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Recently I posed a question on twelve of my LinkedIn groups regarding coaching. Each response is as it
was written by the author, however, the author’s name has been omitted for privacy reasons.
“ All opinions are expressly those of the clients, coaches and myself and are not intended to dictate if or
how you should use a coach or market your coaching.”
Part I - From the client’s point-of-view
Part II - From the coach’s perspective
The discussion post was as follows:
Do you see value in business or personal coaching?
One of the many things successful people have in common is a business and/or personal coach.
If you see value in a coach, what would you want from- and how would you use your coach?
I was amazed how quickly the responses started pouring into my email box. The responses are broken
down into two categories, those written by clients and those written by coaches.
The clients using coaches have expressed the importance of the coach being familiar with their industry.
They felt that in a coaching environment too many questions or issues may be posed to the coach that
were industry specific. They also indicated there is a big difference between coaches who are coaching
an executive on the company and an executive in a company. The latter being an executive who is
getting personal coaching rather than being coached as the CEO.
Other studies have shown that companies over all are not paying for coaching, but are putting an
importance on the individual to seek out coaching. Movement up the organizational ladder can be
accelerated by the individuals initiatives to seek out professional growth through training and coaching.
Part I - From the client’s point-of-view
Yes I believe there is value in coaching if you are: Looking for something to be different or better.
Ready to become more aware of your own strengths and development needs. Ready to take action.
What I have found having worked with a few coaches is that when seeking a coach, I am looking for
someone with expertise who can also act as a mentor for whatever challenge I want to work on.
Bottom line in my view is that people need to be clear why they are hiring a coach.
___________________________________________________________________________________
Dick, you asked: "If you see value in a coach, what would you want from- and how would you use your
coach?" Absolutely see value in a coach. No question about it. What I want from a coach is feedback,
i.e., positive and specific input on my performance so that I can play better.
___________________________________________________________________________________
There are 2 questions here. The headline questions value and the body asks what one would want.
What is the question? Regarding value - yes, for some situations providing the coach is properly
experienced and qualified in that area and recognizes his/her limits in knowledge and calls in
professionals with more experience in some areas. The answer is not necessarily 'within us', but might
be found with more research and with input from other professionals. It may not be a developmental
issue; rather, it may be an information issue. It does separate people management and development
from workflow so the responsibilities are clearer, and in some cases, it's not the person being coached
but the 'boss' who is the problem and can be told so by the independent coach. For Independent
Professionals working alone, coaching acts as a sounding board, an arm's length mirror/advocate and we
all need one of those if we don't have a water fountain to visit regularly. How would I use a coach? If I
had some issues where I needed independent feedback for a values or self management issue, but not
for day to day business decisions and development because it's not a coach's area of expertise. I have
seen a lot of damage done by coaches who tried to be all things, far beyond their knowledge.
___________________________________________________________________________________
Thank you Larry, I believe that answers my question. If I fully understand, what you're saying is that the
skill sets for a consultant and coach are similar, the difference being whether you're working with an
individual or an organization.
___________________________________________________________________________________
I think it depends how the coach works. If they can bring genuine value, then naturally it is worthwhile.
However, if they state the obvious then, it is far more limited. I also think the rapport and trust between
the coach and executive are crucial. Personal and business coaches may be useful if the person does not
have a mentor, in particular if times are difficult and decisions, which are tough and complex, needs to
be taken. This does require the coach to have prior experience from these types of situations/decisions.
One can draw a parallel with the value of coaches to the value of management consultants.
___________________________________________________________________________________
Here is my opinion- As the saying goes" Wisdom is in having all the right questions and not having all the
answers", I believe a coaches inherent quality should be of a student rather than an expert. I definitely
see a huge value in the personal and business coaching in today’s environment where it forces all of us
to keep focusing on improving our skills and making each other "sack proof
___________________________________________________________________________________
Obviously, there are cultural differences in the way 'values' are perceived, even if they are said to be
universal. At least as far as the Indian corporate environment is concerned, the term value is largely
applicable to the individual, although, again, all corporate bodies claim to live by values (it is sad to
admit that there is a good amount of cynicism on this side of Planet Earth). My personal take is that
coaching can and should add value to the individual first, and then to the business he/she is in.
___________________________________________________________________________________
There is tremendous value in business coaching. Unfortunately many coaching schools tell their students
"you don't have to know anything about someone's industry or what they do to coach them". I guess
that's true if you're focused strictly on personal coaching, but bad advice if you want to work in a
business environment. When I review coaches I always look for someone who has knowledge in
whatever issue I'm facing (or the client is facing) as well as knowledge of that individual's work
environment and/or role.
