES
NO NGO’S COVERED OTHER THAN GOVT. FUNDED TEAM ANNA  NGO’S UNDER LOKPAL GOVERNMENT NO TRANSPARENCY FOR PRIVATE PLAYERS, THE SO CALLED CORRUPTION CRUSADE IS ONLY AGAINST GOVERNMENT AND NOT THE ENTIRE SYSTEM ALL NGO’S,  OFFICERS OF ORGANIZATIONS HAVING AN ANNUAL INCOME  ABOVE A SPECIFIED AMOUNT RECEIVING FUNDS FROM THE GOVERNMENT OR THE PUBLIC.  CORRUPTION IS A UNIVERSAL PROBLEM AND NEEDS TO DEALT WITH COMPREHENSIVELY
DO WE NEED A  SUPER MONSTER  OR AN  OMBUDSMEN  ? YOU BE THE JUDGE !

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Lokpal Vs Janlopal

  • 1. LOKPAL BILL GOVERNMENT VS TEAM ANNA OBJECTIVE VIEWS
  • 2. TEAM ANNA SHOULD THE PM COME UNDER THE AMBIT OF LOKPAL? GOVERNMENT COMPLAIN OF ‘CORRUPTION’ 7 MEMBER LOKPAL PANEL GUILTY OR NOT GUILTY PM WILL HAVE TO RESIGN POLITICAL INSTABILITY DURING ERA OF COALITION GOVTS/MULTIPLE PARTIES NO POLITICAL SEAT IN INDIA IN WAR LIKE SITUATION COMPLAIN OF ‘CORRUPTION’ COMPLAIN NOT ENTERTAINED UNLESS PM DEMITS OFFICE AFTER COMPLETING HIS TERM FORMER PM PROSECUTED IF GUILTY STABLE GOVT. FOR 5 YEARS EVEN IN DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES
  • 3. WHERE WILL THE GOVT. GET 50,000 “HONEST” JUNIOR LOKPALS, FROM THE SAME ‘CORRUPT SYSTEM’? TEAM ANNA SHOULD LOWER BUREAUCRACY BE UNDER AMBIT OF LOKPAL? GOVERNMENT YES, IT SHOULD COME WILL CREATE A FORCE OF 50,000 JUNIOR ‘LOKPALS’ TO MONITOR THE STATE AND CENTRAL BUREAUCRACY EVERYBODY WILL OVERSEE EVERYBODY NO IT SHOULD NOT COME, ONLY HIGHER BUREAUCRACY FOR LARGE SCAMS 1.5 CRORE GOVT EMPLOYEES – SYSTEMS LIKE RTI, PUBLIC GRIEVENCES, E-GOVERNANCE ALREADY IN PLACE AND ARE BENIFITING ‘AAM AADMI’ ! THE FEAR OF A LOKPAL ENQUIRY WILL RESULT IN SLOW DECISION MAKING AT LOWER LEVEL, PAIN FOR AAM AADMI !
  • 4. SUCH ALLEGATIONS SHOULD BE LEFT TO BE INVESTIGATED AND PROSECUTED BY THE PARLIAMENT AND IN COURT TEAM ANNA SHOULD MP’S “CASH FOR VOTE” ETC BE INCLUDED? GOVERNMENT YES, IT SHOULD COME ALLEGATION OF BRIBERY FOR VOTE OR SPEAK IN PARLIAMENT 7 MEMBER LOKPAL MAY/MAY NOT PROSECUTE AN ELECTED MP NO IT SHOULD NOT COME PARLIAMENT IS SUPREME AND UNDER CONSTITUTION ITS POWERS SHOULD NOT BE DISSOLVED, UNLESS THEY ARE AMMENDED UNLESS ‘RIGHT TO RECALL’ IS IMPLEMENTED WITH ELECTORAL REFORMS THIS IS SUBVERSION OF POWERS OF PARLIAMENT
  • 5. RESULTS IN INTERFERING IN THE BASIC STRUCTURE OF CONSTITUTION,WHERE THE 3 ORGANS- LEGILATURE, EXECUTIVE AND JUDICIARY ARE INDEPENDENT LAW ALREADY DRAFTED AND ON WEBSITE OF MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE, DUE SUGGESTIONS WILL BE ENTERTAINED AND REMOVAL OF JUDGES WILL FOLLOW ACCORDING TO THE LAW, LOKPAL CANNOT INTEREFE IN BASIC ORGANS TEAM ANNA SHOULD JUDICIARY BE BROUGHT UNDER LOKPAL? GOVERNMENT YES, IT SHOULD COME 7 MEMBER LOKPAL MAY/MAY NOT PROSECUTE THE JUDGE SOLUTION IN JUDICIAL ACCOUNTABILITY BILL, NOT IN LOKPAL BILL
