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Internal Auditor’s Role
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Presenters
André Auger, CGA, CFE
Government Services Advisor
aauger@welchllp.com
www.welchllp.com
Twitter: @andreauger
ca.linkedin.com/in/andreauger

Colin Stobo, CA, IFA
Consultant, Cobo Accounting Services Ltd.
cstobo@rogers.com
ca.linkedin.com/in/cstobo
Introduction
• The role of the internal auditor is increasingly

complex.
• Changes have been coming at a rapid pace
since the implementation of the New Policy on
Internal Audit in 2006.
• Expectations are high and varied.
• Not limited to fraud: also includes inappropriate
transactions, weak internal controls, lack of
oversight, due diligence.
Introduction
• In this webinar, we will provide you with live examples
encountered by Colin & André.
• For each of the 4 examples, we will provide:
o Description of the situation
o Where breakdown occurred
o What could have been done to prevent

the breach
o How IA can help
Example 1 – Petty Cash
Description :
•

Petty at multiple locations

•

An employee would administer petty cash &
prepare the reimbursement request

•

A manager would review the supporting

documentation & approve request by signing it
•

Employee would fax/email pdf of approval sheet
only to accounting
Example 1 – Petty Cash
• Employee used a photocopy of the

signature block and used it for additional
reimbursement requests
• The employee made false claims of over
60K over 3 years
• This was identified by internal audit in
the spring of 2012
Example 1 – Petty Cash
Where Breakdown Occurred:
• The approval process – it was a manual
process, allowing the employee to
fax/pdf the approval to accounting
without accounting ever seeing the
original documentation
• Accounting did not perform a second

layer of review
Example 1 – Petty Cash
What could have been done:
•

Automate the process

•

Require submission of actual documentation

•

Regular internal audits of the petty cash

How could IA help
•

Process and Procedure Review

•

Perform audits

•

Train staff and organization about red flags
Example 2 – Expenses
Background:
•

Questions were raised about the reasonableness
of a government agency’s CFO expenses

•

The CFO incurred approximately 100K in travel
expenses per year

•

Travel policy was very lax in terms of what
could/couldn’t be claimed & what documentation
needed to be submitted to support the expense

•

Items purchased were not allowed under policy but

were approved by CEO
Example 2 – Expenses
• Limited information was provided with
expense claims
• It was impossible to determine if the

expenses were incurred for the benefit of the
agency
Example 2 – Expenses
Where Breakdown Occurred:
• Approval process - Accounting took
the view that if approved by CEO

they could not question expenses &
didn’t perform 2nd level of review
• Policies lacked guidance
Example 2 – Expenses
What could have been done:
• Tone at the top
• Proper vetting of executive level
expenses

• Adequate policies that provide
detailed guidance on expenses and
require detailed support
Example 3 – Unacceptable
Procurement Process
Description:

• The Real Property Department has worked
with a minimum of 3 suppliers to have
fictitious invoices issued & processed for
payment of materials for funded projects.
• Intent was to avoid lapsing of Crown funding.
• No evidence that individuals benefitted
personally, hence could not conclude that a
fraud had occurred.
Example 3 – Unacceptable
Procurement Process
Where Breakdown Occurred
• 3 individuals were terminated. Dealings with
the 3 suppliers were suspended.

• Breakdown resulted from a lack of controls
and oversight pertaining to delegation of
authorities.
Example 3 – Unacceptable
Procurement Process
What could have been done:

• clear delegations of authorities (signing
thresholds), training of Finance staff, testing
of cut-off at Y/E by Finance, confirmation of
Y/E fund balances with the provider of funds.
Example 4 – Misuse of Acquisition
Cards & Contracts
Description:
• CEO of an Agency used a corporate credit
card for personal use & gave himself a
salary increase by amending his
employment contract without proper Board
approval.
Example 4 – Misuse of Acquisition
Cards & Contracts
Where Breakdown Occurred

• Staff were directed to process payments &
contract amendments.
• CEO was dismissed; restitution agreement
was signed and all monies were returned.
Example 4 – Misuse of Acquisition
Cards & Contracts
What could have been done:
• What could have been done: proper
delegation of authorities, whistleblowing
mechanisms in place, fraud hotline.
Red Flags – What to watch for
Limited or no documentation, including access
Poor or inconsistent documentation
Extensive use of spreadsheets
Limited or lack of oversight
Tone at the top
Under resourced organization
Staff turnover

Custom IT systems, electronic signatures
Q&A
André Auger, CGA, CFE
Government Services Advisor
aauger@welchllp.com
www.welchllp.com
Twitter: @andreauger
ca.linkedin.com/in/andreauger

Colin Stobo, CA, IFA
Consultant, Cobo Accounting Services Ltd.
cstobo@rogers.com
ca.linkedin.com/in/cstobo

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Role of Internal Auditor & Preventing Fraud