___________________________________________________________________________________
A coach is a perfect resource to help successfully transfer learning from a training back to the workplace.
But it goes beyond that. When I first came to current company, I was assigned a mentor, who was
essentially a coach. He helped me adjust to the new culture, was a resource when I had questions, and
generally helped me get up to speed with my new work environment. On top of all this, he was my first
"friend" at the company, which made my transition go so much more smoothly.
___________________________________________________________________________________
Coach or mentor - yes I see a great deal of value in them. They can help us look at situations differently
than we are accustomed to. The can also help us look at ourselves more deeply.
___________________________________________________________________________________
Unfortunately, there are too many 'coaches' out there. I think it has watered down the effectiveness of
the endeavor as a whole, so I would probably answer no, I don't see the value.
___________________________________________________________________________________
There are two types of coaching - so it would depend on what you are seeking. The first type of coaching
- executive - works to fill gaps in knowledge, skills, and abilities by developing development plans and
working to build an accountability network around the individual. This is often called coaching for results
and involves a more directed approach based on the goals of the coachee. The second type is designed
not to build skills or abilities, but to help individuals put the puzzle pieces together around an issue they
are struggling with. This usually means most individuals have the knowledge somewhere inside them,
but need help seeing it from a different perspective. This type involves questioning, encouragement and
calls to action.
___________________________________________________________________________________
I would have to say that a coach asks powerful questions that lead to new discoveries about self,
behaviors, thought patterns and other human conditions. "Those people" that want/desire coaching are
people who are willing to think outside the box, take risks and look outside themselves for inspiration.
It’s a good healthy sign of humility.
___________________________________________________________________________________
Absolutely! It doesn't supersede the individual’s skills or expertise, but it allows that to unfold even
more strongly since coaches have only one stake in the equation: to make you think more clearly about
what you're facing. As a marketer, I often act as a "coach" to keep things moving in the right direction
and to help find the solutions that already reside within the individual or the company.
___________________________________________________________________________________
Trust, discretion and competence are mandatory.
___________________________________________________________________________________
I think a business coach is excellent for keeping a business team focused on its overall goal. The sports
analogy is over-used, perhaps, but true. A good coach can help identify each team member's strengths
and weaknesses, and create ways for each member to contribute to the team's goals.
___________________________________________________________________________________
Yes, absolutely, as a solo performer in a niche business, residing in a rural setting, excellent coaching is
vital necessity for keeping on a productive, track. Especially during time of change, a positive,
experienced and focused mentor has been invaluable to keeping my creativity high and my business
vision alive. I owe a great deal to my present coach.
___________________________________________________________________________________
Yes, it can have great value depending on (1) the goals; (2) the coach; and (3) the client's willingness to
be coached.
___________________________________________________________________________________
Dick, I see a great value in coaching or mentoring in business. I use coaching and mentoring in my last
three jobs in Iraq where I along with other team members mentored members of the Ministry og
Defense/Logistics community and the same with members of the Iraqi Ministry of Interior's logistics
community. In both cases, we were trying to setup logistics organizations and teach the members the
basic concepts of logistics as used by the military in the United States. It worked extremely well. Thanks.
___________________________________________________________________________________
I do agree that the key attribute of an effective coach is in fact experience with success and failure and
not in just a single field. This is an important item that should be thoroughly investigated prior to
engaging in a contract with any trainer or coach.
___________________________________________________________________________________
Hi Dick, I agree with Dick but let me go a little further. There are lots of people calling themselves
coaches who have no coach specific training nor a background that brings value to the client. What
happens is a nice conversation, but no forward movement on the part of the client. There are lots of
counterfeit coaches who don't have the necessary skills. Let me give you a sports analogy. Just because I
coach my young son's basketball team, that doesn't give me the skills to coach an NBA team. Is coaching
effective? Yes! Are all coaches competent? NO!
___________________________________________________________________________________
Dick, I noticed that your responses are thinly veiled advertisements from consultants. My experience as
a recidivist entrepreneur, board member and advisor to multiple CEOs is that the key attributes of an
effective coach are experience, discipline and forcefulness. The first - experience - is what most
'coaches' lack. I have written articles about this syndrome - the business failures acting as coaches. Here
are some examples of my writings: I think that most coaches are disingenuous - they sell something that
is far less effective than advertised mostly because they can't think of anything else to do. But, when you
look behind the facade, you don't see evidence that they are successful. It is much like the promoter of a
book that tells you how to grow rich doing something but, when you ask about how rich they are they
tell you how busy they have been spreading the word.
