Holden meets his former student adviser Carl Luce at the Wicker Bar in a fancy hotel. Luce seems bored and anxious to leave, telling Holden to grow up. They discuss sex, though Luce seems uninterested. When Luce leaves, he suggests Holden should see a psychoanalyst, having grown tired of Holden's childish behavior.

1. Catcher in the Rye Chapter 19

2. Wicker Bar Holden is to meet Carl Luce at the Wicker Bar, which is in a very nice hotel. “In case you don't live in New York, the Wicker Bar is in this sort of swanky hotel, the Seton Hotel.

3. The bar often features Tina and Janine, who sing silly songs in French and English. Holden recalls that they are not very talented, but that everyone in the bar gets all excited about the duo. The thought of their phoniness, naturally, bothers Holden.

4. Holden arrives at the Wicker Bar early and manages to find a seat even though it is crowded. It was pretty early when I got there. I sat down at the bar--it was pretty crowded--and had a couple of Scotch and sodas before old Luce even showed up.

5. Carl Luce Carl arrives and begins to drink. Old Luce. What a guy. He was supposed to be my Student Adviser when I was at Whooton.

6. The only thing he ever did, though, was give these sex talks and all, late at night when there was a bunch of guys in his room. He knew quite a bit about sex, especially perverts and all. He was always telling us about a lot of creepy guys that go around having affairs with sheep, and guys that go around with girls' pants sewed in the lining of their hats and all.

7. Luce seems bored and anxious to leave. At several points in the conversation, he tells Holden to grow up and quit being so childish. Holden persists in talking about sex even though Carl seems uninterested. Once again, as with Sally, Holden grows excited while talking and has to be told to lower his volume.

8. When Carl is ready to leave, Holden pleads with him to stay a little longer. Carl, however, has had enough of Holden. As he departs he suggests that Holden should be psychoanalyzed.