  • 6. CHANGES THE BASIC FEDERAL STRUCTURE OF INDIAN CONSTITUTION MORE LOKAYUKTAS CAN BE APPOINTED BY THE STATES WITH THEIR OWN LAWS TEAM ANNA LOKAYUKTA GOVERNMENT THE SAME BILL SHOULD PROVIDE LOKPAL AT CENTRE AND LOKAYUKTA IN STATES MORE THAN 18 STATES ALREADY HAVE A LOKAYUKTA
  • 7. EACH DEPARTMENT SHOULD SPECIFY WHICH WORK WILL BE DONE BY WHICH OFFICER IN HOW MUCH TIME LOKPAL TO ACT AS OFFICER AND PENALTY TO BE IMPOSED IF NOT FOLLOWED THE PM MONITORS THE MINISTRIES, THE MINISTERIES MONITOR THEIR DEPARTMENTS, RTI IN PLACE, SCOPE OF A LOT OF IMPROVEMENT BY ENGAGING IN REFORMS ON LARGE SCALE TEAM ANNA SHOULD EACH DEPT HAVE A CITIZEN CHARTER FOR GRIEVANCE REDRESSEL ? GOVERNMENT YES ALREADY A PUBLIC GRIEVANCE REDRESS CELL IN PLACE IN CENTRAL GOVT LOKPAL OVERSEES EVERY LITTLE THING, LOKPAL BECOMES SUPREME
  • 8. LOKPAL TO PROVIDE PROTECTION COMPLAINTS BY WHISTLEBLOWERS MUST BE TRACKED AND THEY MUST BE PROTECTED BILL IN THE DOMAIN OF STANDING COMMITTEE OF PARLIAMENT, BEING DISCUSSED AND RELAVENT SUGGESTIONS WILL BE TAKEN. DUE PROCESS OF LEGISLATION WILL BE FOLLOWED TEAM ANNA WHISTLEBLOWER PROTECTION GOVERNMENT WORKING ON A SEPARATE WHISTLEBLOWER PROTECTION BILL
  • 9. 3 MONTHS OF JAIL IF AGAINST A MEMBER OF LOKPAL NO JAIL, FINE UPTO ONE LAKH IMPOSED BY THE LOKPAL THIS CLAUSE WILL HAVE ADVERSE IMPACT ON THE FUNCTIONING OF A LOKPAL. MANY LESS COMPLAINTS WOULD BE RECEIVED TEAM ANNA FALSE/FRIVILOUS COMPLAINTS TO LOKPAL GOVERNMENT 2 TO 5 YEARS OF JAIL IF A SERIOUS COMPLAINT. 20,000 TO 5 LAKH RUPEE PENALTY ANYBODY CAN MAKE ANY COMPLAINT AND WILL BE SCOTT FREE
  • 10. LOKPAL TO INITIATE PROSECUTION ACCORDING TO PAC (PREVENTION OF CORRUPTION ACT 1988) LOKPAL CAN APPOINT RETIRED JUDGES/JUDICIAL OFFICERS TO PROSECUTE THE COMPETANT AUTHORITY AFTER RECEIVING THE REPORT FROM LOKPAL HAS TO TAKE ACTION WITHIN 30 DAYS AND INFORM THE LOKPAL TEAM ANNA DISMISSAL OF A GOVT. OFFICIAL GUILTY OF CORRUPTION GOVERNMENT LOKPAL TO FILE A CASE IN SPECIAL COURT PROSECUTION OF PM TO BE INITIATED BY SC ONLY BE SANCTION OF LOKPAL, HENCE LOKPAL BECOMES SUPER SANCTIONING AUTHORITY ! FOR PM/MINISTERS , THE REPORT OF LOKPAL TO BE TABLED IN LOK SABHA, THEN ACTION WITHIN 90 DAYS
  • 11. MAXIMUM PUNISHMENT OF LIFE IMPRISONMENT PUBLIC SERVANT TO BE REMOVED IF FOUND GUILTY TEAM ANNA PUNISHMENT OF CORRUPTION GOVERNMENT MAXIMUM PUNISHMENT OF 10 YEARS PUBLIC SERVANT TO BE REMOVED IF FOUND GUILTY ACCORDING TO IPC, LIFE IMPRISONMENT IS 14 YEARS IF CONDUCT IS GOOD, FOR OFFENCES LIKE MURDER, FOR CORRUPTION- 10 YEARS SEEMS JUSTIFIED