___________________________________________________________________________________
I'm sure there is great value in coaching. Certainly most successful athletes have coaches. But I question
whether it is fact that most successful people in business have a personal coach (unless we stretch the
definition to include spouse, best mate and or business colleagues.) If I were to get a personal coach I
would be looking for someone to help me improve my business performance (i.e. lead, manage, use
time, etc. better.) A great book on coaching - The Inner Game of Tennis - (and not just for coaching
sport) suggests that the best way to coach is to let the coachee observe best practice and absorb it
without too much feedback. I can see this being difficult to implement in a business environment, but it
does talk to the point that one of the best things that you can do is a get a boss is great at what she does
and that you want to emulate.
___________________________________________________________________________________
All successful people have a confidant (or two) from whom they can learn and soundboard. I see it as a
long term relationship - someone who knows me, my strengths and weaknesses, and who can tell me
the bad news. My primary coach is my wife! Very vital for a CEO because they have so few people they
can trust and are not supposed to show any weakness.
Part II - From the coach’s perspective
We are all about Sales Force Development, Training and Coaching. Our clients generate more revenue
within the first 90 days. Most clients tell us that the program more than pays for itself in that same
period of time. Our coaching/training is not "off the shelf" it is reinforced throughout each month for a
year at a time. Some clients have been with us for 10 years! They attribute their success with the
attitudes, behaviors and techniques that they learn to use with us; their Trainers and Personal Coaches.
___________________________________________________________________________________
I have been playing in this sandbox for many years. My perception is that a long time ago I was an
external consultant, then a performance consultant, then a productivity partner, then a just in time
advisor, then an independent team member, then back to business consultant and now a behavioral
performance coach. The name may change and the work stays the same. Only difference is that today,
more clients are using my coaching services and paying as individuals and not via their organizations. In
general, the value added is help for the organization or individual from an independent, qualified,
external professional.
___________________________________________________________________________________
It appears that it depends on how one practices consulting and how one practices coaching. As has been
pointed out in this thread, approaches to coaching range from being strictly focused on process (as in
enabling a client to discover her/his own solutions), to a combination of process and advisory services
couched in specialized industry expertise. A similar spectrum is present in consulting. So I'd suggest that
the difference (or similarity as the case may be) has more to do with the way one defines the respective
disciplines and her or his corresponding approach to the practice. At the end of the day it may not
matter as long as the client is deriving value from the process.
___________________________________________________________________________________
I am a career coach and offer that what clients ask for may not be what they need. Often someone will
say they just need to get the team in shape to get productivity up when in fact, they need to
communicate in a more empowering manner. Do this, don't do that are substituted with "this is our
objective, what do you think is the best way to get there" and other such dialog inducing conversations.
One client needed, for example to learn to discuss solutions rather than problems in order to keep
morale up and engage senior management. What he asked for was help becoming promoted...It's all a
process. Search Coach. To avoid confusion about my title, clients sometimes come to me to help them
get promotions and others, once I help them land the job, keep me on board as a career coach.
___________________________________________________________________________________
I have been a business consultant for over 20 years and most recently have worked with CEOs and
business owners in getting their businesses to the next level of success. I have never been a coach, but
want to learn more about this discipline. I would appreciate having a coach explain the differences
between a business consultant working with individuals and a business or personal coach.
___________________________________________________________________________________
Actually, a coach doesn't tell a person what they need. On the other hand they do help them see things
from different perspectives and become clearer about what they want so that they make decisions from
a different place. When we try to do things from what we think we "should" do - it usually doesn't work
as well as when we are "inspired" to take action. The other big thing that a coach can do is help a client
see what their limiting beliefs and repeating patterns are. Regarding leadership and business, it is often
difficult to find someone to talk to confidentially and to be challenged truthfully. They can then respond
to conflict or challenges in a better and more confident way. These are just a few of the many benefits
of coaching.
___________________________________________________________________________________
As I'm sure you know, the term "coach" often leads to misconceptions about what we as executive
coaches do to help our clients...The term conjures up images of sports coaches that tell their players
what to do, with a playbook even, and how to do it.
