Bloggers vs. Journalists:It’s a Psychological Thing     Twitter hashtag: #bvj          Jay Rosen (jayrosen_nyu)           ...
Twitter hashtag: #bvg                    Twitter hashtag: #bvg
“I did not want topreserve, I wanted to to preserve, I wanted to      “I did not want             facts.”destroy the facts...
It should be over                    Twitter hashtag: #bvg
The ideal “other”                    Twitter hashtag: #bvg
“A lot of bloggers seem to be socially inadequate, pimpled, single, slightly seedy,bald, cauliflower-nosed young men sitti...
“Citizen journalism is the spewings andrantings of very drunk people late at night.”                               Andrew ...
“They” let themselves go                Twitter hashtag: #bvg
“I think I have an unnatural obsession  with and hatred of the editor of the                (Columbus) Dispatch.”         ...
“Bloggers, on the other hand, representnothing. They whinge, carp, and whine about      our role in society, yet they cont...
Twitter hashtag: #bvg
“Note to Ben Marrison: if you want to   pretend that you are somehow better thanbloggers because you are less biased and l...
“No amount of random blogging and gotchavideos can replace the journalism that keeps   a government accountable to its peo...
"Chicago Tribune reporters work in difficult  and sometimes dangerous conditions. Theydo not blog from mommys basement, cu...
What do they have against basements, anyway?                              CC 2.0 licensed photo by crazytales562, flickr.c...
grumbling about bloggers these days istantamount to yelling at the neighborhoodkids to get off your lawn. It makes you loo...
What would be nice tohave in there (and Imnot sure if anyonestate it openly) is if ajournalist said, YES! Iwould love to w...
“Really good print journalism is ego-free.”                          Marc Ambinder,                          National Jour...
I dont buy into the widespread delusion thatlegions of bloggers, compulsive twitterers or   facebookers amount to a replac...
Bloggers start out with a right to voice                               Twitter hashtag: #bvg
The sad truth is that the Washington Post, in its general desperation for page views, now      hires people who came up in...
"Bloggers will write that their mother loves       them. Journalists will check it out."                         Steve Woo...
Un-professionalism as a badge of pride                             Twitter hashtag: #bvg
"Bloggers include political hacks, conspiracy theorists, and                  40 year old guys with an obsession about Jar...
Its one Internet, one news system. Bloggers                          arent “outside” it.                                  ...
Innocence is power          Twitter hashtag: #bvg
“Journalism v. blogging is a nonissue -- the                  issue is owned vs. free.”                                Gre...
When you claim press corruption: “You just      slapped ever every journalist who hasuncovered corruption, died on a battl...
“Doesnt the distinction between bloggers  and journalists boil down to resources?”                           Maureen Ogle ...
What makes it journalism? Copy editors.                        H/T David Cole,                           newsinc.net      ...
“A blog is the unedited voice of a person.”                               Dave Winer                                 Twitt...
“A blog is the unedited voice of a person.”                              - Dave Winer                                     ...
“There seems to be no end to argument in                            your world.”                               Bill Keller...
Long ago (the 20s and 30s) they were forced    to give up their voice in return for steady     employment, institutional p...
“Objectivity as ideology was a kind of                  industrial discipline.”                     Michael Schudson     “...
