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Legal Realism

      Don Hubin



  Copyright © 2003 by Donald C. Hubin
Background
• Legal Realism was a distinctly
  American approach to philosophy of
  law.
• It was an attempt to take a hard-
  headed, cold-eyed look at how the legal
  system actually operates.
• It was a reaction to a formalistic account
  of law and “mechanical jurisprudence.”
Mechanical Jurisprudence

• Viewed law as a complex system of set and
  precise rules created by the legislature.
• Viewed the role of judges to be simply
  determining which rules applied to the facts of
  the case.
• Legal Realists saw this as a distorted picture
  of law and of the role of courts in a legal
  system.
Inspiration for Legal Realism
                         • “Nay, whoever hath
                           an absolute authority
                           to interpret any
                           written or spoken
                           laws it is he who is
                           the lawgiver to all
                           intents and purposes
                           and not the person
                           who first wrote or
                           spake them.”
Bishop Benjamin Hoadly
      1676-1761
Early Legal Realists

• “"The prophecies of what
  the courts will do in fact,
  and nothing more
  pretentious, are what I
  mean by law.“
                                Oliver Wendell
                                 Holmes, Jr.
                                   1841 -1935
The Nature of Legal Realism

• Law is not a species of rules.
  – Some deny the reality of legal rules
  – All deny the importance of rules in
    understanding the law as it is actually
    applied.
  – Legal Realism has sometimes been called
    “Rule Skepticism”
• Law is what courts do.
Two Versions of Legal Realism
• Extreme (Unqualified) Legal Realism
  – Denies the existence of any legal rules,
    including:
    • Rules regulating behavior
    • Rules empowering people or defining legal offices
• Moderate (Qualified) Legal Realism
  – Denies the existence of legal rules regulating
    behavior but not the existence of all legal
    rules empowering people or defining legal
    offices.
Extreme Legal Realism

• Criticism:
  – This form if legal realism is incoherent
    because an adequate analysis of a court
    requires reference to the legal rules that
    create the court and define its powers and
    limitations.
     • Trying to define ‘court’ in a de facto manner would
       encounter all the problems Austin had in his
       definition of ‘sovereign’.
Moderate Legal Realism

• Motivation
  – An Ohio Case to Illustrate


• Criticisms
Statutes and Court Behavior:
    A Case Study in the Motivation
           for Legal Realism
• Until recently (2001), Ohio law defined ‘gross income’ for
  purposes of determining child support as follows:
   – “Gross income” means, except as excluded in this
     division, the total of all earned and unearned income from
     all sources during a calendar year, whether or not the
     income is taxable, and includes, but is not limited to,
     income from salaries, wages...spousal support actually
     received from a person not a party to the support
     proceeding for which actual gross income is being
     determined, and all other sources of income; … self-
     generated income; and potential cash flow from any
     source. (R.C. 3113.215(A)(2), emphases added to
     original.)
The Bailey Decision

• [Bailey v. Bailey (September 22, 1992),
  Franklin App. No. 92AP-446, unreported,
  1992 Ohio App. LEXIS 4900]
• Question: “Is spousal support paid from a
  person who is a party to this child support
  action income to the recipient?”
The Bailey Decision


• Statute clearly defines ‘gross income’
  so as to include the amount of spousal
  support received from a party to the
  child support action.
• But the court held otherwise.
The Bailey Decision
•   But, the Bailey Court determined that spousal support paid from one
    party to a child support action to another is not income to the recipient
    for purposes of calculating child support.
       “R.C. 3113.215(A)(2) defines gross income to include spousal support
       actually received from a person not a party to the support proceeding for
       which actual gross income is being determined. Therefore spousal
       support is not income to [when received from a person who is a party to
       the child support action].”
•   The Bailey court went on to “reason” that since the spousal support
    was not income to the recipient in these cases, it had to be counted in
    the income of the parent who paid the spousal support despite the fact
    that the statute later specifically exempts any court ordered payments
    from the definition of ‘gross income’.
The Fallacy of the Bailey Decision


• The fact that the statute specifically includes
  in gross income spousal support paid from a
  former spouse who is not a party to the child
  support action does not entail that gross
  income does not include spousal support paid
  from a former spouse who is a party to the
  action—especially when the statute
  specifically says that this definition “includes
  but is not limited to” the things items
  specified.
The Absurdity of the
          Bailey Decision

