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Ecclesiastes 9:5
For the livingknow that they will die, but the dead know nothing, and
they have no morereward, for the memory of them is forgotten.
Ecclesiastes 12:7 And the dustreturnsto the earth as it was, and the
spirit returnsto God who gave it.
1 Thessalonians 4:14 For since we believe that Jesus died and rose
again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have
fallen asleep.
Psalm 146:4
When his breath departs, he returnsto the earth; on that very day his
plansperish.
In John 11:38-43Jesuscalled Lazarusoutof his graveafter he was dead
for 4 days.
“The soulthat sinneth, it shall die.”—Ezekiel18:4,
God proceeded to form the man outof dustfrom the ground and to blow
into his nostrilsthe breath of life, and the man came to be a
living soul [Hebrew, neʹphesh].”—Genesis 2:7.
“soul” in the Biblical senserefers to the entire living being. If separated
from the life force originally given by God, the souldies.—Genesis
3:19; Ezekiel 18:20.
John11:25-26 Jesussaid unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he
that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And
whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou
this?
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the
voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ
shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up
together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so
shall weever be with the Lord. 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
1 Corr 15:22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be madealive
And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of
God is with men, and he will dwellwith them, and they shall be his
people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God
shall wipeaway all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more
death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any morepain:
for the former things are passed away. Rev 21:3-4
For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the
dead. 1 Corr. 15:21
Here is a trustworthy saying: If wedied with him,
we will also live with him.
.
2 Timothy 2:11
1 Corinthians 15:51-57
Behold! I tell you a mystery. Weshall not all sleep, but we shall all be
changed, in a moment, in the twinklingof an eye, at the last trumpet. For
the trumpetwill sound, and thedead will be raised imperishable, and
we shall be changed. For this perishable body mustputon the
imperishable, and this mortal body mustputon immortality. When the
perishable puts on the imperishable, and the mortalputs on
immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is written: “Death is
swallowed up in victory.” “O death, where is your victory? O death,
where is your sting?” ...
Matthew 10:28 And do notfear those who kill the body but cannot kill
the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both souland body in hell
Acts 7:59 And asthey were stoning Stephen, he called out, “Lord Jesus,
receive my spirit.”
Hebrews 9:27 And justasit is appointed for man to die once, and after
that comes judgment,
Psalm 115:17 Thedead do not praise the Lord, nor do any who go down
into silence.
Revelation 14:13 And Iheard a voice from heaven saying, “Write this:
Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.” “Blessed
indeed,” saysthe Spirit, “that they may rest from their labors, for their
deedsfollow them!”
For webrought nothing into the world, and wecannot take anything out
of the world.
Genesis3:19
By the sweat of your faceyou shall eat bread, till you return to the
ground, for outof it you were taken; for you are dust, and to dustyou
shall return.”
John 5:24-26 ESV/ 26 helpfulvotes Helpful NotHelpful
Truly, truly, Isay to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who
sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed
from death to life. “Truly, truly, Isay to you, an hour is coming, and is
now here, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those
who hear will live. For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted
the Son also to have life in himself.
Luke20:36 ESV/ 21 helpfulvotes Helpful Not Helpful
For they cannot dieanymore, because they are equal to angels and are
sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.
Hebrews 2:14 ESV/ 16 helpfulvotes Helpful Not Helpful
Since therefore the children share in flesh and blood, he himself likewise
partook of the same things, that through death he might destroy the one
who has the power of death, that is, the devil
Ecclesiastes 5:15 ESV / 16 helpfulvotes Helpful NotHelpful
As he came from his mother'swomb he shall go again, naked as he
came, and shall take nothing for his toil that he may carry away in his
hand.
Psalm 104:29 ESV/ 15 helpfulvotes Helpful NotHelpful
When you hide your face, they are dismayed; when you take away their
breath, they die and return to their dust.
Revelation 20:14 ESV/ 14 helpfulvotes Helpful Not Helpful
Then Death and Hades werethrown into the lake of fire. This is the
second death, the lake of fire.
John 11:25 ESV/ 12 helpfulvotes Helpful Not Helpful
Jesussaid to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in
me, though he die, yet shall he live,
How the wise dies just like the fool! Ecclesiastes 2:14-18
Revelation 20:4-6 ESV/ 11 helpfulvotes Helpful Not Helpful
Then I saw thrones, and seated on them werethose to whom the
authority to judgewas committed. Also I saw the soulsof those who had
been beheaded for the testimony of Jesusand for the word of God, and
those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not
received its mark on their foreheadsor their hands. They came to life
and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. The rest of the dead did
not come to life until the thousand years wereended. This is the first
resurrection. Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first
resurrection!Over such the second death has no power, but they will be
priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand
years.
ohn 5:24 ESV/ 11 helpfulvotes Helpful Not Helpful
Truly, truly, Isay to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who
sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed
from death to life.
Luke23:39-43 ESV/11 helpfulvotes Helpful Not Helpful
One of the criminals who werehanged railed at him, saying, “Areyou
not the Christ? Save yourself and us!” But the other rebuked him, saying,
“Do you not fear God, sinceyou are under the same sentence of
condemnation? And weindeed justly, for weare receiving the due
reward of our deeds; but this man has donenothing wrong.” And he
said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.” And he
said to him, “Truly, I say to you, today you willbe with me in Paradise.”
Revelation 2:11 ESV / 10 helpfulvotes Helpful NotHelpful
He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. The
one who conquerswill not be hurtby the second death.’
John 5:28-29 ESV/ 10 helpfulvotes Helpful NotHelpful
Do not marvelat this, for an hour is coming when all who are in the
tombs will hear his voice and come out, those who have donegood to
the resurrection of life, and those who have doneevil to the resurrection
of judgment
Revelation 6:8 ESV / 9 helpfulvotes Helpful Not Helpful
And I looked, and behold, a pale horse! And its rider'snamewas Death,
and Hades followed him. And they were given authority over a fourth of
the earth, to kill with sword and with famineand with pestilence and by
wild beasts of the earth.
