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Holding and promoting beliefs:A developmental Perspective OnDevelopment, Beliefs, Skills, and Post-metaphysics Tom Murray — Integral Education Seminar, Aug. 2010
Belief: what, how, why (ethics)? Belief Knowledge Truth Justification (un)Certainty Decision Making & Leadership Communication & Collaboration Wilber-IV: post-metaphysics, methodological pluralism, zones, perspectives…from “What is true?” to “How do we know?”
Instinctive/Sensate Magical Warrior (& Subjugate)/ Mythic Traditionalist/Believer Rationalist/Modernist Pluralistic/Sensitive Integral 3 ____ Second Tier: ____  … … (figure: see www.spiraldynamics.net)
Activity: Reminding ourselves of Developmental “Meme” levels Purple Magical Create a 30 second play: “Deciding where to go out to dinner” Red Warrior/Mythic Blue Traditionalist/Believer Rationalist/Modernist Orange Pluralistic/Sensitive Green 4
5 EDUCATION (and Environmentalism) as conveying/supporting important knowledge what is an integral or second tier approach to holding & promoting beliefs?  In teaching, advocating beliefs when and how do we include (as we “transcend”) magical, mythical, conventional, modern ways of thinking (and believing/knowing)?  see, FormelessMountain.com
Map of the talk – Useful distinctions Development of belief-holding (epistemics): Mythic/magical (metaphysical/mystical) Rational & Conventional Pluralist/Green Integral; Second Tier; Post-metaphysical Promoting knowledge: Belief vs. Skills  What are second tier skills? The “post-metaphysical” perspective Beliefs in:   Concepts (what exists) vs.  Statements (what is True or Good) Indeterminacy and Positive vs. Negative Epistemic Capability
Some New Age vs. Integral Beliefs 7
What is real (exists)? (concepts; metaphysics) vs. What is true (or good)? (propositions; validity claims)
Magical thinking – imagination as reality Nonliving things have an animate life force; intentions, can hurt & bless Powerful beings (gods, spirits…) can punish or reward; we are vulnerable   I have the psychic power to effect the world; bless or curse; pray, manifest (omnipotency)  I hear inner messages; I use special objects and rituals to access divinations Impulses and emotions and power dynamics determine my actions (not abstract ideas or plans) All is one; boundary-less; we are all connected Wishful thinking (the unwanted is unreal) – Very in touch with imagination; subtle phenomena – 9
Magical/mythical Criteria for what is true (and good) Authority figures and charismatics Magical or sacred books and objects Social norms, habit, they way it has been Peer identification; what everyone does/says My own experience 10
To Blue, Orange… ,[object Object]
Orange meme: systematic, possibilities/probabilities, logic; rigor, efficiency & perfection drives
Differentiating/discriminating:
Feelings vs. thoughts
Interiors vs. exteriors (self reflection)
True / Good / Beautiful
Self vs. group/culture
Belief vs. truth
Past/Future
Statement validity:
observation, repeatability, logic
Scientific method11
Ideas as reality Magical thinking – imagination as reality Mythical thinking – stories as reality Conventional thinking – norms as reality Modern thinking – concepts/models  as reality (Postmodern? – mirror as reality?)
Integral/Second Tier thinking?
Activity #2:reflections on things said to Exist Pick something you have tried unsuccessfully to explain to a colleague or friend Integral  Holon (Collective) consciousness LL, UR…quadrants Green, orange… meme The True, Good, the Beautiful.. Gross, Subtle, Causalstates Subtle energies and chakras   Spirit; Authentic Self Ground of Being; The non-dual Involution; Eros & Agape Universe is evolving through us 14 ,[object Object]
In what way?
How sure are you?
How would I explain/argue for (against) it?
Why is it important for others to believe?,[object Object]
Portability of integral ideas 16 THEM Beliefs, values?? US (integralists) beliefs, knowledge, values… Skills??