• The Bailey decision ignored the realities
  of income and based child support
  levels on a fiction.
  – Example: Pat and Terry
The Bailey Decision and
          Legal Realism

• What was the law in Ohio between
  1992 and 2001 (when Bailey was
  overturned by legislative action)?
  – The Classical Legal Positivist Answer
  – The Legal Realist’s Answer
Classical Legal
           Positivist’s Answer

• The prevailing legal theory early in the 20th
  Century would hold that the law in Ohio at
  that time required that spousal support
  actually received from a party to the child
  support action be counted as part of the
  recipient’s gross income. This is the plain
  meaning of the language in the statute.
Legal Realist’s Answer
• “Get real man! The law isn’t what’s written in a dusty
  old law book. The law is that the courts are doing.
  For this period, the law in Ohio was that spousal
  support paid to a party in a child support action does
  not count as income to recipient and does count as
  income to the payer. Saying otherwise is not being
  realistic.”
   – If you were an attorney for either of the parties in this
     situation, what would—and what should—you advise your
     client is the “law” in Ohio?
   – If you are a party in such a case, what would you want to
     know about the “law” in Ohio?
Moderate Legal Realism

• Criticisms
  – Too Broad: There are predictions of what
    the courts will do and (official) actions of
    courts that are not law.
  – Gives a Distorted Picture of Judicial
    Reasoning
  – Gives a Distorted Picture of the Judge’s
    Role in the Legal System
Too Broad

• This account can’t distinguish between
  legal decisions and procedural rulings—
  even mundane procedural rulings like
  the decision to recess.
  – Note that procedural rulings are decisions
    made in the judge’s official capacity.
Distortion of Judicial Reasoning


• Judicial deliberations (at least at the
  highest level) become deliberations
  about what the judge will decide.
  – “What is legally correct?” means “What will
    I decide?”
Distortion of Judicial Reasoning:
 Statutes as “Sources of Law”
• Statutes are considered mere “sources
  of law” because they, in fact, influence
  judges’ decisions.
  – If the judge’s dreams, love life or
    hemorrhoids influence her/his decision,
    then these things have the same legal
    status as statutes.
Distortion of Judicial Reasoning


• This view does not allow for the concept
  of a decision being made on legally
  irrelevant grounds.
  – Example: Ohio judge who was deciding
    cases by flipping a coin.
Distortion of Judge’s Role

• Legal Realism fails to distinguish
  between finality and infallibility.
  – Example: football v. “scorer’s discretion”