___________________________________________________________________________________
While I have done a lot of personal coaching, coaches have a wide variety of experience (and sometimes
lack thereof), and therefore might not have what you need. First ask yourself, what do I want from a
coach? How will I know that he or she is delivering value? What skill sets do I need to develop? After you
know exactly what you want, then look for a coach who can help you develop those particular skills. I
have run a number of small businesses, and departments in large corporations, plus I have an advanced
degree in psychology, so I usually coach small business owners or department supervisors who have
personal issues that are currently preventing them from becoming better managers. Other coaches have
other niches. Coaching is like any other product: Decide what you want to accomplish, what you need to
accomplish it, then find the coach with those skill sets.
___________________________________________________________________________________
Good discussion. Some people may perceive the consultant engages in episodic assessment, evaluation,
and training activities, whereas the coach provides ongoing support to brainstorm, identify, and
implement change. When I coach clients, I use the same skill sets as I do when consulting. The difference
is that as a coach, I provide more guidance and serve as a sounding board for executive directors to
explore management options. Another difference is that I work with the client to address personal skills
and leadership development.
___________________________________________________________________________________
I am a coach - but I also have a coach. What I value is her understanding of me and of the business I'm
in. She sees what I'm capable of when I don't and pushes me to accomplish it. I don't think I would be
where I am if not for her.
___________________________________________________________________________________
A Personal Coach could provide valuable insight in networking; resume writing, interviewing techniques,
career path (progression), etc. A Personal Coach can show you how to work the room regarding
networking events help with personal branding and career assessments. It seems that business coaches
are in demand for outplacement services and they are also utilized on college campuses in Career
Service Centers.
___________________________________________________________________________________
As a Business Coach I can confirm that my clients are looking to either deal with a current dilemma they
face or find ways to maximize their long term business performance. In either case they are focused on
the future and need help in planning to set and achieve goals.
___________________________________________________________________________________
I believe that coaching is a valuable tool for people in general (although you would probably expect me
to say that, wouldn't you). In my experience I have found that those people who invite me to coach
them in business later report benefits of our sessions to their personal lives and vice versa. I am
intrigued by the suggestion that I need to know about a client's business environment to successfully
coach them. I believe that, as a coach, I am helping them identify the trigger to their issue or challenge
and then enabling them to access the resources that they have in them to change their behaviour when
that trigger occurs again. I am not offering my solutions to their issue or challenge (how does my
solution help them become more resourceful) and I am not providing business advice to the person
(that, in my opinion is the role of a mentor who does need to be business knowledgeable).
___________________________________________________________________________________
I take a "holistic approach to business" so I see there is added value to knowing and understanding the
business sector and environment that the client is facing, as this will have impact on how you
coach/mentor/consult the individual or organization. I have been working in the HIV sector for a number
of years, primarily nonprofits, substance abuse shops, and departments of health. Recently I started
working as a coach with a young woman who was working as a manager in a department of health
union shop. While many of the other factors remained the same, the fact that she was in a union shop
changed my approach, due to the culture of unions. Motivational Interviewing is focused on
understanding the client and their situation, so that the work that coaching has a greater level of
relevance. How important it is for the service provider to understand the sector/environment will
inherently depend on several factors, i.e the nature and urgency of the engagement, the degree to
which the individual is seeking personal vs professional assistance, how much does the culture of the
organization dictate behavior etc. For example working with someone in the military would necessitate
understanding some of the nuances of military life. The more we understand the situation facing our
clients the more informed our interaction is.
___________________________________________________________________________________
Dick, I conduct business coaching and have found the most important piece of my engagement is
Accountability. That is, holding the business owner accountable to what "they" have agreed to do before
we meet again the following week. Most business owners actually enjoy having someone to be
accountable to (after a few weeks, that is!)
___________________________________________________________________________________
As a recently trained supervisor of coaches whether it is supervision or coaching so much depends on
the rapport built at the outset in order that challenging questions can be asked in a positive
environment. Coming from a line management background far too many people struggle with issues
owing to the fact they think it is a sign of weakness to have a coach. In fact the opposite is the case as
with the right focus and support people move very quickly with the aid of a coach. Coaching makes a
tangible difference to people and managers if the people want to be coached in the first place. It is good
to see coaching having a platform and being debated.
___________________________________________________________________________________
I work as a coach for both personal and professional development and I agree with Cora and others
about the role of the Coach. When people have asked me what coaching is all about, I think of it as
"helping people to help themselves" and I have LOADS of questions in my toolkit to help people to
understand their own patterns of behavior, what is stopping them to change, and importantly, what it
will take for them to transform their life. Once individuals recognize that they are often "standing in
their own way", it is amazing how quickly things can change and start putting their focus and energy in a
direction that is less stressful and more enjoyable.
