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Can you track the long term 
outcome of your Graduates? 
Associate Dean, Dalhousie Medicine New Brunswick - Canada
Authors 
Collaboration 
“Learners and Locations: Tracking Medical 
Students’ Backgrounds, Educational 
Placements, and Practice Locations”
" I have no conflict of 
interest to disclose"
Location Of Clinicians and Trainee Education At Dalhousie 
(LOCATED) 
Goal: Track Medical 
Trainees’ career 
choice and practice 
location. 
Where are Dal graduates going to 
practice and in what career? 
Did geographical placement during training affect 
eventual practice location or career decision? 
How do student demographics and characteristics affect career choice 
and practice location?
LOCATED Project Methodology 
Admission 
Data Assessment tool 
Data Sources 
(ONE45) 
Canadian Post M.D. 
Education Registry 
(CAPER) 
Canadian 
Medical 
Directory 
Geographic Information 
System (GIS) 
Statistics Canada 
Integrated Longitudinal 
Database 
Demographic characteristics 
Rural/Urban Background 
Medical Training Placements 
Discipline/Time spent 
Practice & Career Choice 
Census & Maps 
Project Metrics 
Large Centers (Pop >50,000) 
Small Centers (10,000 > Pop < 50, 000) 
Rural/Remote Communities (Pop <10,000)
LOCATED Application Demonstration 
Dalhousie Medicine New Brunswick (DMNB) 
http://youtu.be/43CtY9-Qx5g
Demographic Characteristics 
37 % 
Pre-Medical University Degree - Gender 
Dalhousie University *Other Canadian Universities 
28 
DMNB Students 
Ratio 
1.8 : 1 
Female : Male 
Age Range 
Admission Graduation 
Youngest Oldest Youngest Oldest 
20 38 24 42 
Median Median 
23.5 27.5 
Permanent Residence (Admission Data) 
100% *Canadian (New Brunswickers by Policy) 
p =0.131 
*p=0.034 
*p < 0.001 
63 % 
37 % 
68 % 
32 % 
3 
LIC
Geographical Mapping 
High School Locations 
Pre-Medical University Locations 
30 
25 
20 
15 
10 
5 
0 
High School Experience Pre-Medical University Experience 
Large 
Centers 
Small 
Centers 
Rural 
Community 
37% 
31% 32% 
89% 
11% 
Large Center 
(Pop > 50,000) 
Small Center 
(10,000 < Pop < 50,000) 
Rural Community 
(Pop <10,000)
Average Time Spent at Communities during 
Clerkship Clinical Placements 
Med 4 
(22wks) 
**Residency Match Program : 
Family Medicine (N=13) 
DMNB Experience 
Large Centers: 51.8 wks 
Small Centers: 13 wks 
Rural Communities: 4.1 wks 
International: 1.2 wks 
Unclassified: 0.2 wks 
Missing Information: 0.4 wks 
* Electives (On-site) 
**Includes LIC Students (N=3) 
Med 3 
(48wks) 
Med 1 
(1.2wks) 
Med 2 
(On-site) 
Average Total: 70.7 wks
Average Time Spent at Communities during 
Clerkship Clinical Placements 
Med 4 
(22wks) 
Residency Match Program : 
Other Specialties (N=14) 
DMNB Experience 
Large Centers: 66 wks 
Small Centers: 1.4 wks 
Rural Communities: 4.3 wks 
Unclassified: 0.1 wks 
Missing Information:0.6 
Med 3 
(48wks) 
Med 1 
(1.2wks) 
Med 2 
(On-site) 
* Electives (On-site) 
Average Total: 72.3 wks
Residency Program Match’s Locations 
– Heat Map 
# of MD Graduates 
per locations 
Density of Residents 
1 – Low Density 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 
8 
9 – High Density
Residency Program Match’s Locations per Career Choice 
Family Medicine Medical Specialties 
1 
2 
3 - 4 
Surgical Specialties 
48% Family Medicine 37% Medical Specialties 15% Surgical Specialties 
3 – 4
Correlation between High School and Residency 
Program Community Size 
Small 
Centers
Information Management Challenge 
Challenges with Data Management 
Longitudinal data: 
Increased likelihood that 
data can be missed, lost, 
changed (e.g., last name 
changes due to 
marriage/divorce) 
Policy Complexity 
No existing 
policies for 
data 
management 
Non 
standardized 
due to multiple 
input methods/ 
personnel 
Data Integration 
Access to Data 
Variable, 
inconsistent 
nomenclature 
/classifications 
Ensuring 
data are 
used within 
FoM and 
provincially 
Technology 
Technology/ 
Data Acquisition 
Nomenclature/ 
Specification 
Data Input Data Storage/ 
Privacy/ 
Maintenance 
Partnership 
Agreements/ 
Access
Key Lessons Learned 
Long Term Outcomes 
• Historical data helped to advance trends that would take a long 
time to be shown 
• Do not draw conclusions from short term data 
• Essential IT / GIS support 
External Data 
• Agreements were necessary for data sharing (Dal/ Canadian Post-M.D. 
