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Now at Ninety
Photographed by
NABIL
Written by
Fiona Alison Duncan
EDMOSES
THE SENSATIONAL
80 81
Scratch Up — 2016. Untitled — 2016. Untitled — 2016, acrylic on canvas.
Untitled — 1975, acrylic on canvas.
The art of Ed Moses isn’t iconic. Wavering and receding,
reflecting, emitting, his paintings and drawings posture rather like
nature, like heated lava rock, sun passing through palm fronds,
drought-bleached grass, a desert mirage, moth wings, shut-eye
phosphenes, and the mauve of jacaranda as it rusts in late-May
bloom. One recalls, after experiencing them, the sensational
experience of them — that rather than an image that sticks.
His being is similar, down-to-earth and ethereal. Or, that’s how it
seemed to me when we met on a Monday morning in his Venice
studio backyard. The artist was weary after a restless night. I had
nightmares, too. We agreed it must be in the air. “Certain people
catch it,” he said.
Born April 9, 1926, in Long Beach, Calif., Ed Moses has been
breathing over three times longer than I. He’s been painting since
his early 20s and still is. His output is prolific. In his studio home,
dozens of finished canvases hang, dozens more are stored, several
are in process and a neighborhood away, in Santa Monica, at
William Turner Gallery, even more are on show. That exhibit
is called MOSES@90, and the man tells me it’s selling well.
“I’m making a lot of money,” Moses disclosed. “I’m going to give
it to my friends because I don’t need it.”
Moses told me many things. He directed our interview,
set a stage — we began in a room with a lofted roof, sitting before
pale matte pictures. He explained how they’re inspired by his
front yard, which he calls “The Garden of Forking Paths,” or
“Forking Tongues,” a play on the name of a short story by Jorge
Luis Borges from his book Labyrinths. Moses pronounces Borges
like bore-hey-zee. His copy of Labyrinths, which he had an assistant
retrieve for me, is marked primarily in red and yellow ink. During
our hour together, Moses led me inside, outside, then in and back
out again. Our talk took similar turns. We’d go abstract then he’d
veer us back — to the paintings hanging, our Venice setting, how
the neighborhood is changing, etc. Moses asked me questions,
and he anticipated three I’d prepared. “The point is not to be in
control,” he has said, “but to be in tune.” The first question he
preempted happened early, when he mentioned that, “I never
know what I’m doing.”
I’ve heard you say that before. I wanted to ask about that.
I get on a path and do whatever is required based on my intuitive
responses to the situation. I put paint on, wash it off, add to it
again. My craquelure works come from an early Mondrian
painting I saw, where the divisions at the horizontal lines crackled
as the paint, over the years, expanded and contracted. I said,
“Wouldn’t it be great if I could get a whole field of crackles?”
That would be the subject, or the discovery, a part of being on
the labyrinth. I’ve been on the labyrinth all of my life, with no
particular direction, just looking and mutating on what’s going.
It’s a continual travel in the labyrinth, in the garden of forking
tongues. I say forking tongues. As in the mouth? We operate
with forked tongues. What does that mean? I’ve told so many
lies all my life, I never know what’s the truth anymore. I was
going to ask about lies, too, because I was reading this
book, West of Eden, and someone in it said that you lied
about your age in order to get into the Navy as a young man.
I wondered what other lies you’ve told? Oh, I forgot about
that. I always lied because I’ve never been satisfied with the
situation, so I’d invent one. I make it up, I storyline. The truth is
relative to my lies. And the energy that comes from lying extends
my consciousness to where I’d like to be rather than where I am.
When I’m painting, I’m imagining ways to extend what I’m
looking at. This one painting, for example, I painted over and
then I drew these lines with a squirt gun of paint, and when I
washed them off, they left traces, which made another painting.
Then, I wanted another level, to bring it up to the frontal plane.
I want to be up in front. I want to be counted. I want people to
count me — or, not decode me, but to read what I’ve put down,
and what I’ve put down are a bunch of counteractions to what’s
there. They’re like lying. It’s interesting you call creating like
this lying. I never tell the truth. Are you lying right now? I could
be. That’s a trap. Like a labyrinth. My life is a labyrinth. It keeps
folding back and mutating, folding back and mutating.