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Saturday 3/12, 3:30 PM

SXSW 2011

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  1. 1. Bloggers vs. Journalists:It’s a Psychological Thing Twitter hashtag: #bvj Jay Rosen (jayrosen_nyu) with assistance from Lisa Williams, Placeblogger.com (@lisawilliams) Twitter hashtag: #bvg
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  3. 3. “I did not want topreserve, I wanted to to preserve, I wanted to “I did not want facts.”destroy the facts.” destroy the facts…” Lincoln Steffens Twitter hashtag: #bvg
  4. 4. It should be over Twitter hashtag: #bvg
  5. 5. The ideal “other” Twitter hashtag: #bvg
  6. 6. “A lot of bloggers seem to be socially inadequate, pimpled, single, slightly seedy,bald, cauliflower-nosed young men sitting in their basements and ranting.” Andrew Marr, former political editor, BBC host, Andrew Marr Show Twitter hashtag: #bvg
  7. 7. “Citizen journalism is the spewings andrantings of very drunk people late at night.” Andrew Marr Twitter hashtag: #bvg
  8. 8. “They” let themselves go Twitter hashtag: #bvg
  9. 9. “I think I have an unnatural obsession with and hatred of the editor of the (Columbus) Dispatch.” “teet,” a blogger Twitter hashtag: #bvg
  10. 10. “Bloggers, on the other hand, representnothing. They whinge, carp, and whine about our role in society, yet they contribute nothing to it, other than satisfying their juvenile egos.” Editor’s column, Townsville Bulletin Queensland, Australia Twitter hashtag: #bvg
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  12. 12. “Note to Ben Marrison: if you want to pretend that you are somehow better thanbloggers because you are less biased and less lazy, you might consider actually NOT being both lazy and biased. Don’t you know that’s our job? Joseph Mismas, plunderbund.com Twitter hashtag: #bvg
  13. 13. “No amount of random blogging and gotchavideos can replace the journalism that keeps a government accountable to its people.” Connie Schulz, Cleveland Plain Dealer Twitter hashtag: #bvg
  14. 14. "Chicago Tribune reporters work in difficult and sometimes dangerous conditions. Theydo not blog from mommys basement, cuttingand pasting what others have reported, while putting it under a cute pen name on the Internet.” John Kass, Chicago Tribune Twitter hashtag: #bvg
  15. 15. What do they have against basements, anyway? CC 2.0 licensed photo by crazytales562, flickr.c Twitter hashtag: #bvg
  16. 16. grumbling about bloggers these days istantamount to yelling at the neighborhoodkids to get off your lawn. It makes you lookreally, really old Julie Di Caro, Chicago Now CC 2.0 licensed photo by firexbrat, flickr.com Twitter hashtag: #bvg
  17. 17. What would be nice tohave in there (and Imnot sure if anyonestate it openly) is if ajournalist said, YES! Iwould love to writewith recklessabandon the way thebloggers do. Id like toprint it out and post iton my refrigerator."Anna Tarkov Twitter hashtag: #bvg
  18. 18. “Really good print journalism is ego-free.” Marc Ambinder, National Journal Twitter hashtag: #bvg
  19. 19. I dont buy into the widespread delusion thatlegions of bloggers, compulsive twitterers or facebookers amount to a replacement for journalism. Frédéric Filloux, Liberation, Paris Twitter hashtag: #bvg
  20. 20. Bloggers start out with a right to voice Twitter hashtag: #bvg
  21. 21. The sad truth is that the Washington Post, in its general desperation for page views, now hires people who came up in journalismwithout much adult supervision, and without the proper amount of toilet-training." Anonymous comment, Washingtonpost.com Twitter hashtag: #bvg
  22. 22. "Bloggers will write that their mother loves them. Journalists will check it out." Steve Woodward, Nozzl.com Twitter hashtag: #bvg
  23. 23. Un-professionalism as a badge of pride Twitter hashtag: #bvg
  24. 24. "Bloggers include political hacks, conspiracy theorists, and 40 year old guys with an obsession about Jar-Jar Binks." - Bob Bird, Boone Examinerphoto: Twitter hashtag: #bvgIstolethetv
  25. 25. Its one Internet, one news system. Bloggers arent “outside” it. Twitter hashtag: #bvg
  26. 26. Innocence is power Twitter hashtag: #bvg
  27. 27. “Journalism v. blogging is a nonissue -- the issue is owned vs. free.” Greg Bean Twitter hashtag: #bvg
  28. 28. When you claim press corruption: “You just slapped ever every journalist who hasuncovered corruption, died on a battlefield,or attended a city council meeting on YOUR behalf in the face.” "Functional Pages," commenting on Pressthink.org Twitter hashtag: #bvg
  29. 29. “Doesnt the distinction between bloggers and journalists boil down to resources?” Maureen Ogle author, Ambitious Brew Twitter hashtag: #bvg
  30. 30. What makes it journalism? Copy editors. H/T David Cole, newsinc.net Twitter hashtag: #bvg
  31. 31. “A blog is the unedited voice of a person.” Dave Winer Twitter hashtag: #bvg
  32. 32. “A blog is the unedited voice of a person.” - Dave Winer Twitter hashtag: #bvg
  33. 33. “There seems to be no end to argument in your world.” Bill Keller Twitter hashtag: #bvg
  34. 34. Long ago (the 20s and 30s) they were forced to give up their voice in return for steady employment, institutional power, social position, and workplace peace. Twitter hashtag: #bvg
  35. 35. “Objectivity as ideology was a kind of industrial discipline.” Michael Schudson “Why Democracies Need an Unlovable Press” H/T Megan Garber, NiemanLab Twitter hashtag: #bvg
  36. 36. Thanks!@jayrosen_nyu Twitter hashtag: #bvg
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