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Legal realism

  • 1. Legal Realism Don Hubin Copyright © 2003 by Donald C. Hubin
  • 2. Background • Legal Realism was a distinctly American approach to philosophy of law. • It was an attempt to take a hard- headed, cold-eyed look at how the legal system actually operates. • It was a reaction to a formalistic account of law and “mechanical jurisprudence.”
  • 3. Mechanical Jurisprudence • Viewed law as a complex system of set and precise rules created by the legislature. • Viewed the role of judges to be simply determining which rules applied to the facts of the case. • Legal Realists saw this as a distorted picture of law and of the role of courts in a legal system.
  • 4. Inspiration for Legal Realism • “Nay, whoever hath an absolute authority to interpret any written or spoken laws it is he who is the lawgiver to all intents and purposes and not the person who first wrote or spake them.” Bishop Benjamin Hoadly 1676-1761
  • 5. Early Legal Realists • “"The prophecies of what the courts will do in fact, and nothing more pretentious, are what I mean by law.“ Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. 1841 -1935
  • 6. The Nature of Legal Realism • Law is not a species of rules. – Some deny the reality of legal rules – All deny the importance of rules in understanding the law as it is actually applied. – Legal Realism has sometimes been called “Rule Skepticism” • Law is what courts do.
  • 7. Two Versions of Legal Realism • Extreme (Unqualified) Legal Realism – Denies the existence of any legal rules, including: • Rules regulating behavior • Rules empowering people or defining legal offices • Moderate (Qualified) Legal Realism – Denies the existence of legal rules regulating behavior but not the existence of all legal rules empowering people or defining legal offices.
  • 8. Extreme Legal Realism • Criticism: – This form if legal realism is incoherent because an adequate analysis of a court requires reference to the legal rules that create the court and define its powers and limitations. • Trying to define ‘court’ in a de facto manner would encounter all the problems Austin had in his definition of ‘sovereign’.
  • 9. Moderate Legal Realism • Motivation – An Ohio Case to Illustrate • Criticisms
  • 10. Statutes and Court Behavior: A Case Study in the Motivation for Legal Realism • Until recently (2001), Ohio law defined ‘gross income’ for purposes of determining child support as follows: – “Gross income” means, except as excluded in this division, the total of all earned and unearned income from all sources during a calendar year, whether or not the income is taxable, and includes, but is not limited to, income from salaries, wages...spousal support actually received from a person not a party to the support proceeding for which actual gross income is being determined, and all other sources of income; … self- generated income; and potential cash flow from any source. (R.C. 3113.215(A)(2), emphases added to original.)
  • 11. The Bailey Decision • [Bailey v. Bailey (September 22, 1992), Franklin App. No. 92AP-446, unreported, 1992 Ohio App. LEXIS 4900] • Question: “Is spousal support paid from a person who is a party to this child support action income to the recipient?”
  • 12. The Bailey Decision • Statute clearly defines ‘gross income’ so as to include the amount of spousal support received from a party to the child support action. • But the court held otherwise.
  • 13. The Bailey Decision • But, the Bailey Court determined that spousal support paid from one party to a child support action to another is not income to the recipient for purposes of calculating child support. “R.C. 3113.215(A)(2) defines gross income to include spousal support actually received from a person not a party to the support proceeding for which actual gross income is being determined. Therefore spousal support is not income to [when received from a person who is a party to the child support action].” • The Bailey court went on to “reason” that since the spousal support was not income to the recipient in these cases, it had to be counted in the income of the parent who paid the spousal support despite the fact that the statute later specifically exempts any court ordered payments from the definition of ‘gross income’.
  • 14. The Fallacy of the Bailey Decision • The fact that the statute specifically includes in gross income spousal support paid from a former spouse who is not a party to the child support action does not entail that gross income does not include spousal support paid from a former spouse who is a party to the action—especially when the statute specifically says that this definition “includes but is not limited to” the things items specified.
  • 15. The Absurdity of the Bailey Decision • The Bailey decision ignored the realities of income and based child support levels on a fiction. – Example: Pat and Terry
  • 16. The Bailey Decision and Legal Realism • What was the law in Ohio between 1992 and 2001 (when Bailey was overturned by legislative action)? – The Classical Legal Positivist Answer – The Legal Realist’s Answer
  • 17. Classical Legal Positivist’s Answer • The prevailing legal theory early in the 20th Century would hold that the law in Ohio at that time required that spousal support actually received from a party to the child support action be counted as part of the recipient’s gross income. This is the plain meaning of the language in the statute.
  • 18. Legal Realist’s Answer • “Get real man! The law isn’t what’s written in a dusty old law book. The law is that the courts are doing. For this period, the law in Ohio was that spousal support paid to a party in a child support action does not count as income to recipient and does count as income to the payer. Saying otherwise is not being realistic.” – If you were an attorney for either of the parties in this situation, what would—and what should—you advise your client is the “law” in Ohio? – If you are a party in such a case, what would you want to know about the “law” in Ohio?
  • 19. Moderate Legal Realism • Criticisms – Too Broad: There are predictions of what the courts will do and (official) actions of courts that are not law. – Gives a Distorted Picture of Judicial Reasoning – Gives a Distorted Picture of the Judge’s Role in the Legal System
  • 20. Too Broad • This account can’t distinguish between legal decisions and procedural rulings— even mundane procedural rulings like the decision to recess. – Note that procedural rulings are decisions made in the judge’s official capacity.
  • 21. Distortion of Judicial Reasoning • Judicial deliberations (at least at the highest level) become deliberations about what the judge will decide. – “What is legally correct?” means “What will I decide?”
  • 22. Distortion of Judicial Reasoning: Statutes as “Sources of Law” • Statutes are considered mere “sources of law” because they, in fact, influence judges’ decisions. – If the judge’s dreams, love life or hemorrhoids influence her/his decision, then these things have the same legal status as statutes.
  • 23. Distortion of Judicial Reasoning • This view does not allow for the concept of a decision being made on legally irrelevant grounds. – Example: Ohio judge who was deciding cases by flipping a coin.
  • 24. Distortion of Judge’s Role • Legal Realism fails to distinguish between finality and infallibility. – Example: football v. “scorer’s discretion”