10. Tensions: Charismatic Practice
CHARISMATIC BALANCE CONSERVATIVE
RADICAL MODERATE CONSERVATIVE
Radikal (Left Wing)
LEFT MIDDLE RIGHT
9 gifts (listed 1Co 12)
Sensational & Supernatural
Experiencially rather than exegetically or
historically defined
– reading into the text / prooftexting
Continued revelation (adding to & allegorizing
Bible)
Tendency to become occultic (channelling, angels)
Individualised personal power building..
11. Tensions: Charismatic Practice
CHARISMATIC BALANCE CONSERVATIVE
RADICAL MODERATE CONSERVATIVE
Right (Conservative)
LEFT MIDDLE RIGHT
Dispensationalists, etc.
Signs & Wonders ceased with the Apostles
Prophecy is the same in OT & NT..
12. Tensions: Charismatic Practice
CHARISMATIC BALANCE CONSERVATIVE
RADICAL MODERATE CONSERVATIVE
Moderate / Middle
LEFT MIDDLE RIGHT
All gifts are potentially operative
Don’t have to be operative
There are more gifts than those listed in the Bible
Exist already in the day-to-day operations of local
churches
Less sensational than believed by Radicals
Fallible & subject to testing by the Word ..
13. Tensions: Charismatic Practice
Sino ang tama?
Sino ang mali?
Nasaan ba tayo? .
CHARISMATIC BALANCE CONSERVATIVE
RADICAL MODERATE CONSERVATIVE
LEFT MIDDLE RIGHT
14. Tensions: Baptism of the HS?
1. Ac 2:4, et al (Baptist)
This is the beginning of the church age.
Refers only to regeneration/New birth
RC, Anglican, Lutheran slant – BHS is tied to Water
Baptism
a. Baptism of HS b. Baptism of HS
a. Salvation b. Water Baptism
15. Tensions: Baptism of the HS?
2. Holiness / Wesleyan
2nd work of grace that sanctifies
Different from regeneration
2nd Work: Baptism of HS
1st Work: Regeneration
Salvation Sanctification
16. Tensions: Baptism of the HS?
3. Keswick / CMA (CAMACOP)
Subsequent experience of empowering for
service
Element of sanctification
FB Meyer, Andrew Murray, RA Torrey, Tozer
1st Work: Regeneration 2nd Work: Baptism of HS
Salvation Empowerment & Sanctification
17. Tensions: Baptism of the HS?
4. Pentecostal Holiness
3rd work of grace that empowers for service
3rd Work:
2nd Work Baptism of
1st Work: HS
Regeneration
Salvation Sanctification Empowerment for Service
18. Tensions: Baptism of the HS?
5. Classical Pentecostalism / AOG
Close to #3, above (Keswick / CMA)
2 works of grace
Regeneration & B of HS (Speaking in Tongues)
Empowerment for service
Sanctification
1st Work: Regeneration 2nd Work: Baptism of HS
Salvation Empowerment & Sanctification
19. Issues regarding the role of
the HS
Key issues of current
significance in the 20th c.
regarding the role of the HS in
the life of the believer & the
church
20. Issues regarding the role of the HS
1. Ano ba'ng "IpinangakongAma"?
2. Kailan ang Simula ng Iglesya?
3. How do we describe the work of the HS in
Acts? Paano ilarawan ang trabaho ng Espirtu
Santo sa “Mga Gawa”?
4. Ano ba'ng pakikipagrelasyon ng
Filling, Coming
upon, Baptism, Empowering, Pouring
out, Receiving, Gift , etc. of the HS?
21. Issues regarding the role of the HS
5. The Baptism of the HS vs A Baptism of the
HS
6. Does Baptism of the HS relate to Inner
sanctification OR to Service & Witness?
7. John 16:13 – guide whom?
8. Are all the Spiritual Gifts valid today?
23. 1. Ang Ipinangako ng Ama
Ac 1:4 – ―… wait for the gift my Father
promised, which you have heard me speak
about.‖
"… hintayin ninyo roon ang ipinangako ng Ama
na sinabi ko na sa inyo."
24. 1. Ang Ipinangako ng Ama
Luke 24:49 – ―I am going to send you what my
Father has promised ….‖
"… isusugo ko sa inyo ang ipinangako ng
aking Ama …."