A heuristic spectrumof developmental narratives 17 WHAT one believes HOW one believes/thinks What on does/can DO Skills &Capacities Beliefs &World Views (Virtues, Habits) (Values, Identity,)
“Skill” =  Higher order skills, capacities, capabilities, "skillful means"  Cognitive, social/ethical/emotional skills The beliefs in focus are meaning-generative:cultural, metaphysical, spiritual, philosophical…  (not concrete facts) Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  August 2010 18
E.G. belief & world-view basedNarratives of human development Cohen & Hamilton’s Evolutionary Enlightenment Kosmos Journal McIntosh’s Integral Consciousness Beck & Cohen’s Spiral Dynamics Wilber? AQAL?... 19
Memes as Beliefs vs. Skills Is “Mean Green Meme”about belief or skill? 20
Some Problems with Development as a Worldview or Belief System  Beliefs: perspectival, culturally bound, fallible  Attached to identity and support in/out group Beliefs can “clash” in struggles of power and identity; skills are “cognitive tools”  Beliefs-systems can be ideologies/dogmas (manipulation/misconception/misuse) Charismatic propaganda, peer pressure (inculcation/adoption vs. teaching/learning) Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  August 2010 21
The value of belief systems Motivation, intention, vision! …when and why to USE skills/capacities Power of story, myth, narrative  Shared world-view  Synergetic action, solidarity, meaning-generation Stable base for new levels of cultural evolution Need shared beliefs (community) to create skills(?)  22
Wisdom Skillsfor Second Tier enaction Egoawareness (self/ego/will and being/spirit/essence; "I" dimension) Relationalawareness (emotional/social/ethical/interpersonal intelligence; "We" dimension) Constructawareness(cognitive; "It" dimension) Systemsawareness ("Its" dimension; context, cognitive capacity RE dynamic systems and networks of relationships) 23
Integral & post-metaphysical injunctions>> Toward Construct Awareness << Don’t confuse map with territory Avoid the Myth of the Given Beliefs are perspectives: “Things are getting better” “Things are getting worse” “Things are always perfect” 24 } Belief …. Skill
What is Post-metaphysics? ,[object Object]

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Holding and Promoting Beliefs: A Develpmental View.

  • 1. Holding and promoting beliefs:A developmental Perspective OnDevelopment, Beliefs, Skills, and Post-metaphysics Tom Murray — Integral Education Seminar, Aug. 2010
  • 2. Belief: what, how, why (ethics)? Belief Knowledge Truth Justification (un)Certainty Decision Making & Leadership Communication & Collaboration Wilber-IV: post-metaphysics, methodological pluralism, zones, perspectives…from “What is true?” to “How do we know?”
  • 3. Instinctive/Sensate Magical Warrior (& Subjugate)/ Mythic Traditionalist/Believer Rationalist/Modernist Pluralistic/Sensitive Integral 3 ____ Second Tier: ____ … … (figure: see www.spiraldynamics.net)
  • 4. Activity: Reminding ourselves of Developmental “Meme” levels Purple Magical Create a 30 second play: “Deciding where to go out to dinner” Red Warrior/Mythic Blue Traditionalist/Believer Rationalist/Modernist Orange Pluralistic/Sensitive Green 4
  • 5. 5 EDUCATION (and Environmentalism) as conveying/supporting important knowledge what is an integral or second tier approach to holding & promoting beliefs? In teaching, advocating beliefs when and how do we include (as we “transcend”) magical, mythical, conventional, modern ways of thinking (and believing/knowing)? see, FormelessMountain.com
  • 6. Map of the talk – Useful distinctions Development of belief-holding (epistemics): Mythic/magical (metaphysical/mystical) Rational & Conventional Pluralist/Green Integral; Second Tier; Post-metaphysical Promoting knowledge: Belief vs. Skills What are second tier skills? The “post-metaphysical” perspective Beliefs in: Concepts (what exists) vs. Statements (what is True or Good) Indeterminacy and Positive vs. Negative Epistemic Capability
  • 7. Some New Age vs. Integral Beliefs 7
  • 8. What is real (exists)? (concepts; metaphysics) vs. What is true (or good)? (propositions; validity claims)
  • 9. Magical thinking – imagination as reality Nonliving things have an animate life force; intentions, can hurt & bless Powerful beings (gods, spirits…) can punish or reward; we are vulnerable I have the psychic power to effect the world; bless or curse; pray, manifest (omnipotency) I hear inner messages; I use special objects and rituals to access divinations Impulses and emotions and power dynamics determine my actions (not abstract ideas or plans) All is one; boundary-less; we are all connected Wishful thinking (the unwanted is unreal) – Very in touch with imagination; subtle phenomena – 9
  • 10. Magical/mythical Criteria for what is true (and good) Authority figures and charismatics Magical or sacred books and objects Social norms, habit, they way it has been Peer identification; what everyone does/says My own experience 10
  • 11.
