The document discusses a recent US/Afghan military operation against al-Qaeda training camps in southern Afghanistan. It provides the following key details: - The operation targeted what US commanders called "probably the largest" al-Qaeda training camp found in the 14-year war, spanning 30 square miles in Kandahar province. - Over 160 al-Qaeda fighters were reported killed in a multi-day operation involving 200 US special operations forces and 63 airstrikes. - The existence of the large training camps in a remote part of southern Afghanistan raises questions about US effectiveness in dismantling al-Qaeda, though commanders note the enemy is evolving.

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7. One may question does Al Qaeda members have social security numbers
that identify them
that how can it be claimed that 60 Al Qaeda members were killed which
as per CIA did not number more than 15 or 20 in 2011 ?
what happened to US tax payers money to built exorbitant Afghan
Border Police Battalion in Shorawak

8. What sophisticated US surveillance systems are doing in Afghanistan ?
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2015/10/al-qaedas-kandahar-
training-camp-probably-the-largest-in-afghan-
war.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign
=Feed%3A+LongWarJournalSiteWide+%28The+Long+War+Journal+
%28Site-Wide%29%29
now how does al qaeda moves from NWA to Shorawak-Pearls of
Unadulterated nonsense
One may question does Al Qaeda members have social security
numbers that identify them
that how can it be claimed that 60 Al Qaeda members were killed which
as per CIA did not number more than 15 or 20 in 2011 ?
what happened to US tax payers money to built exorbitant Afghan
Border Police Battalion in Shorawak
What sophisticated US surveilliance systems are doing in Afghanistan ?

9. Major Agha H Amin (Retired)
amazon.com/author/agha_amin
Long War Journal a US site claims
The author visiting Shorawak
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2015/10/al-qaedas-kandahar-
training-camp-probably-the-largest-in-afghan-
war.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign
=Feed%3A+LongWarJournalSiteWide+%28The+Long+War+Journal+
%28Site-Wide%29%29
"Since the beginning of the year, Pakistani authorities have carried
out multiple raids against [AQIS]. However, accordingto
Pakistani officials, AQIS has relocated a significant portion of its
operations into Helmand. The move by AQIS was made in
anticipation of the Pakistani military’s Operation Zarb-e-Azb,an
offensive that began in June 2014. The offensive has targeted al
Qaeda and affiliated jihadist groups, including several from

10. Central Asia. Some of these same organizations have helped fuel
the Taliban’s advances in Afghanistan this year."
first mistakeand a major one
There is no AL QAEDA IN FATA.
THE PAKISTANIOPERATION IS AGAINST TTP A PUNY OUTFIT
OF PAKISTANIINSURGENTS WHO ARE FIFGTING AGAINST
PAKISTANISTATE IN REVENGE FOR UNILLATERAL
UNPROVOKED PAKISTANIS ATTACKON FATA AS PART OF
MUSHARRAFDECEPTION PLAN TO DECEIVE AMERICANS.
HAQQANI GROUP A PAKISTANISTATE PROXY HAS ALREADY
BEEN SHIFTED OUT OF FATA.
It is very interesting that Bill Roggio and his site makes all kind of
spicy claims while we in Af Pak dont see these on ground .

11. I was in Shorawak in October 2015 in connection with a Narcotics
consultancy survey and did not see any such gigantic as long war
journal claims .
Yes there were camps connectedwith Afghan Taliban Proxiesof
Pakistani state but no such Al Qaeda camp as Long War Journal
claims.
My question is that has Roggio or Thomas Joscelyn described as
Senior Fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies and the
Senior Editor for The Long War Journal. ever travelled from NWA
(North Waziristan Agency) to Shorawak , a distance of 900 to 1000 km
over very high mountain ranges and innumerable Pakistani and Afghan
checkposts and military deployments and the omnipotent US
hitech presence in Afghanistan ?I dont think they have .For if they had
done they would have thought twice about writing the absolute
nonsense that they are writing.
There is much exaggeration in what is going on in Af Pak.
Pakistanis , Americans and above all Bill Roggio and Long War
Journal are exaggerating the threat in that area for obvious reasons.