25. 1. Ang Ipinangako ng Ama
Acts 2:33 – ―he has received from the Father
the promised HS & has poured out what you
now see & hear.‖
"… at tinanggap niya mula sa Ama ang
ipinangakong Espiritu Santo. Ito ang kanyang
ibinuhos sa amin, tulad ng inyong nakikita at
naririnig."
26. 1. Ang Ipinangako ng Ama
Lu 3:16 – ―John answered them all, ―I baptize
you with water. But one who is more powerful
than I will come, the thongs of whose sandals I
am not worthy to untie. He will baptize you with
the HS & fire.‖
27. 1. Ang Ipinangako ng Ama
Lu 24:45-49 – ―45 Then he opened their minds so
they could understand the Scriptures. 46 He told
them, 'This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer
& rise from the dead on the third day, 47 &
repentance for the forgiveness of sins will be
preached in his name to all nations, beginning at
Jerusalem. 48 You are witnesses of these things. 49 I
am going to send you what my Father has promised;
but stay in the city until you have been clothed with
power from on high.'‖
is related to the mission & is an empowerment
28. 1. Ang Ipinangako ng Ama
Ac 1:4-5 – ―4 … he gave them this command: 'Do not
leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father
promised, which you have heard me speak about. 5
For John baptized with water, but in a few days you
will be baptized with the HS.'‖
Ac 1:8 – ―But you will receive power when the HS
comes on you; & you will be my witnesses in
Jerusalem, & in all Judea & Samaria, & to the ends of
the earth.‖
29. 1. Ang Ipinangako ng Ama
Ac 2:38-39 – ―38 Peter replied, 'Repent & be
baptized, every one of you, in the name of
Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins.
And you will receive the gift of the HS. 39 The
promise is for you & your children & for all who
are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will
call.'‖
30. 1. Ang Ipinangako ng Ama
Ac 8:13-19 – ―13 Simon himself believed & was
baptized. And he followed Philip
everywhere, astonished by the great signs & miracles
he saw. 14 When the apostles in Jerusalem heard
that Samaria had accepted the word of God, they
sent Peter & John to Samaria. 15 When they
arrived, they prayed for the new believers there that
they might receive the HS, 16 because the HS had
not ….‖
31. 1. Ang Ipinangako ng Ama
Ac 8:13-19 – ―…. yet come upon any of them; they
had simply been baptized into the name of the Lord
Jesus. 17 Then Peter & John placed their hands on
them, & they received the HS. 18 When Simon saw
that the Spirit was given at the laying on of the
apostles’ hands, he offered them money 19 &
said, 'Give me also this ability so that everyone on
whom I lay my hands may receive the HS.'‖
32. 1. Ang Ipinangako ng Ama
Ac 10:44-47 – ―44 While Peter was still speaking
these words, the HS came on all who heard the
message. 45 The circumcised believers who had
come with Peter were astonished that the gift of the
HS had been poured out even on Gentiles. 46 For
they heard them speaking in tongues & praising God.
Then Peter said, 47 'Surely no one can stand in the
way of their being baptized with water. They have
received the HS just as we have.'‖
33. 1. Ang Ipinangako ng Ama
Ac 2:4 – ―All of them were filled with the HS &
began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit
enabled them.‖
"at silang lahat ay napuspos ng Espiritu Santo
at nagsimulang magsalita ng iba't ibang wika,
ayon sa ipinagkaloob sa kanila ng Espiritu."
34. 1. Ang Ipinangako ng Ama
Ac 4:31 – ―After they prayed, the place where
they were meeting was shaken. And they were
all filled with the HS & spoke the word of God
boldly.‖
"Pagkatapos nilang manalangin, nayanig ang
kanilang pinagtitipunan. Silang lahat ay
napuspos ng Espiritu Santo at buong tapang
na nangaral ng salita ng Diyos."
