1. Walakumassalam:
So quote the hadith then, that is the point... Or you could just show one
example of where I am a literalist.... in a way that is incorrect at least,
because we all are literalists - (point you may have is in transgressions with
transgression like-minded but that is really the only one I can think of) - in
essence otherwise there is no way to extract meaning from the Quran and
sunnah today.
You addressed none of the points made and came back with personal
gloats about who you knew and how long you been here and other ways
your intellect is able to keep you superior in your own mind. You made
wild insinuations about what I am doing with my life, and then posted as
though i am teaching at a level people cannot understand. Insulted me
as though I would never know who an "aalim" is, where he was trained or
anything... (you only need read the Hamas article you like so much to know,
I do not think following him would be taqleed, but thanks for your trust in
my "life skills") Well when I met a young 40 year old once, he corrected
me timelessly about how evil Hamas was and how I could know nothing of
the Palestinian situation because I had never been there. He was actually
calling them extremists when they overthrew the Dahlhan coup.... He was
a complete ignoramus on politics and ran a website devoted to communist
videos of Che Guevera and Zionist Conspiracy Theories while trying hard
every day to make the next edition of Jawa Report. Now he claims that after
2. 6 months he can discuss the issues of economics in interviews because he
like every other high school graduate understands the difference between
capitalism and socialism.
Perhaps discussing things like the difference in Islam between
theoretical issues of finance and economics would be too much, perhaps
communicating specifics of policy would be too much and overwhelming.
That is why there are steps taken and nobody speaks over the heads. The
conversations I am having with the audience are understood by anybody
that ever entered a college classroom and return visitors on the site suggest
that ideas are altering and their is much benefit, incremental increases in
understanding of those that visit the site daily which is at this point over
1,000 returning people each day. But your old-school (clubhouse - your
either in my clubhouse or I'm going find all your faults and waste my time
pointing them out to others incessantly) is the real reason I stopped wasting
my time on the phone with you and started to just hold those conversations
with the general ummah. Like I said, armchair critics don't phase me much
at all. Hamas will lose political power, in all probability, sometime next
year and then they will be faced with a choice of putting their cards on the
table, which essentially is what you do when you put all your cards in a
basket of political party that is only concerned with Palestine and has no
real transnational objective. They are about as brutal as the PLO and fill
their prisons with literalists you would applaud as deviants. So, we will see
where they stand in some time with regard to sustainability. I will make a
prediction that they fight each other and kill many civilians, but for you it will
be okay because of party affiliation (this is very totalitarian I may add).
So, again, the core has been answered with your aql, nothing whatsoever to
say about the Ikhwani silence in the face of occupation based on "wisdom"
I guess you would say, and typical of what I know of you from the past,
nothing of proof of how populist changes actually do not have a basis in
history. It is obvious you still count the days until catastrophe hits my house
so you can say I told you so... I can only imagine the uninformed criticisms
you spout to others about my approach and all but will never once address
it in public. I know because of the constant "fuck thems" and poison that
dripped off your tongue about everybody that ever came to disagree with
you. It is not very sufi and much more harsh then saying what you think
directly to someone but hey! what do I know, in your eyes you can read me
from a distance and assume all the worst. The private critic is a venomous,
3. slanderer. So, again I think you should really re-think your positions and
also rethink your assumptions, remember you are talking to the one that
states emphatically that the mujahideen do not need Westerners for boots
on the ground (although I totally approve of heijra). Perhaps someday
you will be able to take away your bias lens and approach a situation with
the epistemological (means what we consider as knowledge) basis of the
Muslims, meaning weigh the evidence and stay silent with criticism where
there is no ability to defend it or provide data for what you say is true.
So, all in all, why don't you follow through with one issue, this literalism
thing.... Take one quote of mine, one statement, one view I hold and show
me how I fit Qaradawi's theory of neo-Dhahariyya... You know he was
writing that statement in the 80's and 90's right??? The Al-Qaedist's are
very different than the Egyptian group he was actually speaking about...
So, you can transmutate that paragraph (remember I was walking around
with his book before you stumbled across that quote when I was in Saudi
Arabia). In the end, I ask that unless you can prove your positions in public
or private that you refrain form mentioning any of my "errors or extremes"
as you see them. You are a public da'ee at that point warning against
someone you have not established hujjah upon is stupid. So, say you don't
slander or ever mention me and warn against me if you want, but seriously
you should rather bring forth your evidence and then believe, not believe
and then bring forth the evidence. This is an opportunity for you to provide
evidence. Remember, I love Hamas and Al-Qaeda, support the political
Islamist parties and am critical of certain aspects of all groups, so I do not
have party allegiance to worry about. Personally, I do not take offense to
the person behind the discussion and am rather interested to see the proof
you have for the statements you have insulted me with in the past. I hope
to hear a response from you with adilla as I said before I enjoy the critic
more than the supporter, but let us take away the allegiance based upon
experience. I have been taking care of myself much longer than you, and in
the religion just as long as well. Do not treat me like you underling, we both
know that is not the case.
Jazakallah Khair,
Younus
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5. Asalam 3leikoum wr wb,
Wow braah that was completely NOT what I meant by the email I sent
you. I did not send you that hadeeth Qaradawi quoted about because of
the literalist meaning, but rather those that are not educated in fiqh usool
coming to conclusions that you may come to.I just didn't feel like retyping
itso i screen shot it. That email was strictly naseehah, that I hope you will
rethink. The same way I told you before, that your rage when you get upset
lets forth your true inner feelings.That is what scared me from a street
perspective.Your 1000 returning hits got you on the map when Abu Talha
tried to pull a Yousef, I had the old statcounter still in place and w/o a doubt
it was South Park residual b.s. but from a getting your name out there point
of view yes indeed it is still working.The reason I 'aalem' was that I was
hoping that this person was one that you actually met before the media or
your positions made public.The reason I did not respond point by point was
I don't disagree with all you stated and was waiting to sit with an aalem here
to learn more about the collateral position.Summing up, in no way shape
or form did my last email mean to insult you, it was a warning for you to
contemplate about Sumal.