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6 p.part 2 dev ireg touch training - installation & set-up - webex intercall telephone conference training
1. Welcome to the Training
Please do a little trick which helps us to see your name when you speak:
1. Click on the tab Meeting Info on the top of the screen
2. Find the Attendee ID
3. Type the ID into your phone – first the #, then the number, then #
Today’s Agenda:
Welcome to the session
Session start: 10:00 AM
Who is who?
Break as needed
Practicalities
Session end: 12:00 AM
Training
Summary and evaluation
Your trainer today:
John Haugsted Outzen
Technical Product Manager, Indoor Applications
Danfoss A/S
Electric Heating Systems
Tel.: +45 74 88 85 88
Mobile +45 25 26 47 99
E-mail: jho@danfoss.com
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2. Practicalities
Please turn off email, instant messaging and mute your
phone when you are not speaking: Mute and un-mute: *6
If you have to leave the session, please send a note to the
trainer when you leave and when you return
Raise your hand if you have an immediate question or
comment.
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3. DEVIreg™ Touch – Installation & Set-up
devi.com
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4. Participants
Kimmo Nuortila Anton Sarbinov Dejan Velickovic Kim Johansen Hartmut Hoppe
Area Sales, Technical Sales Assistant External Sales Sales Consultant Technical Manager
HS-SS/Finland HS-S/BG HS-S/CS HS-S/NO HS-SFH/DE
Milan Poqacar Roland Ipacs Vera Bardarova Martin O’Hara
Karsten Hertel
Internal Technical Support Technical Support Sales Manager HEC/HES Business Dev. Manager
Comm. Prod. Manager
HS-S/SI HS-S/Hungary HS-S/BG HS-S/UK
EH-M
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6. DEVIreg™ Touch Training
1. Different ways to setup
2. Easy and remote trouble shooting
3. Warranty and Claim Handling
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7. Different ways to setup
Setup Wizard
Code Support Interface
Floor Heating and Comfort
Temperature Offset
Safety with wooden floors
Floor Comfort Temperatures
Room Temperatures
Value Selling
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8. Different ways to setup
Setup Wizard
Relevant setpoints are based on the application
Regulations type
Room type
Floor type
Output
Do it
Physically on the product
Virtually on the product via app, PC
Tranfer via code
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9. Setup wizard
Generate System code
Virtually via APP
To DEVIreg Touch
From DEVIreg Touch
Code support
Interface
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11. Different ways to setup
Code support Interface
Extended web interface
for fully flexible configuration (output code)
For trouble shooting on distance (input code)
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12. Different ways to setup
Code support Interface
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13. Types of regulations
Floor + room
Controls room temperature
Controls min. and max. floor temperature
Floor
Controls floor temperature only (not room temperature)
Sensor temperature is displayed (not scale)
Room
Controls room temperature only
Break out wire on PCB in front part
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14. Different ways to setup
Floor Heating and Comfort
Floor Comfort Temperatures defined in ISO 7730
Thermal conductivity of the floor material
Specific heat of the floor material
Footwear
The variable setpoints are build in the setup wizard!
• Textiles (rugs) 21 to 28 ℃
• Pine floor 22,5 to 28 ℃
• Oak floor 24,5 to 28 ℃
• Hard linoleum 24 to 28 ℃
• Concrete 26 to 28,5 ℃
• Acceptable ISO 7730 19 to 29 ℃
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15. Different ways to setup
Floor Heating and Comfort
Minimum floor temperature
Limit to ensure a certain comfort temperature on the floor.
despite room temperature is above set point.
Min. comfort temperatures varies with the floor material
Present in combi regulation systems only.
The minimum setpoints are build in the wizard!
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16. Different ways to setup
Temperature Offset
Sensor temp. > Surface temp.
Depending on thermal resistance in
the floor Wood
RUp
Depending by the average output Concrete
ΔT = Qup x Rup
RDown
Gypsum
ΔT = 30 W/m² x 0,2 m²K/W
ΔT = 6K (example)
This offset are build in the wizard!
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17. Different ways to setup
Safety with wood floors
Limit to avoid destruction of wood
Delaminating, desiccation etc.
Floor manufactures specify max.
27-28C at the surface
33C at sensor due to offset
Max. temperatures are build in the wizard!
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18. Different ways to setup
Floor Comfort Temperatures
Comfort Economy Max. Min.
Temperature temp. temp. temp temp.
(target) setpoint setpoint setpoint setpoint
Surface Sensor Sensor Sensor Sensor
Tiles 25-26 27 20 35 23
Hardwood 23-24 25 20 33 22
Laminate 22-23 24 20 33 21
Carpet 21-22 23 20 35 20
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19. Different ways to setup
Room Temperatures
Comfort Economy
Temp. Temp.