35. 1. Ang Ipinangako ng Ama
16 At naalala ko ang sinabi ng Panginoon, 'Si Juan
ay nagbabautismo sa tubig, ngunit babautismuhan
kayo ng Espiritu Santo.' 17 Kung binigyan sila ng
Diyos ng kaloob na tulad ng ibinigay niya sa atin
noong tayo'y manalig sa Panginoong Jesu-
Cristo, sino ako para hadlangan ang Diyos?" 18
Nang marinig nila ito, tumigil na sila ng pagtuligsa at
sa halip ay nagpuri sa Diyos. Sabi nila, "Kung
gayon, ang mga Hentil man ay binigyan din ng Diyos
ng pagkakataong magsisi't magbagong-buhay upang
maligtas!"
36. 1. Ang Ipinangako ng Ama
Based on the above, what is the ―Promise of
the Father‖?
God promised that he would send the HS …
As a gift;
As an indication of the start of their ministry;
For empowerment in ministry
38. 2. When did the church start?
Jesus said it was future.
Mt 16:18 – ―And I tell you that you are Peter, & on
this rock I will build my church, & the gates of
Hades will not overcome it.‖
The church could not start as a body without a
head & that required the death & resurrection of
Jesus Christ.
Ephesians 1:20 – ―which he exerted in Christ when he
raised him from the dead & seated him at his right hand
in the heavenly realms ….‖
39. 2. When did the church start?
Jesus said it was future.
The church could not be a functioning organism
without possessing the gifts, which were not given
until after the ascension.
Ephesians 4:7-12 – ―But to each one of us grace has
been given as Christ apportioned it.…It was he who
gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets, some
to be evangelists, & some to be pastors & teachers, to
prepare God’s people for works of service, so that the
body of Christ may be built up.‖
40. 2. When did the church start?
The point of the mystery.
Ephesians 3:4-6 – ―… the mystery of Christ, which was not
made known to men in other generations as it has now
been revealed by the Spirit to God’s holy apostles &
prophets. This mystery is that through the gospel the
Gentiles are heirs together with Israel, members together of
one body, & sharers together in the promise in Christ
Jesus.‖
Colossians 1:26 – ―… the mystery that has been kept
hidden for ages & generations, but is now disclosed to the
saints.‖
41. 2. When did the church start?
The Church started at Pentecost.
Something unique started here with the coming of the HS
42. 2. When did the church start?
The Church & Israel.
Is there forever a difference between ―NT
Christians‖ & ―OT Saints‖?
The Bible speaks of a new people being formed, made
up of those saved in both the OT & in the NT.
The Children of Israel have been united with the nations
to form the church–the body of Christ. ..
43. 3. How do we describe the
work of the HS in Acts?
44. 3. Work of the HS in Acts
Prescriptive vs Descriptive
Narrative literature describes events as they
happened & includes the good with the bad.
We should not necessarily expect the same things
to happen in our time
We should not necessarily imitate what we read
45. 3. Work of the HS in Acts
1. Archetypical? Minsan lang ba?
Some things are done to make a point & are not
intended to be repeated
Ac 5:1-11 – Ananias &Saphira
46. 3. Work of the HS in Acts
2. Dispensationally initiatory? Simula ba ng
Panahon?
Some things are done to start a new era of
history & are not intended to be repeated
Ac 10:9-23 – Peter's Vision of the sheet
Ac 2, 4 – You only start the church once – it never
ceases to exist
47. 3. Work of the HS in Acts
3. Sustainable/Repeatable? Pa ulit ulit ba?
Some things are started & intended to be
repeated
48. 4. Ano ba'ng
pakikipagrelasyon ng …
Baptism of the HS,
Filling of the HS,
Coming upon of the HS,
Pouring out of the HS,
Etc.?
49. 4. Ano ba'ng pakikipagrelasyon ng
…Filling, Coming upon, Baptism, Empowering, Pouring
out, Receiving, Gift, etc. of the HS …
Key questions:
How do they relate to each other? Pareho ba o
Iba?
How do they relate to 1Co 12:13?
How do they relate to conversion/regeneration?
How do they relate to the manifestation of the
gifts, etc.?
50. 4. Ano ba'ng pakikipagrelasyon ng
…Filling, Coming upon, Baptism, Empowering, Pouring out, Receiving, Gift,
etc. of the HS …
1. Baptism of the HS?
1Co 12:13 – ―Maging Judio o Hentil, alipin man o
malaya, tayong lahat ay binautismuhan sa iisang
Espiritu upang maging isang katawan. Tayong
lahat ay pinainom sa iisang Espiritu."