This white paper is provided by :
Dick Huiras
President/CEO
H & A International
dhuiras@huirasassoc.com

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Coaching white paper

  • 1. White paper written by Dick Huiras Recently I posed a question on twelve of my LinkedIn groups regarding coaching. Each response is as it was written by the author, however, the author’s name has been omitted for privacy reasons. “ All opinions are expressly those of the clients, coaches and myself and are not intended to dictate if or how you should use a coach or market your coaching.” Part I - From the client’s point-of-view Part II - From the coach’s perspective The discussion post was as follows: Do you see value in business or personal coaching? One of the many things successful people have in common is a business and/or personal coach. If you see value in a coach, what would you want from- and how would you use your coach? I was amazed how quickly the responses started pouring into my email box. The responses are broken down into two categories, those written by clients and those written by coaches. The clients using coaches have expressed the importance of the coach being familiar with their industry. They felt that in a coaching environment too many questions or issues may be posed to the coach that were industry specific. They also indicated there is a big difference between coaches who are coaching an executive on the company and an executive in a company. The latter being an executive who is getting personal coaching rather than being coached as the CEO. Other studies have shown that companies over all are not paying for coaching, but are putting an importance on the individual to seek out coaching. Movement up the organizational ladder can be accelerated by the individuals initiatives to seek out professional growth through training and coaching. Part I - From the client’s point-of-view Yes I believe there is value in coaching if you are: Looking for something to be different or better. Ready to become more aware of your own strengths and development needs. Ready to take action. What I have found having worked with a few coaches is that when seeking a coach, I am looking for someone with expertise who can also act as a mentor for whatever challenge I want to work on. Bottom line in my view is that people need to be clear why they are hiring a coach. ___________________________________________________________________________________
  • 2. Dick, you asked: "If you see value in a coach, what would you want from- and how would you use your coach?" Absolutely see value in a coach. No question about it. What I want from a coach is feedback, i.e., positive and specific input on my performance so that I can play better. ___________________________________________________________________________________ There are 2 questions here. The headline questions value and the body asks what one would want. What is the question? Regarding value - yes, for some situations providing the coach is properly experienced and qualified in that area and recognizes his/her limits in knowledge and calls in professionals with more experience in some areas. The answer is not necessarily 'within us', but might be found with more research and with input from other professionals. It may not be a developmental issue; rather, it may be an information issue. It does separate people management and development from workflow so the responsibilities are clearer, and in some cases, it's not the person being coached but the 'boss' who is the problem and can be told so by the independent coach. For Independent Professionals working alone, coaching acts as a sounding board, an arm's length mirror/advocate and we all need one of those if we don't have a water fountain to visit regularly. How would I use a coach? If I had some issues where I needed independent feedback for a values or self management issue, but not for day to day business decisions and development because it's not a coach's area of expertise. I have seen a lot of damage done by coaches who tried to be all things, far beyond their knowledge. ___________________________________________________________________________________ Thank you Larry, I believe that answers my question. If I fully understand, what you're saying is that the skill sets for a consultant and coach are similar, the difference being whether you're working with an individual or an organization. ___________________________________________________________________________________ I think it depends how the coach works. If they can bring genuine value, then naturally it is worthwhile. However, if they state the obvious then, it is far more limited. I also think the rapport and trust between the coach and executive are crucial. Personal and business coaches may be useful if the person does not have a mentor, in particular if times are difficult and decisions, which are tough and complex, needs to be taken. This does require the coach to have prior experience from these types of situations/decisions. One can draw a parallel with the value of coaches to the value of management consultants. ___________________________________________________________________________________ Here is my opinion- As the saying goes" Wisdom is in having all the right questions and not having all the answers", I believe a coaches inherent quality should be of a student rather than an expert. I definitely see a huge value in the personal and business coaching in today’s environment where it forces all of us to keep focusing on improving our skills and making each other "sack proof ___________________________________________________________________________________
