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Confessions Of A
Non-Power User
Dan Campbell
Graphics Planner – City of Vancouver
My Confessions
 I am not Iron Man
 I am not a power-user
Non – Tech Background
Artist’s Advice
 Pablo Picasso said,
 “Bad artists copy. Good artists steal”
The Loot
The Problem
 Precision & Practice
Our City Model
And Lo, They Shall Know Us By
Our File Formats!
LandXplorer
.ldx
SketchUp
.skp
3ds Max
.max
Map 3D
.dwg
MISC
.xxx
dae, fbx, dwg,
3ds, skp, obj
fbx, dwg, 3ds,
dae, fbx, 3ds,
dae, fbx, 3ds,
obj, skp, xsi,
kmz, dwg
AutoCAD Is OK With Big
3ds Max Likes Things Close To
Home
 3ds Max: single precision format
 32-bit data width (about 7 digit precision)
 AutoCAD: double-precision format
 64-bit data width, (about 16 digit precision)
1,000,000,000,000 to 0.0000000000000001
Straying Too Far From Home
 Distorted Geometry
 Unable to snap to objects
 PC becomes unresponsive
 There are tears
Vancouver At 0, 0, 0
Building In Real World
Location
Warning!
GIS vs Architectual Viewpoints
SITE
Here Be Monsters
 Or at least coordinate systems,
geo-referencing and equally frightening things
SITE
I don’t
know where
I am!
Please, don’t
hate me
because I’m
beautiful
I don’t
know
anything
Objective
 Transfer a “pretty but dumb” model from its
own insular, imaginary world, back to the real
world where it gains intelligence and then
connects and interacts with others.
Non-Power User’s View
Graphical Representation!
The Proposed Process
3ds Max
(local)
Map 3D
(global)
LandXplorer
(global)
SketchUp
(local)
manually placed
FME
3ds Max
(local)
Map 3D
(global)
LandXplorer
(global)
SketchUp
(local)
How We’ve Been Doing It
 Image of a graphic registration element
The New Way
The New Way
The Dynamic Duo
GLOBAL.FWT
GLOBAL.PRJ
PROJCS["NAD_1983_UTM_Zone_10N",GEOGCS["GCS_North_A
merican_1983",DATUM["D_North_American_1983",SPHEROID["
GRS_1980",6378137,298.257222101]],PRIMEM["Greenwich",0]
,UNIT["Degree",0.017453292519943295]],PROJECTION["Trans
verse_Mercator"],PARAMETER["False_Easting",500000],PARAM
ETER["False_Northing",0],PARAMETER["Central_Meridian",-
123],PARAMETER["Scale_Factor",0.9996],PARAMETER["Latitud
e_Of_Origin",0],UNIT["Meter",1]]
576.3624915780383 0 0 492296.375196623
0 576.3624915780383 0 5457652.513056856
0 0 576.3624915780383 18.90390472365748
Original 3ds Max View
AutoCAD View
In 3ds Max: 0,0,0
Back Home Again
There Is No Place Like Home
3D PDF
Adressing A Problem
Vancouver Open Data
Thank You!
 Questions?
 For more information:
 Dan Campbell
 City of Vancouver
 dan.campbell@vancouver.ca
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Confessions of a Non-Power User

Editor's Notes

  1. Max uses single precision 32 bit floating point numbers which have, technically speaking, a limit to the value they can store and to the precision of representing decimal places. In short, the larger the number in front of the decimal point, the lower the precision behind it. So if you start moving away from the origin, even before you reach a position value that cannot be represented by a 32 bit floating point number, your decimal precision will be so low that working with the objects and placing them correctly would be practically impossible.In the Customize> Units Setup > System Units Setup dialog, you will find a slider.It shows the precision at a specific distance from the origin. For example, if your object is 1 million generic units from the origin, the resulting precision is only 0.0625So if you are animating an object, the position interpolation wouldn't be able to generate values that are lower than that and you might get lots of jittering.This limitation is related to the SYSTEM UNITS, the generic units stored in files.What these units mean to you is up to you though - you can set 1GU=1cm or 1GU=1000km, Max sees the same data, but you can represent a room or the Earth in a usable scale. So you can decide how your scale is interpreted when you start the scene and keep in mind that this decision might affect the lowest possible detail you can model or the farthest distance from the origin you can safely move to.
  2. Button would be better called “do away with a world of pain” Local anaesthesia
  3. Add note about here be dragons – flat world – Non Copernican view of the world