12. Pakistanis to get more US aid or leverage or political
mileage.Americans for same reasons and Bill Roggio and Long War
Journal to make their site spicy and to attract readers and to sell .
Two small examples here :--
In the operation against Baitullah Mehsud the most impregnable
TTP leader Pakistan Armys 14 Division just suffered 4 killed
casualties in 2007-8.
My own regiment 11 Cavalry (FF) served in Waziristan , Khyber
and Tirah Agencies a citadel of Al Qaeda as per Long War Journal
and suffered Nil CASUALTIES.
AND THIS AL QAEDA PREVIOUSLY IN FATA
EXAGGERATED BY LONG WAR JOURNAL AN ORGAN
OF PROJECT OF FOUNDATION OF DEMOCRACISE COULD
KILL A PUNY NUMBER OF US SOLDIERS IN AFGHAN
PROVINCES ADJACENT TO FATA . JUST SEE HOW MANY

13. US SOLDIERS WERE KILLED IN KHOST PAKTIKA AND
PAKTIA AS COMPARED TO HELMAND FROM 2001 TO 2015
ON I CASUALTIES.ORG !
QUESTION IS WHY THESE EXAGGERATED CLAIMS.
it is possible that there is a drone lobby link here ? To float a new drone
contract in the USA so that these mysterious and fictitious Al Qaeda can
be attacked in Shorawak and huge kickbacks and profits made and US
public further terrified that there is a great monster in SHORAWAK
which I could not find in my 15 days stay in Shorawak !
ROGGIOS SITE HAS DONORS AND IS NOT THERE FOR
CHARITY OR PHILANTHROPY.

14. THERE IS A HUGE LOBBY IN THE US THAT WANTS TO
EXAGGERATE THE THREATS SO THAT THE US PUBLIC CAN
BE MADE MORE SERVILE AND SUBJECTED TO MORE SEVERE
LAWS .
AND SO THAT THE HUGE DEFENSE INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX
LINKED TO DEGFENSE CONTRACTS CAN SELL THEIR
HARDWARE.
SAME IS CASE IN PAKISTAN WHEREPAKISTAN ARMY IS
EXAGGERATING ALL KINDS OF THREATS SO THAT IT CAN
DOMINATE THE STATE ALREADY HEAVILY CRUSHED BY ITS
IRON HEEL.
THE HARD FACT IS THAT 90 % OF ALL INSURGENTS ARE
SUPPORTED BY PAKISTANI STATE IN AF PAK JUST LIKE 90 %
OF SYRIAN INSURGENTS ARE PROXIES OF USA, SAUDI ARABI
, TURKEY OR JORDAN.
TAIL PIECE

15. IN EARLY OCTOBER A PAKISTANI JOURNALIST DISCIPLE OF
BILL ROGGIO TOOK SAME TALIBAN FROM NWA TO KUNDUZ
AND I HAD TO WRITE TO PAKISTANS PREMIER NEWSPAPER
DAWN ABOUT IT . SO BILL ROGGIOS ARE EVERYWHERE
INCLUDING PAKISTAN !
‘Probably the largest’ al-Qaeda training camp
ever destroyed in Afghanistan
Print Article Comments 163
By Dan Lamothe October 30

16. A U.S. Air Force F-16 fighter jet takes off from Bagram Air Field,
Afghanistan, on July 28, 2015. the 455th Air Expeditionary Wing at
Bagram was involved in a massive operation against al-Qaeda training
camps this month. (Photo by Tech. Sgt. Joseph Swafford/ Air Force)
KABUL, Afghanistan — A multi-day operation in southern Afghanistan
this month that involved 200 Special Operations forces and scores of
American airstrikes targeted what was “probably the largest” al-Qaeda
training camp found in the 14-year Afghan war, the senior U.S.
commander in Afghanistan said on Friday.
Army Gen. John F. Campbell, the four-star officer in charge of the U.S.
war effort, said the camp was used by AQIS, an acronym for al-Qaeda in
the Indian Subcontinent. The group’s formation was announced last year
by al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri, and is believed to be based in
Pakistan and focused on India, Pakistan and other nations in southern
Asia.
[How this elite Air Force rescue squadron’s mission has evolved in
Afghanistan]
The operation, announced by the U.S. military on Oct. 11, hit one
training area that sprawled over 30 square miles and another small one
that was about one square mile, U.S. military officials said. U.S. and
Afghan troops were involved in the ground assault, with 63 airstrikes

17. launched to cover them. Some 160 al-Qaeda fighters were reported
killed.
The training camps were found in Kandahar province’s Shorabak
district, a sparsely populated area along Afghanistan’s southern border
with Pakistan, and the facilities are believed to have been in existence
for up to a year.
That in itself has raised questions about the effectiveness of the U.S.
military to find and strike the militants 14 years after the Sept. 11, 2001,
attacks prompted the United States to topple the Taliban and begin
hunting al-Qaeda. U.S. officials have long said that only the bare
remnants of al-Qaeda remained in Afghanistan, and that they were
concentrated in a few valleys in the eastern part of the country.
Army Gen. John Campbell is shown here in Washington in February
2015, as he prepares to testify before the Senate Armed Services
Committee. (Photo by Win McNamee/Getty Images)
“It’s a place where you would probably think you wouldn’t have AQ. I
would agree with that,” Campbell said of the Kandahar operation, using
an acronym for al-Qaeda. “This was really AQIS, and probably the
largest training camp-type facility that we have seen in 14 years of war.”
Campbell, speaking in an interview in his office, said the existence of
the camps in Kandahar province were discovered after a raid this
summer on another al-Qaeda facility in the Barmal district of eastern

