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Lines in the Sand:
Boundaries &
Sustainable DPC
Dr. Julie Gunther, sparkMD
Dr. Delicia Haynes, Family First Health Center
Submit your questions to: aafp3.cnf.io
Activity Disclaimer
The material presented here is being made available by the DPC Summit Co-organizers for
educational purposes only. This material is not intended to represent the only, nor necessarily best,
methods or processes appropriate for the practice models discussed. Rather, it is intended to
present statements and opinions of the faculty that may be helpful to others in similar situations.
Any performance data from any direct primary care practices cited herein is intended for purposes
of illustration only and should not be viewed as a recommendation of how to conduct your practice.
The DPC Summit Co-Organizers disclaim liability for damages or claims that might arise out of the
use of the materials presented herein, whether asserted by a physician or any other person. While
the DPC Summit Co-Organizers have attempted to ensure the accuracy of the data presented
here, these materials may contain information and/or opinions developed by others, and their
inclusion here does not necessarily imply endorsement by any of the DPC Summit Co-Organizers.
The DPC Summit Co-Organizers are not making any recommendation of how you should conduct
your practice or any guarantee regarding the financial viability of DPC conversion or practice.
Faculty Disclosure
It is the policy of the DPC Summit Co-Organizers that all individuals in a position to
control content disclose any relationships with commercial interests upon
nomination/invitation of participation. Disclosure documents are reviewed for potential
conflict of interest (COI), and if identified, conflicts are resolved prior to confirmation of
participation. Only those participants who had no conflict of interest or who agreed to an
identified resolution process prior to their participation were involved in this CME activity.
All faculty in a position to control content for this session have indicated they
have no relevant financial relationships to disclose.
The content of this material/presentation in this CME activity will not include discussion
of unapproved or investigational uses of products or devices.
Learning Objectives
•Create boundaries prior to opening a DPC
practice to pave a path for a sustainable
practice.
•Modify their business model after opening to
correct for unanticipated lifestyle challenges
inherent to DPC.
•Compare and contrast challenges of DPC
practices through an open-forum discussion.
AGENDA
• DPC included within Plan and is a Part of the Premium Paid
• Co-pay up to Covered at 100%
• Labs
• Basic and Advanced Imaging
• Home Sleep Study
• Safe Harbor Hospitals
Drs. Gunther & Haynes, AAFP DPC Summit 2018
Boundaries
Traditional
Boundaries in
Healthcare....
The SPACE in
DPC
Contract
Structure
Sample
Structure
80/20 Rule
DPC
Boundary
Themes
Questions
AGENDA
Boundaries
“Healthy boundaries are a crucial component of
self-care in all aspects of our lives. For example, ‘in
work or in our personal relationships, poor
boundaries lead to resentment, anger, and
burnout’(Nelson, 2016). . . a clear place where you
begin and the other person ends”
Traditional Boundary Challenges in Healthcare
1
Over-Familiarity
-Patients have your cel phone?
-After hours availability
-First-name basis
-Home, T-ball, Daycare Visits?
2
Business Relationships
-Trading care for Advertising, Car
repair, a real estate lease..
3
Gift giving & accepting
-Flowers, cookies, cards, blue jeans?
4
Treating friends, Staff &/or Family
-Caring for your accountant, real estate
agent, mentor, lawyer etc??
Direct Primary Care is a business model.
There are inherent ‘violations’ to traditionally
held boundaries, but the SPACE between
patient and physician remains. This space
must be clearly outlined for patient,
physician and practice well-being.
The SPACE in DPC: what
are you offering?
Patient Contract
Legally defines your services
and the limits of the care you
can and will provide.
A contract with your patient is
a MUST.
Consider also having a
welcome to the practice letter.
Practice Structure
Plan your day, even in the beginning
Structure = Sustainability
Everything all at once works when you’re small
Registration Fee
Watch out for same day new patients
Establish a daily workflow.
Set aside time to work ON your business.
Decide practice rules on late patients, walk ins,
multiple cancellations & after-hours communication
A Day/Week in DPC: Example
7:30-8:30: Labs, Imaging,
route work to MA’s for day
8:30-8:45 “SCRUM”
8:45: am lab draws start
9:00-1pm: patient care time
1:00-2:00 Lunch
(review labs/messages
again)
2:00-5:00 Patient Care
(review labs/messages
again)
DPC & Boundaries: Themes
0
1
The “I have to pay even when I
don’t come in?” patient
Your patient contract should solve this
problem. A registration fee helps
tremendously to establish that patients pay
you directly for what you do.