“MOMENT TO MOMENT TO
MOMENTISNOW.”
83
I wanted to speak with you about Buddhism. I know that you’re a longtime
student of it. I was introduced to a great Tibetan Buddhist teacher called
[Chögyam] Trungpa Rinpoche. I liked Buddhism because it dealt with the
phenomenal rather than the imaginary world. You sit and you watch your mind
— that’s the discipline. Whenever a thought comes in, you say, thinking, and
you see if you can hit the zone of now. Not yesterday or tomorrow but now.
Each moment is now. Moment to moment to moment is now. My paintings
have something to do with that teaching, dealing with the phenomenal world.
The world is phenomenal. I felt so naughty when I was young, and I would be
caught in a lie. You want to cover up that lie. My paintings are cover-ups of lies
about the phenomenal world. Do you think you can tell when someone’s lying
to you? Sometimes, of course, being a master liar myself. I catch expressions.
People let it go; their face changes. What’s a lie you told recently? This situation
right now is a lie. How so? Because I’m making it up. As in you manifest it, or
… Sure, I manifest it. Didn’t I manifest it as well? Can you? I think so. Youwould
know. You’ve been in love before, haven’t you? Absolutely. I wanted to talk to you
about love, actually. Your partner, who you remarried after a long separation
… Almost 35 years. Incredible. I realized that I loved her all the time. And she
realized that she loved me, too. She said, “I don’t know why.” She’s a student
of Buddhism, much more serious and more disciplined than I am. Could you
share something that she’s taught you? Yeah, about lying. She never liked the
fact that I lied. Well, it makes it difficult to have a relationship. Trust. Trust is
a factor. It should be major — that you can trust the phenomenal world. But
you can’t trust it, because you make it up. Is that a spider on that painting over
there? Yes. I have a terrible fear of spiders. I told one of my teachers this, and
he said, “You’ve got to make friends with your fears.” But can I make friends
with my projected terror? I have lots of terror. I wake up in the middle of the
night terrified. Do you ever wake up in the middle of the night terrified? Yes.
You carry your dream state into the waking state. It’s a big jump cut, isn’t it? A
lot of filmmakers have dealt with that — montage, laying one thing over another.
These paintings are all about laying one thing over another over many years.
I’m 90 years old now. I’ve been painting for a long time, never knowing what I’m
doing. I’m finding out as I proceed on the path of forking tongues. I’m going to
have to read this Borges now. It’s an amazing book. You’re lucky to discover it
at your point in life. When did you discover it? Maybe 10 years ago. How did it
come into your life? It came from a friend of mine who’s a psychiatrist. He was
a friend of my old psychiatrist, who had died. This man said if I ever wanted to
discuss my mind, he’d be available. He was also a mathematician. I was terrible
at math. I wanted to be an M.D., but I couldn’t get through the pre-med activity,
calculus and chemistry. I can’t memorize. My mind is mush.
86 87
I don’t have a mind for numbers either, but I can
close my eyes and travel through every space I’ve
ever been in. Are there tics of your memory you
might be able to share? Yeah, sometimes I make
’em up, as my mind moves from station to station,
place to place. My memories are not always up to
snuff, so I’ll make one up. Do you always paint
outside? Yes. I lived in New York for a few years, and
I couldn’t paint outside, so I came back to California.
You keep answering my questions ahead of my
asking. I wanted to know why you left New York.
Have you seen the mirrored works? Yes. I love those.
They’re trippy. They change reality, distort reality.
I found these special mirrors that would do that. This
weekend, I was asking people who may have met
you about you. One friend recalled you, in your 70s,
at your own opening, quote: “expressionistically
tripping on magic mushrooms.” Oh, yeah. That
was true. I travel with mushrooms. Do you still take
mushrooms? I don’t do mushrooms anymore because
I lose my balance. I fell once and really screwed up my
leg. That anecdote came to mind because when
I’m on mushrooms, if I look in a mirror, it does a
similar effect to the mirrors you paint. It does, yeah.
Today, we’re going to frame these paintings that had
a layer of faces that I painted over. Were those faces
portraits? I draw them very loosely, and then they’re
painted out so they’re ghosts, ghosts in time. Do you
believe in ghosts? You bet I do. What’s a ghost?