  • 3. Obviously, there are cultural differences in the way 'values' are perceived, even if they are said to be universal. At least as far as the Indian corporate environment is concerned, the term value is largely applicable to the individual, although, again, all corporate bodies claim to live by values (it is sad to admit that there is a good amount of cynicism on this side of Planet Earth). My personal take is that coaching can and should add value to the individual first, and then to the business he/she is in. ___________________________________________________________________________________ There is tremendous value in business coaching. Unfortunately many coaching schools tell their students "you don't have to know anything about someone's industry or what they do to coach them". I guess that's true if you're focused strictly on personal coaching, but bad advice if you want to work in a business environment. When I review coaches I always look for someone who has knowledge in whatever issue I'm facing (or the client is facing) as well as knowledge of that individual's work environment and/or role. ___________________________________________________________________________________ A coach is a perfect resource to help successfully transfer learning from a training back to the workplace. But it goes beyond that. When I first came to current company, I was assigned a mentor, who was essentially a coach. He helped me adjust to the new culture, was a resource when I had questions, and generally helped me get up to speed with my new work environment. On top of all this, he was my first "friend" at the company, which made my transition go so much more smoothly. ___________________________________________________________________________________ Coach or mentor - yes I see a great deal of value in them. They can help us look at situations differently than we are accustomed to. The can also help us look at ourselves more deeply. ___________________________________________________________________________________ Unfortunately, there are too many 'coaches' out there. I think it has watered down the effectiveness of the endeavor as a whole, so I would probably answer no, I don't see the value. ___________________________________________________________________________________ There are two types of coaching - so it would depend on what you are seeking. The first type of coaching - executive - works to fill gaps in knowledge, skills, and abilities by developing development plans and working to build an accountability network around the individual. This is often called coaching for results and involves a more directed approach based on the goals of the coachee. The second type is designed not to build skills or abilities, but to help individuals put the puzzle pieces together around an issue they are struggling with. This usually means most individuals have the knowledge somewhere inside them, but need help seeing it from a different perspective. This type involves questioning, encouragement and calls to action. ___________________________________________________________________________________
  • 4. I would have to say that a coach asks powerful questions that lead to new discoveries about self, behaviors, thought patterns and other human conditions. "Those people" that want/desire coaching are people who are willing to think outside the box, take risks and look outside themselves for inspiration. It’s a good healthy sign of humility. ___________________________________________________________________________________ Absolutely! It doesn't supersede the individual’s skills or expertise, but it allows that to unfold even more strongly since coaches have only one stake in the equation: to make you think more clearly about what you're facing. As a marketer, I often act as a "coach" to keep things moving in the right direction and to help find the solutions that already reside within the individual or the company. ___________________________________________________________________________________ Trust, discretion and competence are mandatory. ___________________________________________________________________________________ I think a business coach is excellent for keeping a business team focused on its overall goal. The sports analogy is over-used, perhaps, but true. A good coach can help identify each team member's strengths and weaknesses, and create ways for each member to contribute to the team's goals. ___________________________________________________________________________________ Yes, absolutely, as a solo performer in a niche business, residing in a rural setting, excellent coaching is vital necessity for keeping on a productive, track. Especially during time of change, a positive, experienced and focused mentor has been invaluable to keeping my creativity high and my business vision alive. I owe a great deal to my present coach. ___________________________________________________________________________________ Yes, it can have great value depending on (1) the goals; (2) the coach; and (3) the client's willingness to be coached. ___________________________________________________________________________________ Dick, I see a great value in coaching or mentoring in business. I use coaching and mentoring in my last three jobs in Iraq where I along with other team members mentored members of the Ministry og Defense/Logistics community and the same with members of the Iraqi Ministry of Interior's logistics community. In both cases, we were trying to setup logistics organizations and teach the members the basic concepts of logistics as used by the military in the United States. It worked extremely well. Thanks. ___________________________________________________________________________________ I do agree that the key attribute of an effective coach is in fact experience with success and failure and not in just a single field. This is an important item that should be thoroughly investigated prior to engaging in a contract with any trainer or coach.
