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Team Project 2
Importance in evaluating whether a team should 
change one or all of its trademarks: 
Opinions of the represented group 
The history of the represented group 
Public Opinion 
Team‘s outreach efforts to assist represented group 
Opinion of team’s high involvement fans 
Government Opinion 
Owner’s opinion
For each of the teams your group reviews: 
• a) Which, if any, trademarks should the teams 
change: (name, logos, mascot, uniforms, etc.)? 
Why or why not? 
• b) Is there any mascot or fan behavior that 
could be viewed as disrespectful or trivializing 
a culture? If so, how should the team address 
this?
Team #1: Edmonton
Edmonton’s Logo
Edmonton’s Mascots 
Nanook, a polar bear Punter, an angry football
Edmonton’s Uniforms
The Problem? The Name
The Fans
Disrespectful or Trivializing Behavior? 
Couldn’t find anything 
Even Google didn’t come up with anything, after multiple searches this is the worst 
we could find…
The Represented Group: Mixed 
• Jordan Koe (identifies as Inuit and Dene, the indigenous peoples from the Mackenzie Delta where 
his relatives live) 
– Regardless of meaning, Inuit people didn't call themselves Eskimos; the term was applied to them by others. 
– Edmonton's silence over the team's name isn't proof that all Inuit people accept it. Rather, he says, it's 
evidence the city's small Inuit community doesn't have a powerful voice. 
• Koe sees the name as a "black-and-white" issue but concedes some Inuit are ambivalent and others 
are even supporters, including his mom. "She's heavily proud of the Edmonton Eskimos, but there 
are others that find it overtly offensive.” 
About the name: 
• Originally, a term for the Inuit 
• The origins of the word "Eskimo" are believed to be Cree, and it was a term for the Inuit. 
• The vernacular is a slur (eaters of raw meat) while academic research suggests the original is more 
benign (snowshoe maker). 
• The history of the Eskimos name in Edmonton runs incredibly deep; the Edmonton Eskimos name 
outdates all other sports team names now under fire in North America 
• The reason for the name is likely Edmonton's long connection to the North. But as Koe points out, 
to the north of Edmonton reside the Dene and Nehiyaw (Cree), not Inuit. And certainly not Eskimos.
Team, Fans, Politicians, and even a 
former Inuk “Eskimos” Player: No 
Problems 
• Team & CFL: No Debate/Negative Opinions 
– Allan Watt, vice-president of communications & marketing: 
– "We have no backlash from our fans or politicians or any other 
sort…The only people we ever hear from with regard to the name 
'Edmonton Eskimos Football Club' is with people like you — reporters.” 
– The CFL franchise remains sensitive to people who might take offence 
to any portrayal of indigenous people. 
• Former Player & Inuk: No Negative Opinions 
– Dave Ward (Kiviaq), former Eskimos player Dave Ward and club’s first 
Inuk: "I don't know what the problem is with having us called the 
Edmonton Eskimos. It wasn't meant to be derogatory at all. We're 
proud of it and we should be proud of it”
Public Opinions: Mixed 
• Edmonton-based outreach worker and native studies researcher Daniel Johnson 
– ”It's outdated, inaccurate and mostly unaccepted in current discourse, and entirely inappropriate for 
a sports team," 
– "Changing the name of the Eskimos … is simply the right thing to do,” 
– recalled "quite a number of people on social media" demanding an Edmonton CFL team name 
change "over the past couple of years.” 
– Acknowledged many Inuit people will support the name 
• Some argued that while they saw the term "redskin" as a slur, they had no problem with 
the word "Eskimo.” 
– Term has fallen into disfavor in some communities, but it continues to find common usage in others. 
• An Edmonton Sun readers' poll asked readers if they felt the name 'Edmonton Eskimos' was 
racist 
– 6% “Yes” 
– 37% “No” 
– 57% “That’s just Silly”
Our suggestions 
INCLUDE: 
• 4) If a team were forced to change its name 
and/or other trademarks, would the loss of 
brand equity built over the history of the use 
those trademarks create a competitive 
disadvantage for that team? 