  • 12. Orange meme: systematic, possibilities/probabilities, logic; rigor, efficiency & perfection drives
  • 15. Interiors vs. exteriors (self reflection)
  • 16. True / Good / Beautiful
  • 23. Ideas as reality Magical thinking – imagination as reality Mythical thinking – stories as reality Conventional thinking – norms as reality Modern thinking – concepts/models as reality (Postmodern? – mirror as reality?)
  • 25.
  • 28. How would I explain/argue for (against) it?
  • 29.
  • 30. Portability of integral ideas 16 THEM Beliefs, values?? US (integralists) beliefs, knowledge, values… Skills??
  • 31. A heuristic spectrumof developmental narratives 17 WHAT one believes HOW one believes/thinks What on does/can DO Skills &Capacities Beliefs &World Views (Virtues, Habits) (Values, Identity,)
  • 32. “Skill” = Higher order skills, capacities, capabilities, "skillful means" Cognitive, social/ethical/emotional skills The beliefs in focus are meaning-generative:cultural, metaphysical, spiritual, philosophical… (not concrete facts) Tom Murray | www.perspegrity.com | August 2010 18
  • 33. E.G. belief & world-view basedNarratives of human development Cohen & Hamilton’s Evolutionary Enlightenment Kosmos Journal McIntosh’s Integral Consciousness Beck & Cohen’s Spiral Dynamics Wilber? AQAL?... 19
  • 34. Memes as Beliefs vs. Skills Is “Mean Green Meme”about belief or skill? 20
  • 35. Some Problems with Development as a Worldview or Belief System Beliefs: perspectival, culturally bound, fallible Attached to identity and support in/out group Beliefs can “clash” in struggles of power and identity; skills are “cognitive tools” Beliefs-systems can be ideologies/dogmas (manipulation/misconception/misuse) Charismatic propaganda, peer pressure (inculcation/adoption vs. teaching/learning) Tom Murray | www.perspegrity.com | August 2010 21
  • 36. The value of belief systems Motivation, intention, vision! …when and why to USE skills/capacities Power of story, myth, narrative Shared world-view  Synergetic action, solidarity, meaning-generation Stable base for new levels of cultural evolution Need shared beliefs (community) to create skills(?) 22
  • 37. Wisdom Skillsfor Second Tier enaction Egoawareness (self/ego/will and being/spirit/essence; "I" dimension) Relationalawareness (emotional/social/ethical/interpersonal intelligence; "We" dimension) Constructawareness(cognitive; "It" dimension) Systemsawareness ("Its" dimension; context, cognitive capacity RE dynamic systems and networks of relationships) 23
  • 38. Integral & post-metaphysical injunctions>> Toward Construct Awareness << Don’t confuse map with territory Avoid the Myth of the Given Beliefs are perspectives: “Things are getting better” “Things are getting worse” “Things are always perfect” 24 } Belief …. Skill
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  • 40. No view from nowhere (privileged perspective), beyond myth of the given; map is not territory;
  • 41. Perspectival: all truths/experiences come from a perspective and are partial/fallible
  • 42. There are no fixed eternal forms, structures, or archetypes, because everything is evolving
  • 43. Phenomena are enacted/co-constructed (makes no sense to say things exists(ed) unless (until) perceived)(There is no ideal, transcendental, essential, or primordial in the metaphysical sense) 25
  • 44. Integral Post-metaphysics Kosmic address: altitude + perspective (of S,O) Who x How x What Who: adequatio (developmental level(s) of perceiver) How: method / tool; relationship of S,O; zone What: quadrant (I,we,it,its) 26 the dog, Santa Claus, √-1, Emptiness, ecosystem,… - where/how do the referents to these signifiers exists? - “ecosystems exist only in a worldspace of turquoise or higher”
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  • 46. 2. Experience —Beyond concepts/words. (I/who)
  • 47. 2.5 Conceptualize, Infer, & Communicate — A “truth” from the experience & everything else you know
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  • 50. What is the knowledge for and what level of certainty is needed/called for?