18. Afghanistan’s Paktika province. That rugged, mountainous district
borders North Waziristan, in one of Pakistan’s tribal areas with a long
history of both al-Qaeda and Taliban operations.
[At Bagram Airfield, a mass grave hints at the brutality of another
war]
“We looked at it for a while to make sure we reduced the risk to the
forces that go in on a target like that,” Campbell said of the operation
this month. “It was a very complex target set over several days.”
Campbell said it was initially surprising to find the camps in the south,
“but I think as we step back now and really analyze it, it shouldn’t.” The
enemy continues to evolve, he said, especially as Pakistan launches
operations on its side of the border to root out insurgent fighters and the
Islamic State competes with al-Qaeda for global influence.
“What I think you have to do is challenge your assumptions here,” the
general said. “Things change, and what was good here in 2010 or 2011
may not necessarily be good today as far as the enemy.”
The training camps were hit just days before President Obama
announced Oct. 15 that he will be keeping 9,800 troops in Afghanistan
through most of 2016 and 5,500 into 2017, rather than reducing the force
to about 1,000 service members by the end of 2016, as he had
announced eatlier. He did so after a months-long review and a bloody
year in which insurgents have successfully, albeit temporarily, taken

19. control of cities like Kunduz in the north and Musa Qala in Helmand
province.
[Meet the guns protecting U.S. basesfrom rocket attacks in
Afghanistan]
The Islamic State militant group that has terrorized parts of Iraq and
Syria also has sprung up in Afghanistan, recruiting in several parts of the
country and launching operations in Nangarhar province in the
southeast. It also has fought the Taliban, who exert control in the same
area.
AQIS began migrating from North Waziristan to southern Afghanistan
last year with other al-Qaeda-linked groups after Pakistan launched a
military offensive in the region, said Michael Kugelman, a senior
associate for South Asia at the Woodrow Wilson Center in Washington.
Timing was everything, he added: It would have been helpful to the
governments in Kabul and Washington if Pakistan had done so a few
years earlier, when the United States had more than 100,000 troops in
Afghanistan.
“Instead, you’ve had all these AQIS and other al-Qaeda fighters and
their allies flowing into a region of Afghanistan without a foreign
combat presence, but with a strong Taliban presence, which in many
cases exerts de facto control,” Kugelman said.

20. Kugelman warned against assuming that all of the militants at the camps
targeted were “uniquely AQIS fighters.” Al-Qaeda has a deep bench of
militant allies, he said, including fighters who are in the Afghan and
Pakistani Taliban.
Campbell did not detail the composition of the ground force involved in
the operation in Kandahar province, but credited Afghan Special
Operations troops with being involved in a series of raids that produced
key intelligence about insurgent groups.
[An Army Chinook crew’s mission in Afghanistan, in pictures and
video]
The Afghan government also established this summer an American-style
intelligence “fusion cell” that analyzes and compares information
collected by Kabul’s defense and interior ministries and its security
forces.
Asked about the operation last week, the senior officer in charge of Air
Force aviation in Afghanistan, Brig. Gen. David Julazadeh, said that the
455th Expeditionary Air Wing that he commands from Bagram Airfield
north of Kabul was “intimately involved” in the planning of the
operation in Kandahar province. His wing has F-16 fighter jets at
Bagram, along with armed MQ-1 Predator and MQ-9 Reaper drones
flying from Jalalabad Airfield and Kandahar Airfield, respectively.
“It was pretty awesome,” Julazadeh said. “I’ll just leave it at that. It was
highly coordinated between us and the Special Operations folks.”

21. Dan Lamothe covers national security for The Washington Post and
anchors its military blog, Checkpoint.
Agha Amin
10:41 AM GMT+0500
it is very interesting how a case is built in the US about a threat that
actually does not exist ? A US generals testimony , followed by a
washington post article and a blog post in Long war Journal.Now there
is an idea here .POWERFUL INTERESTS ARE AT WORK .and finally
a new secret drone contract . And who is fleeced .The US tax payer . I
request US readers .Please be sceptical about claims of these people
exaggerating threats .Lets face it .There are taliban in Shorawak who are
pakistani state proxies .But please dont be misled by words like AL
QAEDAS BIGGEST CAMP !
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Agha Amin
10:17 AM GMT+0500
maps and visuals to support my assessment are on link below http://csi-
ops.blogspot.com.tr/2015/10/now-how-doe...