  • 12. CBI UNDER LOKPAL TEAM ANNA MERGER OF CBI WITH LOKPAL GOVERNMENT LOKPAL WILL HAVE ITS OWN INVESTIGATIVE WING NO SANCTION SHALL BE REQUIRED BY THE LOKPAL TO INQUIRE ANY COMPLAINT AGAINST A PUBLIC SERVANT ALREADY BURDENED CBI CANNOT PERFORM SO MANY FUNCTIONS, ITS WING SHOULD BE STRENGTHENED. MAKE CBI INDEPENDENT CBI UNDER LOKPAL CANNOT BE INDEPENDENT, FOR CBI TO BE INDEPENDENT- IT SHOULD BE MONITERED BY THE SUPREME COURT LIKE IN THE RECENT CORRUPTION CASES
  • 13. TO THE PEOPLE TEAM ANNA WHO WILL LOKPAL BE ACCOUNTABLE TO? GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABLE TO ALL THE EXECUTIVE, LEGILATURE AND JUDICIARY-ALL ORGANS OF THE CONSTITUTION THIS WILL JUSTIFY ITS FUNCTION OF ACTING AS A ‘REAL OMBUDSMEN’ BETWEEN ALL ORGANS TO BE PROSECUTED BY SUPREME COURT INITIATES PROCEEDINGS BY RECEIVING A COMPLAINT LOKPAL IS A ‘ UELECTED SUPER EXECUTIVE AUTHORITY ’, ACCOUNTABLE TO NONE- AS IT HAS THE POWERS TO PROSECUTE- LEGISLATURE, EXECUTIVE AS WELL AS JUDICIARY
  • 14. SELECTION COMMITTEE OF 4 JUDGES, 2 POLITICIANS AND 2 BUREAUCRATS. MEMBERS OF THAT COMMITTEE BE SELECTED BY 10 CVIL SOCIETY REPRESENTATIVES TEAM ANNA SELECTION OF LOKPAL MEMBERS GOVERNMENT SELECTION COMMITTEE OF 5 POLITICIANS, 2 JUDGES, AN EMINENT JURIST AND ONE EMINENT PERSON WITH DEALING WITH ANTI CORRUPTION RTI CAN BE USED TO ATTAIN INFORMATION ON WHAT GROUNDS, THE COMMITTEE SELECTED THE MEMBERS OF THE LOKPAL DEFINATION OF ‘CIVIL SOCIETY’ MEMBERS VAGUE. WHO REPRESENTS THAT ‘CIVIL SOCIETY’ NOT KNOWN
  • 15. LOKPAL BUDGET CHARGED TO CONSOLIDATED FUND OF INDIA TEAM ANNA FINANCES OF LOKPAL GOVERNMENT BUDGET TO BE DECIDED BY THE FINANCE MINISTRY BUDGET DECIDED BY LOKPAL, NOT TO EXCEED 0.25% OF REVENUE OF GOVT OF INDIA LOKPAL BECOMES THE ONLY ORGAN OF THE ‘GOVT’ WHOSE BUDGET IS NOT DECIDED BY FINANCE MINISTRY. AGAIN A ‘SUPER AUTHORITY’ ! LOKPAL BUDGET CHARGED TO CONSOLIDATED FUND OF INDIA INDIA IS GROWING AT 8.5% PER ANNUM. NO MINISTRY IN GOVT OF INDIA IS FACING REAL FINANCIAL PROBLEMS
  • 16. LOKPAL CAN TAP PHONES TEAM ANNA POWERS TO TAP PHONES GOVERNMENT ENDANGERING NATIONAL SECURITY, IF HOME SEC IS NOT CONSULTED SANCTION OF HOME SEC REQUIRED TO TAP PHONES
  • 17. NO NGO’S COVERED OTHER THAN GOVT. FUNDED TEAM ANNA NGO’S UNDER LOKPAL GOVERNMENT NO TRANSPARENCY FOR PRIVATE PLAYERS, THE SO CALLED CORRUPTION CRUSADE IS ONLY AGAINST GOVERNMENT AND NOT THE ENTIRE SYSTEM ALL NGO’S, OFFICERS OF ORGANIZATIONS HAVING AN ANNUAL INCOME ABOVE A SPECIFIED AMOUNT RECEIVING FUNDS FROM THE GOVERNMENT OR THE PUBLIC. CORRUPTION IS A UNIVERSAL PROBLEM AND NEEDS TO DEALT WITH COMPREHENSIVELY
  • 18. DO WE NEED A SUPER MONSTER OR AN OMBUDSMEN ? YOU BE THE JUDGE !