1 Thessalonians 4:13-14 ESV/ 9 helpfulvotes Helpful Not Helpful
Butwe do not wantyou to be uninformed, brothers, aboutthose who
are asleep, that you may not grieve as others do who have no hope. For
since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus,
God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep.
1 Corinthians 15:42-44ESV/ 9 helpfulvotes Helpful Not Helpful
So is it with the resurrection of the dead. What is sown is perishable;
what is raised is imperishable. It is sown in dishonor; it is raised in
glory. It is sown in weakness; it is raised in power. It is sown a natural
body; it is raised a spiritualbody. If there is a naturalbody, there is also
a spiritual body.
1 Corinthians 15:21 ESV/ 9 helpfulvotes Helpful Not Helpful
For as by a man came death, by a man has come also the resurrection of
the dead.
Daniel12:2 ESV / 9 helpfulvotes Helpful Not Helpful
And many of those who sleep in the dustof the earth shall awake, some
to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
a synopsis of the matter of ‘predestination’.
The Latin text of the Catholic Vulgate version has in Romans 8:29–30 and in
Ephesians 1:5 and 11 the wordspraedestinavit and praedestinati.
Many bible-translators have copied and used those Latin words, in anglicised
forms, instead of properly translating the Greek text of the New Testament. This
has led to misunderstandings.
In the Greek text of those verses, the relevant word is the combination pro-
orizô. The part orizô (horizô) referred to such things as “binding”,
“appointing”, “separating”, “marking out by boundaries”, “marking out for
oneself”, and so on.
In short, the meaning of the four above-mentioned verses is that in the first
century, God marked out and separated (chose) for himself a group of people for a
special purpose. He set them apart and gave them his Holy Spirit, and betrothed
them to his son Jesus. That is what the verb proorizĂ´ refers to, in the Greek text
of Romans 8:29–30 and Ephesians 1:5 and 11.
Here, it is good to keep in mind that those verses do not talk about people of our
day. One must not make the mistake that when one reads the Bible, one thinks that
all the “nice” things in that book somehow apply to the reader. For, that simply is
not so. One does not become marked out by God and separated for a special
destiny, by reading about people who were that. One does not become a saint, by
reading about the saints.
The saints were a “first-fruits harvest” for God, here on Earth. In what we today
view as “end time”, there will be another “harvest”, the great, innumerable
multitude.
A number of religious writers have talked about “predestination”. That word is
found even in many bible-versions. Those things have caused some people to
think that nothing can change their fate or destiny.
But, what do the words “predestination” and “predestine” or “predestinate” mean?
And, more importantly, what does the Greek text of the relevant New Testament
passages actually say and mean and refer to? This article takes a closer look at that
matter.
The origin of the word ‘predestinate’.
The passages in question are Romans 8:29 and 30 and Ephesians 1:5 and 11. The
reason why many bible-translators have put into those four verses the word
“predestinate”, is simply that they have copied that from the Latin text of the
Catholic Vulgate version which
has praedestinavit and praedestinati in those passages.
It appears that the word combination prae-destino was rare in old Latin, but
its verb part destino was used in such meanings as “to bind”, “to intend to
buy”, “to appoint”, “to choose”, and so on.
The relevant word in the Greek text of the New Testament.
In the four above-mentioned verses, the Greek NT text has proorizĂ´. That word
consists of the preposition pro and the verbhorizĂ´ which in old Greek referred
to such things as “binding”, “appointing”, “dividing”, “separating”, “marking out
by boundaries”, “marking out for oneself”, and so on.
(A note: In old Greek, the meaning of the related noun horizĂ´n was originally
“limits”, “a separating circle”.)
Those four verses refer to the fact that in the first century, God marked out and
separated for himself a group of people, for a special purpose.
In short: Romans 8:29–30 and Ephesians 1:5 and 11 refer to people whom God in
those days gave his Holy Spirit. They were chosen for something special. They
were a spiritual “first-fruits harvest” for God, here on Earth.
The passages in question.
Here are the four relevant verses. In the parts which are highlighted, the Greek text
has the verb proorizĂ´ whose meaning was explained above.
Ephesians 1:5 having marked us [a] out beforehand for adoption through Jesus
Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will (DBY, highlighting
and note sign added)
Ephesians 1:11 in whom we [a] have also obtained an inheritance, being marked
out beforehand according to the purpose of him who works all things
according to the counsel of his own will (DBY, note sign and highlighting
added)
Romans 8:29 Because whom he has foreknown, he has also predestinated to be
conformed to the image of his Son, so that he should be the firstborn among
many brethren. 30 But whom he has predestinated, these also he has called;
and whom he has called, these also he has justified; but whom he has justified,
these also he has glorified. (DBY, highlighting added)
a Please note that the words “us” and “we” in Ephesians 1:5 and 11 refer to Paul
and the saints whom he was writing to. We who today read a copy of that letter,
are not mentioned in it. (Even we are mentioned in some places in the Scriptures,
but only indirectly, in regard to still future things. The
articles nga020.htm and nga030.htm have some notes on this.)
Again: The old Greek verb proorizô did not really refer to “predestination” but
rather to “marking out” and “separating”. The four above-quoted verses refer to
the fact that in the first century, God chose and set apart a group of people, for
something special.
Warnings given to the saints.
In New Testament times, and to a degree even before that, God called a number of
people to become a part of a very special group, but the called ones were not
forced to heed that calling.
If they wanted to make it to the Kingdom, they had to hold on to their high calling.