A ghost is an extension of your mind. Is everything an
extension of the mind? All the phenomenal world is
part of that —the mind as it travels. What about the
heart? The heart is a romantic projection of the mind.
Mine stopped awhile back. I had to have a new valve
put in, and then a pacemaker, so that it keeps on going.
It has to have a stable goings-on, or you have what is
called a heart murmur, an intermittent heartbeat, where
it can go five times without a beat. Does it come back?
That’s always the question. Could you tell me a bit
about the Ferus Gallery? You were part of the
central cohort. [Ferus founder] Walter Hopps was
one of those genius guys who never applied himself in
any practical way. He loved painting. He knew all the
painters, like Craig Kauffman, who recommended me
to Walter. When I met Walter, he said, “I don’t think
you’re good enough to be in the gallery. You obviously
have talent, but you don’t understand mystery.” Walter
went to Stanford with a guy named Jim Newman.
They were driving and some old guy was passing
across the street late at night, and they ran him over
and killed him. His name was Ferus. So they named the
gallery after this man. The first guys Ferus showed were
all the crazies of Los Angeles — hippies and potheads.
When Irving Blum came from New York to the gallery
and saw all our work, he said, “It’s a hodgepodge. Ninety
percent of these people should be gotten rid of, and I’ll tell
you who to get rid of.” There were 10 of us left after that.
We all hung out together, chasing the same girls.
―
After our interview, I researched the Ferus Gallery origins
story Moses told. It seems a lie. According to the Pacific
Standard Time: Los Angeles Art 1945-1980, J. Paul Getty
Museum catalogue, it was Walter Hopps’ first gallery,
Syndell Studio, that was named after a man who died,
a farmer named Maurice Syndell, who stepped in front
of a truck; Jim Newman alone witnessed that accident.
Ferus was the name of a boy Hopps went to high school
with. The name was also associated with the “feral,”
wildness, with Ferus hominis, a primitive human, and being
“Fer us,” as in Beat poet David Meltzer’s line “not ’fer
you.” (A “forked tongue” is a Native-American expression
meaning to tell lies. It was put on the white man.) x
“MY LIFE IS A LABYRINTH. IT KEEPS
FOLDINGBACKANDMUTATING,
FOLDINGBACKANDMUTATING.”

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THE SENSATIONAL ED MOSES

  • 1. Now at Ninety Photographed by NABIL Written by Fiona Alison Duncan EDMOSES THE SENSATIONAL
  • 2. 80 81 Scratch Up — 2016. Untitled — 2016. Untitled — 2016, acrylic on canvas. Untitled — 1975, acrylic on canvas. The art of Ed Moses isn’t iconic. Wavering and receding, reflecting, emitting, his paintings and drawings posture rather like nature, like heated lava rock, sun passing through palm fronds, drought-bleached grass, a desert mirage, moth wings, shut-eye phosphenes, and the mauve of jacaranda as it rusts in late-May bloom. One recalls, after experiencing them, the sensational experience of them — that rather than an image that sticks. His being is similar, down-to-earth and ethereal. Or, that’s how it seemed to me when we met on a Monday morning in his Venice studio backyard. The artist was weary after a restless night. I had nightmares, too. We agreed it must be in the air. “Certain people catch it,” he said. Born April 9, 1926, in Long Beach, Calif., Ed Moses has been breathing over three times longer than I. He’s been painting since his early 20s and still is. His output is prolific. In his studio home, dozens of finished canvases hang, dozens more are stored, several are in process and a neighborhood away, in Santa Monica, at William Turner Gallery, even more are on show. That exhibit is called MOSES@90, and the man tells me it’s selling well. “I’m making a lot of money,” Moses disclosed. “I’m going to give it to my friends because I don’t need it.” Moses told me many things. He directed our interview, set a stage — we began in a room with a lofted roof, sitting before pale matte pictures. He explained how they’re inspired by his front yard, which he calls “The Garden of Forking Paths,” or “Forking Tongues,” a play on the name of a short story by Jorge Luis Borges from his book Labyrinths. Moses pronounces Borges like bore-hey-zee. His copy of Labyrinths, which he had an assistant retrieve for me, is marked primarily in red and yellow ink. During our hour together, Moses led me inside, outside, then in and back out again. Our talk took similar turns. We’d go abstract then he’d veer us back — to the paintings hanging, our Venice setting, how the neighborhood is changing, etc. Moses asked me questions, and he anticipated three I’d prepared. “The point is not to be in control,” he has said, “but to be in tune.” The first question he preempted happened early, when he mentioned that, “I never know what I’m doing.” I’ve heard you say that before. I wanted to ask about that. I get on a path and do whatever is required based on my intuitive responses to the situation. I put paint on, wash it off, add to it again. My craquelure