After far too long a wait this is finally finished. Years ago I was asked by a fellow preacher to write a book concerning the teaching and doctrine of the fullness of the Holy Spirit and the liberty of speaking in tongues.
It went on the back burner, I could never see the importance of published books and I'm still faintly bemused by the fact that I had a perfectly good set of working notes on the subject of "How to Say It" which was about the skill of putting a message together for effective preaching. Hardly anybody showed any interest in the working notes until another friend of mine published it in a hardback cover. I never cease to be amazed at the gullibility of us all who tend to look on the outside and not at the heart of the matter.
Once I got interested in multimedia presentations and the effects of social media style ministry I decided, as unto the Lord, that I ought to publish some plain scriptural content concerning the revelation of The Gift of the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues in general.
This is number seven in the series and it looks at the implications of the teaching of the Word of God in the first book of Corinthians and how many have come to wrest the word of God to the loss of many and the confusion of most. Here is to letting a little plain scriptural light into the dimness of our understanding in the hope that we will be flooded with joy and power upon realising that this gift is for us and our children and for as many as the Lord our God shall call.
The case for speaking in tongues 7 – Corinthian Considerations.
1. The Case for Speaking in Tongues 7
Corinthian Considerations
2. • THE IMPLICATIONS OF "DO ALL SPEAK IN
TONGUES?”
• You will need to understand the difference
between a GIFT and a MANIFESTATION
DO ALL SPEAK IN TONGUES?
3. • 2 Peter 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in
them of these things; in which are some things hard
to be understood, which they that are unlearned
and unstable wrest, as they do also the other
scriptures, unto their own destruction.
The Plain Fact
• One difficulty is that we think that
anybody with a higher education
is automatically ‘learned’ – this is
not the meaning here.
4. • The purpose of this work is to explain this riddle.
• 1 Corinthians 12:30 Have all the gifts of healing? do
all speak with tongues? do all interpret?
• Do all speak with tongues?
The Riddle
• The various answers to this
question have been the cause
of much misunderstanding.
5. • Do All Speak with Tongues?
• The purpose of this series to put this
question into its proper context
Let’s Answer This Question
• Then to provide you with a
clear statement of
understanding.
6. • NO is not always the correct answer!
• The simple answer to this question is "NO"
• - but this is only in a certain context of church order.
• Outside of questions of church order the answer in a
different context should be "YES".
The Answer in the Context
• This is because we who are
truly saved ALL have the
Holy Spirit
7. • THE STATEMENT "TONGUES HAVE CEASED":
• There is a simple answer to this if you read
the text.
Will Tongues Cease?
• 1 Corinthians 13:8 Charity never faileth:
but whether there be prophecies, they
shall fail; whether there be tongues, they
shall cease; whether there be knowledge,
it shall vanish away.
8. • Has knowledge vanished? NO.
• Are we in a time when true prophecies of the word of
God fail? Hardly.
• ¿Has knowledge vanished away? Hardly.
• So why then must tongues be ceased?
Consider this
• They haven’t ceased.
9. • In order to get around this question there have
been some simply ludicrous attempts at
explaining what it is that is described by the
term “when that which is perfect is come.”
Incredulous Attempts
• 1 Corinthians 13:10 But when
that which is perfect is come,
then that which is in part shall be
done away.
10. • Some bible teachers and scholars have always fallen
over themselves to try and explain how the ever present
now, the Lord Jesus Christ the same yesterday today and
for ever has somehow placed his word and the
revelation of his word into strict dispensational packets
of time.
When you try to make it fit
11. • I think that the Pentecostals made a tactical
error with this in simply relying on a saying
that suggests that the person with the
experience is never at the mercy of the person
with an argument.
A Tactical Error
• Everything that we Christians
experience ought to be confirmed by
the scriptures and in the mouth of 2 or
3 witnesses of these scriptures.
12. • I have read answers to this that range from the
arrival of the King James Bible in 1611 to a new
movement of love and unity to bring all
Christian churches into one meeting place or
organisation.
Building Castles in the Air
13. • There is one hope that we are looking for
and that is the physical return of the Lord
Jesus Christ according to the promise of the
word of God.
The One Hope
• We haven’t arrived at this yet
so “that which is in part” has
not yet been done away.
14. • To understand whether tongues have
ceased or not we need to consider the word
of God.
Have Tongues Ceased?
15. • To get the context of this we need to go back to
• At verse 17 Paul declares to them that he does
not praise them because, when they come
together, it is not for better but it is for worse.