Ac 1:5 – "Juan ay nagbautismo sa tubig, ngunit di
na magtatagal at babautismuhan kayo sa Espiritu
Santo."
51. 4. Ano ba'ng pakikipagrelasyon ng
…Filling, Coming upon, Baptism, Empowering, Pouring
out, Receiving, Gift, etc. of the HS …
1. Baptism of the HS?
Ro 6:3-5 – ―Or don’t you know that all of us who
were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized
into his death? We were therefore buried with him
through baptism into death in order that, just as
Christ was raised from the dead through the glory
of the Father, we too may live a new life. If we
have been united with him in a death like his, we
will certainly also be united with him in a
resurrection like his.‖
52. 4. Ano ba'ng pakikipagrelasyon ng
…Filling, Coming upon, Baptism, Empowering, Pouring out, Receiving, Gift,
etc. of the HS …
1. Baptism of the HS?
Ga 3:27-28 – ‖... for all of you who were baptized
into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.
There is neither Jew nor Greek, neither slave nor
free, neither male nor female, for you are all one
in Christ Jesus.‖
53. 4. Ano ba'ng pakikipagrelasyon ng
…Filling, Coming upon, Baptism, Empowering, Pouring
out, Receiving, Gift, etc. of the HS …
2. Filling of the HS?
John
9 times in Luke-Acts:
Lu 1:15, 41, 67 – ―15 ... for he will be great in the sight
of the Lord. He is never to take wine or other fermented
drink, & he will be filled with the HS even before he is
born.... 41 When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the
baby leaped in her womb, & Elizabeth was filled with
the HS....67 His father Zechariah was filled with the
HS& prophesied ....‖
Elisabeth
Zechariah: Special
54. 4. Ano ba'ng pakikipagrelasyon ng
…Filling, Coming upon, Baptism, Empowering, Pouring
out, Receiving, Gift, etc. of the HS …
Apostles: 1st fulfilment
2. Filling of the HS? of Promise of Father
9 times in Luke-Acts:
Ac 2:4 – ―All of them were filled with the HS& began to
speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.‖
Ac 4:8, 31 – ―8 Then Peter, filled with the HS, said to
them: ―Rulers & elders of the people! .... ―31 After they
prayed, the place where they were meeting was
shaken. And they were all filled with the HS& spoke the
word of God boldly.‖
Disciples: Prayer Meeting
Peter: Special
55. 4. Ano ba'ng pakikipagrelasyon ng
…Filling, Coming upon, Baptism, Empowering, Pouring
out, Receiving, Gift, etc. of the HS …
2. Filling of the HS? Paul: Promise of Father &
9 times in Luke-Acts: Empowerment
Ac 9:17 – ―Then Ananias went to the house & entered
it. Placing his hands on Saul, he said, 'Brother Saul, the
Lord—Jesus, who appeared to you on the road as you
were coming here—has sent me so that you may see
again &be filled with the HS.'‖
Ac 13:9,52 – ―9 Then Saul, who was also called Paul,
filled with the HS, looked straight at Elymas .... 52 And
the disciples were filled with joy & with the HS.‖
Paul: Special Disciples
56. 4. Ano ba'ng pakikipagrelasyon ng
…Filling, Coming upon, Baptism, Empowering, Pouring
out, Receiving, Gift, etc. of the HS …
3. Coming upon of the HS?
Ac 11:15 – ―As I began to speak, the HS came on
them as he had come on us at the beginning.
Cornelius’ Household:
Promise of the Father
57. 4. Ano ba'ng pakikipagrelasyon ng
…Filling, Coming upon, Baptism, Empowering, Pouring
out, Receiving, Gift, etc. of the HS …
Baptised
Empowered
Came upon
Poured out The promise of the
Filled Father Pangako ng Ama
Received
Gift
59. 5. The Baptism vs A Baptism
Our discussion above indicated that B of HS is a very
flexible phrase that is used biblically to describe a
variety of HS-related events.
These events cover all areas of Christian experience
from salvation to the Christian life
Filling, Coming upon, Baptism, Empowering, Pouring
out, Receiving, Gift, etc. of the HS
We cannot identify one of them as being special
baptism as opposed to the others. ..
