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One, Two, Three…Groups
Dr. Joseph Triest
Exploring the tension between “[Psychoanalysis
of] the individual” and “[Psychoanalysis of] the
group”
(Carroll, 1999[1896], 13).
The rabbit-hole went straight on like a
tunnel for some way, and then dipped
suddenly down, so suddenly that she
(Alice) had not a moment to think
about stopping herself before she
found herself falling down a very deep
well.
Either the well was very deep, or she
fell very slowly, for she had plenty of
time as she went down to look about
her, and to wonder what was going to
happen next".
To the
source of
the Nile
One, Two, Three…Groups
Dr. Joseph Triest
The “Third Blow”
The dialectic nature of the psychoanalytic
subject
The subject whose identity is constituted
by its unconscious sexuality.
The cyclic
pattern of the
’pendula’
(Dialectics)
unconscious of itself, it inevitably requires the
object as a mirror that could tell it what it is; but
by its very nature as a subject, it cannot accept
any definition that is not strictly ‘internal’ – and
thus must sooner or later negate the object’s
external definition… ad infinitum.
Bion’s “binocular perspective”
I am impressed, as a practicing psycho-
analyst, by the fact that the psycho-
analytic approach, through the
individual, and the approach these
papers describe, through the group, are
dealing with different facets of the same
phenomena. The two methods provide
the practitioner with a rudimentary
binocular vision.
*Thoughts in search
for Thinkers
*Theories/Ideas and
Organizations
*Psychoanalysis and
Group Relations
*Psychoanalysis – and
Open System Theory
Spirituality - in; Psychoanalysis – out
Innovation, change and
transformation- in; Tradition - out
Doing (the business)- in; Thinking
theory – out
Integration and harmony of body-
mind-soul – in; Conflict and dialectics
- out
The structure of the Psychoanalytic
movement
IPA - (The International Psychoanalytic
Association) - the organization of
analysts as individuals;
EPF - (European Psychoanalytic
Federation) - an organization of
groups (societies) only
Eric Trist
The major steps he took - writes Trist - were not only intellectual steps but
action steps. They involved him in taking very considerable personal risks as
regards his professional reputation, in incurring undeflectable public
exposure (this on the part of the most private of men), and in having to
endure on more than one occasion surprise attacks from colleagues he had
considered friends. In 1949, during a conference the Tavistock Institute held
at Gerrards Cross with the Research Center for Group Dynamics (University
of Michigan) which represented the Lewinian tradition, he remarked to me
while we were out swimming at a place called Black Lake, `Why does it
always have to be me who has to bear the brunt? I feel as though I have
been in the front line unrelieved for ten years. I do not want to stay there
another ten years.' Were feelings of this kind the reason why he left the field
of groups?
The Odyssey of Exploring the Unconscious
The First Station (1895) – the unconscious as content
The Second Station (1913) – the unconscious as system
The third station - Projective Identification
The fourth station - the triad
The fifth station - group (whether large or small)
The sixth station - the Meta-group – is the Matrix
Le Bone (The Group Mind 1895)
“The most striking peculiarity presented by a psychological group is the
following. Whoever be the individuals that compose it, however like or unlike
be their mode of life, their occupations, their character, or their intelligence,
the fact that they have been transformed into a group puts them in
possession of a sort of collective mind which makes them feel, think, and act
in a manner quite different from that in which each individual of them would
feel, think, and act were he in a state of isolation” (Freud, 1921, p. 72-73;
emphasis added - vrt
Foulks – The Matrix
“A web of communication and relationship in
a given group. It is the common shared ground
which ultimately determines the meaning and
significance of all events and upon which all
communications and interpretations, verbal
and non-verbal, rest” (Foulkes, 1964, p. 292).
The matrix’s communication channels are
encoded by biology, anatomy and physiology
alongside language, culture and social
structures.
The iGroup
• A Diffused Notion of Boundaries (mostly space and
time):
• Experiencing the Simultaneity of Existence
• A Blurred Distinction between Reality and
Imagination
• The Externalization and Evacuation of Psychic
Systems that ostensibly belong to the Inner World
• The Collapse of Representations of ‘Parental’
Authority (as the Subject-Supposed-to-Know)
• Gratifying Dependence Needs
The Romeo and Juliette
Syndrom
Globalization and Terrorism
To make America (Israel?)
great again
Freud , 1921
• “Anyone who considers sex as something mortifying
and humiliating […] is at liberty to make use of the
more genteel expressions ‘Eros’ and ‘erotic’ [… but]
one can never tell where that road may lead one;
one gives way first in words, and then little by little
in substance too” (Freud, 1921, 91).