  • 5. ___________________________________________________________________________________ Hi Dick, I agree with Dick but let me go a little further. There are lots of people calling themselves coaches who have no coach specific training nor a background that brings value to the client. What happens is a nice conversation, but no forward movement on the part of the client. There are lots of counterfeit coaches who don't have the necessary skills. Let me give you a sports analogy. Just because I coach my young son's basketball team, that doesn't give me the skills to coach an NBA team. Is coaching effective? Yes! Are all coaches competent? NO! ___________________________________________________________________________________ Dick, I noticed that your responses are thinly veiled advertisements from consultants. My experience as a recidivist entrepreneur, board member and advisor to multiple CEOs is that the key attributes of an effective coach are experience, discipline and forcefulness. The first - experience - is what most 'coaches' lack. I have written articles about this syndrome - the business failures acting as coaches. Here are some examples of my writings: I think that most coaches are disingenuous - they sell something that is far less effective than advertised mostly because they can't think of anything else to do. But, when you look behind the facade, you don't see evidence that they are successful. It is much like the promoter of a book that tells you how to grow rich doing something but, when you ask about how rich they are they tell you how busy they have been spreading the word. ___________________________________________________________________________________ I'm sure there is great value in coaching. Certainly most successful athletes have coaches. But I question whether it is fact that most successful people in business have a personal coach (unless we stretch the definition to include spouse, best mate and or business colleagues.) If I were to get a personal coach I would be looking for someone to help me improve my business performance (i.e. lead, manage, use time, etc. better.) A great book on coaching - The Inner Game of Tennis - (and not just for coaching sport) suggests that the best way to coach is to let the coachee observe best practice and absorb it without too much feedback. I can see this being difficult to implement in a business environment, but it does talk to the point that one of the best things that you can do is a get a boss is great at what she does and that you want to emulate. ___________________________________________________________________________________ All successful people have a confidant (or two) from whom they can learn and soundboard. I see it as a long term relationship - someone who knows me, my strengths and weaknesses, and who can tell me the bad news. My primary coach is my wife! Very vital for a CEO because they have so few people they can trust and are not supposed to show any weakness.
  • 6. Part II - From the coach’s perspective We are all about Sales Force Development, Training and Coaching. Our clients generate more revenue within the first 90 days. Most clients tell us that the program more than pays for itself in that same period of time. Our coaching/training is not "off the shelf" it is reinforced throughout each month for a year at a time. Some clients have been with us for 10 years! They attribute their success with the attitudes, behaviors and techniques that they learn to use with us; their Trainers and Personal Coaches. ___________________________________________________________________________________ I have been playing in this sandbox for many years. My perception is that a long time ago I was an external consultant, then a performance consultant, then a productivity partner, then a just in time advisor, then an independent team member, then back to business consultant and now a behavioral performance coach. The name may change and the work stays the same. Only difference is that today, more clients are using my coaching services and paying as individuals and not via their organizations. In general, the value added is help for the organization or individual from an independent, qualified, external professional. ___________________________________________________________________________________ It appears that it depends on how one practices consulting and how one practices coaching. As has been pointed out in this thread, approaches to coaching range from being strictly focused on process (as in enabling a client to discover her/his own solutions), to a combination of process and advisory services couched in specialized industry expertise. A similar spectrum is present in consulting. So I'd suggest that the difference (or similarity as the case may be) has more to do with the way one defines the respective disciplines and her or his corresponding approach to the practice. At the end of the day it may not matter as long as the client is deriving value from the process. ___________________________________________________________________________________ I am a career coach and offer that what clients ask for may not be what they need. Often someone will say they just need to get the team in shape to get productivity up when in fact, they need to communicate in a more empowering manner. Do this, don't do that are substituted with "this is our objective, what do you think is the best way to get there" and other such dialog inducing conversations. One client needed, for example to learn to discuss solutions rather than problems in order to keep morale up and engage senior management. What he asked for was help becoming promoted...It's all a process. Search Coach. To avoid confusion about my title, clients sometimes come to me to help them get promotions and others, once I help them land the job, keep me on board as a career coach. ___________________________________________________________________________________
  • 7. I have been a business consultant for over 20 years and most recently have worked with CEOs and business owners in getting their businesses to the next level of success. I have never been a coach, but want to learn more about this discipline. I would appreciate having a coach explain the differences between a business consultant working with individuals and a business or personal coach. ___________________________________________________________________________________ Actually, a coach doesn't tell a person what they need. On the other hand they do help them see things from different perspectives and become clearer about what they want so that they make decisions from a different place. When we try to do things from what we think we "should" do - it usually doesn't work as well as when we are "inspired" to take action. The other big thing that a coach can do is help a client see what their limiting beliefs and repeating patterns are. Regarding leadership and business, it is often difficult to find someone to talk to confidentially and to be challenged truthfully. They can then respond to conflict or challenges in a better and more confident way. These are just a few of the many benefits of coaching. ___________________________________________________________________________________ As I'm sure you know, the term "coach" often leads to