See for instance this passage:
2 Peter 1:10 Therefore, brethren, be even more diligent to make your call and
electionsure, for if you do these things you will never stumble (NKJV)
“If you do these things” – the context shows what those things were:
2 Peter 1:2 Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and
of Jesus our Lord, 3 as His divine power has given to us all things that pertain to
life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him who called us by glory and
virtue, 4 by which have been given to us exceedingly great and precious
promises, that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature, having
escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. 5 But also for this very
reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge, 6 to
knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness,
7 to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness love. 8 For if these
things are yours and abound, you will be neither barren nor unfruitful in the
knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 For he who lacks these things is
shortsighted, even to blindness, and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his
old sins. 10 Therefore, brethren, be even more diligent to make your call and
election sure, for if you do these things you will never stumble; 11 for so an
entrance will be supplied to you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our
Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. (NKJV)
“Godliness”, “diligence”, “self-control”, “virtue”, “perseverance”, and more – this
shows that the saints could not just sit down and lean back and say, “I am saved”
or “I am predestined” – there was also “doing”, for them. Of course, this did not
mean that they could “earn” salvation through “works”. God offered them
salvation as a free gift, by grace. But, they faced a risk of missing out on that
freely offered salvation, if they did not show interest in it or in Jesus who had paid
for it. When they were offered that free gift, they had to grab hold of it, and then
they had to act and live according to their high calling. If they did that, they would
make it to the Kingdom.
The apostle Paul wrote in his letter to the saints in Corinth that they had been
“bought with a price” (1 Corinthians 6:20 and 7:23). Consequently, he wrote to
them, “glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s”. In
connection with this, Paul gave a long list of moral guidelines. (See those passages
in your bible, along with their wider context.)
Also: The saints were to be doing good works. That is a central part of
righteousness. The article nga080.htm has some notes on this.
The apostle Paul told the disciples in Philippi to keep working
toward their salvation.
The apostle Paul had been in Philippi and helped and guided the disciples there.
When he had left that town and area, he wrote to them that when he was absent,
they were to keep working toward their salvation.
Philippians 2:12 So then, my dear friends, just as you have always obeyed, not
only in my presence, but now even more in my absence, work out your own
salvation [b] with fear and trembling. [c] 13 For it is God who is working in you,
enabling you both to will and to act for His good purpose. 14 Do everything
without grumbling and arguing, 15 so that you may be blameless and pure,
children of God who are faultless in a crooked and perverted generation, among
whom you shine like stars in the world. 16 Hold firmly the message of life.
Then I can boast in the day of Christ that I didn’t run in vain or labor for
nothing. (HCSB, note signs added)
b “Work out your own salvation” – some translations have “work toward your
salvation”, or similar. Point: There was effort to be made. They could not just lean
back and say, “we are predestined”, “we are saved”.
c The Greek text has the rhyming phrase meta phobou kai tromou whose
literal meaning is “with fear and trembling”. It appears that Paul was simply
telling those people to “make their calling and election sure”, just as Simon Peter
did, see the earlier quoted 2 Peter 1:10.
It was God who gave them salvation (lasting life), but they had to hold on to that
salvation, and they had to live according to the high calling which God had given
them.
More, regarding “running the race” towards salvation:
Philippians 3:10 My goal is to know Him and the power of His resurrection and
the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death, 11 assuming
that I will somehow reach the resurrection from among the dead. 12 Not that I
have already reached the goal or am already fully mature, but I make every
effort to take hold of it because I also have been taken hold of by Christ Jesus.
13 Brothers, I do not consider myself to have taken hold of it. But one thing I
do: forgetting what is behind and reaching forward to what is ahead, 14 I pursue
as my goal the prize promised by God’s heavenly call in Christ Jesus. 15
Therefore, all who are mature should think this way. And if you think
differently about anything, God will reveal this to you also. (HCSB)
Notice Paul’s words, “not that I have already reached the goal”, verse 12. In other
words: There was a need for Paul and the saints in general, to keep pressing on, so
that they would make it.
Things that people might connect to the concept
‘predestination’.
There are many things that people might connect to the concept “predestination”.
Often, that includes a concept of belonging to an exclusive group, “the elect”, “the
chosen ones”, “the first-fruits”, and so on.
Some preachers have tickled their followers’ egos, by causing them to think that
by following the preacher and joining his church, they became a part of “God’s
first-fruits” – a part of “the 144000”, or something similar. But the facts are, of
course, that it was the saints [d] who were the “first-fruits”, the 144000 of
Revelation 14. It was they who were specially marked out and separated, for a
special purpose. (The article nta030.htm has some notes on the 144000 and the
great multitude, and the difference between those two groups.)
Likewise, some preachers have copied the old Catholic “true church” dogma and
modified it and used it for causing people to believe that their church (the
preacher’s) is “true”, “original” and “uncorrupted”, “the true church of God”, and
that those who follow the preacher and join his church are “the chosen ones”, “the
elect”, “predestined”, and so on. But, those things are mind-manipulation through
ego-tickling. Again, the facts are that the group whom the New Testament talks
about as separated or “marked out” ones, consists of the saints. [d] The
article naa010.htm has some notes on the “true church” dogma. The
articlenba020.htm takes a closer look at such things as “calling”, “election” and
“sanctification”.
Then, some preachers have combined the Catholic “true church” dogma with the
Baptist, Millerist “church eras” dogma, and applied both things (in modified
forms) to their own churches. The article naa030.htm sorts out that matter.
d In this article, the word “saints” refers to those who received the Holy Spirit in
biblical times, first century CE or earlier. See also the article nga030.htm.
Soul, souls
 The Bible does not mention such a concept as “immortal soul”. The talk
about “immortal souls” appears to be of Catholic origin. Humans are mortal
and do not have everlasting life in themselves; that is something they must
be given by God.
 In numerous bible-passages where English bible-translators have put in the
word “soul”, the meaning is “a person”, “an individual”; in some other
passages, the meaning is more like “life”, “mind”, or similar. More:
 What bible-translators have rendered as “soul”, is often the
Hebrew nephesh or the Greek psuchĂŞ. Those words had a wide usage
with many different meanings.
o The Hebrew word nephesh meant such things as “breath”, “life”,
“mind”, “person”, “being”, et cetera. The 1769KJ version
translates nephesh in many different ways, such as “soul”, “life”,
“person”, “mind”, “heart”, “creature”, “body”, “himself”,
“yourselves”, “dead”, “will”, “desire”, “man”, “themselves”, “any”
and “appetite”.