The Correct Setting
• 1 Corinthians 11:17 Now in this that I
declare unto you I praise you not, that
ye come together not for the better,
but for the worse.
16. • 1 Corinthians 11:17-22 17 Now in this that I declare
unto you I praise you not, that ye come together not
for the better, but for the worse. 18 For first of all,
when ye come together in the church, I hear that
there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
Let’s read it
17. • 19 For there must be also heresies among
you, that they which are approved may be
made manifest among you.
Divisions Need Approved Oversight
18. • 20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat
the Lord's supper. 21 For in eating every one taketh before other his
own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken. 22 What?
have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of
God, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I
praise you in this? I praise you not.
The Lord’s Supper Overturned
• I praise you not
19. • The above section deals with their attitude and
behaviour concerning the table the Lord.
• This whole section of 1 Corinthians deals with what
goes on when they come together as a church in a
meeting.
I Praise You Not
20. • These chapters are all about church order and
the way in which meetings of praise, worship,
prayer and the ministry of the word are
conducted by the assembling together of the
church.
Church Order
21. • 1 Corinthians 11:33 Wherefore, my brethren, when
ye come together to eat, tarry one for another.
• Then he reiterates in verse 33 that when they come
together they should tarry one for another.
This Church Order Theme Continues
• The context of the correction in
statements is still when they
come together as a church or a
church meeting.
22. • 1 Corinthians 11:33-34 33 Wherefore, my brethren,
when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another. 34
And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye
come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will
I set in order when I come.
I Would Set in Order
23. • V 34 ……. that ye come not together …. the rest will I set in
order…….
• All of his instructions are concerning the way in which church
order is established and practised among the churches to the
glory of God, the edification of the saints and the preaching of
the gospel so that unbelievers will be converted.
That You Come Not Together
24. • Having Dealt with the Table of the Lord
• Having dealt with the attitude and practices concerning the
table the Lord he then moves on to spiritual gifts and the
context is still church order, still within the framework of the
church coming together or having meetings.
This Setting Continues
25. • The theme of church order continues
concerning instructions about the use of
spiritual gifts within the meeting context
Concerning Spiritual Gifts
• 1 Corinthians 12:1 Now
concerning spiritual gifts,
brethren, I would not have you
ignorant.
26. • The general instructions that follow from here all
the way through to chapter 14
• Chapter 11 lays the foundation, apart from the
break in chapter 13, and is dealing with, primarily,
church order.
Right the Way through Chapter 14
27. • You can see this in the following verse
• 1 Corinthians 14:26 How is it then, brethren? when ye
come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a
doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an
interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.
Consider This Verse
• when ye come together
28. • 1 Corinthians 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but
of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
• And then goes on about the behaviour of women and various
other aspects all within the context of the church coming
together in one place and dealing with church order as such.
This continues in
29. • 1 Corinthians 14:40 Let all things be done
decently and in order.
• This is the context that the instructions and
comments should be seen in.
He concludes with this admonition
30. • 1 Corinthians 14:39 Wherefore, brethren, covet to
prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.
• So the instructions are concerning church order and
not part of our everyday walk in life.
In fact he sums it up like this
31. • Let’s take a closer look at these instructions
concerning the operation of the gifts of the spirit.
• 1 Corinthians 12:1 Now concerning spiritual gifts,
brethren, I would not have you ignorant.
These Instructions
• When it comes to spiritual
gifts God does not want us
to be ignorant about them.
32. • you can’t speak by the spirit of God and call
Jesus accursed and no man can say that
Jesus is the Lord but by the Holy Ghost.
1st of all
33. • If you appreciate them you’ll be able to understand the context of this
teaching of the word of God.
• 1 Corinthians 12:4-7 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same
Spirit. 5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same
Lord. 6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God
which worketh all in all. 7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given
to every man to profit withal.
Now follow 4 verses
• 7 But the manifestation of
the Spirit is given to every
man to profit withal.
34. • There are diversities of gifts
• There are differences of administrations of
gifts
• There are diversities of operations of gifts
We can see that:
35. • It is the same spirit
• It is the same Lord
• It is the same God that work at all in all
• But the manifestation of the spirit is given to every man
to profit everybody.
But
36. • and outworking of these gifts and the
manifestation.
• So we have different gifts that have different
manifestations and have different operations.
Now comes the description
37. • The body of teaching of this passage to the
Corinthians is about the manifestation of an
operation of these gifts in the context of the
church coming together in one place.
This Is the Body of This Teaching
• He sets out the conditions, the
administration, of the operation
of the manifestation of these
gifts.