misconceptions about what we as executive coaches do to help our clients...The term conjures up images of sports coaches that tell their players what to do, with a playbook even, and how to do it. ___________________________________________________________________________________ While I have done a lot of personal coaching, coaches have a wide variety of experience (and sometimes lack thereof), and therefore might not have what you need. First ask yourself, what do I want from a coach? How will I know that he or she is delivering value? What skill sets do I need to develop? After you know exactly what you want, then look for a coach who can help you develop those particular skills. I have run a number of small businesses, and departments in large corporations, plus I have an advanced degree in psychology, so I usually coach small business owners or department supervisors who have personal issues that are currently preventing them from becoming better managers. Other coaches have other niches. Coaching is like any other product: Decide what you want to accomplish, what you need to accomplish it, then find the coach with those skill sets. ___________________________________________________________________________________ Good discussion. Some people may perceive the consultant engages in episodic assessment, evaluation, and training activities, whereas the coach provides ongoing support to brainstorm, identify, and implement change. When I coach clients, I use the same skill sets as I do when consulting. The difference is that as a coach, I provide more guidance and serve as a sounding board for executive directors to explore management options. Another difference is that I work with the client to address personal skills and leadership development. ___________________________________________________________________________________
  • 8. I am a coach - but I also have a coach. What I value is her understanding of me and of the business I'm in. She sees what I'm capable of when I don't and pushes me to accomplish it. I don't think I would be where I am if not for her. ___________________________________________________________________________________ A Personal Coach could provide valuable insight in networking; resume writing, interviewing techniques, career path (progression), etc. A Personal Coach can show you how to work the room regarding networking events help with personal branding and career assessments. It seems that business coaches are in demand for outplacement services and they are also utilized on college campuses in Career Service Centers. ___________________________________________________________________________________ As a Business Coach I can confirm that my clients are looking to either deal with a current dilemma they face or find ways to maximize their long term business performance. In either case they are focused on the future and need help in planning to set and achieve goals. ___________________________________________________________________________________ I believe that coaching is a valuable tool for people in general (although you would probably expect me to say that, wouldn't you). In my experience I have found that those people who invite me to coach them in business later report benefits of our sessions to their personal lives and vice versa. I am intrigued by the suggestion that I need to know about a client's business environment to successfully coach them. I believe that, as a coach, I am helping them identify the trigger to their issue or challenge and then enabling them to access the resources that they have in them to change their behaviour when that trigger occurs again. I am not offering my solutions to their issue or challenge (how does my solution help them become more resourceful) and I am not providing business advice to the person (that, in my opinion is the role of a mentor who does need to be business knowledgeable). ___________________________________________________________________________________ I take a "holistic approach to business" so I see there is added value to knowing and understanding the business sector and environment that the client is facing, as this will have impact on how you coach/mentor/consult the individual or organization. I have been working in the HIV sector for a number of years, primarily nonprofits, substance abuse shops, and departments of health. Recently I started working as a coach with a young woman who was working as a manager in a department of health union shop. While many of the other factors remained the same, the fact that she was in a union shop changed my approach, due to the culture of unions. Motivational Interviewing is focused on understanding the client and their situation, so that the work that coaching has a greater level of relevance. How important it is for the service provider to understand the sector/environment will inherently depend on several factors, i.e the nature and urgency of the engagement, the degree to which the individual is seeking personal vs professional assistance, how much does the culture of the organization dictate behavior etc. For example working with someone in the military would necessitate
  • 9. understanding some of the nuances of military life. The more we understand the situation facing our clients the more informed our interaction is. ___________________________________________________________________________________ Dick, I conduct business coaching and have found the most important piece of my engagement is Accountability. That is, holding the business owner accountable to what "they" have agreed to do before we meet again the following week. Most business owners actually enjoy having someone to be accountable to (after a few weeks, that is!) ___________________________________________________________________________________ As a recently trained supervisor of coaches whether it is supervision or coaching so much depends on the rapport built at the outset in order that challenging questions can be asked in a positive environment. Coming from a line management background far too many people struggle with issues owing to the fact they think it is a sign of weakness to have a coach. In fact the opposite is the case as with the right focus and support people move very quickly with the aid of a coach. Coaching makes a tangible difference to people and managers if the people want to be coached in the first place. It is good to see coaching having a platform and being debated. ___________________________________________________________________________________ I work as a coach for both personal and professional development and I agree with Cora and others about the role of the Coach. When people have asked me what coaching is all about, I think of it as "helping people to help themselves" and I have LOADS of questions in my toolkit to help people to understand their own patterns of behavior, what is stopping them to change, and importantly, what it will take for them to transform their life. Once individuals recognize that they are often "standing in their own way", it is amazing how quickly things can change and start putting their focus and energy in a direction that is less stressful and more enjoyable. This white paper is provided by : Dick Huiras President/CEO H & A International dhuiras@huirasassoc.com