 A note: The KJV1769 never translates the noun nephesh as
“spirit” or “ghost”, except in Job 11:20 and Jeremiah 15:9
where it talks about “giving up the ghost”. (Some versions
note in the margin of Job 11:20, “or, a puff of breath”; some
others make it to a “sigh”, and so on. In the case of Jeremiah
15:9, there are numerous different interpretations – guesses –
as to what the Hebrew wording might have meant, such as
“breathe her last”, “gasps for breath”, “her breathing is
laboured”, and so on.)
o The Greek word psuchê meant such things as “life”, “breath”,
“self” (mind, consciousness), “spirit”. The 1769 KJversion translates
it in various ways, such as “life”, “mind”, “heart”, “soul”.
 Regarding the root and origin (etymology) of the English word “soul” –
etymological lexicons give only dubious explanations, if any. Some note
that the word “soul” (Middle English soule, Old English sawol) is
related to similar words in other Germanic languages, but that does not lead
to the actual root or original meaning of that word.
dur: a circle, ball. Original Word: ‫.רּוּד‬
Original Word: ‫:.גּוח‬ chug
thedevil is a roaring lion, wandering aroundseeking whohe may devour. 1
Peter 5:8
Revelation 12 & Daniel 8 Daniel2
Ten Horns:BlueLetter Bible
The belief of life after death IS unbiblical and false. No one is alive right now.
Every person is in a unconscious sleep until the resurrection. The problem is you
folks carry the pagan idea of necromancy. The dead does not live and they are
not communicating with us. Why would Jesus come again and raise the dead
from their graves if the dead is already in heaven? Or punish sinners who were
already in hell? Why did Jesus call death a sleep? Lazarus was clearly dead but
He said that he was asleep. Did Jesus snatch Lazarus from heaven or did He
raise him from a dreamless sleep? I propose the latter. Psalm 115:17 The dead
do not praise the LORD, Nor do any who go down into silence; Ecclesiastes 9:5-
6 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing, and they have
no more reward, for the memory of them is forgotten. Their love and their hate
and their envy have already perished, and forever they have no more share in all
that is done under the sun. John 11:10-14 After saying these things, he said to
them, “Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep, but I go to awaken him.” The
disciples said to him, “Lord, if he has fallen asleep, he will recover.” Now Jesus
had spoken of his death, but they thought that he meant taking rest in sleep.
Then Jesus told them plainly, “Lazarus has died, Even Martha believed that
Lazarus would rise at the second coming and that he was not alive or a spirit.
"Martha said to him, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection on the last
day.” She didn't know that Christ was going to raise him from the dead at that
moment but we see where her mind was. Jesus did not deny the resurrection at
the Second Coming, nor did he tell her that Lazarus was in a better place.
Instead he basically said, "Don't be sad for long, I will raise him up now, as a
example of what will happen to those who are redeemed." (I'm obviously
paraphrasing lol) The problem is that you all accept the doctrines passed down
from Rome. You accept Catholic doctrines even if you aren't Catholic. The
Catholic Church is nothing but Roman Paganism hidden under a Christian Garb
and Necromancy was a huge pagan ideology. The ONLY time we will ascend
into a higher state of being is when Christ returns. But when you die, you die.
Period. You are unconscious until the Lord returns. But since the brain is
destroyed in death, you will not even know how long you slept when the Lord
wakes you. The Lord can come in the year 3030 but to your perception it would
seem like a quick minute. Stop believing that when people die they go to heaven
or hell. None of that is happening until the Second Coming and the more you
embrace these ideas of the dead being alive, the easier the devil can get you into
Spiritualistic and demonic doctrines. Spiritualism is nothing but Witchcraft under
a Christian garb, and it's only possible because Christians aren't reading the
Bible. They believe in the afterlife and that's not good.
he trinity doctrine is not biblical. There is one God, The Father. Christ is His only
begotten son and therefore divine (God by nature). The spirit belongs to God and
not a different person to him. The Holy Spirit = The Spirit of God and Christ John
17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and
Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. The Holy Spirit is not a 3rd God ! called God
The Holy Spirit. Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they
are the sons of God. 2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where
the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. Galatians 4:6 And because ye are sons,
God hath sent forth ''THE SPIRIT OF HIS SON'' into your hearts, crying, Abba,
Father. The Holy Spirit = The Spirit of God and Christ God is God the Father !
Jesus is the only begotten SON OF God (Divine) ! and the Holy Spirit is the spirit
of God that reveals all truth. John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go
away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said,
I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. Jesus Christ himself said
that His Father is greater than Him. Jesus Christ the Son of God died for our sins
! not God The Father. God The Father cannot die. Deuteronomy 32:39-40 See
now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I
wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand. For I lift
up my hand to heaven, and say, I live for ever. Psalm 90:2 Before the mountains
were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from
everlasting to everlasting, thou art God. Psalm 102:27 But thou art the same, and
thy years shall have no end. Zechariah 6:13 “Even he shall build the temple of
the LORD; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and
he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between
them both.” In this verse it's very clear, the plan of salvation shall be between
them both ! 1) God The Father ! 2) Jesus Christ, His only begotten Son ! Two
persons ! not 3. John 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour
cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the
Father. John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for
salvation is of the Jews. John 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the
true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father
seeketh such to worship him. John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship
him must worship him in spirit and in truth. These verses talk about our Father
who is spirit, and we are to worship him in spirit and in truth. Many think that our
God is a "mystery" which they call a Trinity. The words of Jesus "Ye know not
what ye worship" would apply if our God is a mystery. When we get to heaven,
God will not then say "Meet my spirit". We will see God face to face, and we will
know him. The Father of Jesus Christ. Ephesians 1:17 That the God of our Lord
Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and
revelation in the knowledge of him: Ephesians 1:18 The eyes of your
understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his
calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,
Catholic Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger (now pope Benedict XVI) makes this
confession as to the origin of the chief Trinity text of Matthew 28:19 saying: "The
basic form of our (Matthew 28:19 Trinitarian) profession of faith took shape
during the course of the second and third centuries in connection with the
ceremony of baptism. So far as its place of origin is concerned, the text (Matthew
28:19) came from the city of Rome. The Trinity baptism and text of Matthew
28:19 therefore did not originate from the original Church that started in
Jerusalem around 33 A.D. It was rather, as the evidence proves, a later invention
of Roman Catholicism completely fabricated. Very few know about these
historical facts.”