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  • 52. “Epistemic Drives”(in beliefs, ideas, knowledge) Concreteness/reification (of abstractions) Seeing connections, patterns (over-) Generalize & abstract Attribute sharp boundaries to concepts (ignore the grey areas) Foundationalism, essentialism, universality Unity/oneness, totality/wholeness, integration …proto-fascism, grandiosity, hegemony, elitism…? 29
  • 53. Belief and Emotion, Ethics (1) (embodiment, enaction) Certainty / importance / emotional intensity Fear, risk, urgency, ecstasy… (states) Risk of “misplaced concreteness” Magnification of epistemic (and other) drives Regression to Black & white (us/them; either/or) Reliance on authority, peers & norms 30
  • 54. Pause and reflect… Belief and Emotion (and Will)… Positive and Negative capability…
  • 55. Belief and Emotion, Ethics (2) (embodiment, enaction) Habermas (on the validity of statements): Knowledge and truth are strongly related to ethics – fairness, equality, power, and authenticity (and emotion)
  • 56. Statements:A 4th Validity Type? True (science) Good/Just (morality) Beautiful (aesthetics) & Meaning-generative (e.g. reincarnation) 33
  • 57. Underview– Useful distinctions Development of belief-holding (integrating all levels): Mythic/magical (metaphysical/mystical) Rational & Conventional Pluralist/Green Post-metaphysical; Integral; Second Tier Promoting knowledge: Belief vs. Skills What are second tier skills? The “post-metaphysical” perspective Beliefs in: Concepts (what exists) – fuzziness; perspectival Statements (what is True or Good) – validity claims; Meaningfulness Models & Theories – indeterminacy analysis ‘wrappers’ Indeterminacy and Positive vs. Negative Epistemic Capability Implications of embodied thought for ethical decisions
  • 58. Thanks!… tommurray.us@gmail.com | www.tommurray.us
  • 59. A few extra slides…
  • 60. Focusing in on construct awareness David Bohm: "underneath [humanity's dilemmas] there's something we don't understand about how thought works" and that what is needed is a "very deep [and] very subtle" awareness of thought itself. Albert Einstein: "the significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them.” Deeper understanding mind, thought, language, knowledge, belief…=> the (epistemic or) “post-metaphysical turn” 37
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Editor's Notes

  1. As parts within us, not as labels
  2. As parts within us, not as labelsShow pos and negative3 minutes prep; 30 sec play; plus 30 sec word salad
  3. Philsophers!High level talk; firehose; integral theory; integral community; philosophyWilber 5: methodological pluralism and 8 zones;
  4. We distinguish oursleves form prior memes…How important are some of these beliefs to you or others?How do we articulate what’s unsettling (or unjustified) about some beliefs? LATER: talk about mythical, magical and metaphysical thinkiing…its ROLE
  5. Usefult to distinguish two types of questions
  6. Reintegrating the subtle?
  7. Looking at epstemology; ways of thinking, capacities; not values/needs.
  8. POMO: Focus on what is wrong
  9. Beliefs define a communityWhat do we have to offer the wider world? Models? Skils/capacities? Methods; wayts; princilples?(offer the second tier world?)
  10. Many ways we talk about it; all the models wilber mentions- stage based models…STRAW man spectrum!- not critique of existing narratives/projects; an exploration into where next
  11. Ref Kurt Fischer Skill Theory…
  12. puts humans at the forefront of the evolution of consciousness - deeply experience ..access to the motivation (ecstatic impulse) to break free of our egoic and narcissistic tendencies and align with a moral and spiritual sense of purpose and service - more than a surface belief system for its adherents—it is a lived experience that deeply implicates self identity
  13. So far, just argued for the different narratives; next argue for problems with beliefs and need for more skills-based; moving along that spectrum- If I had to choose between a Turquise belief system and skills set… “Mean Green Meme” is actually a cultural identity grouping that does not reflect green skill development Think of intelligent/evolved integral non-believers; are hey second tier?
  14. Wiping up the crowd; extreem states; - partial, always wrong-
  15. reality is not out there waiting to be seen; not simply as it appears
  16. Zone == how x what?Who, how, what enact each other (conascent)- Seean EH:Object’s [altitude &amp; quadrivium] XSubject’s [&gt;= devel level &amp; quadrant]
  17. OK for Wilber! That certainty and precision creates a force; but WE don’t have to copy it…How can we bring both of these into play?- everybody is partially RIGHT; vs Everybody is (partly) wrong
  18. We do these things with a vengeance! We are wired to do this..help us accurately understand the world but can create biases and errors- we also have the opposite drives… (just like we have aggression and nurturance drives in us)See it in yourself. See it in great philosophers….Embodied mind -- Lakoff &amp; Johnson, 1999; Clark 1996; Varela et al. 1993- abstract concepts (e.g. democracy, African-American, god, ego, compassion, spirit, evolution, formal operational thinking, left hand quadrant, green meme, or Eros)
  19. POMO: Focus on what is wrong