0
2
The “I’m paying so I am going to
utilize you for e.v.e.r.y.t.h.i.n.g”
Entitlement to YOU can be a problem in
DPC. Be very clear what you are selling.
0
3
The “just real quick” patient
DPC patients can feel like they are your
ONLY patient. Be wary of enabling this
feeling. Overtime
DPC & Boundaries: Themes
0
4
The “You didn’t tell me…”
Have a narcotic contract if you prescribe
narcotics, stick to it like GLUE.
Be VERY wary of borderline behavior- the
patient has the disease NOT you.
0
5
The afterhours communicator
Texting & email are E.A.S.Y. Be aware of
when YOU choose to text patients. Do not
reinforce unnecessary after hours
communication. Schedule messages.
0
6
The patient “no one” can help
Your happiest patients are your greatest
advocates. Be conscientious of what you’re
building.
“Daring to set boundaries is about
having the courage to love ourselves
even when we risk disappointing
others.”
~Brene Brown
Questions?
Submit your questions to:
aafp3.cnf.io
Don’t forget to evaluate
this session!
Contact Information
Julie Gunther, MD
sparkMD
drg@sparkmd.org
Delicia M. Haynes, MD
Family First Health Center
drhaynes@familyfirsthealthcenter.com

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Boundaries & Sustainable DPC: Creating Structure for Physician Well-Being

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  • 2. Lines in the Sand: Boundaries & Sustainable DPC Dr. Julie Gunther, sparkMD Dr. Delicia Haynes, Family First Health Center Submit your questions to: aafp3.cnf.io
  • 3. Activity Disclaimer The material presented here is being made available by the DPC Summit Co-organizers for educational purposes only. This material is not intended to represent the only, nor necessarily best, methods or processes appropriate for the practice models discussed. Rather, it is intended to present statements and opinions of the faculty that may be helpful to others in similar situations. Any performance data from any direct primary care practices cited herein is intended for purposes of illustration only and should not be viewed as a recommendation of how to conduct your practice. The DPC Summit Co-Organizers disclaim liability for damages or claims that might arise out of the use of the materials presented herein, whether asserted by a physician or any other person. While the DPC Summit Co-Organizers have attempted to ensure the accuracy of the data presented here, these materials may contain information and/or opinions developed by others, and their inclusion here does not necessarily imply endorsement by any of the DPC Summit Co-Organizers. The DPC Summit Co-Organizers are not making any recommendation of how you should conduct your practice or any guarantee regarding the financial viability of DPC conversion or practice.
  • 4. Faculty Disclosure It is the policy of the DPC Summit Co-Organizers that all individuals in a position to control content disclose any relationships with commercial interests upon nomination/invitation of participation. Disclosure documents are reviewed for potential conflict of interest (COI), and if identified, conflicts are resolved prior to confirmation of participation. Only those participants who had no conflict of interest or who agreed to an identified resolution process prior to their participation were involved in this CME activity. All faculty in a position to control content for this session have indicated they have no relevant financial relationships to disclose. The content of this material/presentation in this CME activity will not include discussion of unapproved or investigational uses of products or devices.
  • 5. Learning Objectives •Create boundaries prior to opening a DPC practice to pave a path for a sustainable practice. •Modify their business model after opening to correct for unanticipated lifestyle challenges inherent to DPC. •Compare and contrast challenges of DPC practices through an open-forum discussion.
  • 6. AGENDA • DPC included within Plan and is a Part of the Premium Paid • Co-pay up to Covered at 100% • Labs • Basic and Advanced Imaging • Home Sleep Study • Safe Harbor Hospitals
  • 7. Drs. Gunther & Haynes, AAFP DPC Summit 2018 Boundaries Traditional Boundaries in Healthcare.... The SPACE in DPC Contract Structure Sample Structure 80/20 Rule DPC Boundary Themes Questions AGENDA
  • 8. Boundaries “Healthy boundaries are a crucial component of self-care in all aspects of our lives. For example, ‘in work or in our personal relationships, poor boundaries lead to resentment, anger, and burnout’(Nelson, 2016). . . a clear place where you begin and the other person ends”
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  • 10. Traditional Boundary Challenges in Healthcare 1 Over-Familiarity -Patients have your cel phone? -After hours availability -First-name basis -Home, T-ball, Daycare Visits? 2 Business Relationships -Trading care for Advertising, Car repair, a real estate lease.. 3 Gift giving & accepting -Flowers, cookies, cards, blue jeans? 4 Treating friends, Staff &/or Family -Caring for your accountant, real estate agent, mentor, lawyer etc??