60. 6. Does Baptism of the HS
relate to …
Inner sanctification? OR
Service & Witness?
61. 6. Sanctification or Service?
1. Inner sanctification? YES
If by sanctification you mean regeneration;
B of HS refers specifically to that act of the HS
that places the believer into the body of Christ at
the moment of their salvation / conversion;
It is a sovereign work of the HS
It does not refer to a 2nd event that makes the
believer more holy than he already became at
regeneration ..
62. 6. Sanctification or Service?
2. Service & Witness? YES
Because the term is also used interchangeably
with many other HS-related words, it can also
refer to the continuous filling or empowerment of
the believer throughout their Christian life.
It is a responsive work of the HS
It refers to events that empower believers to
perform the job of the Great Commission ..
64. 7. John 16:13 – Guide Whom?
John 16:13 – ―But when he, the Spirit of
truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth.
He will not speak on his own; he will speak
only what he hears, & he will tell you what is
yet to come.‖
Sino ’to? Until 2nd
coming?
Hanggang
kailan?
65. 7. John 16:13 – Guide Whom?
There is no indication there that the HS will
stop guiding the church before the return of
Christ.
In fact, the context is that the HS will come to
be with the church as it goes through
persecution.
Not much of a comfort if he leaves ½ way
through!
67. 8. Spiritual Gifts
What is the nature of spiritual gifts?
How do we define them?
Are they spiritual or experiencial?
How supernatural are they?
How many are there?
68. 8. Spiritual Gifts: Words
– ―grace‖
Gift of Grace = gift of Jesus Christ (ie. salvation)
– ―act kindly / graciously‖
69. 8. Spiritual Gifts: Words
carisma – ―gift of God’s grace;‖ ―spiritual gifts‖
17 times in NT
Romans – 6 times
1 Corinthians – 7 times
Other Pauline – 3 times
Non-Pauline – 1 time [1Pe 4:10]
– ―to give‖
Used with in Eph 4:7-8; Ro 5:15-16
70. 8. Spiritual Gifts: Defined
carismata are any graciously conferred gift or help or
ministration rooted in the HS’s personal presence in
the believer & used technically by Paul to describe
specifically & distinctively unique, graciously
bestowed, somewhat extraordinary, spiritual powers
(abilities) outworking through each believer for the
benefit of the Christian community. It is an essential
aspect of each believer’s involvement in the
community. – Ken Davis
71. 8. Spiritual Gifts: Defined
1. carismata is a hard to define word
2. There are multiple gifts (not just those listed)
3. All gifts are equal
4. Tongues almost die out after 1Co 14 – little
reference to them in the church Fathers
5. Prophecy is not predictive nor prescriptive
nor revelatory
72. Gifts: Cessation vs Non-Cessation
2 basic positions
Refers to what are considered to be the more
supernatural gifts (sign gifts)
Cessationist
Non-Cessationist
Cessation – from the word ―cease‖
Each has 3 sub-points.
73. Gifts: Cessation vs Non-Cessation
Cessationist: Miraculous Gifts Ceased w/ 12
The More Miraculous Gifts Ceased w/ the 12
Observation based upon historical misunderstanding
Not textually justified
Proponent(s): Augustine, Calvin, BB Warfield.
74. Gifts: Cessation vs Non-Cessation
Cessationist: Dispensational
The revelatory gifts
(Tongues, prophecy, knowledge) and Apostolic
offices (Apostles, prophets) have ceased & were
never intended for the church
Theologically based rather than textual or historical
Proponent(s): Dallas TS, Unger, Walrood.
75. Gifts: Cessation vs Non-Cessation
Cessationist: Fundamentalist Exegetical
Similar to A & B
Attempt exegetical-textual base
Christ & Apostles represent the full, final, totally sufficent
revelation of God and anything that threatens that is
dangerous.
Assumes revelatory girfts have ceased.
Proponent(s): Pickford.
76. Gifts: Cessation vs Non-Cessation
Non-Cessationist: Moderate Exegetical
Say that Cessationists
1. Cessationists argue from no clear texts
2. Cessationists have no historical basis
3. Cessationists use wrong definitions of ―charismata‖
All gifts have always been present although not always
identified
Gifts don’t necessarily cease (it’s up to God)
Many kinds of gifts available
Proponent(s): Carson, Dunn.
