The document discusses differences between the Salafi creed and the Sunni creed of Aqidah. It provides quotes from a Salafi scholar, Shaykh 'Alawi al-Saqqaf, stating that God has the attribute of silence according to the authentic Sunnah. It also discusses a book called Al Tabsir Fi Ma'aalim Al Deen which Salafis say was written by Imam al-Tabari, but contains a quote the Salafi editor objected to regarding God being able to speak. The forum post debates theological differences between Salafis and other Sunni groups.

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Salafi Creed Vs Sunni Creed [aqida]
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Posted 29 September 2010 - 12:47 AM
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Posted 29 September 2010 - 07:18 PM
abulkhair, on 29 September 2010 - 01:47 AM, said:
It is volume 5, p. 376
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Ibn Baz cites the hadith in his Fatawa and adds:
“Interpreting such hadith metaphorically and avoiding relying upon their literal meanings is the practice of the heretic Jahmiyyah and
Mu’taziliyyah”.
Fatawa Ibn Baz, vol. 5, p. 374
JazakumAllahu khayran for the above. The quote is not specific or exclusively in reference to the hadith on harwala -
nevertheless we have already quoted the likes of Imam al-Tirmidhi on the hadith who would be making 'ta'wil' by Ibn Baz's
criterion would he not?
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faqir #33
Posted 14 July 2011 - 08:39 PM
Of late I've not been updating this thread. Instead I've collected the various beliefs of the pseudo-salafis in this thread.
Here is another I'll add there later:
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Salafi theologian Shaykh 'Alawi al-Saqqaf said:
‫وھذا ﺛﺎﺑت. َﻟْﯾس ﻛﻣْﺛﻠِﮫ ﺷﻲء وھو اﻟﺳﻣﯾﻊ اﻟَﺑﺻﯾر ، ﻗﺎل اﻟﺷﯾﺦ اﻟﻔﺎﺿل ﻋﻠوي اﻟﺳﻘﺎف ﻓﻲ " ﺻﻔﺎت ﷲ ﻋز وﺟل " ) ص 771 ( : ﯾوﺻف رﺑﻧﺎ ﻋز وﺟل ﺑﺎﻟﺳﻛوت ﻛﻣﺎ ﯾﻠﯾق ﺑﮫ ﺳﺑﺣﺎﻧﮫ‬
‫َﱠ َ ﱠ ﱡ‬ ُ ِ ُ ِ ‫َ َ ِ ِ َ ْ ٌ َ َُ ﱠ‬ ٌ
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‫ﺑﺎﻟﺳﻧﺔ اﻟﺻﺣﯾﺣﺔ ، وھﻲ ﺻﻔﺔ ﻓﻌﻠﱠﯾﺔ اﺧﺗﯾﺎرﯾﺔ ﻣﺗﻌﻠﻘﺔ ﺑﻣﺷﯾﺋﺗﮫ ﺳﺑﺣﺎﻧﮫ وﺗﻌﺎﻟﻰ‬
Rough translation....
Al-Sheikh Al-Fadil (i.e. fellow pseudo-salafi) 'Alawi Al-Saqqaaf said in 'The Attributes of Allah, Mighty and Majestic' (p.177):
'Our Lord, Mighty and Majestic, bears the Attribute of Silence in a way that befits Him, and there is nothing like unto Him. He is
The All-Hearing, The All-Seeing. This is established in the authentic Sunnah and it is a voluntary attribute of action that is
attached to His Will, Glorified and Exalted is He....
The book is available at this link.
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There is a book called Al Tabsir Fi Ma'aalim Al Deen which the salafis say is by Imam al-Tabari. In there is a related quote
which the Salafi editor Dr. Ali ibn Abd al-Aziz al-Shibl objected to:
In the above Imam al-Tabari is saying “He’s the speaker (al-Mutakallim) upon whom silence is not allowed (i.e. It is negated).”
The salafi editor of this work writes that this position is similar to “what the Asharis say regarding Kalam Nafsi” and continues
to rejects Imam Tabari's words saying, “It is not allowed to negate silence (sukut).....”
http://www.asharis.wordpress.com
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