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State of
the inline
debate
A.K.A: “WYSIWTFFTWOMGROFL”
Rasmus Skjoldan @ Jboye CMS Experts Europe, Oracle – october 2013
I’m a UX’er.
Not technical and
very bad at numbers
(80% out of 5500 and you’ve lost me – and who is this JSON guy really?)
How on earth
did we start
debating inline?
Mobile changed
desktop web
from 1 – to many
The WYSIWYG editing
dream turned into a
nightmare when
embracing COPE
COPE this dude!
WYSIWYG inline editing
makes users forget
metadata (oh no!)
“The era where we
privilege the desktop
web interface above
all others is over”
WYSIWTF
http://alistapart.com/column/wysiwtf
Jeff Eaton
http://www.lullabot.com/blog/article/inline-editing-and-cost-leaky-abstractions
So I asked @eaton on his take on the State of the inline debate and gave him
write-access to these slides. Here’s what he wrote:
“Visual layout tools will always be with us, but the
explosion of channels and devices means that
many organizations will have to find a different
way.
Short-lived marketing content and page-focused
tools are an easy fit. But for businesses that treat
their content as a long-term asset, tools that
prioritize the underlying meaning are critical.”
Jeff Eaton
Ugly arrow points
to important part
http://buytaert.net/wysiwyg-and-in-place-editing-for-structured-
Leisa Reichelt told me:
“Commit to
multi-channel”
PS: “You will fail. Miserably.”
Where to draw the lines?
Long-lived content /
Known channels /
Purified content /
Content stays /
Short-lived content
Unknown channels
Social updates
Templates die
WYSIFTW
rasmusskjoldan.com/post/58364140673/wysiftw
Karen says hi...
Mark Boulton said:
www.markboulton.co.uk/journal/wysiwtfftwomg
Is preview even possible?
How do you preview
content in an unknown
or future channel?
“Creators need an immediate
connection to what they create”
http://vimeo.com/36579366
My own principle building TYPO3 Neos:
Creators need
to experiment
with content
in different
contexts
* Breaking * Breaking * Breaking *
Preview is not
just about
devices
Previewing is many
different things...
● Content in one particular context
● Same content via different templates
● Same content on different websites
● Same content on entirely different channels
● Search appearances
● Social media appearances
● Personalized, differentiated versions
● A/B testing variants
● Different workflow previews
● Languages
● …and yes, devices & responsive widths
Editing and
previewing are
intimately
connected
Previewing
is no fun
when it’s an
after-thought
From edit to preview and back
“oh no, I have to go back and fix that typo”
The first Neos workflow from
editing to previewing:
The state of the
inline debate
is…
*Drumroll*
It’s not about
inline editing!
It’s about
tailoring the
authoring
experience on a
whole new level
Examples...
Let user experiment with
editing and previewing in different ways
Experiment, fail, fail, fail, succeed...
Here you have inline editing but in an abstract view.
No in-page editing but inline in a backend mode.
How will this look on
Little Printer?
Integrator decides on editing and
previewing together with client:
Variations are endless
Customized backend template for
simple content variant:
User can customize
preview presets:
To Inline or not to Inline
is not the question
/ In many cases you’ll have to include possibilities of both
WYSIWYG inline and more abstract interfaces
/ Tailor the authoring experience on project-basis
/ Sometimes you need inline, in-page editing
– sometimes you don’t
rasmusskjoldan.com

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