38. • it is a same spirit, Lord and God operating in
them all.
• The aim is that everybody is edified and the
church is comforted.
He reminds them that
39. • prophecy, discernment of spirits, divers kinds of
tongues and interpretation of tongues.
• He instructs that all of these work by the one and
self same spirit divided to everybody severally as he
wills.
This includes
40. • is because the body, although it is one, has many
members and the members although many are in
actual fact one body.
• It is one body with many members. Each member
needs the other because they make up one body.
The explanation in verse 12
41. • to say that there should be no schism in the body
and that the members should have the same care
one for another.
• Verse 27 so we are one body of Christ and members
in particular.
Verse 25 sums it up
42. • the type of members that God has set in the body
• 1st Apostles, 2nd prophets, 3rd teachers, after that
miracles, then gifts of healing, helps, governments
and diversities of tongues.
Now comes the description of
43. • because there are many members and those members have
different manifestations, administrations and operations
• Are all Apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Are all
workers of miracles? Have all gifts of healing? Do all speak with
tongues? Do all interpret?
He then asked the question –
• The answer to this string of
questions in this context is
emphatically NO
44. • the answer is no.
• Verse 21 tells us to covet earnestly the best gifts and
then he says I show you a more excellent way which
is 1 Corinthians 13 about charity and how this holds
the church together in the purpose of God.
In the operation of the church
45. • because verse 8 tells us that charity will never fail but
prophecies will fail tongues will cease and knowledge shall pass
away.
• He says we know in part and we prophesy in part BUT when that
which is perfect is come then that which is in part shall be done
away.
We need to consider chapter 13
46. • This is the 1st explanation and endorsement of
charity
• – charity will last – charity is the only one of charity,
hope and faith that will make it through into the
next life.
Charity Will Last
• The word charity in the context of the King
James Bible always only means love
between brethren in Christ Jesus in
between God and the children of light.
47. • The word charity is never used in reference to the unsaved.
• I have always found this to be interesting because we turn
around and use the word charity to indicate actions of love
towards those less fortunate than ourselves and particularly to
those outside of the body of Christ.
King James Bible Charity
48. • He adds that it is like being a child and speaking as a child and
then becoming a man – the childish things are put away
• He then makes a statement about seen through a glass darkly
but then face to face, about knowing in part but then I shall
know even as I am known.
Know As I Am Known
49. • This makes it clear that he is talking about
our face-to-face meeting with the Lord Jesus
Christ when he returns the 2nd time.
This is the face-to-face meeting
50. • to follow after charity but to desire spiritual
gifts but rather that we prophesy.
Chapter 14 begins with instructions
51. • Verse 2 tells us an important thing about
speaking in tongues – we don’t speak unto
men but we do speak unto God – no man
understands what we say but in the spirit we
speak mysteries.
This Is Important
• This is why when you speak in tongues in
the church, that is when there is a meeting
happening, there must be an
interpretation of those tongues otherwise
you are not in order.
52. • if there is no interpretation of tongues
manifest then you must keep silence or
speak those tongues under your breath.
No Gift of Interpretation
• 1 Corinthians 14:28 But if there
be no interpreter, let him keep
silence in the church; and let him
speak to himself, and to God.
53. • You are exhorted to pray that you may
interpret
Pray That You Interpret
• 1 Corinthians 14:13 Wherefore
let him that speaketh in an
unknown tongue pray that he
may interpret.
54. • Verse 5 he says that he would that they all spoke in tongues but rather
that they prophesied because the church must receive edifying.
• 1 Corinthians 14:5 I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather
that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that
speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may
receive edifying.
Would that they ALL spoke in Tongues
• that the church may
receive edifying
55. • When you prophesy, according to verse 3 you
speak to the congregation edification,
exhortation and comfort. When you speak in
tongues you edify yourself and not the church
Edify Yourself
56. • When you speak in tongues and those tongues are
interpreted then according to verse 5 & 6 the church
will receive revelation, knowledge, prophesying and
doctrine these are the things that build up the body
of Christ and edify the church.
Edify the church
57. • Speaking in tongues without interpretation
cannot achieve the edification of the body
of Christ because, simply, nobody
understands what is said.
This Will Not Edify the Body
58. • In fact speaking in tongues without
interpretation gives an uncertain sound and
you become a Barbarian as far as the
congregation are concerned.
An Uncertain Sound
59. • Verse 12 says that we should be zealous of
spiritual gifts so that we may excel in edifying
the church and so verse 13 if you speak in an
unknown tongue you should pray that you may
interpret.