(http://www.askacatholic.com/_webpostings/answers/2012_01JAN/2012JanWhy
WereAdjustmentsMade.cfm) The Catholic Encyclopedia, II, page 263: “The
baptismal formula was changed from the name of Jesus Christ to the words
Father, Son, and Holy Spirit by the Catholic Church in the second century.” The
Pagan Roots of the Trinity (Playlist)
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  • 1. Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the livingknow that they will die, but the dead know nothing, and they have no morereward, for the memory of them is forgotten. Ecclesiastes 12:7 And the dustreturnsto the earth as it was, and the spirit returnsto God who gave it. 1 Thessalonians 4:14 For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep. Psalm 146:4 When his breath departs, he returnsto the earth; on that very day his plansperish. In John 11:38-43Jesuscalled Lazarusoutof his graveafter he was dead for 4 days. “The soulthat sinneth, it shall die.”—Ezekiel18:4, God proceeded to form the man outof dustfrom the ground and to blow into his nostrilsthe breath of life, and the man came to be a living soul [Hebrew, neĘšphesh].”—Genesis 2:7. “soul” in the Biblical senserefers to the entire living being. If separated from the life force originally given by God, the souldies.—Genesis 3:19; Ezekiel 18:20. John11:25-26 Jesussaid unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up
  • 2. together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall weever be with the Lord. 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 1 Corr 15:22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be madealive And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwellwith them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipeaway all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any morepain: for the former things are passed away. Rev 21:3-4 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 1 Corr. 15:21 Here is a trustworthy saying: If wedied with him, we will also live with him. . 2 Timothy 2:11 1 Corinthians 15:51-57 Behold! I tell you a mystery. Weshall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinklingof an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpetwill sound, and thedead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed. For this perishable body mustputon the imperishable, and this mortal body mustputon immortality. When the perishable puts on the imperishable, and the mortalputs on immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is written: “Death is swallowed up in victory.” “O death, where is your victory? O death, where is your sting?” ... Matthew 10:28 And do notfear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both souland body in hell Acts 7:59 And asthey were stoning Stephen, he called out, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.”
  • 3. Hebrews 9:27 And justasit is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment, Psalm 115:17 Thedead do not praise the Lord, nor do any who go down into silence. Revelation 14:13 And Iheard a voice from heaven saying, “Write this: Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.” “Blessed indeed,” saysthe Spirit, “that they may rest from their labors, for their deedsfollow them!” For webrought nothing into the world, and wecannot take anything out of the world. Genesis3:19 By the sweat of your faceyou shall eat bread, till you return to the ground, for outof it you were taken; for you are dust, and to dustyou shall return.” John 5:24-26 ESV/ 26 helpfulvotes Helpful NotHelpful Truly, truly, Isay to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life. “Truly, truly, Isay to you, an hour is coming, and is now here, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live. For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself. Luke20:36 ESV/ 21 helpfulvotes Helpful Not Helpful For they cannot dieanymore, because they are equal to angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection. Hebrews 2:14 ESV/ 16 helpfulvotes Helpful Not Helpful
  • 4. Since therefore the children share in flesh and blood, he himself likewise partook of the same things, that through death he might destroy the one who has the power of death, that is, the devil Ecclesiastes 5:15 ESV / 16 helpfulvotes Helpful NotHelpful As he came from his mother'swomb he shall go again, naked as he came, and shall take nothing for his toil that he may carry away in his hand. Psalm 104:29 ESV/ 15 helpfulvotes Helpful NotHelpful When you hide your face, they are dismayed; when you take away their breath, they die and return to their dust. Revelation 20:14 ESV/ 14 helpfulvotes Helpful Not Helpful Then Death and Hades werethrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. John 11:25 ESV/ 12 helpfulvotes Helpful Not Helpful Jesussaid to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, How the wise dies just like the fool! Ecclesiastes 2:14-18 Revelation 20:4-6 ESV/ 11 helpfulvotes Helpful Not Helpful Then I saw thrones, and seated on them werethose to whom the authority to judgewas committed. Also I saw the soulsof those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesusand for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheadsor their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years wereended. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection!Over such the second death has no power, but they will be
  • 5. priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years. ohn 5:24 ESV/ 11 helpfulvotes Helpful Not Helpful Truly, truly, Isay to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life. Luke23:39-43 ESV/11 helpfulvotes Helpful Not Helpful One of the criminals who werehanged railed at him, saying, “Areyou not the Christ? Save yourself and us!” But the other rebuked him, saying, “Do you not fear God, sinceyou are under the same sentence of condemnation? And weindeed justly, for weare receiving the due reward of our deeds; but this man has donenothing wrong.” And he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.” And he said to him, “Truly, I say to you, today you willbe with me in Paradise.” Revelation 2:11 ESV / 10 helpfulvotes Helpful NotHelpful He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. The one who conquerswill not be hurtby the second death.’ John 5:28-29 ESV/ 10 helpfulvotes Helpful NotHelpful Do not marvelat this, for an hour is coming when all who are in the tombs will hear his voice and come out, those who have donegood to the resurrection of life, and those who have doneevil to the resurrection of judgment Revelation 6:8 ESV / 9 helpfulvotes Helpful Not Helpful And I looked, and behold, a pale horse! And its rider'snamewas Death, and Hades followed him. And they were given authority over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword and with famineand with pestilence and by wild beasts of the earth. 1 Thessalonians 4:13-14 ESV/ 9 helpfulvotes Helpful Not Helpful