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One, two, three...groups Dr Yossi Triest

  • 1. One, Two, Three…Groups Dr. Joseph Triest Exploring the tension between “[Psychoanalysis of] the individual” and “[Psychoanalysis of] the group”
  • 2. (Carroll, 1999[1896], 13). The rabbit-hole went straight on like a tunnel for some way, and then dipped suddenly down, so suddenly that she (Alice) had not a moment to think about stopping herself before she found herself falling down a very deep well. Either the well was very deep, or she fell very slowly, for she had plenty of time as she went down to look about her, and to wonder what was going to happen next".
  • 4. One, Two, Three…Groups Dr. Joseph Triest The “Third Blow” The dialectic nature of the psychoanalytic subject The subject whose identity is constituted by its unconscious sexuality.
  • 5. The cyclic pattern of the ’pendula’ (Dialectics) unconscious of itself, it inevitably requires the object as a mirror that could tell it what it is; but by its very nature as a subject, it cannot accept any definition that is not strictly ‘internal’ – and thus must sooner or later negate the object’s external definition… ad infinitum.
  • 6. Bion’s “binocular perspective” I am impressed, as a practicing psycho- analyst, by the fact that the psycho- analytic approach, through the individual, and the approach these papers describe, through the group, are dealing with different facets of the same phenomena. The two methods provide the practitioner with a rudimentary binocular vision.
  • 7. *Thoughts in search for Thinkers *Theories/Ideas and Organizations *Psychoanalysis and Group Relations *Psychoanalysis – and Open System Theory
  • 8. Spirituality - in; Psychoanalysis – out Innovation, change and transformation- in; Tradition - out Doing (the business)- in; Thinking theory – out Integration and harmony of body- mind-soul – in; Conflict and dialectics - out
  • 9. The structure of the Psychoanalytic movement IPA - (The International Psychoanalytic Association) - the organization of analysts as individuals; EPF - (European Psychoanalytic Federation) - an organization of groups (societies) only
  • 10. Eric Trist The major steps he took - writes Trist - were not only intellectual steps but action steps. They involved him in taking very considerable personal risks as regards his professional reputation, in incurring undeflectable public exposure (this on the part of the most private of men), and in having to endure on more than one occasion surprise attacks from colleagues he had considered friends. In 1949, during a conference the Tavistock Institute held at Gerrards Cross with the Research Center for Group Dynamics (University of Michigan) which represented the Lewinian tradition, he remarked to me while we were out swimming at a place called Black Lake, `Why does it always have to be me who has to bear the brunt? I feel as though I have been in the front line unrelieved for ten years. I do not want to stay there another ten years.' Were feelings of this kind the reason why he left the field of groups?
  • 11. The Odyssey of Exploring the Unconscious The First Station (1895) – the unconscious as content The Second Station (1913) – the unconscious as system The third station - Projective Identification The fourth station - the triad The fifth station - group (whether large or small) The sixth station - the Meta-group – is the Matrix
  • 12. Le Bone (The Group Mind 1895) “The most striking peculiarity presented by a psychological group is the following. Whoever be the individuals that compose it, however like or unlike be their mode of life, their occupations, their character, or their intelligence, the fact that they have been transformed into a group puts them in possession of a sort of collective mind which makes them feel, think, and act in a manner quite different from that in which each individual of them would feel, think, and act were he in a state of isolation” (Freud, 1921, p. 72-73; emphasis added - vrt
  • 13. Foulks – The Matrix “A web of communication and relationship in a given group. It is the common shared ground which ultimately determines the meaning and significance of all events and upon which all communications and interpretations, verbal and non-verbal, rest” (Foulkes, 1964, p. 292). The matrix’s communication channels are encoded by biology, anatomy and physiology alongside language, culture and social structures.
  • 14. The iGroup • A Diffused Notion of Boundaries (mostly space and time): • Experiencing the Simultaneity of Existence • A Blurred Distinction between Reality and Imagination • The Externalization and Evacuation of Psychic Systems that ostensibly belong to the Inner World • The Collapse of Representations of ‘Parental’ Authority (as the Subject-Supposed-to-Know) • Gratifying Dependence Needs
  • 15. The Romeo and Juliette Syndrom Globalization and Terrorism To make America (Israel?) great again
  • 16. Freud , 1921 • “Anyone who considers sex as something mortifying and humiliating […] is at liberty to make use of the more genteel expressions ‘Eros’ and ‘erotic’ [… but] one can never tell where that road may lead one; one gives way first in words, and then little by little in substance too” (Freud, 1921, 91).

Editor's Notes

  1. Clinical vignettes