works come from an early Mondrian painting I saw, where the divisions at the horizontal lines crackled as the paint, over the years, expanded and contracted. I said, “Wouldn’t it be great if I could get a whole field of crackles?” That would be the subject, or the discovery, a part of being on the labyrinth. I’ve been on the labyrinth all of my life, with no particular direction, just looking and mutating on what’s going. It’s a continual travel in the labyrinth, in the garden of forking tongues. I say forking tongues. As in the mouth? We operate with forked tongues. What does that mean? I’ve told so many lies all my life, I never know what’s the truth anymore. I was going to ask about lies, too, because I was reading this book, West of Eden, and someone in it said that you lied about your age in order to get into the Navy as a young man. I wondered what other lies you’ve told? Oh, I forgot about that. I always lied because I’ve never been satisfied with the situation, so I’d invent one. I make it up, I storyline. The truth is relative to my lies. And the energy that comes from lying extends my consciousness to where I’d like to be rather than where I am. When I’m painting, I’m imagining ways to extend what I’m looking at. This one painting, for example, I painted over and then I drew these lines with a squirt gun of paint, and when I washed them off, they left traces, which made another painting. Then, I wanted another level, to bring it up to the frontal plane. I want to be up in front. I want to be counted. I want people to count me — or, not decode me, but to read what I’ve put down, and what I’ve put down are a bunch of counteractions to what’s there. They’re like lying. It’s interesting you call creating like this lying. I never tell the truth. Are you lying right now? I could be. That’s a trap. Like a labyrinth. My life is a labyrinth. It keeps folding back and mutating, folding back and mutating. “MOMENT TO MOMENT TO MOMENTISNOW.”
  • 3. 83 I wanted to speak with you about Buddhism. I know that you’re a longtime student of it. I was introduced to a great Tibetan Buddhist teacher called [Chögyam] Trungpa Rinpoche. I liked Buddhism because it dealt with the phenomenal rather than the imaginary world. You sit and you watch your mind — that’s the discipline. Whenever a thought comes in, you say, thinking, and you see if you can hit the zone of now. Not yesterday or tomorrow but now. Each moment is now. Moment to moment to moment is now. My paintings have something to do with that teaching, dealing with the phenomenal world. The world is phenomenal. I felt so naughty when I was young, and I would be caught in a lie. You want to cover up that lie. My paintings are cover-ups of lies about the phenomenal world. Do you think you can tell when someone’s lying to you? Sometimes, of course, being a master liar myself. I catch expressions. People let it go; their face changes. What’s a lie you told recently? This situation right now is a lie. How so? Because I’m making it up. As in you manifest it, or … Sure, I manifest it. Didn’t I manifest it as well? Can you? I think so. Youwould know. You’ve been in love before, haven’t you? Absolutely. I wanted to talk to you about love, actually. Your partner, who you remarried after a long separation … Almost 35 years. Incredible. I realized that I loved her all the time. And she realized that she loved me, too. She said, “I don’t know why.” She’s a student of Buddhism, much more serious and more disciplined than I am. Could you share something that she’s taught you? Yeah, about lying. She never liked the fact that I lied. Well, it makes it difficult to have a relationship. Trust. Trust is a factor. It should be major — that you can trust the phenomenal world. But you can’t trust it, because you make it up. Is that a spider on that painting over there? Yes. I have a terrible fear of spiders. I told one of my teachers this, and he said, “You’ve got to make friends with your fears.” But can I make friends with my projected terror? I have lots of terror. I wake up in the middle of the night terrified. Do you ever wake up in the middle of the night terrified? Yes. You carry your dream state into the waking state. It’s a big jump cut, isn’t it? A lot of filmmakers have dealt with that — montage, laying one thing over another. These paintings are all about laying one thing over another over many years. I’m 90 years old now. I’ve been painting for a long time, never knowing what I’m doing. I’m finding out as I proceed on the path of forking tongues. I’m going to have to read this Borges now. It’s an amazing book. You’re lucky to discover it at your point in life. When did you discover it? Maybe 10 years ago. How did it come into your life? It came from a friend of mine who’s a psychiatrist. He was a friend of my old psychiatrist, who had died. This man said if I ever wanted to discuss my mind, he’d be available. He was also a mathematician. I was terrible at math. I wanted to be an M.D., but I couldn’t get through the pre-med activity, calculus and chemistry. I can’t memorize. My mind is mush.