We Should Be Zealous of Spiritual Gifts
60. • Verse 14 & 15 endorses speaking in unknown
tongue with prayer and song but obviously not in a
church setting if there is no interpretation.
• Therefore he is advocating speaking and singing in
tongues in your every day life and prayer life.
This Is the Endorsement
61. • Daily everyday speaking in tongues
• Why? Because when you speak in an unknown
tongue you speak mysteries unto God and you
edify yourself and build yourself up.
I Speak in Other Tongues Daily
62. • 1 Corinthians 14:16 Else when thou shalt bless
with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the
room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving
of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what
thou sayest?
Verse 16 if you bless in the spirit
• – praise God by speaking in
tongues – how shall someone
who is unlearned and say amen at
your giving thanks?
63. • The answer is they can’t but the truth is you are giving
thanks well but the other is not edified so he says I will
give thanks in fact I thank God that I speak in tongues
more than you all yet in the church he says I’d rather
speak 5 words of my understanding than 10,000 words
in tongues.
They can’t join in
64. • Paul is obviously making a difference
between talking in tongues in his everyday
life and speaking in tongues in the church.
Both have their place.
See the difference here
65. • 1 Corinthians 14:21 In the law it is written, With men of other
tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for
all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord.
• Verse 21 tongues is spoken of in the law and tongues are a sign
to the unbeliever or those that believe not whereas prophesying
serves those that believe.
Tongues are a sign
66. • Suggesting when the whole church
• Speaks, prays or sings in tongues together is a sign to the
unbelievers is not on.
• This is not an excuse for us all in a church meeting to pray or sing
in tongues so that we can be a sign to the unbelievers that might
be there.
A False Premise
• The scriptures have already
made this quite clear.
67. • 1 Corinthians 14:23 If therefore the whole church be come together
into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those
that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad?
• In fact verse 23 go so far as to say if therefore the whole church is
come together in one place and all speak with tongues and there come
in one that is unlearned or unbelievers will they not say you are mad?
The scriptures are emphatic
• I mean, how clear is this.
68. • When we are all together in one place worshipping
the Lord tongues have to be interpreted and
prophesying serves to reveal the secrets of the heart
and any unlearned or unbelievers become
convinced of all and are judged of all.
The rule is clear
69. • 1 Corinthians 14:26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together,
every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a
revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.
• Verse 26 underlines this by saying “let all things be done unto
edifying” when we come together we may have a Psalm, a doctrine, a
revelation or a tongue and interpretation.
Done unto edifying
• Let all things be done unto
edifying
70. • 1 Corinthians 14:27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two,
or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.
• 1 Corinthians 14:29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other
judge.
• We will see that there is a limit to these manifestations but everybody – that is
the spirit filled members of the body – are to be open for God to move upon
them with a manifestation of the gifts of the spirit in this operation.
Yes there are limits
• let it be by two, or at the
most by three
• speak two or three
71. • When you consider the full body of the
scriptures it is plain to see that the promise of
the Father is the gift of the Holy Spirit to every
believer that is manifested by speaking in
other tongues.
The whole council of the scriptures
72. • The Spirit moves but we are responsible
• This operation is exercised at the volition of each
believer.
• 1 Corinthians 14:32 And the spirits of the prophets
are subject to the prophets.
The Spirit Prompts
• We received this gift by faith and
we can pray and/or sing in other
tongues as we decide to or are
moved on by the spirit of God.
73. • When we come together as the body of Christ
in the name of the Lord Jesus we should be
desirous of having the spirit of God use us to
edify and build up our brethren in the body.
Motivated to edify the church
74. • God does this by manifesting one of the gifts of the spirit
through us for that particular occasion.
• If that manifestation is speaking out loud in other tongues then
that manifestation must be interpreted in a language that is
understood by the assembled congregation that consists of
brethren in Christ and the unsaved.
God edifies his church
75. • It is important to understand, I think, that there is a
difference between a gift and a manifestation.
• We all have the gift of the Holy Spirit and can, if we but
realised it, speak in unknown tongues to worship and
glorify God and build ourselves up in the inner man.
The Gift & the Manifestation
76. • The operation of the gift in a meeting
• The operation of this gift of the Holy Spirit in a meeting is really
a manifestation.
• We don’t operate this as a personal gift, we need to be moved
on by the Holy Spirit each time in the meeting as such.
This Is a Manifestation of the Spirit
• Although we do become very
much attuned as to when the
spirit of God would want to move
on us in such a way.
77. • This manifestation is not ours to demonstrate when
and how we like.