  • 6. Butwe do not wantyou to be uninformed, brothers, aboutthose who are asleep, that you may not grieve as others do who have no hope. For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep. 1 Corinthians 15:42-44ESV/ 9 helpfulvotes Helpful Not Helpful So is it with the resurrection of the dead. What is sown is perishable; what is raised is imperishable. It is sown in dishonor; it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness; it is raised in power. It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritualbody. If there is a naturalbody, there is also a spiritual body. 1 Corinthians 15:21 ESV/ 9 helpfulvotes Helpful Not Helpful For as by a man came death, by a man has come also the resurrection of the dead. Daniel12:2 ESV / 9 helpfulvotes Helpful Not Helpful And many of those who sleep in the dustof the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. a synopsis of the matter of ‘predestination’. The Latin text of the Catholic Vulgate version has in Romans 8:29–30 and in Ephesians 1:5 and 11 the wordspraedestinavit and praedestinati. Many bible-translators have copied and used those Latin words, in anglicised forms, instead of properly translating the Greek text of the New Testament. This has led to misunderstandings. In the Greek text of those verses, the relevant word is the combination pro- orizĂ´. The part orizĂ´ (horizĂ´) referred to such things as “binding”, “appointing”, “separating”, “marking out by boundaries”, “marking out for oneself”, and so on. In short, the meaning of the four above-mentioned verses is that in the first century, God marked out and separated (chose) for himself a group of people for a special purpose. He set them apart and gave them his Holy Spirit, and betrothed
  • 7. them to his son Jesus. That is what the verb proorizĂ´ refers to, in the Greek text of Romans 8:29–30 and Ephesians 1:5 and 11. Here, it is good to keep in mind that those verses do not talk about people of our day. One must not make the mistake that when one reads the Bible, one thinks that all the “nice” things in that book somehow apply to the reader. For, that simply is not so. One does not become marked out by God and separated for a special destiny, by reading about people who were that. One does not become a saint, by reading about the saints. The saints were a “first-fruits harvest” for God, here on Earth. In what we today view as “end time”, there will be another “harvest”, the great, innumerable multitude. A number of religious writers have talked about “predestination”. That word is found even in many bible-versions. Those things have caused some people to think that nothing can change their fate or destiny. But, what do the words “predestination” and “predestine” or “predestinate” mean? And, more importantly, what does the Greek text of the relevant New Testament passages actually say and mean and refer to? This article takes a closer look at that matter. The origin of the word ‘predestinate’. The passages in question are Romans 8:29 and 30 and Ephesians 1:5 and 11. The reason why many bible-translators have put into those four verses the word “predestinate”, is simply that they have copied that from the Latin text of the Catholic Vulgate version which has praedestinavit and praedestinati in those passages. It appears that the word combination prae-destino was rare in old Latin, but its verb part destino was used in such meanings as “to bind”, “to intend to buy”, “to appoint”, “to choose”, and so on. The relevant word in the Greek text of the New Testament. In the four above-mentioned verses, the Greek NT text has proorizĂ´. That word consists of the preposition pro and the verbhorizĂ´ which in old Greek referred to such things as “binding”, “appointing”, “dividing”, “separating”, “marking out by boundaries”, “marking out for oneself”, and so on.
  • 8. (A note: In old Greek, the meaning of the related noun horizĂ´n was originally “limits”, “a separating circle”.) Those four verses refer to the fact that in the first century, God marked out and separated for himself a group of people, for a special purpose. In short: Romans 8:29–30 and Ephesians 1:5 and 11 refer to people whom God in those days gave his Holy Spirit. They were chosen for something special. They were a spiritual “first-fruits harvest” for God, here on Earth. The passages in question. Here are the four relevant verses. In the parts which are highlighted, the Greek text has the verb proorizĂ´ whose meaning was explained above. Ephesians 1:5 having marked us [a] out beforehand for adoption through Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will (DBY, highlighting and note sign added) Ephesians 1:11 in whom we [a] have also obtained an inheritance, being marked out beforehand according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his own will (DBY, note sign and highlighting added) Romans 8:29 Because whom he has foreknown, he has also predestinated to be conformed to the image of his Son, so that he should be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 But whom he has predestinated, these also he has called; and whom he has called, these also he has justified; but whom he has justified, these also he has glorified. (DBY, highlighting added) a Please note that the words “us” and “we” in Ephesians 1:5 and 11 refer to Paul and the saints whom he was writing to. We who today read a copy of that letter, are not mentioned in it. (Even we are mentioned in some places in the Scriptures, but only indirectly, in regard to still future things. The articles nga020.htm and nga030.htm have some notes on this.) Again: The old Greek verb proorizĂ´ did not really refer to “predestination” but rather to “marking out” and “separating”. The four above-quoted verses refer to the fact that in the first century, God chose and set apart a group of people, for something special.
