Discussing Christianity

     Atheism Vs. Theism
    Heretical Vs. Orthodox
      Fiction Vs. Reality
      By Robert Young
Disclaimers
• I myself am an Agnostic Atheist. This means I don’t
  believe in a god, but I also do not claim to know the
  truth about it either. I am open to changing my mind.
• Don’t take my word as fact. I am not a spiritual
  adviser and I do not know everything.
• I am trying to be as objective as possible here by
  attempting to leave out my personal biases.
• My goal here is to have a friendly discussion about a
  big topic in most peoples’ lives.
Theism (Belief of a god)
• Christianity will be used for this discussion.
• Uses the Bible as it’s standard for Christian
  followers.
• Many different types of Christianity exist, they
  are called Denominations.
• Believes in a god that created our universe.
Arguments for Theism
• The universe is so complex, an omnipotent
  being must have created it.
• Many historical accounts speak of Jesus.
• The Bible matches up historically with other
  documents, making it a bit more credible as a
  historical source.
• Christianity gives peoples’ lives a purpose.
Arguments against Theism
• How is a Christian god different than Greek or
  Roman gods?
• The Bible is not proof god exists.
• Religion has been the cause of much of the
  war and suffering in this world.
• If god were real, why does he watch those
  who he supposedly loves die everyday.
• There is no physical proof that god exists.
Atheism (The lack of belief in a god)
•   Many forms and degrees of Atheism.
•   Atheism is not a religion, it is a lack of religion.
•   Atheism is not always on purpose.
•   Atheists do not believe in sin, as sin is biblical.
•   Do not believe in any sort of deity.
Variations of Atheism and Theism
Arguments against Atheism

• If you are a Theist and are wrong, you will
  simply die. However, if you are wrong as an
  Atheist, you will spend eternity in hell.
• Where do you get your morals from if you
  believe in no god?

• Without god, what is the point of life? (Causes
  Nihilist point of view) (1)
Arguments for Atheism
• Religion was simply a way to explain things
  humans didn’t understand before science
  could understand them. (Sun worship, etc.)
• There is no physical evidence of a god existing;
  only an ancient book that could have been
  altered by anyone in the last 2,000 years.
• It should not be up to Atheists to disprove
  god, rather Theists should have evidence for
  their claims.
My thoughts
• I want the truth, I will not believe in any sort of god unless
  there is substantial evidence that it exists.
• Used to be a Christian, spent 16 years praying and never got a
  response back.
• There are 41,000+ denominations of Christianity alone. How
  could I pick only one of them and believe in it with no
  evidence? (2)
• The Bible promotes slavery (Leviticus 25:44-46), kidnapping
  , murder, rape (Judges 21:10-24)(3), misogyny (I Timothy 2:11-
  14) and human sacrifice (Deuteronomy 13:13-19). I cannot
  with good conscience believe anything this book says.
The End
• If anyone wants to have a discussion about
  religion, talk to me about it.




• I hope you enjoyed my presentation!
Works Cited
• 1 - Benedict, Pope. "Shameless Popery: Three Arguments Against Atheism
  from Pope Benedict." Shameless Popery: Three Arguments Against
  Atheism from Pope Benedict. N.p., 18 July 2012. Web. 28 Oct. 2012.
  <http://catholicdefense.blogspot.com/2012/07/three-arguments-against-
  atheism-from.html>.
• 2 - "List of Christian Denominations." Wikipedia. Wikimedia
  Foundation, 26 Oct. 2012. Web. 30 Oct. 2012.
  <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominations>.
• 3 - "Slavery in the Bible." Slavery in the Bible. N.p., n.d. Web. 30 Oct. 2012.
  <http://www.evilbible.com/Slavery.htm>.
• 4 - NLT Study Bible. Carol Stream, IL: Tyndale House, 2008. Print.
• 5 - "Google Images." Google Images. N.p., n.d. Web. 30 Oct. 2012.
  <http://images.google.com/>.