Seetings Settings
Bathroom 23 17
Kitchen 20 17
Living Room 21 17
Bed Room 19 17
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20. Fast and accurate setup
Features
Setup via wizard according to room and floor
type
Overview and confirmation of setup done
Benefits
No need to be a floor comfort expert
Settings always matching room and floor type
Protects wooden floors from drying out
Example (Cost of replacing a wooden floors)
Value Quantification
Customer Value €
Price per m² 70 EUR/m²
170 €
Labour per m² for repairing 2 hours/m²
Labour cost per hour 50 EUR/hour
Saved cost per damaged floor 170 EUR/m²
per squaremeter
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21. Fast and accurate setup
Features
Multiple setup of thermostats via code
Benefits
Faster setup in multiple installation without
mistakes
Example (Faster setup)
Value Quantification
Customer Value €
Time to do customized setup of competitor 3 min
Time to setup DEVIreg Touch via code 0,5 min
21 €
Price per working hour 50
EUR/hour
Saved labour cost per 10 thermostats 21 EUR
for 10 thermostats
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22. Fast and accurate setup
Features
Standard timer program integrated
Intuitive and flowing user interface in local
language with clear icons, help text and feedback.
Customized timer program optional via
Intuitive timer menu with fully flexible day and time
pattern
Import code generated on the web
Benefits
Correct timer setup is easily done and altered
Setup can be done before installation
by or together with end user
Less call backs from unhappy end users
Example (Less call backs)
Value Quantification
Customer Value €
Time used with call backs 15 minutes
12 €
Price per working hour 50 EUR/hour
Saved cost per call back 12.5 EUR
per call back
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23. Easy and remote troubleshooting
Reset possibilities
Overview of setting / code in thermostat
Patented read-out and read-in of setup code
Import and troubleshoot on website
Value Selling
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24. Different ways to setup
Reset possibilities
Factory reset
Power up (e.g. mount front part) while holding
short cut button for 5 seconds
Soft reset
Set of settings generated from wizard (or
imported) at the initial setup
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25. Easy and remote troubleshooting
Overview of settings
Finding the setup code in the thermostat
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26. Easy and remote troubleshooting
Patented read-out and read-in of setup code
A code is corresponding a heating system –
can be read out from a thermostat
The new code is entered The code is entered into a
into a thermostat software program e.g. on
a PC or via App
The program now simulates same
heating system and can be altered
and a new code is generated
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27. Easy and remote troubleshooting
Import and troubleshoot on website
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28. Easy and remote troubleshooting
Expected typical faults
Thermostat overheat
“?”
Faulty internal sensors
“Unrecoverable error”
Faulty sensors
“Sensor short circuit”
“Sensor disconnected”
Code Support Interface
Temperature settings
Code Support Interface
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29. Easy and remote troubleshooting
Features
Settings overview and soft reset in thermostat
Settings from thermostat can be
exported/imported via code
Settings can be fixed on website and
implemented by distance via code
Benefits
Remote troubleshooting on distance or by 3rd
party
Less customer visits
Example (Cost of a customer visit)
Value Quantification
Customer Value €
Time for visit 2 hours
125 €
Labour cost per hour 50 EUR/hour
Driving costs 0,5 EUR/km
Distance 50 km
per customer visit
Total cost of customer visit 125 EUR
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30. Warranty and Claim Handling
5 year product warranty
Battery lifetime
Hassle free delivery of replacement product
Value Selling
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31. Warranty and Claim Handling
5 years product warranty
Present market standard is 2-3 years but DEVI raise
the level to 5 years
In some countries thermostats are considered as a
part of the building construction
5 years warranty becomes a legal requirement
End users tend to look at the whole system rather
than cables + thermostat
expect a longer lifetime than e.g. a DVD player
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32. Warranty and Claim Handling
5 years product warranty
Present market standard is 2-3 years but DEVI raise
the level to 5 years
Not all installers do neccesarily like the longer
lifetime due to the hassle related to this
DEVI introduce hassle free delivery of
replacement product
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33. Warranty and Claim Handling
Battery lifetime
DEVIreg 550 problems
A soldering process overheated and discharged the
batteries during production (problem solved)
Tariff systems in part of Eastern Europe cuts of the
power to the thermostat 2x per day
The battery is discharged faster
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34. Warranty and Claim Handling
Battery lifetime
Examples with power cuts discharging 1%
Battery is 100% charged
Life time, approx. 30.000 times
Battery is 98% charged
Life time, approx. 6000 times
Battery fully discharged
Life time, approx. 50 times
Charging time on the last few percent is very long.
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35. Warranty and Claim Handling
Battery lifetime
Batteries shall when installing first time be charged the first day
without power cuts.
Battery is afterwards able to withstand continuous
power cuts of 1x a day of max. 14 hours continuously
discharging for about 10 years
or 2x a day of 7 hours…..etc.
As the cycle of power cuts in each market are very individual,
so it is best not to “promise somebody the moon”……but
instead send a request first.
Otherwise the supply for the thermostat has to be separated
from the supply to heating elements via contactor in switchboard
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36. Warranty and Claim Handling
Hassle free delivery of replacement product
Web based automated replacement system
Installer can claim for a new thermostat directly
http://devi.danfoss.com/Professional/Products/DEVIreg-Touch/Complaint-
Application
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37. Warranty and Claim Handling
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38. Markets best warranty
Features
5 years product warranty
Web based automated replacement system
Installer can claim for a new thermostat directly
Benefits
The best warranty in the market
No driving between wholesaler and end user
Max 48 hour delivery time
Example (Savings of preparing a replacement)
Value Quantification
Customer Value €
Price of new product 200 EUR
225 €
Labour cost per hour 50 EUR/hour
Time for driving to wholesaler 0,5 hours
Total cost of preparation 225 EUR
per replacement
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