  • 9. Warnings given to the saints. In New Testament times, and to a degree even before that, God called a number of people to become a part of a very special group, but the called ones were not forced to heed that calling. If they wanted to make it to the Kingdom, they had to hold on to their high calling. See for instance this passage: 2 Peter 1:10 Therefore, brethren, be even more diligent to make your call and electionsure, for if you do these things you will never stumble (NKJV) “If you do these things” – the context shows what those things were: 2 Peter 1:2 Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord, 3 as His divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him who called us by glory and virtue, 4 by which have been given to us exceedingly great and precious promises, that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. 5 But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge, 6 to knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness, 7 to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness love. 8 For if these things are yours and abound, you will be neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 For he who lacks these things is shortsighted, even to blindness, and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his old sins. 10 Therefore, brethren, be even more diligent to make your call and election sure, for if you do these things you will never stumble; 11 for so an entrance will be supplied to you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. (NKJV) “Godliness”, “diligence”, “self-control”, “virtue”, “perseverance”, and more – this shows that the saints could not just sit down and lean back and say, “I am saved” or “I am predestined” – there was also “doing”, for them. Of course, this did not mean that they could “earn” salvation through “works”. God offered them salvation as a free gift, by grace. But, they faced a risk of missing out on that freely offered salvation, if they did not show interest in it or in Jesus who had paid for it. When they were offered that free gift, they had to grab hold of it, and then they had to act and live according to their high calling. If they did that, they would make it to the Kingdom. The apostle Paul wrote in his letter to the saints in Corinth that they had been “bought with a price” (1 Corinthians 6:20 and 7:23). Consequently, he wrote to
  • 10. them, “glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s”. In connection with this, Paul gave a long list of moral guidelines. (See those passages in your bible, along with their wider context.) Also: The saints were to be doing good works. That is a central part of righteousness. The article nga080.htm has some notes on this. The apostle Paul told the disciples in Philippi to keep working toward their salvation. The apostle Paul had been in Philippi and helped and guided the disciples there. When he had left that town and area, he wrote to them that when he was absent, they were to keep working toward their salvation. Philippians 2:12 So then, my dear friends, just as you have always obeyed, not only in my presence, but now even more in my absence, work out your own salvation [b] with fear and trembling. [c] 13 For it is God who is working in you, enabling you both to will and to act for His good purpose. 14 Do everything without grumbling and arguing, 15 so that you may be blameless and pure, children of God who are faultless in a crooked and perverted generation, among whom you shine like stars in the world. 16 Hold firmly the message of life. Then I can boast in the day of Christ that I didn’t run in vain or labor for nothing. (HCSB, note signs added) b “Work out your own salvation” – some translations have “work toward your salvation”, or similar. Point: There was effort to be made. They could not just lean back and say, “we are predestined”, “we are saved”. c The Greek text has the rhyming phrase meta phobou kai tromou whose literal meaning is “with fear and trembling”. It appears that Paul was simply telling those people to “make their calling and election sure”, just as Simon Peter did, see the earlier quoted 2 Peter 1:10. It was God who gave them salvation (lasting life), but they had to hold on to that salvation, and they had to live according to the high calling which God had given them. More, regarding “running the race” towards salvation: Philippians 3:10 My goal is to know Him and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death, 11 assuming that I will somehow reach the resurrection from among the dead. 12 Not that I have already reached the goal or am already fully mature, but I make every
  • 11. effort to take hold of it because I also have been taken hold of by Christ Jesus. 13 Brothers, I do not consider myself to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: forgetting what is behind and reaching forward to what is ahead, 14 I pursue as my goal the prize promised by God’s heavenly call in Christ Jesus. 15 Therefore, all who are mature should think this way. And if you think differently about anything, God will reveal this to you also. (HCSB) Notice Paul’s words, “not that I have already reached the goal”, verse 12. In other words: There was a need for Paul and the saints in general, to keep pressing on, so that they would make it. Things that people might connect to the concept ‘predestination’. There are many things that people might connect to the concept “predestination”. Often, that includes a concept of belonging to an exclusive group, “the elect”, “the chosen ones”, “the first-fruits”, and so on. Some preachers have tickled their followers’ egos, by causing them to think that by following the preacher and joining his church, they became a part of “God’s first-fruits” – a part of “the 144000”, or something similar. But the facts are, of course, that it was the saints [d] who were the “first-fruits”, the 144000 of Revelation 14. It was they who were specially marked out and separated, for a special purpose. (The article nta030.htm has some notes on the 144000 and the great multitude, and the difference between those two groups.) Likewise, some preachers have copied the old Catholic “true church” dogma and modified it and used it for causing people to believe that their church (the preacher’s) is “true”, “original” and “uncorrupted”, “the true church of God”, and that those who follow the preacher and join his church are “the chosen ones”, “the elect”, “predestined”, and so on. But, those things are mind-manipulation through ego-tickling. Again, the facts are that the group whom the New Testament talks about as separated or “marked out” ones, consists of the saints. [d] The article naa010.htm has some notes on the “true church” dogma. The articlenba020.htm takes a closer look at such things as “calling”, “election” and “sanctification”. Then, some preachers have combined the Catholic “true church” dogma with the Baptist, Millerist “church eras” dogma, and applied both things (in modified forms) to their own churches. The article naa030.htm sorts out that matter. d In this article, the word “saints” refers to those who received the Holy Spirit in biblical times, first century CE or earlier. See also the article nga030.htm.