Education Registry (CAPER) by using a common identifier) 
• Canadian Medical Directory annual reports addressed the CAPER time gap 
Data Quality 
• Make ‘essential’ information mandatory while collecting data 
• Keep track of information over time (example: student name) 
Policies 
• Data standardization policies in the Faculty of Medicine are 
necessary to effectively evaluate programs 
• Access to information requires engagement of the 
leadership/decision makers 
• Information management policies are necessary for 
longitudinal data maintenance
Questions ! 
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17 Muster2014 Steeves Paixao

  • 1. Can you track the long term outcome of your Graduates? Associate Dean, Dalhousie Medicine New Brunswick - Canada
  • 2. Authors Collaboration “Learners and Locations: Tracking Medical Students’ Backgrounds, Educational Placements, and Practice Locations”
  • 3. " I have no conflict of interest to disclose"
  • 4. Location Of Clinicians and Trainee Education At Dalhousie (LOCATED) Goal: Track Medical Trainees’ career choice and practice location. Where are Dal graduates going to practice and in what career? Did geographical placement during training affect eventual practice location or career decision? How do student demographics and characteristics affect career choice and practice location?
  • 5. LOCATED Project Methodology Admission Data Assessment tool Data Sources (ONE45) Canadian Post M.D. Education Registry (CAPER) Canadian Medical Directory Geographic Information System (GIS) Statistics Canada Integrated Longitudinal Database Demographic characteristics Rural/Urban Background Medical Training Placements Discipline/Time spent Practice & Career Choice Census & Maps Project Metrics Large Centers (Pop >50,000) Small Centers (10,000 > Pop < 50, 000) Rural/Remote Communities (Pop <10,000)
  • 6. LOCATED Application Demonstration Dalhousie Medicine New Brunswick (DMNB) http://youtu.be/43CtY9-Qx5g
  • 7. Demographic Characteristics 37 % Pre-Medical University Degree - Gender Dalhousie University *Other Canadian Universities 28 DMNB Students Ratio 1.8 : 1 Female : Male Age Range Admission Graduation Youngest Oldest Youngest Oldest 20 38 24 42 Median Median 23.5 27.5 Permanent Residence (Admission Data) 100% *Canadian (New Brunswickers by Policy) p =0.131 *p=0.034 *p < 0.001 63 % 37 % 68 % 32 % 3 LIC
  • 8. Geographical Mapping High School Locations Pre-Medical University Locations 30 25 20 15 10 5 0 High School Experience Pre-Medical University Experience Large Centers Small Centers Rural Community 37% 31% 32% 89% 11% Large Center (Pop > 50,000) Small Center (10,000 < Pop < 50,000) Rural Community (Pop <10,000)
  • 9. Average Time Spent at Communities during Clerkship Clinical Placements Med 4 (22wks) **Residency Match Program : Family Medicine (N=13) DMNB Experience Large Centers: 51.8 wks Small Centers: 13 wks Rural Communities: 4.1 wks International: 1.2 wks Unclassified: 0.2 wks Missing Information: 0.4 wks * Electives (On-site) **Includes LIC Students (N=3) Med 3 (48wks) Med 1 (1.2wks) Med 2 (On-site) Average Total: 70.7 wks
  • 10. Average Time Spent at Communities during Clerkship Clinical Placements Med 4 (22wks) Residency Match Program : Other Specialties (N=14) DMNB Experience Large Centers: 66 wks Small Centers: 1.4 wks Rural Communities: 4.3 wks Unclassified: 0.1 wks Missing Information:0.6 Med 3 (48wks) Med 1 (1.2wks) Med 2 (On-site) * Electives (On-site) Average Total: 72.3 wks
  • 11. Residency Program Match’s Locations – Heat Map # of MD Graduates per locations Density of Residents 1 – Low Density 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 – High Density
  • 12. Residency Program Match’s Locations per Career Choice Family Medicine Medical Specialties 1 2 3 - 4 Surgical Specialties 48% Family Medicine 37% Medical Specialties 15% Surgical Specialties 3 – 4
  • 13. Correlation between High School and Residency Program Community Size Small Centers
  • 14. Information Management Challenge Challenges with Data Management Longitudinal data: Increased likelihood that data can be missed, lost, changed (e.g., last name changes due to marriage/divorce) Policy Complexity No existing policies for data management Non standardized due to multiple input methods/ personnel Data Integration Access to Data Variable, inconsistent nomenclature /classifications Ensuring data are used within FoM and provincially Technology Technology/ Data Acquisition Nomenclature/ Specification Data Input Data Storage/ Privacy/ Maintenance Partnership Agreements/ Access