Religion speech pp presentation draft

  • 1.
    Discussing Christianity Atheism Vs. Theism Heretical Vs. Orthodox Fiction Vs. Reality By Robert Young
  • 2.
    Disclaimers • I myselfam an Agnostic Atheist. This means I don’t believe in a god, but I also do not claim to know the truth about it either. I am open to changing my mind. • Don’t take my word as fact. I am not a spiritual adviser and I do not know everything. • I am trying to be as objective as possible here by attempting to leave out my personal biases. • My goal here is to have a friendly discussion about a big topic in most peoples’ lives.
  • 3.
    Theism (Belief ofa god) • Christianity will be used for this discussion. • Uses the Bible as it’s standard for Christian followers. • Many different types of Christianity exist, they are called Denominations. • Believes in a god that created our universe.
  • 4.
    Arguments for Theism •The universe is so complex, an omnipotent being must have created it. • Many historical accounts speak of Jesus. • The Bible matches up historically with other documents, making it a bit more credible as a historical source. • Christianity gives peoples’ lives a purpose.
  • 5.
    Arguments against Theism •How is a Christian god different than Greek or Roman gods? • The Bible is not proof god exists. • Religion has been the cause of much of the war and suffering in this world. • If god were real, why does he watch those who he supposedly loves die everyday. • There is no physical proof that god exists.
  • 6.
    Atheism (The lackof belief in a god) • Many forms and degrees of Atheism. • Atheism is not a religion, it is a lack of religion. • Atheism is not always on purpose. • Atheists do not believe in sin, as sin is biblical. • Do not believe in any sort of deity.
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  • 8.
    Arguments against Atheism •If you are a Theist and are wrong, you will simply die. However, if you are wrong as an Atheist, you will spend eternity in hell. • Where do you get your morals from if you believe in no god? • Without god, what is the point of life? (Causes Nihilist point of view) (1)
  • 9.
    Arguments for Atheism •Religion was simply a way to explain things humans didn’t understand before science could understand them. (Sun worship, etc.) • There is no physical evidence of a god existing; only an ancient book that could have been altered by anyone in the last 2,000 years. • It should not be up to Atheists to disprove god, rather Theists should have evidence for their claims.
  • 10.
    My thoughts • Iwant the truth, I will not believe in any sort of god unless there is substantial evidence that it exists. • Used to be a Christian, spent 16 years praying and never got a response back. • There are 41,000+ denominations of Christianity alone. How could I pick only one of them and believe in it with no evidence? (2) • The Bible promotes slavery (Leviticus 25:44-46), kidnapping , murder, rape (Judges 21:10-24)(3), misogyny (I Timothy 2:11- 14) and human sacrifice (Deuteronomy 13:13-19). I cannot with good conscience believe anything this book says.
  • 11.
    The End • Ifanyone wants to have a discussion about religion, talk to me about it. • I hope you enjoyed my presentation!
  • 12.
    Works Cited • 1- Benedict, Pope. "Shameless Popery: Three Arguments Against Atheism from Pope Benedict." Shameless Popery: Three Arguments Against Atheism from Pope Benedict. N.p., 18 July 2012. Web. 28 Oct. 2012. <http://catholicdefense.blogspot.com/2012/07/three-arguments-against- atheism-from.html>. • 2 - "List of Christian Denominations." Wikipedia. Wikimedia Foundation, 26 Oct. 2012. Web. 30 Oct. 2012. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominations>. • 3 - "Slavery in the Bible." Slavery in the Bible. N.p., n.d. Web. 30 Oct. 2012. <http://www.evilbible.com/Slavery.htm>. • 4 - NLT Study Bible. Carol Stream, IL: Tyndale House, 2008. Print. • 5 - "Google Images." Google Images. N.p., n.d. Web. 30 Oct. 2012. <http://images.google.com/>.