– In general 
– For each team
Team #2: Florida State
Florida State’s Logo
Florida State’s Mascots Symbols 
Chief Osceola & Horse Renegade
Florida State’s Uniform
The Name
Mascot & Fan Behavior 
• http://youtu.be/KCXirjEkiOM 
• http://youtu.be/JD-5VshK4Yg 
• Need fan behavior
• 3) Can a name/mascot be a source of pride, honor, and reverence to the people it 
represents, or is it always a culturally insensitive stereotype? Explain. 
– Explain how it is somewhat of a scale: compare eskimos to redskins and other teams 
• Even in eskimos case, there are SOME who don’t like it --- would always be the case when 
representing people rather than inanimate beings 
– Depends on portrayal – the indians stuff is inaccurate and the meaning is negative – if it took a 
positive aspect of their culture and just demonstrated the strength, etc. it could be made to be 
positive, although it usually isnt 
– Either way, it will be a sensitive subject and should be avoided; it is so one-sided that even in 
attempting to show honor, as is a big argument FOR the logos, it can be disparaging to the 
actual people 
• Think if someone used YOUR religion to be the name/mascot and how it would ultimately not be 
portrayed accurately, and either way would be insulting – because it is so much more than a sports 
team 
• Other groups of people ALWAYS see you differently than you perceive yourselves--- there is no way 
stereotypes and bias wont enter the equation somehow, even if it is not meant to be negative 
• Would it be okay to have the jews with menorah (something sacred) and stereotypes ($$) ??? Or, as 
the redskins is a negative name, the N-word??? Absolutely not!!! Even if portraying how strong they 
are and emphasizing the history, as it is said to be done with the indians
• 4) If a team were forced to change its name and/or other 
trademarks, would the loss of brand equity built over the history of 
the use those trademarks create a competitive disadvantage for 
that team? 
– Talk briefly about the negatives but then go to show the positives and 
how if it is done correctly to show respect, it will be seen as a positive 
and will possibly be an advantage 
– Chance to reinvent and come out stronger; with proper research to 
find the most well-received name, it would not be a negative 
– Take the money they would spend on lawsuits, etc. and put it towards 
the research to build a better brand 
– Do it early and set an example, get positive press, and build a positive 
image or do it later, after other teams do, and it is come to be 
expected then there wont be negative backlash 
– Other aspects of brand equity more important – stress that it is still 
the same team, but now you are REALLY honoring the people
• 5) In your group’s opinion, is it ever ok for a 
team to have a name/mascot that is based on 
a specific group of people? When is it OK and 
when is it not OK? Are there varying levels of 
offensiveness? Explain. 
– Yes there are varying levels of offensiveness; 
compare eskimos to redskins, etc. but that it is 
still, like in the last slide, offensive to some degree 
and should not be used.

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  • 2. Importance in evaluating whether a team should change one or all of its trademarks: Opinions of the represented group The history of the represented group Public Opinion Team‘s outreach efforts to assist represented group Opinion of team’s high involvement fans Government Opinion Owner’s opinion
  • 3. For each of the teams your group reviews: • a) Which, if any, trademarks should the teams change: (name, logos, mascot, uniforms, etc.)? Why or why not? • b) Is there any mascot or fan behavior that could be viewed as disrespectful or trivializing a culture? If so, how should the team address this?
  • 6. Edmonton’s Mascots Nanook, a polar bear Punter, an angry football
  • 10. Disrespectful or Trivializing Behavior? Couldn’t find anything Even Google didn’t come up with anything, after multiple searches this is the worst we could find…
  • 11.