  • 15. Key Lessons Learned Long Term Outcomes • Historical data helped to advance trends that would take a long time to be shown • Do not draw conclusions from short term data • Essential IT / GIS support External Data • Agreements were necessary for data sharing (Dal/ Canadian Post-M.D. Education Registry (CAPER) by using a common identifier) • Canadian Medical Directory annual reports addressed the CAPER time gap Data Quality • Make ‘essential’ information mandatory while collecting data • Keep track of information over time (example: student name) Policies • Data standardization policies in the Faculty of Medicine are necessary to effectively evaluate programs • Access to information requires engagement of the leadership/decision makers • Information management policies are necessary for longitudinal data maintenance

Editor's Notes

  1. Outline: Project Scope - Project Methodology - LOCATED Application Demonstration - Examples of Analysis - Challenges with Data Management - Lessons Learned
  2. There is a complex data source (using internal administrative data, commercial database for training schedule and national databases) but no new data generated. Which goes into integrated database and is categorized by population classification and displayed with a mapping system
  3. A chi-square test showed that there is no significant difference in males and females, χ2 (1, N = 28) = 2.29, p = .131. A chi-square test indicated that significantly more students listed Canada as country of permanent residence compared to the United States, χ2 (1, N = 28) = 24.14, p < .001. When classifying prior university experience as Dalhousie or Non-Dalhousie, a chi-square test indicated that significantly more students did not go to Dalhousie (N = 19) than did go to Dalhousie (N = 8), χ2 (1, N = 27) = 4.481, p = .034. An informal interpretation of a p-value, based on a significance level of about 10%, might be:  p =<0.01: very strong presumption against null hypothesis   0.01<p =<0.05: strong presumption against null hypothesis 0.05<p =<0.1: low presumption against null hypothesis p>0.1: no presumption against the null hypothesis
  4. Majority of the students were having high School in NON-Large Centers and Pre-Medical University in Large Centers High School and Pre-Medical University locations concentrated in the Maritimes.
  5. MD Graduates who had residency program match in Family Medicine had majority of their training in Large Centers, Independent of their residency program match, LIC students were mostly in Small Centers while regular students (TBC) were having training in large centers If someone asks: ALL DMNB Students (N=28), independent of their residency program match, experienced Large Centers: 59.1 wks Small Centers: 6.6 wks Rural Communities: 4.4wks Average LIC (DMNB) Total: 71.4 wks International : 0.6 wks Unclassified:0.20 wks Missing Information:0.6 wks Only LIC - Longitudinal Integrated Clerkship (N=3), independent of their residency program match, experienced Large Centers: 12.9 wks Small Centers: 53.3 wks Rural Communities: 3.7 wks Average LIC (DMNB) Total: 74.1 wks International : 4.3 wks Only TBC - Traditional Block Clerkship (N=25) , independent of their residency program match, experienced Large Centers: 64.6 wks Small Centers: 1 wks Rural Communities: 4.5 wks Average TBC (DMNB) Total: 71.1 wks International: 0.1 wks Unclassified: 0.2 wks Missing Information: 0.7wks
  6. Highest concentration of Residents in Halifax (N=9) and Fredericton (N=4), followed by: Saint John, St John’s (N=3, each) Moncton (N=2)
  7. More Medical Specialties and Surgical Specialties in NS (Halifax), more Family Medicine in NB (Fredericton)
  8. From those students who had high school experience in Large Centers, 86% were matched to residency locations in a Large Center and 14% in Small Centers; From those students who had high school experience in Non -Large Center (Small Centers and Rural Communities) 100% were matched to residency locations in a Large Center; Be matched to a Large Center for Residency Program was dominant, it represented 96% while to be matched to a Small Center represented 4%. None of the DMNB graduates were matched to a rural community for their Residency Programs.
  9. In managing data, the greater the data collection the more important/complex policy is needed and domain policy become difficulty.
  10. Caper data sharing is critical in cases where students change their name