• We are accountable to abide within the guidelines
of the scriptures when bringing tongues messages in
meetings.
Not ours to manifest as we like
78. • In our daily walk we talk, pray and sing in tongues giving thanks well,
praising God and building ourselves up in our most holy faith
• At church we wait on the Lord and if we speak out in tongues as the
Spirit gives utterance we know that interpretation of tongues will also
be manifested that the whole church will be edified.
So then
79. • 1 Corinthians 14:39-40 39 Wherefore,
brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not
to speak with tongues. 40 Let all things be
done decently and in order.
The Sum of the Matter
80. • When we come together we have liberty but
we have order that the “other” is edified.
• We limit our liberties, gifts and manifestations
for the good of the whole
How is it then brethren
81. • In the congregation that is carried
throughout every member to the glory of
God.
And so charity flows
Editor's Notes
This is about knowing the mind of God, the spirit of God, the Word of God and being grown up in the image of Christ.
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The carnal mind, the natural mind and the things of the flesh mostly manage to misinterpret the meaning of the word of God and particularly the writings of Paul the apostle.
will come back to this question a little later.
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The context in this passage for this particular question IS NO because we are dealing with church order
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The context of this question concerning the normal everyday experience of people filled to overflowing with the Holy Spirit is emphatically YES.
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The misunderstanding concerning this passage of Scripture has caused a lot of confusion since before the Dark Ages.
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Earlier sessions in this series have explained the scriptural foundation that all born-again believers receive the Holy Spirit and can be filled to overflowing with the evidence of speaking in other tongues.
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This is THE GIFT; THE PROMISE OF THE FATHER
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This passage of Scripture speaks of the manifestation of the gifts of the spirit which operate through the body of Christ amongst those who have received The Gift of the Holy Ghost.
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In this session we will look at the meaning of the Scriptures in 1 Corinthians concerning the use and operations of speaking in tongues in the context of a meeting together of the church.
We will consider if and when tongues have ceased yet.
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To answer this question sensibly we need to ask the same question concerning prophecies, tongues and knowledge – have biblical and spiritually inspired prophecies already failed? Have speaking in tongues, in languages that we have never learnt already ceased? Has knowledge actually already vanished away?
The simple question to ask is, “has that which is in part been done away?”
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Do we actually see everything face-to-face?
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Do we actually know as we are known?
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Reading the passage itself should clear this up!
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1 Corinthians 13:10-13 10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. 11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. 13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
Starting at the very 1st verse of the Bible by saying there were some type of pre-creation and then setting finite lines of how God means us to interpret and adjust the plain text of the scriptures depending on the date that we look at them in.
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As far as I can see there is and always will be truth, grace & faith until Jesus comes back in person to rule the earth.
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Admittedly there was a shadow of things yet to come but the substance always included the shadow.
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After all there were Apostles that didn’t actually write any scriptures at tall as far as the Canon of scriptures go (i.e. not all the Apostles who were indeed Apostles wrote the word of God so then Apostles were not Apostles simply because they wrote the word of God) so why do we say that the Christians who lived at the time of the Apostles are to interpret the written word of God any differently from those who live a mere couple of thousand years later when we are dealing with God and his only begotten Son who lives outside of time.
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I believe it is a bold person indeed who applies strict dispensational interpretation to passages of Scripture that the Apostles themselves make no mention of.
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Why didn’t Paul or one of those men tell us in plain language that much of the teaching that they were writing about would one day have no literal meaning at all.
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After all there are plenty of scriptures to tell us what was shadow and what was substance concerning the difference between the old covenant and the new covenant.
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Apparently I’m a simpleton because I take the scriptures to be the word of God as they are written.
What follows this statement exists in the context of the church coming together.
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He seeks to correct their behaviour and practices so that they will come together for better and not for worse.
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The whole context of the passage is about church order and what should and should not be their practice and experience.
He is still speaking within the context of the church coming together and the type of order that ought to exist for the edification and benefit of every member including any unlearned or unbelievers who are attending the service.
It doesn’t matter how gifted or what gifts you may manifest if you haven’t got charity then you are missing the point completely.
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He is not saying that the gifts are of no consequence or that the gifts are passed away.
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He is saying that you can have these gifts that come from God and yet not have charity.
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If this is the case then you will not properly discern the purpose that God has in giving you these gifts because the gifts are given to edify and comfort the church as a whole.
If they are spoken out loud, in a meeting, they must be interpreted otherwise the church is in disorder.
1 Corinthians 14:12-13 12 Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church. 13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.
1 Corinthians 14:14-15 14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful. 15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.