  • 12. The Represented Group: Mixed • Jordan Koe (identifies as Inuit and Dene, the indigenous peoples from the Mackenzie Delta where his relatives live) – Regardless of meaning, Inuit people didn't call themselves Eskimos; the term was applied to them by others. – Edmonton's silence over the team's name isn't proof that all Inuit people accept it. Rather, he says, it's evidence the city's small Inuit community doesn't have a powerful voice. • Koe sees the name as a "black-and-white" issue but concedes some Inuit are ambivalent and others are even supporters, including his mom. "She's heavily proud of the Edmonton Eskimos, but there are others that find it overtly offensive.” About the name: • Originally, a term for the Inuit • The origins of the word "Eskimo" are believed to be Cree, and it was a term for the Inuit. • The vernacular is a slur (eaters of raw meat) while academic research suggests the original is more benign (snowshoe maker). • The history of the Eskimos name in Edmonton runs incredibly deep; the Edmonton Eskimos name outdates all other sports team names now under fire in North America • The reason for the name is likely Edmonton's long connection to the North. But as Koe points out, to the north of Edmonton reside the Dene and Nehiyaw (Cree), not Inuit. And certainly not Eskimos.
  • 13. Team, Fans, Politicians, and even a former Inuk “Eskimos” Player: No Problems • Team & CFL: No Debate/Negative Opinions – Allan Watt, vice-president of communications & marketing: – "We have no backlash from our fans or politicians or any other sort…The only people we ever hear from with regard to the name 'Edmonton Eskimos Football Club' is with people like you — reporters.” – The CFL franchise remains sensitive to people who might take offence to any portrayal of indigenous people. • Former Player & Inuk: No Negative Opinions – Dave Ward (Kiviaq), former Eskimos player Dave Ward and club’s first Inuk: "I don't know what the problem is with having us called the Edmonton Eskimos. It wasn't meant to be derogatory at all. We're proud of it and we should be proud of it”
  • 14. Public Opinions: Mixed • Edmonton-based outreach worker and native studies researcher Daniel Johnson – ”It's outdated, inaccurate and mostly unaccepted in current discourse, and entirely inappropriate for a sports team," – "Changing the name of the Eskimos … is simply the right thing to do,” – recalled "quite a number of people on social media" demanding an Edmonton CFL team name change "over the past couple of years.” – Acknowledged many Inuit people will support the name • Some argued that while they saw the term "redskin" as a slur, they had no problem with the word "Eskimo.” – Term has fallen into disfavor in some communities, but it continues to find common usage in others. • An Edmonton Sun readers' poll asked readers if they felt the name 'Edmonton Eskimos' was racist – 6% “Yes” – 37% “No” – 57% “That’s just Silly”
  • 15. Our suggestions INCLUDE: • 4) If a team were forced to change its name and/or other trademarks, would the loss of brand equity built over the history of the use those trademarks create a competitive disadvantage for that team? – In general – For each team
  • 18. Florida State’s Mascots Symbols Chief Osceola & Horse Renegade
  • 21. Mascot & Fan Behavior • http://youtu.be/KCXirjEkiOM • http://youtu.be/JD-5VshK4Yg • Need fan behavior
  • 22. • 3) Can a name/mascot be a source of pride, honor, and reverence to the people it represents, or is it always a culturally insensitive stereotype? Explain. – Explain how it is somewhat of a scale: compare eskimos to redskins and other teams • Even in eskimos case, there are SOME who don’t like it --- would always be the case when representing people rather than inanimate beings – Depends on portrayal – the indians stuff is inaccurate and the meaning is negative – if it took a positive aspect of their culture and just demonstrated the strength, etc. it could be made to be positive, although it usually isnt – Either way, it will be a sensitive subject and should be avoided; it is so one-sided that even in attempting to show honor, as is a big argument FOR the logos, it can be disparaging to the actual people • Think if someone used YOUR religion to be the name/mascot and how it would ultimately not be portrayed accurately, and either way would be insulting – because it is so much more than a sports team • Other groups of people ALWAYS see you differently than you perceive yourselves--- there is no way stereotypes and bias wont enter the equation somehow, even if it is not meant to be negative • Would it be okay to have the jews with menorah (something sacred) and stereotypes ($$) ??? Or, as the redskins is a negative name, the N-word??? Absolutely not!!! Even if portraying how strong they are and emphasizing the history, as it is said to be done with the indians