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  • 5. 86 87 I don’t have a mind for numbers either, but I can close my eyes and travel through every space I’ve ever been in. Are there tics of your memory you might be able to share? Yeah, sometimes I make ’em up, as my mind moves from station to station, place to place. My memories are not always up to snuff, so I’ll make one up. Do you always paint outside? Yes. I lived in New York for a few years, and I couldn’t paint outside, so I came back to California. You keep answering my questions ahead of my asking. I wanted to know why you left New York. Have you seen the mirrored works? Yes. I love those. They’re trippy. They change reality, distort reality. I found these special mirrors that would do that. This weekend, I was asking people who may have met you about you. One friend recalled you, in your 70s, at your own opening, quote: “expressionistically tripping on magic mushrooms.” Oh, yeah. That was true. I travel with mushrooms. Do you still take mushrooms? I don’t do mushrooms anymore because I lose my balance. I fell once and really screwed up my leg. That anecdote came to mind because when I’m on mushrooms, if I look in a mirror, it does a similar effect to the mirrors you paint. It does, yeah. Today, we’re going to frame these paintings that had a layer of faces that I painted over. Were those faces portraits? I draw them very loosely, and then they’re painted out so they’re ghosts, ghosts in time. Do you believe in ghosts? You bet I do. What’s a ghost? A ghost is an extension of your mind. Is everything an extension of the mind? All the phenomenal world is part of that —the mind as it travels. What about the heart? The heart is a romantic projection of the mind. Mine stopped awhile back. I had to have a new valve put in, and then a pacemaker, so that it keeps on going. It has to have a stable goings-on, or you have what is called a heart murmur, an intermittent heartbeat, where it can go five times without a beat. Does it come back? That’s always the question. Could you tell me a bit about the Ferus Gallery? You were part of the central cohort. [Ferus founder] Walter Hopps was one of those genius guys who never applied himself in any practical way. He loved painting. He knew all the painters, like Craig Kauffman, who recommended me to Walter. When I met Walter, he said, “I don’t think you’re good enough to be in the gallery. You obviously have talent, but you don’t understand mystery.” Walter went to Stanford with a guy named Jim Newman. They were driving and some old guy was passing across the street late at night, and they ran him over and killed him. His name was Ferus. So they named the gallery after this man. The first guys Ferus showed were all the crazies of Los Angeles — hippies and potheads. When Irving Blum came from New York to the gallery and saw all our work, he said, “It’s a hodgepodge. Ninety percent of these people should be gotten rid of, and I’ll tell you who to get rid of.” There were 10 of us left after that. We all hung out together, chasing the same girls. ― After our interview, I researched the Ferus Gallery origins story Moses told. It seems a lie. According to the Pacific Standard Time: Los Angeles Art 1945-1980, J. Paul Getty Museum catalogue, it was Walter Hopps’ first gallery, Syndell Studio, that was named after a man who died, a farmer named Maurice Syndell, who stepped in front of a truck; Jim Newman alone witnessed that accident. Ferus was the name of a boy Hopps went to high school with. The name was also associated with the “feral,” wildness, with Ferus hominis, a primitive human, and being “Fer us,” as in Beat poet David Meltzer’s line “not ’fer you.” (A “forked tongue” is a Native-American expression meaning to tell lies. It was put on the white man.) x “MY LIFE IS A LABYRINTH. IT KEEPS FOLDINGBACKANDMUTATING, FOLDINGBACKANDMUTATING.”