77. Gifts: Cessation vs Non-Cessation
Non-Cessationist: Early Classical Pentecostal
9 gifts
Missing for many centuries but recently restored at
the end of this time (especially tongues & healing)
B of HS is a special experience (post-conversion)
proven by speaking in tongues
Opens the door to using the other gifts.
78. Gifts: Cessation vs Non-Cessation
Non-Cessationist: General Charismatic
Movements
Since 1950s
Many gifts
Gifts are released by B of HS
Tongues not necessary for proof
Bring in prophecy
Use OT prophetic definitions [DANGEROUS!!] ..
81. Wonders: A Proposed Solution
1. The true Christian faith is …
the gospel as revealed by Jesus & through his original
chosen apostles
affirmed by scripture
consistent with the witness of the early church
Deviation from the biblical faith must be rejected
even if from those claiming divine authority
even if accompanied by signs & wonders..
82. Wonders: A Proposed Solution
2. This faith was meant to be exciting & alive.
God's current activity will not contradict the
scriptures..
83. Wonders: A Proposed Solution
3. There is only one Gospel.
Reject theology that claims some of God's
purposes have been withheld but will be restored
in the end times..
84. Wonders: A Proposed Solution
4. Spirit Baptism= coming of HS into the life of a
repentant believer which makes possible
spiritual manifestations & spiritual maturity.
Spirit Filling= constant maintenance of that
Spirit presence in the life of the believer.
Reject idea that NT teaches any one post-
salvation second blessing..
85. Wonders: A Proposed Solution
5. Bible doesn’t prohibit any gifts. Giving or
withholding gifts is up to HS.
Including healing
Suffering through sickness may be for good in the plan
of God
Healing today doesn’t even come close to the miracles
of Jesus & the 12 Apostles
86. Wonders: A Proposed Solution
5. Bible doesn’t prohibit any gifts. Giving or
withholding gifts is up to HS.
Including revelatory gifts (eg. Prophecy, tongues,
knowledge)
Provided they are not a substitute for the Word of God
Exclusively for the comfort & edification of believers
Rarely predictive
Never authoritative
87. Wonders: A Proposed Solution
5. Bible doesn’t prohibit any gifts. Giving or
withholding gifts is up to HS.
Accountable to …
The Bible
Testing by church leaders
The fruit of the Spirit..
88. Wonders: A Proposed Solution
6. The manifestation of the spirit is a
partnership of 2 forms …
Spiritual gifts
Fruits of the spirit
All manifestations must honour Jesus Christ..
89. Wonders: A Proposed Solution
7. Absolute sovereignty of HS in all spiritual
manifestations.
We shouldn't attempt to
manipulate, command, artificially induce, or
encourage displays of them..
90. Wonders: A Proposed Solution
8. All who confess Jesus as the divine Savior &
Lord, who are born again, & who uphold the
essentials of the biblical faith are spiritually
unified. This unity serves as a witness to the
world.
Not unity because of shared charismatic
experience..
91. Wonders: A Proposed Solution
9. The Gospel is adequateto convict of sin &
bring sinners to salvation.
When proclaimed in the power of the HS &
authority of Christ
Reject idea that sign & wonders are necessary for
effective church growth & evangelism..
92. Wonders: A Proposed Solution
10. ―Charismatically‖ Oriented Worship leads to
an increase in spiritual
intimacy, relevancy, Christ-centeredness, &
joyful celebration.
Other forms of worship are equally valid..
93. Wonders: A Proposed Solution
11. Spiritual Warfare is real & serious.
Reject unbiblical focus on these issues..
94. Class Project
Create a statement of your beliefs reflecting
the truths we learned in Word, Work, &
Wonder.
95. Class Project
Therefore, the church, being grounded on the
word, gifted by the HS, & fruitful through
community work; rightfully divides the word of
truth (2Ti 2:15), Humbly acknowledges the
diversity of the work of the holy spirit (1Co 12:7-
11), & obediently lives out its faith in service to
all (Ja 2:26). Amen.