  • 11. Direct Primary Care is a business model. There are inherent ‘violations’ to traditionally held boundaries, but the SPACE between patient and physician remains. This space must be clearly outlined for patient, physician and practice well-being.
  • 12. The SPACE in DPC: what are you offering?
  • 13. Patient Contract Legally defines your services and the limits of the care you can and will provide. A contract with your patient is a MUST. Consider also having a welcome to the practice letter.
  • 14. Practice Structure Plan your day, even in the beginning Structure = Sustainability Everything all at once works when you’re small Registration Fee Watch out for same day new patients Establish a daily workflow. Set aside time to work ON your business. Decide practice rules on late patients, walk ins, multiple cancellations & after-hours communication
  • 15. A Day/Week in DPC: Example 7:30-8:30: Labs, Imaging, route work to MA’s for day 8:30-8:45 “SCRUM” 8:45: am lab draws start 9:00-1pm: patient care time 1:00-2:00 Lunch (review labs/messages again) 2:00-5:00 Patient Care (review labs/messages again)
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  • 17. DPC & Boundaries: Themes 0 1 The “I have to pay even when I don’t come in?” patient Your patient contract should solve this problem. A registration fee helps tremendously to establish that patients pay you directly for what you do. 0 2 The “I’m paying so I am going to utilize you for e.v.e.r.y.t.h.i.n.g” Entitlement to YOU can be a problem in DPC. Be very clear what you are selling. 0 3 The “just real quick” patient DPC patients can feel like they are your ONLY patient. Be wary of enabling this feeling. Overtime
  • 18. DPC & Boundaries: Themes 0 4 The “You didn’t tell me…” Have a narcotic contract if you prescribe narcotics, stick to it like GLUE. Be VERY wary of borderline behavior- the patient has the disease NOT you. 0 5 The afterhours communicator Texting & email are E.A.S.Y. Be aware of when YOU choose to text patients. Do not reinforce unnecessary after hours communication. Schedule messages. 0 6 The patient “no one” can help Your happiest patients are your greatest advocates. Be conscientious of what you’re building.
  • 19. “Daring to set boundaries is about having the courage to love ourselves even when we risk disappointing others.” ~Brene Brown
  • 20. Questions? Submit your questions to: aafp3.cnf.io Don’t forget to evaluate this session! Contact Information Julie Gunther, MD sparkMD drg@sparkmd.org Delicia M. Haynes, MD Family First Health Center drhaynes@familyfirsthealthcenter.com

Editor's Notes

  1. Introduce your self. Finance degree, investment banking and options trading. Back to med school and didn’t want to practice in typical insurance environment. Started DPC and Mike Garrett invited to Summit Went to DPC summit in Arlington virginia and because of some of the speakers turned my attention towards employers. 350 Life company in Houstone 300 Life company in Lubbock
  2. The Entrust plans include the DPC payment with the insurance premium and this point refers back to the point of keeping the company safe from a tax standpoint. That payment is then routed towards the doctor. And just as you would offer discounts to your private patients for those services that can be obtained at lower prices when you pay Cash, these plans have a mechanism to allow for that savings. The imaging and lab costs to the healthplan end up being so inexpensive for the company that the company will often put very low co-pays on these services or just pay for them out right for the patient. I’m sure those that are practicing DPC doctors have experienced the frustration associated with high deductible health plans when we order something as simple as an MRI but the patient has not yet hit their deductible and indicates that they cannot afford to pay for it, even when we are able to offer it to them at an extremely discounted rate. One of the great parts about these plans is that they have gone out and pre-contracted with hospitals to be certain that the hospital will accept the reference based pricing. The trade-off is that the plan agrees to pay the deductible and the co-pay for the patient, so there is no cost to the patient, and the hospital agrees to take the reference based Price in return. From the hospital’s standpoint, the largest part of their current accounts receivable outstanding, which comes from individuals with a high deductible health plans who cannot pay their deductible, goes away. This negates the possibility of a balance bill from the hospital and that would be the biggest portion of the bill usually. 1:50
  3. “a boundary is a limit or space between you and the other person; a clear place where you begin and the other person ends … [t]he purpose of setting a healthy boundary is, of course, to protect and take good care of you” https://positivepsychologyprogram.com/great-self-care-setting-healthy-boundaries/#what physician- patient relationship is unique and (used to) have an inherent imbalance of power.
  4. file:///C:/Users/sparkMD/Downloads/Medical%20Students%20-%20Challenges%20of%20Professional%20Boundaries.pdf
  5. Peace of MIND.
  6. Patients think they OWN you.