  • 1. Welcome to Today’s Webinar: & the Internal Auditor’s Role
  • 2. Ground Rules Questions Windows • • • • Mac Tablet Attendees are in listen-only mode This webinar is being recorded for future on-demand playback Your participation represents acknowledgement that we are recording Tweet questions & comments to: #WelchAudit
  • 3. Presenters André Auger, CGA, CFE Government Services Advisor aauger@welchllp.com www.welchllp.com Twitter: @andreauger ca.linkedin.com/in/andreauger Colin Stobo, CA, IFA Consultant, Cobo Accounting Services Ltd. cstobo@rogers.com ca.linkedin.com/in/cstobo
  • 4. Introduction • The role of the internal auditor is increasingly complex. • Changes have been coming at a rapid pace since the implementation of the New Policy on Internal Audit in 2006. • Expectations are high and varied. • Not limited to fraud: also includes inappropriate transactions, weak internal controls, lack of oversight, due diligence.
  • 5. Introduction • In this webinar, we will provide you with live examples encountered by Colin & André. • For each of the 4 examples, we will provide: o Description of the situation o Where breakdown occurred o What could have been done to prevent the breach o How IA can help
  • 6. Example 1 – Petty Cash Description : • Petty at multiple locations • An employee would administer petty cash & prepare the reimbursement request • A manager would review the supporting documentation & approve request by signing it • Employee would fax/email pdf of approval sheet only to accounting
  • 7. Example 1 – Petty Cash • Employee used a photocopy of the signature block and used it for additional reimbursement requests • The employee made false claims of over 60K over 3 years • This was identified by internal audit in the spring of 2012
  • 8. Example 1 – Petty Cash Where Breakdown Occurred: • The approval process – it was a manual process, allowing the employee to fax/pdf the approval to accounting without accounting ever seeing the original documentation • Accounting did not perform a second layer of review
  • 9. Example 1 – Petty Cash What could have been done: • Automate the process • Require submission of actual documentation • Regular internal audits of the petty cash How could IA help • Process and Procedure Review • Perform audits • Train staff and organization about red flags
  • 10. Example 2 – Expenses Background: • Questions were raised about the reasonableness of a government agency’s CFO expenses • The CFO incurred approximately 100K in travel expenses per year • Travel policy was very lax in terms of what could/couldn’t be claimed & what documentation needed to be submitted to support the expense • Items purchased were not allowed under policy but were approved by CEO
  • 11. Example 2 – Expenses • Limited information was provided with expense claims • It was impossible to determine if the expenses were incurred for the benefit of the agency
  • 12. Example 2 – Expenses Where Breakdown Occurred: • Approval process - Accounting took the view that if approved by CEO they could not question expenses & didn’t perform 2nd level of review • Policies lacked guidance
  • 13. Example 2 – Expenses What could have been done: • Tone at the top • Proper vetting of executive level expenses • Adequate policies that provide detailed guidance on expenses and require detailed support
  • 14. Example 3 – Unacceptable Procurement Process Description: • The Real Property Department has worked with a minimum of 3 suppliers to have fictitious invoices issued & processed for payment of materials for funded projects. • Intent was to avoid lapsing of Crown funding. • No evidence that individuals benefitted personally, hence could not conclude that a fraud had occurred.
  • 15. Example 3 – Unacceptable Procurement Process Where Breakdown Occurred • 3 individuals were terminated. Dealings with the 3 suppliers were suspended. • Breakdown resulted from a lack of controls and oversight pertaining to delegation of authorities.
  • 16. Example 3 – Unacceptable Procurement Process What could have been done: • clear delegations of authorities (signing thresholds), training of Finance staff, testing of cut-off at Y/E by Finance, confirmation of Y/E fund balances with the provider of funds.
  • 17. Example 4 – Misuse of Acquisition Cards & Contracts Description: • CEO of an Agency used a corporate credit card for personal use & gave himself a salary increase by amending his employment contract without proper Board approval.
  • 18. Example 4 – Misuse of Acquisition Cards & Contracts Where Breakdown Occurred • Staff were directed to process payments & contract amendments. • CEO was dismissed; restitution agreement was signed and all monies were returned.
  • 19. Example 4 – Misuse of Acquisition Cards & Contracts What could have been done: • What could have been done: proper delegation of authorities, whistleblowing mechanisms in place, fraud hotline.
  • 20. Red Flags – What to watch for Limited or no documentation, including access Poor or inconsistent documentation Extensive use of spreadsheets Limited or lack of oversight Tone at the top Under resourced organization Staff turnover Custom IT systems, electronic signatures
  • 21. Q&A André Auger, CGA, CFE Government Services Advisor aauger@welchllp.com www.welchllp.com Twitter: @andreauger ca.linkedin.com/in/andreauger Colin Stobo, CA, IFA Consultant, Cobo Accounting Services Ltd. cstobo@rogers.com ca.linkedin.com/in/cstobo

Editor's Notes

  1. Andre AugerAndré’s main areas of expertise include cost audits, contribution audits, forensic audits and internal audits. This expertise is derived from his 21-year career in the Public Service, whereby he provided audit and assurance services to numerous government departments and agencies.André first joined Welch in 1979 after graduating from the University of Ottawa with a Bachelor of Commerce degree. André left Welch in 1984 to venture out into the industry until joining the government sector in 1990 where he moved up the ranks. André came back to his roots and re-joined the Welch family in January 2012. He currently serves as the firm’s Government Services Advisor to help grow Welch’s government practice.ColinStoboColin is an independent consultant providing forensic accounting, litigation support services and other audit related services. He has over 15 years of experience working at major international consulting and accounting firms, including over 10 years working as a forensic accountant and 5 years as a financial auditor. Over the past 8 years Colin has primarily worked on projects for the federal government. Through these projects Colin has gained substantial experience auditing and investigating contribution agreements and other funding vehicles used by various government departments.His experience also includes the investigation of bid rigging, secret commissions, fraudulent accounting and misappropriation of assets.
  2. 1. What can the internal auditor expect when he/she reveals his/her uncovering of a fraud?2.What legislation is applicable to frauds and unacceptable practices both in government and the private sector?3.You talked a lot about identifying fraud risks, how is IA supposed to understand and identify all the fraud risks of an organization? 4. Should an organization protect itself from all potential fraud risks?