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Agha Amin
10:16 AM GMT+0500
THE HARD FACT IS THAT 90 % OF ALL INSURGENTS ARE
SUPPORTED BY PAKISTANI STATE IN AF PAK JUST LIKE 90 %
OF SYRIAN INSURGENTS ARE PROXIES OF USA, SAUDI ARABI
, TURKEY OR JORDAN.
TAIL PIECE
IN EARLY OCTOBER A PAKISTANI JOURNALIST DISCIPLE OF
BILL ROGGIO TOOK SAME TALIBAN FROM NWA TO KUNDUZ
AND I HAD TO WRITE TO PAKISTANS PREMIER NEWSPAPER
DAWN ABOUT IT . SO washington post type journalists ARE
EVERYWHERE INCLUDING PAKISTAN !
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23. Agha Amin
10:16 AM GMT+0500
QUESTION IS WHY THESE EXAGGERATED CLAIMS.
THERE IS A HUGE LOBBY IN THE US THAT WANTS TO
EXAGGERATE THE THREATS SO THAT THE US PUBLIC CAN
BE MADE MORE SERVILE AND SUBJECTED TO MORE SEVERE
LAWS .
AND SO THAT THE HUGE DEFENSE INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX
LINKED TO DEGFENSE CONTRACTS CAN SELL THEIR
HARDWARE.
SAME IS CASE IN PAKISTAN WHERE PAKISTAN ARMY IS
EXAGGERATING ALL KINDS OF THREATS SO THAT IT CAN
DOMINATE THE STATE ALREADY HEAVILY CRUSHED BY ITS
IRON HEEL.
LikeReportReplyShare

24. Agha Amin
10:15 AM GMT+0500
AND THIS AL QAEDA PREVIOUSLY IN FATA EXAGGERATED
BY LONG WAR JOURNAL AN ORGAN OF PROJECT OF
FOUNDATION OF DEMOCRACISE COULD KILL A PUNY
NUMBER OF US SOLDIERS IN AFGHAN PROVINCES
ADJACENT TO FATA . JUST SEE HOW MANY US SOLDIERS
WERE KILLED IN KHOST PAKTIKA AND PAKTIA AS
COMPARED TO HELMAND FROM 2001 TO 2015 ON I
CASUALTIES.ORG !
LikeReportReplyShare
Agha Amin
10:15 AM GMT+0500
There is much exaggeration in what is going on in Af Pak.

25. Pakistanis , Americans and above all Bill Roggio and Long War Journal
are exaggerating the threat in that area for obvious reasons.
Pakistanis to get more US aid or leverage or political mileage.Americans
for same reasons and Bill Roggio and Long War Journal to make their
site spicy and to attract readers and to sell .
Two small examples here :--
In the operation against Baitullah Mehsud the most impregnable TTP
leader Pakistan Armys 14 Division just suffered 4 killed casualties in
2007-8.
My own regiment 11 Cavalry (FF) served in Waziristan , Khyber and
Tirah Agencies a citadel of Al Qaeda as per Long War Journal and
suffered Nil CASUALTIES.
LikeReportReplyShare

26. Agha Amin
10:14 AM GMT+0500
It is very interesting that Washington Post makes all kind of spicy claims
while we in Af Pak dont see these on ground .
I was in Shorawak in October 2015 in connection with a Narcotics
consultancy survey and did not see any such gigantic as claimed in this
article
Yes there were camps connected with Afghan Taliban Proxies of
Pakistani state but no such Al Qaeda camp as Long War Journal claims.
My question is that has Roggio or Thomas Joscelyn described as Senior
Fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies and the Senior
Editor for The Long War Journal. ever travelled from NWA (North
Waziristan Agency) to Shorawak , a distance of 900 to 1000 km over
very high mountain ranges and innumerable Pakistani and Afghan
checkposts and military deployments and the omnipotent US hitech
presence in Afghanistan ?I dont think they have .For if they had done

27. they would have thought twice about writing the absolute nonsense that
they are writing.
LikeReportReplyShare
Agha Amin
10:13 AM GMT+0500
first mistake and a major one
There is no AL QAEDA IN FATA.
THE PAKISTANI OPERATION IS AGAINST TTP A PUNY OUTFIT
OF PAKISTANI INSURGENTS WHO ARE FIFGTING AGAINST
PAKISTANI STATE IN REVENGE FOR UNILLATERAL
UNPROVOKED PAKISTANIS ATTACK ON FATA AS PART OF
MUSHARRAF DECEPTION PLAN TO DECEIVE AMERICANS.

28. HAQQANI GROUP A PAKISTANI STATE PROXY HAS ALREADY
BEEN SHIFTED OUT OF FATA
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Agha Amin
10:13 AM GMT+0500
this is a highly exaggerated and non factual piece of work
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