  • 12. Soul, souls  The Bible does not mention such a concept as “immortal soul”. The talk about “immortal souls” appears to be of Catholic origin. Humans are mortal and do not have everlasting life in themselves; that is something they must be given by God.  In numerous bible-passages where English bible-translators have put in the word “soul”, the meaning is “a person”, “an individual”; in some other passages, the meaning is more like “life”, “mind”, or similar. More:  What bible-translators have rendered as “soul”, is often the Hebrew nephesh or the Greek psuchĂŞ. Those words had a wide usage with many different meanings. o The Hebrew word nephesh meant such things as “breath”, “life”, “mind”, “person”, “being”, et cetera. The 1769KJ version translates nephesh in many different ways, such as “soul”, “life”, “person”, “mind”, “heart”, “creature”, “body”, “himself”, “yourselves”, “dead”, “will”, “desire”, “man”, “themselves”, “any” and “appetite”.  A note: The KJV1769 never translates the noun nephesh as “spirit” or “ghost”, except in Job 11:20 and Jeremiah 15:9 where it talks about “giving up the ghost”. (Some versions note in the margin of Job 11:20, “or, a puff of breath”; some others make it to a “sigh”, and so on. In the case of Jeremiah 15:9, there are numerous different interpretations – guesses – as to what the Hebrew wording might have meant, such as “breathe her last”, “gasps for breath”, “her breathing is laboured”, and so on.) o The Greek word psuchĂŞ meant such things as “life”, “breath”, “self” (mind, consciousness), “spirit”. The 1769 KJversion translates it in various ways, such as “life”, “mind”, “heart”, “soul”.  Regarding the root and origin (etymology) of the English word “soul” – etymological lexicons give only dubious explanations, if any. Some note that the word “soul” (Middle English soule, Old English sawol) is related to similar words in other Germanic languages, but that does not lead to the actual root or original meaning of that word. dur: a circle, ball. Original Word: ‫.רּוּד‬
  • 13. Original Word: ‫:.גּוח‬ chug thedevil is a roaring lion, wandering aroundseeking whohe may devour. 1 Peter 5:8 Revelation 12 & Daniel 8 Daniel2 Ten Horns:BlueLetter Bible The belief of life after death IS unbiblical and false. No one is alive right now. Every person is in a unconscious sleep until the resurrection. The problem is you folks carry the pagan idea of necromancy. The dead does not live and they are not communicating with us. Why would Jesus come again and raise the dead from their graves if the dead is already in heaven? Or punish sinners who were already in hell? Why did Jesus call death a sleep? Lazarus was clearly dead but He said that he was asleep. Did Jesus snatch Lazarus from heaven or did He raise him from a dreamless sleep? I propose the latter. Psalm 115:17 The dead do not praise the LORD, Nor do any who go down into silence; Ecclesiastes 9:5- 6 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing, and they have no more reward, for the memory of them is forgotten. Their love and their hate and their envy have already perished, and forever they have no more share in all that is done under the sun. John 11:10-14 After saying these things, he said to them, “Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep, but I go to awaken him.” The disciples said to him, “Lord, if he has fallen asleep, he will recover.” Now Jesus had spoken of his death, but they thought that he meant taking rest in sleep. Then Jesus told them plainly, “Lazarus has died, Even Martha believed that Lazarus would rise at the second coming and that he was not alive or a spirit. "Martha said to him, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection on the last day.” She didn't know that Christ was going to raise him from the dead at that moment but we see where her mind was. Jesus did not deny the resurrection at the Second Coming, nor did he tell her that Lazarus was in a better place. Instead he basically said, "Don't be sad for long, I will raise him up now, as a example of what will happen to those who are redeemed." (I'm obviously paraphrasing lol) The problem is that you all accept the doctrines passed down from Rome. You accept Catholic doctrines even if you aren't Catholic. The Catholic Church is nothing but Roman Paganism hidden under a Christian Garb and Necromancy was a huge pagan ideology. The ONLY time we will ascend into a higher state of being is when Christ returns. But when you die, you die. Period. You are unconscious until the Lord returns. But since the brain is destroyed in death, you will not even know how long you slept when the Lord wakes you. The Lord can come in the year 3030 but to your perception it would seem like a quick minute. Stop believing that when people die they go to heaven or hell. None of that is happening until the Second Coming and the more you embrace these ideas of the dead being alive, the easier the devil can get you into
  • 14. Spiritualistic and demonic doctrines. Spiritualism is nothing but Witchcraft under a Christian garb, and it's only possible because Christians aren't reading the Bible. They believe in the afterlife and that's not good. he trinity doctrine is not biblical. There is one God, The Father. Christ is His only begotten son and therefore divine (God by nature). The spirit belongs to God and not a different person to him. The Holy Spirit = The Spirit of God and Christ John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. The Holy Spirit is not a 3rd God ! called God The Holy Spirit. Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. 2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. Galatians 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth ''THE SPIRIT OF HIS SON'' into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. The Holy Spirit = The Spirit of God and Christ God is God the Father ! Jesus is the only begotten SON OF God (Divine) ! and the Holy Spirit is the spirit of God that reveals all truth. John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. Jesus Christ himself said that His Father is greater than Him. Jesus Christ the Son of God died for our sins ! not God The Father. God The Father cannot die. Deuteronomy 32:39-40 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand. For I lift up my hand to heaven, and say, I live for ever. Psalm 90:2 Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God. Psalm 102:27 But thou art the same, and thy years shall have no end. Zechariah 6:13 “Even he shall build the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.” In this verse it's very clear, the plan of salvation shall be between them both ! 1) God The Father ! 2) Jesus Christ, His only begotten Son ! Two persons ! not 3. John 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. John 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. These verses talk about our Father who is spirit, and we are to worship him in spirit and in truth. Many think that our God is a "mystery" which they call a Trinity. The words of Jesus "Ye know not what ye worship" would apply if our God is a mystery. When we get to heaven, God will not then say "Meet my spirit". We will see God face to face, and we will know him. The Father of Jesus Christ. Ephesians 1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him: Ephesians 1:18 The eyes of your
  • 15. understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints, Catholic Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger (now pope Benedict XVI) makes this confession as to the origin of the chief Trinity text of Matthew 28:19 saying: "The basic form of our (Matthew 28:19 Trinitarian) profession of faith took shape during the course of the second and third centuries in connection with the ceremony of baptism. So far as its place of origin is concerned, the text (Matthew 28:19) came from the city of Rome. The Trinity baptism and text of Matthew 28:19 therefore did not originate from the original Church that started in Jerusalem around 33 A.D. It was rather, as the evidence proves, a later invention of Roman Catholicism completely fabricated. Very few know about these historical facts.” (http://www.askacatholic.com/_webpostings/answers/2012_01JAN/2012JanWhy WereAdjustmentsMade.cfm) The Catholic Encyclopedia, II, page 263: “The baptismal formula was changed from the name of Jesus Christ to the words Father, Son, and Holy Spirit by the Catholic Church in the second century.” The Pagan Roots of the Trinity (Playlist) https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMIW5zbeYAXJ99DQujQqBevz5CFT1Kk FR The Alpha & Omega of Heresy (Playlist) https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMIW5zbeYAXKZxvcSlB- 2Do34YYA4Tdl0 Prove All Things ~ by Nader Mansour (Playlist) https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMIW5zbeYAXIrSDp6MQnrOpMEMF0S WoQz