  • 23. • 4) If a team were forced to change its name and/or other trademarks, would the loss of brand equity built over the history of the use those trademarks create a competitive disadvantage for that team? – Talk briefly about the negatives but then go to show the positives and how if it is done correctly to show respect, it will be seen as a positive and will possibly be an advantage – Chance to reinvent and come out stronger; with proper research to find the most well-received name, it would not be a negative – Take the money they would spend on lawsuits, etc. and put it towards the research to build a better brand – Do it early and set an example, get positive press, and build a positive image or do it later, after other teams do, and it is come to be expected then there wont be negative backlash – Other aspects of brand equity more important – stress that it is still the same team, but now you are REALLY honoring the people
  • 24. • 5) In your group’s opinion, is it ever ok for a team to have a name/mascot that is based on a specific group of people? When is it OK and when is it not OK? Are there varying levels of offensiveness? Explain. – Yes there are varying levels of offensiveness; compare eskimos to redskins, etc. but that it is still, like in the last slide, offensive to some degree and should not be used.

Editor's Notes

  1. After showing each trademark, put an x or check or something over it to say if its okay or not…… maybe ask the class what they think
  2. http://mlblogsbaseballsnatcher.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/edmonton_eskimos20logo.jpg
  3. http://www.esks.com/page/mascot_bios
  4. Uniforms: http://www.snowandmud.com/sports-chat-238/edmonton-eskimos-release-their-signature-series-92670.html http://www.edmontonsun.com/2014/09/02/edmonton-eskimos-unveil-signature-jersey
  5. http://www.myclients.ca/webedit/customers/sawmill/newsletters/july/july.htm ALSO CALLED THE ESKS The “ESKS” Official Site: http://www.esks.com/
  6. No disparaging pictures found on google NO negative merch that I could find
  7. Even a google search resulted in nothing – in fact what came up was the redskins logo!!
  8. Esks.com Their values, etc. --- tie in to our recommendations and if there are any disrespectful behaviors that come up how they should address them!! Talk about their lack of association with eskimos other than the name and how since there isnt a big identification with the name that changing it wouldn’t be a HUGE deal – they could still do something similar??
  9. http://www2.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/opinion/story.html?id=6a410474-6395-47d0-b1e0-a1046a1ab403&p=2
  10. http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/washington-redskins-fight-could-put-pressure-on-edmonton-eskimos-1.2680161
  11. Conclusion: There seems to be no real controversy surrounding the Eskimos name Poll: http://brushtalk.blogspot.com/2012/05/why-do-racist-sports-team-names-persist.html Everything else: http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/washington-redskins-fight-could-put-pressure-on-edmonton-eskimos-1.2680161
  12. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_State_Seminoles
  13. Good article & first pic: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/seminoles-nickname-not-problem-florida-state 2nd pic & more info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osceola_and_Renegade Quote: Florida State University officials disapprove of referring to human figures as 'mascots' and have asked sports writers to cease doing so. Official university statements speak only of using 'symbols', 'nicknames', and 'images' inspired by Seminole tradition. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_mascot_controversy
  14. Nike worked with Florida State to redefine their Seminole logo after meeting with the Seminole Tribe of Florida. http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2014-04-11/florida-state-seminoles-new-uniforms-nike-fsu-garnet-logo
  15. http://newsradio1620.com/new/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Seminoles.jpg
  16. http://americanindiantah.com/lesson_plans/ml_mascots.html Compare native americans to african americans: the R-word and the N-word; that alone makes it appalling and absolutely unacceptable; uncomfortable even referencing the name not to mention some of the symbols used to represent them innaccurately……